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Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 11:03 • by Pooma (unregistered)
That, please, please little squirrel loving saints, can't be Alex's real address can it?

Otherwise I'm making an early nomination for real-WTF (the frist of many...)

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 11:15 • by Médinoc (unregistered)
Shouln't this be in "Error'd" instead of "CodeSOD" ?

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 11:15 • by Puck (unregistered)
Not only that, if you horizontally flip the image of the phone bill and screw with the contrast, you can quite plainly see the other side of the bill...

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 11:30 • by PerdidoPunk
I have to say, i am certainly not surprised by that first one. <sigh cause="job"/>

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 11:47 • by AdT (unregistered)
Extended warranty on one red paperclip? I didn't know you can do that!

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 11:52 • by Phill
160630 in reply to 160623
Pooma:
That, please, please little squirrel loving saints, can't be Alex's real address can it?

Otherwise I'm making an early nomination for real-WTF (the frist of many...)


That was exactly my first thought. I'm amazed that people don't seem to mind putting their home address and a telephone bill that clearly lists some of their friend's (or family's) numbers up onto a public website.
That to me is a serious WTF.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 11:53 • by DeLos
"Or a coin (except for you, Canada! I'll just end up mixing it in with my American change and then get frustrated when the vending machine won't accept it)"

Not a smart idea since Canadian money is now worth more than the US Dollar

about .95 CAD to $1 USD

http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/convert?amt=1&from=USD&to=CAD&submit=Convert

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 11:55 • by DeLos
160632 in reply to 160623
Pooma:
That, please, please little squirrel loving saints, can't be Alex's real address can it?

Otherwise I'm making an early nomination for real-WTF (the frist of many...)


http://www.pluggedincleveland.com/real_estate/view.cgi?num=3410

Tenant upstairs on 3 year lease

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 12:01 • by AdT (unregistered)
160633 in reply to 160626
Puck:
Not only that, if you horizontally flip the image of the phone bill and screw with the contrast, you can quite plainly see the other side of the bill...


Most of the text remains blurred though. JPEG artifacts do seem to have certain advantages...

One of the phone numbers is quite legible though. I won't say which but the cross total is 36...

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 12:04 • by Pooma (unregistered)
160634 in reply to 160632
DeLos:
Pooma:
That, please, please little squirrel loving saints, can't be Alex's real address can it?

Otherwise I'm making an early nomination for real-WTF (the frist of many...)


http://www.pluggedincleveland.com/real_estate/view.cgi?num=3410

Tenant upstairs on 3 year lease


...and that kids is why we never publish our details online. For the world to see. Even the scary parts that aren't supposed to be away from their mum.

I'm too many thousand miles away for scary stalker duty. Anyone closer?

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 12:04 • by AdT (unregistered)
160635 in reply to 160633
By cross total I meant digit sum. The latter term seems to be more customary.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 12:20 • by Darren (unregistered)
With some Photoshopping, you can clearly make out the phone numbers and customer name on the AT&T bill (toner transfer from adjacent pages).

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 12:22 • by Paul (unregistered)
That could very well be a business address. What makes you think Alex lives there.

(In fact, a test a 10 year old would have thought of suggests he doesn't...)

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 12:26 • by Wes W (unregistered)
When I was a kid, I remember my mom getting a bill from a hospital for $0.00, which she didn't pay. A month later, she got another copy with a threat that it would be turned over to collections. My mother being ever resourceful, decided rather than calling them and sorting it out, she wrote a check for $0.00 and sent it to them. They considered the account paid in full. I just wish we could get a copy of her billing history on that - Invoice 0.00, Payment 0.00 (Thank You), Balance Forward $0.00...

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 12:37 • by GettinSadda
Hmm, as far as I can tell he lives opposite a strange building that looks like a sewage treatment words, but appears to have several large satellite dishes too.

However, that number is not listed as belonging to Alex Papadimoulis, but to someone with initials JO.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 12:37 • by DeLos
160641 in reply to 160638
Paul:
That could very well be a business address. What makes you think Alex lives there.

(In fact, a test a 10 year old would have thought of suggests he doesn't...)



And what test would that be?

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 12:52 • by tezoatlipoca
160643 in reply to 160634
Pooma:
DeLos:
Pooma:
That, please, please little squirrel loving saints, can't be Alex's real address can it?

Otherwise I'm making an early nomination for real-WTF (the frist of many...)


I'm too many thousand miles away for scary stalker duty. Anyone closer?

I dunno. Alex can't be that silly. Perhaps he's looking for volunteers to test his new mutant-nuclear-attack-dog anti -intruder system.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 12:56 • by memo (unregistered)
160644 in reply to 160623
It is, and he says so. In fact, he tells you to send him a self addressed envelope and he'll send you back a sticker?

What's the big deal?

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 12:59 • by akatherder
The eyelash/eyebrow trapped between the phone bill and scanner gave me the willies.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 13:01 • by chet
It is always a good idea to print on the outside of an envelope - CASH CARD INSIDE!!!

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 13:28 • by BlueCollarAstronaut (unregistered)
160647 in reply to 160645
akatherder:
The eyelash/eyebrow trapped between the phone bill and scanner gave me the willies.


If you rotate the image by about 54% and crank up the contrast and magnification in Photoshop, you could probably find the right genetic makeup for an Alex clone.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 13:50 • by Gelfling (unregistered)
I hope his wife is or knows who Lorain is or there might be some 'splainin' to do.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 13:52 • by Woffer (unregistered)
160649 in reply to 160648
Thats the city name, you nimwit.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 13:58 • by Penny Saver (unregistered)
The address is for his company inedo. A search for his name does show he apparently lives in the same city though. Also, the phone number on the backside of his bill is his home phone, but that wasn't something I gathered from increasing the contrast. On the other hand, once I found his real number the bill confirmed it is his home phone.

Google knows all!

The amount of information you can find on the web is kind of scary...

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 14:03 • by J (unregistered)
160651 in reply to 160646
chet:
It is always a good idea to print on the outside of an envelope - CASH CARD INSIDE!!!


You beat me to it. In fact, I noticed that WTF before the intended one.

Off-topic, but it's the only place I can post this...

2007-11-12 14:28 • by codeman38
Is anyone else getting sent into a redirect loop trying to go to the forums?

I'd post about this in the Side Bar WTF forum, except for the fact that I can't exactly get there at the moment...

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 14:31 • by Usher (unregistered)
The Real WTF (TM) is that there are only 2 items in this post instead of the usual 3 :)


Captcha: burned - what he should be doing to his phone bills...

The real question is ...

2007-11-12 14:40 • by DaveK
... what kind of stuck process or forced recalculation was someone trying to trigger by first reducing the charges by a penny for a week, then incrementing them back up again? This smacks to me of those tills in shops that you can't open without recording a sale, so if the assistant gets your change wrong they have to ring up a bogus sale for 0.01 just to get the cash drawer open.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 14:52 • by trwtf is (unregistered)
160657 in reply to 160651
J:
chet:
It is always a good idea to print on the outside of an envelope - CASH CARD INSIDE!!!


You beat me to it. In fact, I noticed that WTF before the intended one.


The real WTF is that you guys don't know about windowed envelopes.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 14:54 • by Andrew (unregistered)
160658 in reply to 160631
DeLos:
"Or a coin (except for you, Canada! I'll just end up mixing it in with my American change and then get frustrated when the vending machine won't accept it)"

Not a smart idea since Canadian money is now worth more than the US Dollar

about .95 CAD to $1 USD

http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/convert?amt=1&from=USD&to=CAD&submit=Convert


Sure, sort those beaver nickels! The currency exchange might charge you only 50 cents to collect that 0.01 cent gain!

Go stick a maple leaf flag on Santa's porch. Then, Canada will be bigger than Russia, and your egos migh heal.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 15:01 • by DeLos
160659 in reply to 160658
Andrew:
DeLos:
"Or a coin (except for you, Canada! I'll just end up mixing it in with my American change and then get frustrated when the vending machine won't accept it)"

Not a smart idea since Canadian money is now worth more than the US Dollar

about .95 CAD to $1 USD

http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/convert?amt=1&from=USD&to=CAD&submit=Convert


Sure, sort those beaver nickels! The currency exchange might charge you only 50 cents to collect that 0.01 cent gain!

Go stick a maple leaf flag on Santa's porch. Then, Canada will be bigger than Russia, and your egos migh heal.


Sorry I didn't meant to spark your xenophobia. I just find this hatred of Canadian money humorous now. I live in the northeast and on every toll both you see the sign "Canadian bills discounted 60%". That is how it was for me growing up. I also visited Montreal several times (underage drinking for the 18 year old me ... and handsy strip clubs!) when the exchange rate was 1.50 CAD. Those were good times.

It's sad to me now that a $6 dollar (CAD) beer is no longer a good deal.


and yet machines still won't take them in the US ...

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 15:06 • by Marcel (unregistered)
160660 in reply to 160658
Andrew:
DeLos:


Sure, sort those beaver nickels! The currency exchange might charge you only 50 cents to collect that 0.01 cent gain!

Go stick a maple leaf flag on Santa's porch. Then, Canada will be bigger than Russia, and your egos migh heal.


So I detect a need to compensate for something?
Here's another blow to your 'ego' There's another 325 million people to the east whose money is worth more then yours :P

want me to send you a shiny new euro? wait a few months and you'll get that 50cent surcharge out of it.

CAPTCHA: Burned

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 15:37 • by Deron Meranda (unregistered)
160661 in reply to 160629
"Extended warranty on one red paperclip? I didn't know you can do that!"

I once bought a 6-pack of ping pong balls from Dick's. The cost was something like 1.50, including tax. Then the checkout guy, after noticing a message that popped up on his terminal, paused and then asked me if I wanted to buy the extended warranty for only $5.00 more! He could barely keep himself from laughing. I was really tempted but decided to decline. He agreed with my decision (off the record), but said that he had to ask me since the computer said so.

I wish now that I had actually signed up. That would have been $5.00 well spent for future amusement.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 16:06 • by Kiasyn
160662 in reply to 160660
Marcel:
Andrew:
DeLos:


Sure, sort those beaver nickels! The currency exchange might charge you only 50 cents to collect that 0.01 cent gain!

Go stick a maple leaf flag on Santa's porch. Then, Canada will be bigger than Russia, and your egos migh heal.


So I detect a need to compensate for something?
Here's another blow to your 'ego' There's another 325 million people to the east whose money is worth more then yours :P

want me to send you a shiny new euro? wait a few months and you'll get that 50cent surcharge out of it.

CAPTCHA: Burned


..I'll take a euro, thats worth almost $2 where I live

Re: A Penny Saved... [OT]

2007-11-12 17:00 • by Rasit
Sorry for this off topic post.

Does anyone else have trouble accessing the forum and the sidebar?

If I click the "Forums" link on the top of the page I get redirected to the front page and if I try to follow the "Side bar WTF" links I get a

"The page isn't redirecting properly

Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.

* This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing to accept cookies."

And yes, I am accepting cookies and have cleaned my temp folder.

Re: A Penny Saved... [OT]

2007-11-12 17:39 • by Chris (unregistered)
160664 in reply to 160663
Rasit:
Sorry for this off topic post.

Does anyone else have trouble accessing the forum and the sidebar?

If I click the "Forums" link on the top of the page I get redirected to the front page and if I try to follow the "Side bar WTF" links I get a

"The page isn't redirecting properly

Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.

* This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing to accept cookies."

And yes, I am accepting cookies and have cleaned my temp folder.


While I can access the forums from home (now), I can confirm that this was also happening to me round about 8 hours ago. Couldn't get to anything in the forums subdomain.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 17:53 • by Zygo (unregistered)
160665 in reply to 160631
DeLos:
"Or a coin (except for you, Canada! I'll just end up mixing it in with my American change and then get frustrated when the vending machine won't accept it)"

Not a smart idea since Canadian money is now worth more than the US Dollar


Not to an American vending machine it's not.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 18:07 • by dlikhten
Aww you missed out on the rate decrease of a life time :(

Re: Redirects

2007-11-12 19:29 • by Benjamin Normoyle (unregistered)
I've had the same problem on another forum. Solution I found was clear all your cookies (all of them).

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 20:00 • by chrismcb
160668 in reply to 160631
DeLos:
"Or a coin (except for you, Canada! I'll just end up mixing it in with my American change and then get frustrated when the vending machine won't accept it)"

Not a smart idea since Canadian money is now worth more than the US Dollar

about .95 CAD to $1 USD

http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/convert?amt=1&from=USD&to=CAD&submit=Convert

I like how XE.com has to explicity explain that.
That is the USD/CAD square is the ONLY one with a "?" on it.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 20:12 • by chrismcb
160669 in reply to 160623
Pooma:
That, please, please little squirrel loving saints, can't be Alex's real address can it?

Otherwise I'm making an early nomination for real-WTF (the frist of many...)


Anyone ever heard of the "White Pages?"

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-12 21:07 • by b0bg0ats3 (unregistered)
FIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!1111!!11

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-13 02:52 • by no u (unregistered)
The real WTF is Staples' annoying advertisements.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-13 04:31 • by Tom Melly (unregistered)
Great - now I've got a name and address to use for any of those "US zip-code only, verify that you are over 18 to view this trailer"....

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-13 04:31 • by Paul (unregistered)
160689 in reply to 160641
DeLos:
Paul:
That could very well be a business address. What makes you think Alex lives there.

(In fact, a test a 10 year old would have thought of suggests he doesn't...)



And what test would that be?


chrismcb:
Anyone ever heard of the "White Pages?"


That would be the one...

For a geeky 10 year old there's always whois as well.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-13 05:17 • by mabinogi (unregistered)
160690 in reply to 160669
chrismcb:
Pooma:
That, please, please little squirrel loving saints, can't be Alex's real address can it?

Otherwise I'm making an early nomination for real-WTF (the frist of many...)


Anyone ever heard of the "White Pages?"

...and that is why the "don't publish your address on the web" paranoia is mostly sensationalist crap.

The bad guys _already_ know where you live.
And if you're the sort of person that doesn't have your address and phone number available in databases like the white pages, then you're probably not the sort of person that posts your address online anyway.

Besides, I'm more worried about the creepy guy across the street than someone on the other side of the road - and nothing I can do stops _him_ knowing where I live.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-13 05:18 • by mabinogi (unregistered)
160691 in reply to 160690
mabinogi:
...than someone on the other side of the road...

by "road", I of course meant "world"

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-13 05:33 • by dubya (unregistered)
160692 in reply to 160689
Paul:
For a geeky 10 year old there's always whois as well.

Unless Alex registered the domain through, say, GoDaddy.

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-13 07:00 • by Paul (unregistered)
160693 in reply to 160692
dubya:
Paul:
For a geeky 10 year old there's always whois as well.

Unless Alex registered the domain through, say, GoDaddy.


And how would that stop it? You just use their web based WHOIS server...

Re: A Penny Saved...

2007-11-13 07:28 • by m0ffx
160694 in reply to 160651
J:
chet:
It is always a good idea to print on the outside of an envelope - CASH CARD INSIDE!!!


You beat me to it. In fact, I noticed that WTF before the intended one.


I noticed it, then realised that that's not the envelope, it's a letter that was sent in a windowed envelope, the 'card inside' bit is not visible, only the address.
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