Comment On But I Typed In nslookup?

I'm running w/e the current version of Firefox, and it renders quite
fine.  I dunno why everyone else seems to have issues with the
fox;  I haven't had a single one that I always hear people
complaining about.  I do have an issue though.. I can't use the
emoticon panel.  Aside from that, replies work, quotes work, etc,
etc.

Anonymous:

This site <a href="http://schend.net/images/funky.jpg>looks really good in Firefox with those big screenshots.

Real people run real resolutions, 1024x768 is soooooo 1998 [and so is the teletubbie XP-theme btw  ;) ] ;)

JThelen:

I'm running w/e the current version of Firefox, and it renders quite
fine.  I dunno why everyone else seems to have issues with the
fox;  I haven't had a single one that I always hear people
complaining about.  I do have an issue though.. I can't use the
emoticon panel.  Aside from that, replies work, quotes work, etc,
etc.

Same here, although I've never tried the emoticon thingies. It's not
Firefox that's the problem, it's teeny-tiny screens. At 1024X768,
running Firefox or IE6 maximized, you have to scroll right very
slightly to see the whole image. At 1280X1024, it all fits. At 800X600,
I'd imagine the image would take a bit o' scrollin'.

I like how IE offers to check availability of the domain name. [:)]

I (unfortunately) am stuck dealing with tech support for one of our subcontrators who has...shall we say...less than competent understanding of computers. She wonders why her files disappear when she ejects her CD (hint: the files she's looking at are currently on the CD, which is no longer in the drive).

She regularly sends me screenshots of error messages she gets. She emails me an attachment that is a 24-bit BMP image of her dual-monitor system. I love getting to work in the morning to find an 7.5 MB email from this lady. There was one time where her computer freaked out and it sent the email 10 times. That's 75 MB. My mailbox is limited to 60 MB, which means for the next several hours, all incoming mail was bounced back. Bitch.

This is what you get for hiring part-time teenagers on summer vacation.

Hi,



Whenever I get text overlapped with a screenshot, I find a forced redraw will fix things real purdy like. ;)

icelava:

This is what you get for hiring part-time teenagers on summer vacation.

No, I think part-time teenagers are usually better than this.  I'm betting on project managers who'd claimed for extended periods of time to the business community that they were "technical"  or even "developers" (that's what they do here!), and then were caught flat-footed when all the people they turned to for the real answers left the company in complete and utter disgust.

Forgive my bitterness...

Are you kidding me? And people keep saying that there's a shortage of IT jobs out there. Maybe if all the MORONS lost their jobs the rest of us would have great job security, 4X the current pay and some well earned respect. No wonder so many jobs are being shipped overseas: why not get a foreign idiot for 1/8 the price of a domestic idiot? Yikes! [:|]

sinistral:

For once, we can't blame Microsoft for a gross problem in their
software.  Although if it had Google like intelligence, maybe you
would get something like "Did you mean to type nslookup
webservices.initech-global.com in a command shell?"

The problem is google would be too polite about it.  I think an
error message like "You meant to type that in a command shell. 
Perhaps you should consider not breeding." would be more
appropriate. 



And I can't wait to see what the WTF apologists come up with on this one. 

And I can't wait to see what the WTF apologists come up with on this one.

Well this is quite obviously a lack of proper documentation.  If
the company developing the web service had stated it plainly that
nslookup must be used in the command shell, there wouldn't have been
this problem.



Now what is the sarcasm markup tag again? :P



Seriously though, I've dealt with this many times.  Although
usually when I've dealt with it, it's been a brain-dead non-technical
person doing it, not a brain-dead  "IT Professional".  In
fact, a techie who makes a mistake like this should get a new
description.  I like "Fired".

OMG ... HOW can you be a network techie if you don't even know what nslookup is!



I can understand dig tripping up an un-experienced techie but HOW can
you possibly manage a network that uses DNS without being able to look
up what is mapped to what in some way?

JimNtexas:

Thanks for saving me the trouble of posting a screenshot...I had to
expand Firefox to cover most of two screens to see this thread.



I'm like "WTF, I can't see the WTF?!!!!????"

I was thinking the same but then I had the brain storm to quote the first post and then I could actually read it!

<sarcasm>



The MSN website could have used JavaScript
to redirect the query to a local invocation of nslookup in a command
shell... that would be a very Micro$oft solution, wouldn't it?



</sarcasm>

MSN is clearly at fault here. Since Microsoft wrote nslookup, why don't they just recognise the executable in the search term, execute the program and return the results? Idiots.

clockwise:

MSN is clearly at fault here. Since Microsoft
wrote nslookup, why don't they just recognise the executable in the
search term, execute the program and return the results? Idiots.

I realize that you have hidden sarcasm tags there, but I had a thought
that it might not be a bad thing for them to do.  Well, OK,
running executables from a web browser is a bad thing.  Maybe as
the number one search result in their MSN search.  That could be
helpful...

clockwise:

MSN is clearly at fault here. Since Microsoft
wrote nslookup, why don't they just recognise the executable in the
search term, execute the program and return the results? Idiots.

I wish they would do this, so I can't start linking to "format c:" from my webpage...

clockwise:

MSN is clearly at fault here. Since Microsoft wrote nslookup, why don't they just recognise the executable in the search term, execute the program and return the results? Idiots.

I wonder if ms really wrote nslookup. Then ms has infiltrated my linux machine! Oh noooooooo!

[:'(]

Oh, i think i understand why the guys at the other end didn't understand. If you read the first few lines on http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/nslookup.mspx you will find the reason too. They are simply not familiar with how DNS works. [:'(]

Drak

Well, not quite. Microsoft didn't write nslookup any more than they wrote traceroute (tracert on NT)

The biggest WTF here is that the person was using Microsoft Idiot Exploiter.

Tom:

The biggest WTF here is that the person was using Microsoft Idiot Exploiter.

I find that comment offensve to us idiots...

I think the biggest WTF here is that even though you thought he was an
experienced network admin you told him what to type. Not only that but
you didn't tell him what he needed to actually type* :



[enter] means : press the enter key

ctrl- means press the ctrl key and while still pressing it press the key listed after the -

alt- means the same as above but with the left Alt key



ctrl-esc

alt-r

cmd[enter]

nslookup webservices.initech-global.com[enter]





If you *actually* believed him to be a network admin you should have said : "what does your DNS report as the IP address for webservices.initech-global.com?"

Then, when he said "how do I do that?" you would know the level of competence you were faced with.





A friend of mine who knows what I do will still say to me 'start ..
control panel ... networks' etc. because he's used to supporting lusers
!





* I'm doing that from memory, no Windows box to try it on.

What I like best about this is the "more usefull every day" quote in the tile bar ;)

This didn't happen, it's out of the question. I, will not, shall not, ever, believe this actually happened.

It just didn't.

I must not think about this think any more. It never happened, so why should I?

someidiot@machine:~> nslookup who-is-a-f-ing-idiot.com

Server:         192.168.0.1

Address:        192.168.0.1#53



** server can't find who-is-a-f-ing-idiot.com: NXDOMAIN

Anonymous:

This didn't happen, it's out of the question. I, will not, shall not, ever, believe this actually happened.

It just didn't.

I must not think about this think any more. It never happened, so why should I?

It did.



And in the immortal, dissembodied words of the AOL announcer...



WELCOME!



To the High-Tech America.  Check your brain at the door.



    -dZ.

"initech"



wasn't that the company in Office Space?

Hey now, I used to work with a lot of part-time teenagers on summer vacation, and they were never this dumb!

kengray:

"initech"

wasn't that the company in Office Space?

Yes, it's a joke, not the actual domain name.

kengray:

"initech"

wasn't that the company in Office Space?

 

alex inserts office space references to cover up company identities

 

tiro:

The problem is google would be too polite about it.  I think an
error message like "You meant to type that in a command shell. 
Perhaps you should consider not breeding." would be more
appropriate. 



And I can't wait to see what the WTF apologists come up with on this one. 

Hmmm...I wouldn't dare say that this is excusable, but I can see how it
might be more the management's fault than this particular network guy's
fault.



Where I work, I wouldn't find it at all hard to believe that some
newbie programmer could get promoted to Network Specialist Level II
just because the competent Network Specialist Level II left the
company; management decides that the newbie programmer is good at all
that "techy stuff" and so he would be a "perfect fit."  And since
they didn't have to "waste" HR resources finding a replacement, they
get to look good.  Everybody wins!



So this is still very unexcusable, but I assuming the possibility that
the network guy didn't send in a resume that said, essentially, "I am
the I AM of network administration.  I willl make your network
better than sex," but rather was appointed to a job for which he didn't have
the proper experience because the management was ignorant.  Either way,
though, I wouldn't want knowingly to do business with such a company.

clockwise:

MSN is clearly at fault here. Since Microsoft
wrote nslookup, why don't they just recognise the executable in the
search term, execute the program and return the results? Idiots.

It is highly unlikely that MS wrote nslookup.   More likely
they ported the version written by the University of California Berkley
at the same time they ported the rest of the BSD tcp/ip to NT. 



Linux is the only OS I know of that doesn't use the BSD code for
TCP/IP.   (Or at least the onlly one that has any popularity
at all)   It makes not sense for someone to write their own
when the BSD code is free and debugged.  

Anonymous:

It is highly unlikely that MS wrote nslookup.   More likely they ported the version written by the University of California Berkley at the same time they ported the rest of the BSD tcp/ip to NT. 

Sure enough.  This is the only copyright listed in the EXE:

Copyright (c) 1985,1989 Regents of the University of California.
 All rights reserved.

kengray:

"initech"

wasn't that the company in Office Space?

No.  It was OfficeTech.

 

Frickin' Hilareous - this made my day!

Linux is the only OS I know of that doesn't use the BSD code for TCP/IP. (Or at least the onlly one that has any popularity at all) It makes not sense for someone to write their own when the BSD code is free and debugged.

Makes you wonder why Linux developers rolled their own. (Answer: NIH)

Anonymous:

Makes you wonder why Linux developers rolled their own. (Answer: NIH)

No.  The short answer is that the BSD license is different from the GPL license.  Also, BSD sucks.