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Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 10:30 • by KattMan
And of course this is the way you should do it.  The web afterall is a Visual Medium, I just don't know who it is channeling.

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 10:34 • by WIldpeaks
They forgot to fold the paper before faxing it as well

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 10:40 • by anon

I know this is a running joke, but is it possible the class was teaching basic computer functions (such as designing something in word, printing, and scanning)?  Maybe this assignment was not done to show the correct way to design a web page but rather as an assignment to show the student had mastered basics such as printing/scanning.

 

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 10:42 • by garyman99
... I don't feel quite as bad taking pictures of my Polaroids anymore. 

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 10:49 • by sjs
108686 in reply to 108681

It's possible that whoever took the photo didn't have the original artwork and didn't print and/or design the paper they photographed.
 

But it's equally likely that they just didn't know how to export the Word document as an image for their web page, and went the Web 0.1 route.

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 10:51 • by Beermad

While not wanting to detract from how amusing the example is, perhaps the person posting it ought to have been a little more careful about getting what he wrote right?

[...]"it may not seem to visible"[...] OH DEAR!!!

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 11:08 • by Jackal von ÖRF

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 11:20 • by dustin

Bah this isn't enterprisey enough.

I bet the table used is made out of cheap pressed wood. For our organizations implementation everyone will need to have 100% oak wooden tables made by the Amish.

Captcha: captcha? Infinite loop lol internet.

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 11:22 • by anonymous

I love your site, Alex, but if you want to see a WTF, do View | Page Source on this site.  Wow:

 

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
<!--
function KeyDownHandlerctl00_ctl01_bhcr_t___TitleBarSearchButton(event)
{
if (event.keyCode == 13)
{
event.returnValue = false;
event.cancel = true;
__doPostBack('ctl00$ctl01$bhcr$t$_$TitleBarSearchButton','') }
}
//-->
</script>
All I have to say is Telligent == "Brillant!" 

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 11:26 • by jspenguin
108696 in reply to 108695
Anonymous:

I love your site, Alex, but if you want to see a WTF, do View | Page Source on this site.  Wow:

 

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
<!--
function KeyDownHandlerctl00_ctl01_bhcr_t___TitleBarSearchButton(event)
{
if (event.keyCode == 13)
{
event.returnValue = false;
event.cancel = true;
__doPostBack('ctl00$ctl01$bhcr$t$_$TitleBarSearchButton','') }
}
//-->
</script>
All I have to say is Telligent == "Brillant!" 

 

I don't know much about ASP.NET, but that looks like it is auto-generated. 

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 11:29 • by enviousofjackalvonorfsmonitor
108697 in reply to 108690

Jackal von ÖRF:

 

rofl.  And by the way, nice monitor, I am envious.

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 11:38 • by enviousofjackalvonorfsmonitor
108701 in reply to 108696
jspenguin:
Anonymous:

I love your site, Alex, but if you want to see a WTF, do View | Page Source on this site.  Wow:

 

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
<!--
function KeyDownHandlerctl00_ctl01_bhcr_t___TitleBarSearchButton(event)
{
if (event.keyCode == 13)
{
event.returnValue = false;
event.cancel = true;
__doPostBack('ctl00$ctl01$bhcr$t$_$TitleBarSearchButton','') }
}
//-->
</script>
All I have to say is Telligent == "Brillant!" 

 

I don't know much about ASP.NET, but that looks like it is auto-generated. 

 

Parts are most definitely generated by ASP.Net.

"ctl01_bhcr_t___TitleBarSearchButton" is a great example of the value of MyCustomControl.ClientID.  ASP.Net uses the server side control hierarchy to generate the client (html) id.  e.g. TitleBarSearchButton is a control inside t which is inside bhcr which is inside ctl01.

 

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 11:48 • by mare
108702 in reply to 108697
Jackal von ÖRF: After you took that photo, you of course printed it and scanned it back into computer, right? You surely didnt just download it from the camera, did you?

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 11:50 • by rewind
108703 in reply to 108697

I do have to say that this is an awesome monitor...I am looking at mine right now. It also has Component inputs...so I have my 360 hooked up also, pumping widescreen, high-def goodness.

Resisting the urge to buy a second this season has been a challenge.

I got mine through the dell outlet...factory refurb...but I have had no problems.

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 11:56 • by spookmonkey
108705 in reply to 108676
Saw this method employed in the area of desktop publishing as well at a former employer. The powers that be had asked one of their assistants to distribute a new organization chart since we had done some managment "shuffling".

So, to produce this chart, she managed to use Windows Paint to print everyone's name on to one page of paper each. She then took these printouts, some yarn, & scotch tape, and created a new chart that ran floor to ceiling. Taking a digital camera, she took a photo of the new chart, and distributed that as our new official chart.

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 12:24 • by Sweet Raspberry Danish
108710 in reply to 108690

Jackal von ÖRF:

Wow you've got a lot of junk in your system tray...

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 12:36 • by J.
108712 in reply to 108710

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 12:40 • by me
108713 in reply to 108712

Gnaa... frames are so web 0.0.1

 

CAPTCHA: wtf 

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 12:46 • by Sweet Raspberry Danish
108714 in reply to 108712

Anonymous:

Uh oh... this is turning into the InfiniteWTF project  (www.infinitecat.com if you don't know what I'm talking about)

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 12:55 • by Colyn
Amusing as this is, I can't help but think that the website is in exactly the format the designer was going for. Being a school webpage, could it be possible that the design was meant to look like a piece of paper on a students desk? You're being somewhat presumptuous in thinking there wasn't a purpose for all those seemingly unnecessary steps.

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 13:35 • by cebesius
108718 in reply to 108716

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 13:45 • by Jackal von ÖRF
108719 in reply to 108702

mare:
Jackal von ÖRF: After you took that photo, you of course printed it and scanned it back into computer, right? You surely didnt just download it from the camera, did you?

Unfortunately I only copied it straight from the camera's memory card. I did consider using a film camera and scanning the photo, but developing the film would have taken too long (nobody would read this thread anymore).

I'm not sure if my color printer has enough ink (I use primarily a B&W laser printer), so I'm leaving the printing and scanning to the next person. ;)

EDIT: Looks like somebody already did that. :D 

Anonymous:

Wow you've got a lot of junk in your system tray...

 And what's even more amazing, only about two or three of them are unnecessary. I'm quite strict on which programs I let start automatically, but still there are quite many programs which I keep running in the tray.

Here's a list of what the systray icons are for:

- Evation Irman (for using a remote controller with the PC, very handy in watching movies)
- Norton Internet Security
- OpenOffice.org Suickstarter
- Palm Hotsync
- foobar2000
- Miranda IM
- YPOPs! (POP access to Yahoo)
- mIRC
- Locate32 (for seaching files from HDD)
- TightVNC Server
- BulletProof FTP Server (soon I won't need this anymore, when I've moved all my documents to a dedicated server)
- Genius (collection handy little tools like ping, traceroute, time, whois, password generator, conversions (feet to meters etc.) and dozens others)
- FastStone Capture (for taking screenshots)
- Exif Launcher (some crap which came with my digital camera)
- uTorrent
- Bluetooth (useless tray icon, I'm not sure if it can be hidden)
- Volume
- NetMeter (shows network activity, in a detailed popup window)
- Network LED (shows network activity, directly in the tray icon, but not as detailed as NetMeter)
- Safely Remove Hardware
- Daemon Tools

Another Method

2006-12-26 13:50 • by micksam7
screen shot eh?

The computer monitor + cell phone + bluetooth + bitpim method.

Re: ...

2006-12-26 14:02 • by Oitzu
108721 in reply to 108720

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 14:14 • by dustin

lol infinite daily wtf's

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 14:14 • by dustin
lol infinite daily wtfs.

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 14:52 • by rogthefrog
108730 in reply to 108719
Jackal von ÖRF:

- Miranda IM
- mIRC

Why use both? Miranda handles IRC as well.

 

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 15:07 • by Big John
108731 in reply to 108705
Personally I think its a giant WTF of Jackal von ÖRF to use a resolution of 1680x1050 pixels and still maximise the windows. Your kind of missing the point of using a Window manager.. ? Don't worry, you're not alone, alot of Windows-users seems to suffer from this decease.

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 15:18 • by rogthefrog
108733 in reply to 108705
Anonymous:
Saw this method employed in the area of desktop publishing as well at a former employer. The powers that be had asked one of their assistants to distribute a new organization chart since we had done some managment "shuffling".

So, to produce this chart, she managed to use Windows Paint to print everyone's name on to one page of paper each. She then took these printouts, some yarn, & scotch tape, and created a new chart that ran floor to ceiling. Taking a digital camera, she took a photo of the new chart, and distributed that as our new official chart.

MS Visio(tm), Macramé Edition 

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 15:25 • by micksam7
108734 in reply to 108730
rogthefrog:
Jackal von ÖRF:

- Miranda IM
- mIRC

Why use both? Miranda handles IRC as well.

 



Maybe, but it's just a guess, that mirc handles irc a bit better? I mean, all-in-one solutions are great, but sometimes your just used to another app, or maybe there are features in that dedicated app that the all-in-one solution doesn't have.

Hence why I use mIRC instead of Opera's IRC or GAIM's irc meself. :D

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 16:46 • by koning_robot
108742 in reply to 108731

Anonymous:
Personally I think its a giant WTF of Jackal von ÖRF to use a resolution of 1680x1050 pixels and still maximise the windows. Your kind of missing the point of using a Window manager.. ? Don't worry, you're not alone, alot of Windows-users seems to suffer from this decease.

Actually, the window manager instead of the user should manage windows.  http://ratpoison.nongnu.org/

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 16:57 • by iwpg
108744 in reply to 108731
Anonymous:
Personally I think its a giant WTF of Jackal von ÖRF to use a resolution of 1680x1050 pixels and still maximise the windows. Your kind of missing the point of using a Window manager.. ? Don't worry, you're not alone, alot of Windows-users seems to suffer from this decease.

So what do you suggest he should do if he wants a full-screen browser? Uninstall Windows and use DOS?

Re: ...

2006-12-26 17:55 • by aquanight
108746 in reply to 108721
Anonymous:
...


Of course, The Real WTF is you didn't screenshot, open the screenshot, and THEN take the picture. Like so:





(edit: yes, I suck with a camera. Even a digital one.)

Re: ...

2006-12-26 18:08 • by Craig Francis
108747 in reply to 108721

Or you could try a lovely 30" display running at 2560x1600... and using a Mac, the window manager does not allow you to truly Maximise (which, trust me, is defiantly a good thing).

Please note that I was a Windows user last year, and now the chains have been released!

PS: The old 1280x1024 screen (19") is used as a secondary display.

Sorry, gloat over... back to work.

:-P

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 18:14 • by Zumdahl
Infinite Monitors

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 18:39 • by Mabinogi
108749 in reply to 108731

Personally I think its a giant WTF of Jackal von ÖRF to use a resolution of 1680x1050 pixels and still maximise the windows. Your kind of missing the point of using a Window manager.. ? Don't worry, you're not alone, alot of Windows-users seems to suffer from this decease.

He only did it to annoy you.

Personally.


Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 18:44 • by Jackal von ÖRF
108750 in reply to 108731

Anonymous:
Personally I think its a giant WTF of Jackal von ÖRF to use a resolution of 1680x1050 pixels and still maximise the windows. Your kind of missing the point of using a Window manager.. ? Don't worry, you're not alone, alot of Windows-users seems to suffer from this decease.

The resolution is 1920x1200 (24" widescreen), and usually I have the web browser about 1000px wide, because reading web pages is hard, if they are maximized with this display (reading a line almost requires turning the head). I maximized it only to take that picture.

On Linux (at school and when I access my home server through VNC) I use Ion2 (which manages my windows nicely), but on this desktop I have only Windows. I haven't yet been able to move fully away from Windows... =/

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 18:52 • by Big John
108751 in reply to 108744
iwpg:
Anonymous:
Personally I think its a giant WTF of Jackal von ÖRF to use a resolution of 1680x1050 pixels and still maximise the windows. Your kind of missing the point of using a Window manager.. ? Don't worry, you're not alone, alot of Windows-users seems to suffer from this decease.
So what do you suggest he should do if he wants a full-screen browser? Uninstall Windows and use DOS?


As i previously said, its a decease... He needs to be cured from the strange desire of wanting all his windows maximised.

I believe Craig Francis showed us a spectacular example of how constant maxmisation of windows is completely a inept concept. I would bet you a thousand dollars that if you put a standard windows user infront a windows computer with a 2560x1600 resolution he/she would instantly subdue to the overwhelming desire of the maxmise-decease and quickly attempt to double click on the window border. I have seen this many times, however not on that large of a resolution, maybe the victim finally would realise the folishness of his/her ways and immediatly snap out of it... Then again,maybe not.

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 19:06 • by Nacho
mmmmmmm probably too much...  :)" />

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 19:17 • by Simple Jacob
108754 in reply to 108751

Decease = to die

Disease = illness.

The tendency to mis-use the word decease is a disease.

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 19:21 • by Big John
108755 in reply to 108754
Touché

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 19:58 • by EnterUserNameHere

Of all the days I could have taken off I had to choose THIS week...imagine what I could have done with this on my 4-panel setup at work!

And the color laser printers.

And my digital camera.

And the scanners.

And the solid wood conference table (which COULD have been crafted by the Amish).

I don't suppose there's any chance anyone will be reading this thread NEXT Tuesday, is there? 

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 20:02 • by iwpg
108758 in reply to 108751
Anonymous:
He needs to be cured from the strange desire of wanting all his windows maximised.

And who the hell are you to tell other people how to use their own computers?

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 20:36 • by RobertJohnK
108760 in reply to 108758
On the original WTF: it should be obvious even from the blurred first screenshot that this is a hobbyist site, not unlikely to be related to Halloween. It could very well intentionally be a picture of an example of an invitation/recipe (or other sort of actually printed list). Made by some tween or granny who are not paid technology experts. They would indeed be happy to find any method to get something on-line.

I've seen morons in the industry and read some funny stuff here, but those who think this was funny should load some old Geocities pages - you'll have a great time.

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 21:18 • by H3SO5
108761 in reply to 108752

Anonymous:
mmmmmmm probably too much...  :)" />

 

 

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-26 23:59 • by Disintegrator
108768 in reply to 108761

 

jejejewhy hotizontal?

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-27 01:59 • by seebs
108773 in reply to 108731

Anonymous:
Personally I think its a giant WTF of Jackal von ÖRF to use a resolution of 1680x1050 pixels and still maximise the windows. Your kind of missing the point of using a Window manager.. ? Don't worry, you're not alone, alot of Windows-users seems to suffer from this decease.

Then you've missed the entire point of window management.  The goal is to get the best available display of whatever you're looking at.

 I have a 1600x1200 firefox, and a 1600x1200 xterm, and a 1600x1200 xchat, and so on.  I see one thing at a time -- the thing I'm looking at.  The thing I am looking at gets displayed the best way it possibly can, with large, clear, fonts and graphics.

 Non-maximized windows are a sop to GUIs that depend on poorly-controlled hiding and layering models.  Virtual desktop panels are the way to go.


 

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-27 03:07 • by felix
108774 in reply to 108731

Anonymous:
Personally I think its a giant WTF of Jackal von ÖRF to use a resolution of 1680x1050 pixels and still maximise the windows. Your kind of missing the point of using a Window manager.. ? Don't worry, you're not alone, alot of Windows-users seems to suffer from this decease.

I'll tell you what the problem is with a lot Windows users: they get dizzy easily. Multitasking is confusing, you know. Remebering what one was working on a few seconds ago? Gee, that's so old-school. Besides, consider your typical Photoshop/Dreamweaver/IDE window. 1280x1024 is barely enough. As for using several tools at once, that's so... Linux-ish. Oh no, I said Linux. Gaaah!

At least Jackal von ÖRF had a good reason. Otherwise this attitude IS widespread. Sadly. 

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-27 03:07 • by Jimmy Jones
108775 in reply to 108697
Anonymous:

Jackal von ÖRF:

 

rofl.  And by the way, nice monitor, I am envious.

Landscape monitors suck. Almost NOTHING in the real world is landscape shaped so you spend all that money just to look at blank space.

 

Re: Best of 2006: Web 0.1

2006-12-27 03:23 • by Gaurav
108776 in reply to 108761
My screenshot

Too much? What's too much?
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