Comment On Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

First and foremost, thank you all for taking the survey. Your answers and comments (which I’m still making my way through) have really given me a good insight and some ideas on where to go in the near future. Speaking of which, as a result of your feedback, I’ve implemented a few simple changes. Featured Comments [expand full text]
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Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:06 • by First? (unregistered)
Cool changes, and LOL at the "name change".

In case you didn't notice, take a peek at the logo's URL. And if you're really feeling ambitious, take a look at the url with out the "_joke" prefix... http://thedailyworsethanfailure.com/Resources/Images/Primary/logo.gif

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:08 • by KingNetSurfer
"a well-reasoned, humorous, and insightful reply"

When I tried to choose this option, I got an error, so I had to leave it blank.

you had some error in the coding, I believe it was a javascript error, tsk tsk tsk!

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:10 • by OzPeter (unregistered)
I though the whole name change question was that as professionals and adults we can both relate to and cope with "What the fuck" and that "Worse than failure" in no way conveys what we feel.

If I only wanted "worse than failure" I would limit my reading to the Risks List http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/risks

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:11 • by vt_mruhlin
second. worst.namechange. ever

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:13 • by Fman (unregistered)
166004 in reply to 166003
vt_mruhlin:
second. worst.namechange. ever


That's second.worst.namechange.ever();
you n00b

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:14 • by codemonkey (unregistered)
awww my insightful post got deleted.

anyway, The real WTF is the new WTF icon at the top:

The Daily
O ^ WORSE THAN FAILURE

Excellent!

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:14 • by PhillS
166006 in reply to 166003
vt_mruhlin:
second. worst.namechange. ever


Nice... I'm going to name my next java package second.worst.namechange.ever

Or maybe to fit into the Java guidelines it should be

ever.namechange.worst, ever.namechange.worst.second, etc.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:16 • by Jeroen Bouwens (unregistered)
Changing the site’s name from Worse Than Failure to The Daily Worse Than Failure was the “Worst. Namechange. Ever.”, trumping not only New Coke and the AT&T to Cingular to AT&T fiasco, but also the multi-billion dollar The Daily WTF to Worse Than Failure fiasco.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:18 • by diaphanein (unregistered)
Would be nice if the random article limitted itself to your current language. Sorry, I cannot read german or russian. (But #defining cOut cout does transcend language boundaries)

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:21 • by AbbydonKrafts
How exactly is adding "The Daily" in front of "Worse Than Failure" an improvement? Sure, the abbreviated name becomes "The Daily WTF" again, but it's still "Worse Than Failure".

That just does not convey what many, if not most, of the articles are about. As your survey shows, most of us just want to exclaim "WHAT THE F***?!!" when reading the articles. The only ones that I would even label "Worse Than Failure" (which I had never seen before until you renamed the site) are the articles covering large, elaborate systems that somehow manage to accomplish the task, but only in the most twisted sort of way. But, at least those still fall under the original "WTF" name.

I really don't care what the name is as I try to ignore it. In fact, I might ad-block it. But, I wanted to contribute my insight into the name problem.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:21 • by Sad Bug Killer
166013 in reply to 166001
KingNetSurfer:
"a well-reasoned, humorous, and insightful reply"

When I tried to choose this option, I got an error, so I had to leave it blank.


This was intentional... apparently only 5.5% took their time to disable JavaScript or apply other "hacks" with similar effect.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:22 • by Dan Krüsi (unregistered)
Great changes, thanks for your work. -dan

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:24 • by You broke it! (unregistered)
http://forums.thedailyworsethanfailure.com/Default.aspx

Gives:
The page isn't redirecting properly
Navigator has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.


Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:39 • by Rene (unregistered)
I can just see a future survey now:

Do you approve of the new name change?

a) yes
b) no
c) FILE NOT FOUND

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:40 • by LukeG (unregistered)
166022 in reply to 166013
I didn't even realise there was such a script. NoScript ftw.

Client-side input validation? WTF?

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:42 • by shadowman
166023 in reply to 166012
AbbydonKrafts:
How exactly is adding "The Daily" in front of "Worse Than Failure" an improvement? Sure, the abbreviated name becomes "The Daily WTF" again, but it's still "Worse Than Failure".

That just does not convey what many, if not most, of the articles are about. As your survey shows, most of us just want to exclaim "WHAT THE F***?!!" when reading the articles. The only ones that I would even label "Worse Than Failure" (which I had never seen before until you renamed the site) are the articles covering large, elaborate systems that somehow manage to accomplish the task, but only in the most twisted sort of way. But, at least those still fall under the original "WTF" name.

I really don't care what the name is as I try to ignore it. In fact, I might ad-block it. But, I wanted to contribute my insight into the name problem.


When I read some of the comments, I become convinced the name should change to "The Daily STFU"

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:46 • by Lain_13 (unregistered)
All we need is... 3 logos. %)
For thedailywtf.com -- logo with "The Daily WTF".
For thedailyworsethenfailure.com and for worsethenfailure.com logo with and without "TheDaily" words.
Anyone can choice, what they like, all possible WTF's implemented and FILE NOT FOUND!

p.s. I think mindreader in the CAPTCHA-generator broken...

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:48 • by AC (unregistered)
166026 in reply to 166023
shadowman:
AbbydonKrafts:
How exactly is adding "The Daily" in front of "Worse Than Failure" an improvement? Sure, the abbreviated name becomes "The Daily WTF" again, but it's still "Worse Than Failure".

That just does not convey what many, if not most, of the articles are about. As your survey shows, most of us just want to exclaim "WHAT THE F***?!!" when reading the articles. The only ones that I would even label "Worse Than Failure" (which I had never seen before until you renamed the site) are the articles covering large, elaborate systems that somehow manage to accomplish the task, but only in the most twisted sort of way. But, at least those still fall under the original "WTF" name.

I really don't care what the name is as I try to ignore it. In fact, I might ad-block it. But, I wanted to contribute my insight into the name problem.


When I read some of the comments, I become convinced the name should change to "The Daily STFU"


In the spirit of this article I think this deserves a
Best. Comment. Ever.

Seriously, I laughed really hard seeing the new logo!!

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:49 • by kernelman (unregistered)
... in order to please everyone all the time, I’ve decided to rename the site yet again. The new, new name is “The Daily Worse Than Failure” ...

Ah, yes, because The Compromise™ is the way to enlightenment and powerful brands.
Really, the change to "Worse Than Failure" was a sad display of bowing down to the Political Correctness freaks who want to ban everything in this world that is expressive, human and genuine.

By re-adding "the daily" to the title you have completely misinterpreted what (I hope at least) the nay-voters think is stupid about the original name change. It's NOT about the fact that it's daily. "Worse Than Failure" is a contrived backronym and its continued use only tells us that you have no discernible spine.

PC FTL.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:49 • by Chucara (unregistered)
The real WTF (Worst Than Failure?) here is trying to please users. REAL programmers know that users don't know what's good for them, as they are all dolts.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:50 • by gabba
Ah, a _compromise_ name. I'm sure this will make everyone happy and we'll hear no more about it.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:51 • by s. (unregistered)
And I'm curious about the "leave this item blank" entry results distribution.

captcha: nulla, oddly appropriate

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:52 • by s. (unregistered)
The Real WTF is the commenters taking the name change seriously.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:57 • by monsieurben (unregistered)
166034 in reply to 166004
Actually Fman's pretty hardcore, using ., the Haskell compose function operator.

Take ever, filter namechanges, sort them worst to best, and return the second.

Personally, though, I think "Worse Than Failure" is the best name to describe the content, and it's now a phrase I use often. I may be in a 5.8% minority (seriously?!), but I'm grateful the original change occurred.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 09:59 • by hilen (unregistered)
166035 in reply to 166012
How exactly is adding "The Daily" in front of "Worse Than Failure" an improvement?
It make the first name change is no longer the worst one.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:00 • by morpcat
What about "survey not robot proof"?

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:03 • by Strokkur (unregistered)
"The daily" really wasn't the bit we missed. How can you have failed to spot that?

If you're not willing to put WTF back then why ask the question?

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:06 • by Hugh Jeffner (unregistered)
Why do you have 2 domains pointing to the same server? If the googlebot etc, senses duplicate content you can be penalized in the index... You should set up a 301 permanent redirect for one of the domains.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:06 • by KattMan (unregistered)
so does this mean I need to get new stickers from the site? Do I have to remove the old ones? My bumper can only take so much.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:07 • by German B (unregistered)
The REAL WTF is people are STILL talking about this "namechange" seriously as if the first post didn't reveal that it was a joke!

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:07 • by Just another random reader (unregistered)
"The Daily Worse Than Failure" is even worse than "Worse Than Failure".

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:08 • by Gyske
I'd like to propose a new, new, new URL:
http://thewebsiteformerlyknownasthedailywtfandworsethanfailure.com

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:09 • by anon (unregistered)
This might have been already ask in some other comment thread, but do you intend to keep the "thedailywtf.com" domain (not that I want to have it, I'm just too lazy to update the entry in my RSS-Reader [thinking of which, while I'm typing this comment, I would have had it updated at least three times])?

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:10 • by Plots withint Plots (unregistered)
Speaking of which, I’m surprised that only 5.5% of you said that, given the opportunity to leave that first comment, you’d leave “a well-reasoned, humorous, and insightful reply.” Tsk, tsk, tsk.

When that option was selected you disallowed it with an error message, so I'm surprised it was that high. WTF!

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:10 • by anon (unregistered)
166047 in reply to 166044
seconded. I love it!!!

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:10 • by . (unregistered)
166048 in reply to 166000
First?:
Cool changes, and LOL at the "name change".

In case you didn't notice, take a peek at the logo's URL. And if you're really feeling ambitious, take a look at the url with out the "_joke" prefix... http://thedailyworsethanfailure.com/Resources/Images/Primary/logo.gif


The Real WTF is that you don't know the difference between a prefix and a suffix.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:12 • by AC (unregistered)
166049 in reply to 166027
kernelman:

By re-adding "the daily" to the title you have completely misinterpreted what (I hope at least) the nay-voters think is stupid about the original name change. It's NOT about the fact that it's daily. "Worse Than Failure" is a contrived backronym and its continued use only tells us that you have no discernible spine.

PC FTL.


I hereby propose the new name Worse Than Fuck.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:16 • by AbbydonKrafts
s.:
The Real WTF is the commenters taking the name change seriously.


Ah.. but how do you know that they are being serious or not? It could be possible that they are debating seriously, but only doing it for fun. For instance, my first comment was just some insight into the whole fiasco. Since the survey itself was a joke, it is blatantly obvious that the name change was an even bigger one.

hilen:
It make the first name change is no longer the worst one.


Point taken.

KattMan:
so does this mean I need to get new stickers from the site? Do I have to remove the old ones? My bumper can only take so much.


Why stop with the bumper? You have an entire car to work with! If only I could get a picture of that truck that appears around here every now and then, I'd give you some inspiration.

Gyske:
I'd like to propose a new, new, new URL:
http://thewebsiteformerlyknownasthedailywtfandworsethanfailure.com


FTW!

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:18 • by Daniel Beardsmore
166052 in reply to 166023
AbbydonKrafts:
How exactly is adding "The Daily" in front of "Worse Than Failure" an improvement? Sure, the abbreviated name becomes "The Daily WTF" again, but it's still "Worse Than Failure".

Well, "The Daily WTF" abbreviates to "TDWTF". "Worse Than Failure" abbreviates too "WTF". The latter is, in e-mails and instant messaging, annoyingly ambiguous. Oh, and it's nice to see thedailywtf.com working again -- I left my bookmark using that URL and now it's working as normal. Woo!
shadowman:
When I read some of the comments, I become convinced the name should change to "The Daily STFU"

:-P

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:19 • by Cope with IT (unregistered)
166054 in reply to 166005
codemonkey:
Excellent!

Not only that, it's also brillant.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:21 • by Ciaran
The real WTF is how many people can't even *read*. Come on, people, the first comment is even highlighted. Go back and read it. Closely.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:21 • by Cope with IT (unregistered)
166056 in reply to 166008
Jeroen Bouwens:
Changing the site’s name from Worse Than Failure to The Daily Worse Than Failure was the “Worst. Namechange. Ever.”, trumping not only New Coke and the AT&T to Cingular to AT&T fiasco, but also the multi-billion dollar The Daily WTF to Worse Than Failure fiasco.
What about "worst.namechange.ever.com"?

Captcha: transverberro ... Now, really ... C'mon

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:22 • by OzPeter (unregistered)
166057 in reply to 166032
s.:
The Real WTF is the commenters taking the name change seriously.


60% of the survey takers stated that the first name change was the worst one ever. And if the are like me, then they selected that option because they preferred the original WTF name.

Now we find the named changed again and to one that (IMHO) is even more lame. And it looks like the survey results were deliberately misunderstood.

This smacks of pandering to an unamed minority rather than listening to what the majority stated. Given that ad revenue is based on a numbers game, I would say that pleasing the majority is a better business model for the long term (unless of course you feel you can easily replace the people you have annoyed)

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:22 • by JW (unregistered)
166058 in reply to 166030
@gabba:
a compromise doesn't have to mean the best of both worlds.
Example:
-farmers ask for rain to help grow their stuff
-the rest asks for sunshine, to enjoy the day

Compromise:
-a cloudy day without rain, nobody happy.. ;)

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:27 • by bryan986
Apparently nothing in the sidebar is best...

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:30 • by WhiskeyJack
Here's a hint. The relevant posts are even helpfully highlighted in blue. They follow a trend...

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:33 • by Joshua Norman (unregistered)
Hahahaha holy god you people bitching about the "new name" are seriously dense. Take a look at the image URL for the "new logo"

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:36 • by Joshua Norman (unregistered)
166063 in reply to 166062
Joshua Norman:
Hahahaha holy god you people bitching about the "new name" are seriously dense. Take a look at the image URL for the "new logo"


(self reply wooo)

And hell, the FIST~~!~!~!~!~ or whatever the hell it is has all the info you need. Proof positive that you people are conditioned to not read the first post anymore. Sheesh.

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:40 • by RMW (unregistered)
166064 in reply to 166001
same (i got a message saying it was invalid)

Re: Announcement: 2007 Survey Results & Site Changes

2007-12-11 10:44 • by AbbydonKrafts
166065 in reply to 166064
RMW:
same (i got a message saying it was invalid)


It was just Javascript. The people who chose it were those who disabled Javascript - probably specifically for the purpose of circumventing that particular block.
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