Comment On Actually, I Don't Need That

It's hard for me not to editorialize (read: include streams of profanities) in my code. And the screenshot below illustrates that I'm not alone. The key difference is that I actually declare all of the functions that I intend to call. Check it out yourself if you've got IE (mouse over the drawing canvas). [expand full text]
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Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:03 • by Welbog
I'm running IE and I don't get that message as a popup like that. I guess it only applies to "shitty IE", whereas I have the regular one.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:05 • by anon (unregistered)
136394 in reply to 136393
Welbog:
I'm running IE and I don't get that message as a popup like that. I guess it only applies to "shitty IE", whereas I have the regular one.


Me three.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:09 • by KingNetSurfer
yeah I use Avant, and it doesn't do it with that, and launching IE also doesn't get it to happen, not sure, apparently the people that make it have some type of error catching and have now declared it.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:09 • by bacon (unregistered)
136396 in reply to 136394
Are you running IE7?

I am...Maybe its only an IE6 bug. Or they fixed it.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:10 • by Not First (unregistered)
136397 in reply to 136393
Second

most likely you haven't got JS debugging enabled. Over-zealous ad blocking at work renders some sites completely unusable for me with JS debugging on in IE

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:10 • by MX5Ringer
Me 4,

Although from the screen shot it looks like you are using Vista, so perhaps it's a Vista thing? (Heaven forbid!!)

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:12 • by Not First (unregistered)
136399 in reply to 136398
MX5Ringer:
Me 4,

Although from the screen shot it looks like you are using Vista, so perhaps it's a Vista thing? (Heaven forbid!!)


Nope, i'm on IE7 on XP and it happens to me. It's because I've got JS debugging enabled - note the caption - "Do you want to Debug?". I bet all you guys who don't get it on IE get a little yellow triangle in the status bar.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:14 • by MX5Ringer
136400 in reply to 136399
Ah yes, I get it,

Little yellow triangle it is.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:25 • by nickfitz
You don't need the "Enable JavaScript debugging" setting - you will be notified of the error, but in a different-looking dialog and without the option to debug, if you just enable the "Show a message for every scripting error" option.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:27 • by Not First (unregistered)
136402 in reply to 136401
nickfitz:
You don't need the "Enable JavaScript debugging" setting - you will be notified of the error, but in a different-looking dialog and without the option to debug, if you just enable the "Show a message for every scripting error" option.


The Real WTF™ is that this had to be pointed out. Call yourselves techies? Sheesh!

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:28 • by Chris (unregistered)
Look in the bottom left corner of IE for a yellow triangle and double click on it.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:34 • by Nick (unregistered)
136404 in reply to 136403
Chris:
Look in the bottom left corner of IE for a yellow triangle and double click on it.


That did it, thanks.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:38 • by SomeCoder (unregistered)
136405 in reply to 136402
Not First:
nickfitz:
You don't need the "Enable JavaScript debugging" setting - you will be notified of the error, but in a different-looking dialog and without the option to debug, if you just enable the "Show a message for every scripting error" option.


The Real WTF™ is that this had to be pointed out. Call yourselves techies? Sheesh!



Sadly, I was thinking the same thing.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:38 • by villa (unregistered)
136406 in reply to 136404
The real WTF is that he's using Windows Vista. Make that shitty Windows Vista.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:53 • by Gecces (unregistered)
136408 in reply to 136393
Welbog:
I'm running IE and I don't get that message as a popup like that. I guess it only applies to "shitty IE", whereas I have the regular one.

If you're running IE, you're running "Shitty IE". There are no exceptions!

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:55 • by Welbog
136410 in reply to 136408
Gecces:
Welbog:
I'm running IE and I don't get that message as a popup like that. I guess it only applies to "shitty IE", whereas I have the regular one.
If you're running IE, you're running "Shitty IE". There are no exceptions!
Bah to you. IE is fine.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 10:57 • by travisowens
A great example of why you never put salng/profanity anywhere in your code, not as a comment, not as a function name, etc. You never know what an error will reveal.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 11:00 • by Not First (unregistered)
136412 in reply to 136411
travisowens:
A great example of why you never put salng/profanity anywhere in your code, not as a comment, not as a function name, etc. You never know what an error will reveal.


I will never forget being on holiday and receiving an email from my boss asking me what the function "OohMePiles" did.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 11:03 • by akatherder
Reminds me of my co-worker who left the "o" out of getMasterCount().

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 11:05 • by PS (unregistered)
I get crappy_Opera_needs_this error myself

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 11:06 • by MX5Ringer
136415 in reply to 136402
The Real WTF™ is that this had to be pointed out. Call yourselves techies? Sheesh!

Point taken,

I feel suitably humiliated!

It's been a long month! and I'm still 45mins from Beer O'Clock

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 11:08 • by Anon (unregistered)
The culprits is simply:

onmouseout="shitty_IE_needs_this"

Not surprisingly, this also flags errors in Firefox, although not, for whatever reason, in Opera.

If IE really needed some JavaScript handler there, I'd think "void(0)" would have been a better choice.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 11:14 • by dp.design
136417 in reply to 136410
Welbog:
Gecces:
Welbog:
I'm running IE and I don't get that message as a popup like that. I guess it only applies to "shitty IE", whereas I have the regular one.
If you're running IE, you're running "Shitty IE". There are no exceptions!
Bah to you. IE is fine.
No, it is not.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 11:15 • by Ohnonymous (unregistered)
Maybe the coder meant to put "shi-TTY" (it could happen).

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 11:15 • by MX5Ringer
136419 in reply to 136413
akatherder:
Reminds me of my co-worker who left the "o" out of getMasterCount().


I stumbled across a var named 'titfor'
I tracked down the programmer responsible for it and asked him "What's a titfor"

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 11:20 • by superpower (unregistered)
136420 in reply to 136417
dp.design:
Welbog:
Gecces:
Welbog:
I'm running IE and I don't get that message as a popup like that. I guess it only applies to "shitty IE", whereas I have the regular one.
If you're running IE, you're running "Shitty IE". There are no exceptions!
Bah to you. IE is fine.
No, it is not.


That's just ShittIE

IE, why would you do that to the world?

2007-05-15 11:21 • by cory (unregistered)
The real WTF is why you bastards are using IE and your techies!? Come on do us web developers a favor and stop using that crap browser so it'll eventually fall off the face of the earth.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 11:26 • by Anon (unregistered)
136422 in reply to 136421
cory:
The real WTF is why you bastards are using IE and your techies!? Come on do us web developers a favor and stop using that crap browser so it'll eventually fall off the face of the earth.


Seriously. If you people think IE is "Fine" you need to quit your tech job.

You should not be doing anything that affects other people if you are so inept as to accept IE.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 11:30 • by zip
136423 in reply to 136405
SomeCoder:
Not First:
nickfitz:
You don't need the "Enable JavaScript debugging" setting - you will be notified of the error, but in a different-looking dialog and without the option to debug, if you just enable the "Show a message for every scripting error" option.


The Real WTF™ is that this had to be pointed out. Call yourselves techies? Sheesh!



Sadly, I was thinking the same thing.


Same here. As long as none of the guys who couldn't see it were web developers, I guess it's not a big deal. It's not like I'm a master of debugging embedded systems or anything.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 11:34 • by anne (unregistered)
2 awesome things:

1. This application is supposedly a "Professional icon maker". Professional, indeed!
2. In the comments section, it says "Comments not related to this page or using offensive language will be deleted". Hah! Hypocrites.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 11:39 • by savar
136427 in reply to 136402
Not First:
nickfitz:
You don't need the "Enable JavaScript debugging" setting - you will be notified of the error, but in a different-looking dialog and without the option to debug, if you just enable the "Show a message for every scripting error" option.


The Real WTF™ is that this had to be pointed out. Call yourselves techies? Sheesh!


Hey Mr. Techie, why were you trying to escape an HTML character in a plain text post?

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 11:40 • by wkempf (unregistered)
136428 in reply to 136422
Options are limited. I've not run Opera, mostly because of the cost (yeah, I know it was (is?) free for a while), but the other options are either IE based (lame) or Mozilla based. And I spent the last 3 years of my life working on Mozilla technology, and trust me, IE is a MUCH better choice. The Mozilla renderer might be more standards compliant, but that's about the only thing it has going for it, and as a consumer of web pages, I could give a crap less about that.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 11:44 • by JohnDoe (unregistered)
It works well on Firefox 2.0.0.3 though.

Captcha : Cognac (let's drink to shitty IE!) ;+)

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 11:45 • by dh (unregistered)
136430 in reply to 136411
When I attended MTU oh so many years ago, students were highly encouraged not to use any 'unprofessional' words or statements anywhere in the code or, even worse, in the input/output of the program. You could expect huge deductions in your grade if you did so. Even mild language or silliness was treated very seriously. That teaching left a heavy impression on me to this day. Examples like this irritate me more than they amuse me. Fortunately, I rarely encounter such things in the companies I have worked for.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 12:12 • by Welbog
136432 in reply to 136422
Anon:
cory:
The real WTF is why you bastards are using IE and your techies!? Come on do us web developers a favor and stop using that crap browser so it'll eventually fall off the face of the earth.
Seriously. If you people think IE is "Fine" you need to quit your tech job.

You should not be doing anything that affects other people if you are so inept as to accept IE.
I love browser fights. I love them soooo much. Everybody wins browser fights (except Safari)!

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 12:16 • by TheBigYin
136433 in reply to 136421
cory:
The real WTF is why you bastards are using IE and your techies!? Come on do us web developers a favor and stop using that crap browser so it'll eventually fall off the face of the earth.


For better or worse, we live in the real world, and that means no matter what we personally think of the implmentation of IE (shitty version or otherwise) - if we are having to write real world web-apps, this means we have to use it, understand, and live with all its faults, because no matter what pollsters say, a very large number of people still use IE straight out of the box. Commercial companies who fail to realise this will not be commercial for long.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 12:17 • by dillybar1
136434 in reply to 136413
akatherder:
Reminds me of my co-worker who left the "o" out of getMasterCount().


heh, i was going through some old code the other day and found something i did like:

my($tit, $cunt) = $sth->fetchrow_array;

was supposed to be ($tit, $cont) (for title, content) but I think it almost makes more sense this way...

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 12:24 • by gwenhwyfaer
136436 in reply to 136419
MX5Ringer:
I stumbled across a var named 'titfor'
I tracked down the programmer responsible for it and asked him "What's a titfor"


And did he reply "about £45 an hour"?

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 12:27 • by Barfy (unregistered)
136437 in reply to 136428
wkempf:
Options are limited. I've not run Opera, mostly because of the cost (yeah, I know it was (is?) free for a while), but the other options are either IE based (lame) or Mozilla based. And I spent the last 3 years of my life working on Mozilla technology, and trust me, IE is a MUCH better choice. The Mozilla renderer might be more standards compliant, but that's about the only thing it has going for it, and as a consumer of web pages, I could give a crap less about that.

What good is a *browser* if is not standards compliant?

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 12:28 • by Welbog
136438 in reply to 136437
If it were that simple we'd all be using Opera.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 12:30 • by NormalTed (unregistered)
136439 in reply to 136428
Options are limited. I've not run Opera, mostly because of the cost (yeah, I know it was (is?) free for a while)


"For a while"? Opera is free, period. Has been for years. They charge for the cell phone browser, but the PC version is available free of charge (and without ads or any other crap).

I use IE6, IE7, Firefox and Opera (for reasons of Intranet support, company policy, etc.), and I have to say that Opera is easily the best one, at least for me. It is much prettier than Firefox, comes with functions like tabs and ad blocker built in, and is totally customizable so that you can define your own gestures and keyboard shortcuts. Give it a try!

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 12:30 • by hk0 (unregistered)
136440 in reply to 136434
DBI, DBD
oh how I love thee
DBI, prep/execute
I really love you

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 12:32 • by RobertB
In the summer of 1984, I was sitting in my grandparents' basement hacking together a TRS-80 terminal program for my 300 baud modem. My grandfather came down to see what I was doing, and pointed to the screen at a variable named PIDASS -- because it was where I stored a bunch of piddly-ass flags. "What's that?" he asked, disapprovingly.

What could I say? I had to tell him the truth:

"PIDASS is a bitmapped memory location containing eight bits of status information from the UART. Bitmapping allows me to use 8 bits for 8 binary values. I could store them in eight different discrete locations, but that would be a waste of memory."

"Oh, ok," he said, and went back up the stairs. He may not have been the techie type, but he taught me an important lesson about variable naming conventions.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 12:33 • by poochner
136442 in reply to 136438
Why would I pay for Opera when Firefox mostly works? Other than leaking memory like a sieve, I mean. After you get enough plugins to make it useful, anyway. But I have to figure out which ones those are ...

So how much is Opera again?

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 12:34 • by KingNetSurfer
136443 in reply to 136396
bacon:
Are you running IE7?

I am...Maybe its only an IE6 bug. Or they fixed it.


6.0.2900.2180 SP2 and like I said I'm not getting it

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 12:45 • by Someone (unregistered)
136445 in reply to 136442
poochner:
Why would I pay for Opera when Firefox mostly works? Other than leaking memory like a sieve, I mean. After you get enough plugins to make it useful, anyway. But I have to figure out which ones those are ...

So how much is Opera again?


It's free.

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 12:46 • by powerlord
136446 in reply to 136442
poochner:
Why would I pay for Opera when Firefox mostly works? Other than leaking memory like a sieve, I mean. After you get enough plugins to make it useful, anyway. But I have to figure out which ones those are ...

So how much is Opera again?


If you buy today, I can get you the PC version for the low, low price of $0!

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 12:50 • by Jojosh_the_Pi
For some of you people participating in "browser wars", could you at least please not use information that's two years old?

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 12:50 • by htg (unregistered)
Just as lame as the error loading this website:

http://worse_than_failure_premium/ can't find host.

View it in your Firefox Activity window (Window->Activity).

Re: Actually, I Don't Need That

2007-05-15 12:59 • by jallred (unregistered)
136450 in reply to 136410
You must be joking. Either that or you've never used a real browser so you don't know what you're missing.
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