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Here's the final episode of the Payback series (one of my personal favorites), originally published on 2006-Mar-31 ... [expand full text]
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Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-27 10:33 • by Mikademus
Oh, this one, the horrendous database coupled with Yet More Management Ineptitude WTF. Well, a good read the second time over, too :)

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-27 10:53 • by wolph
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I still, really hope that it's auto generated.

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-27 11:03 • by Unomi
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Anonymous:
I still, really hope that it's auto generated.

Well, it sure is a reason not just auto-generate things like database tables or whatever that needs to be maintained.

It sounds cool to auto-generate things, but if this is the result, you better are not on the end of maintaining it.

- Unomi -
 

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-27 12:05 • by Mikademus
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Auto-generation could actually be one of the ultimate Turing tests - only an intelligent producer can generate intelligent, relevant and comprehensible code/databases/etc. But let's call it the Dillbert test instead because let's face it, it is easy to trick the teeming masses of lowly normals, but us technicians are another breed, in action how like an angel, in apprehension how like a god!

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-27 12:22 • by annoynimous
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That's why we all knwo the compilers are precursors of the Armageddon !



It's terrifying thing to imagine, what large share opf machine code is autogenerated novadays by careless RAD adopters!



captcha: mustache, sure we all with have a lot of ache with this auto-generating stuff!

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-27 13:39 • by Volmarias
Alex Papadimoulis:

These days, stories are sanitized much, much more: different line of business, different system name, different location, and so on.



Yes, because we couldn't figure out the real company that put out a certain digital donkey.

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-27 13:56 • by Steamer2k
So everyone in the company was fully aware and accepting of the fact that their code was WTFy?

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-27 14:00 • by Rafael Larios
108812 in reply to 108809

 

Well that was a really big WTF..... and knowing the name of the company won't harm them any more than they've been harmed by bad press, and of course, a really horrible product.......

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-27 14:03 • by Rafael Larios
108813 in reply to 108810

If you had to maintain that kind of code... wouldn't you really know if that was one of the penalties for been a murderor in a previous life?, let alone a WTF in itself??

 

captcha: awesomeness..... indeed!

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-27 14:18 • by asuffield
Alex Papadimoulis:

These days, stories are sanitized much, much more: different line of business, different system name, different location, and so on.

So in fact, they're pretty much just fiction. Not that I ever gave the site any more credence than expertsexchange or El Reg - this isn't journalism. Reality just isn't that entertaining (and is a lot dumber than most of the stuff that gets posted here).

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-27 14:29 • by Anonymous Sniveller
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So in fact, they're pretty much just fiction. Not that I ever gave the site any more credence than expertsexchange or El Reg - this isn't journalism. Reality just isn't that entertaining (and is a lot dumber than most of the stuff that gets posted here).

As a professor of Computer Science at my university used to say:  "Never let the truth stand in the way of a good story."

 

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-27 14:43 • by themagni
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asuffield:
Alex Papadimoulis:

These days, stories are sanitized much, much more: different line of business, different system name, different location, and so on.

So in fact, they're pretty much just fiction. Not that I ever gave the site any more credence than expertsexchange or El Reg - this isn't journalism. Reality just isn't that entertaining (and is a lot dumber than most of the stuff that gets posted here).

No, I don't think they're fiction. At least, not as far as Alex knows. Someone could just make something up.

I don't think anyone could make up this much crapola for so long. As the saying goes, "truth is stranger than fiction because fiction has to make sense."

 

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-27 15:17 • by KattMan
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asuffield:
Alex Papadimoulis:

These days, stories are sanitized much, much more: different line of business, different system name, different location, and so on.

So in fact, they're pretty much just fiction. Not that I ever gave the site any more credence than expertsexchange or El Reg - this isn't journalism. Reality just isn't that entertaining (and is a lot dumber than most of the stuff that gets posted here).

They are only fiction in the sense that they are "inspired by true events, the names have been changed to protect the guilty, innocent, victims, perpetrators, cows, etc."  Of course most of the time I think they are closer to the truth than, say, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-27 16:59 • by Corporate Cog
Imagine how many great wtfs there are out there for fear of such things.

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-27 22:19 • by pacman
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asuffield:
Alex Papadimoulis:

These days, stories are sanitized much, much more: different line of business, different system name, different location, and so on.

So in fact, they're pretty much just fiction. Not that I ever gave the site any more credence than expertsexchange or El Reg - this isn't journalism. Reality just isn't that entertaining (and is a lot dumber than most of the stuff that gets posted here).

Does redacting the company name, their business, and their propietary system make a story fiction? I think not.

From what I see, the stories here seem perfectly feasable. When you get down to it, a lot of them aren't even that much of a WTF. Management blunder, misconfiguration, etc. It happens to us all.

It's the way they're told that keeps me coming back. The Call of Codethulu. Pure gold.

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-27 23:51 • by Einsidler
108863 in reply to 108860
The thing I loved about this story is the fact that, in the end, the people who worked there had a sense of humour about the whole thing, rather than going apeshit at him like they pretended to.

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-28 00:54 • by Brad

The real wtf is the relative urls in the RSS feed ;)  Its giving my web based rss agg fits (www.blorq.com)

 

 

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-28 08:38 • by sir_flexalot
If you can recognize your code after it's been anonymized, it probably belongs here!

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-28 13:27 • by Dieter@be
Now this was a great post!  You really had me there :)

Re: Best of 2006: Payback's Payback

2006-12-29 09:56 • by Anon

"These days, stories are sanitized much, much more: different line of
business, different system name, different location, and so on."

 Remember the company that had a COBOL developed front end that was then translated into C++, developed software for auto dealerships. Anyone who had ever interacted with UCS in Houston at any level immediately recognized that to be them.

 

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