Comment On Checkmate

In the 90s, if a continent-spanning national government wanted to communicate via a bulletin board system, they needed to code it themselves. And if they were going to invent the wheel, what language was better suited to the task than Visual Basic 2.0? Slap a pithy name on it- Chessboard and voila- instant success. [expand full text]
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Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 07:20 • by ParkinT
Sounds like a case of "Fool's Mate"

{Sorry, it had to be said}

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 08:04 • by Fecal Matter Lip Fur (unregistered)
396865 in reply to 396863
ParkinT:
Sounds like a case of "Fool's Mate"

{Sorry, it had to be said}


But you didn't have to post it.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 08:17 • by Bring Back Nagesh (unregistered)
396866 in reply to 396865
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
ParkinT:
Sounds like a case of "Fool's Mate"
{Sorry, it had to be said}

But you didn't have to post it.

And you didn't have to post that either. You probably would have said the same thing if he'd posted 'frist'. Quit being a killjoy, you insensitive clod.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 08:24 • by moz (unregistered)
But then, the same was true for Remy.

It seems that, several years later, no-one had found a pressing need to increase security on the network. Maybe they did that the next time someone decided that the system was an appropriate place to slander colleagues.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 08:29 • by Fecal Matter Lip Fur (unregistered)
396868 in reply to 396866
Bring Back Nagesh:
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
ParkinT:
Sounds like a case of "Fool's Mate"
{Sorry, it had to be said}

But you didn't have to post it.

And you didn't have to post that either. You probably would have said the same thing if he'd posted 'frist'. Quit being a killjoy, you insensitive clod.


My post had the very specific and noble purpose of making someone feel like your posting, i.e. bad.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 08:30 • by QJo (unregistered)
" ... continent-spanning national government ..."

That narrows it down. Australia, probably. Or Canada. Or Russia. Can be argued that it's China, but I think they arrived somewhat later to the IT circus than the early 1990s.

Can't think of any other continent-spanning nations that have the technological know-how to set up such a bulletin-board.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 08:32 • by QJo (unregistered)
"...Daniel could do all of his support work in Notepad."

Sorry, but that is genuinely funny.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 08:35 • by Rodnas (unregistered)
That sounds just like a normal day at the office. You are doing great and all your work is going smoothly, until someone from the middle management walks in and asks you a question. Any answer you could give is wrong one. And the doom of overtime, rework and angry management is upon you.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 08:35 • by Bring Back Nagesh (unregistered)
396872 in reply to 396868
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
Bring Back Nagesh:
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
ParkinT:
Sounds like a case of "Fool's Mate"
{Sorry, it had to be said}

But you didn't have to post it.

And you didn't have to post that either. You probably would have said the same thing if he'd posted 'frist'. Quit being a killjoy, you insensitive clod.

My post had the very specific and noble purpose of making someone feel like your posting, i.e. bad.

Wow! That was the purpose of my posting too! Maybe we can be friends!

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 08:39 • by Fecal Matter Lip Fur (unregistered)
396873 in reply to 396872
Bring Back Nagesh:
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
Bring Back Nagesh:
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
ParkinT:
Sounds like a case of "Fool's Mate"
{Sorry, it had to be said}

But you didn't have to post it.

And you didn't have to post that either. You probably would have said the same thing if he'd posted 'frist'. Quit being a killjoy, you insensitive clod.

My post had the very specific and noble purpose of making someone feel like your posting, i.e. bad.

Wow! That was the purpose of my posting too! Maybe we can be friends!

Maybe... maybe we already are!

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 08:47 • by $$ERR:get_name_fail (unregistered)
and the institution of government IT only knew one approach to dealing with unauthorized software: complete and utter panic. Crack teams of auditors went from office to office, looking for anything that didn’t belong on the government computer systems.


As someone who works in government IT, I can report that this modus operandi hasn't changed at all in the past 15 years.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 08:52 • by Herwig (unregistered)
396875 in reply to 396874
$$ERR:get_name_fail:
and the institution of government IT only knew one approach to dealing with unauthorized software: complete and utter panic. Crack teams of auditors went from office to office, looking for anything that didn’t belong on the government computer systems.


As someone who works in government IT, I can report that this modus operandi hasn't changed at all in the past 15 years.

As someone who DOES NOT work in government IT, I can report this hasn't changed at all.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 09:01 • by spamcourt
He was reprimanded for running an unauthorised server to chat with his workmates. Nowadays they would have reprimanded him for not having Facebook and Twitter accounts (linked to their internal social network), then hired another community manager to, huh, manage more communities. He costs twice as much as a programer, but it's worth it, he's an expert on people after all.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 09:08 • by David (unregistered)
I must have the wrong website. I thought this was the Daily WTF, not the Daily everything is operating normally.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 09:15 • by Bring Back Nagesh (unregistered)
396878 in reply to 396873
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
Bring Back Nagesh:
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
Bring Back Nagesh:
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
ParkinT:
Sounds like a case of "Fool's Mate"
{Sorry, it had to be said}

But you didn't have to post it.

And you didn't have to post that either. You probably would have said the same thing if he'd posted 'frist'. Quit being a killjoy, you insensitive clod.

My post had the very specific and noble purpose of making someone feel like your posting, i.e. bad.

Wow! That was the purpose of my posting too! Maybe we can be friends!

Maybe... maybe we already are!

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 09:18 • by Warren (unregistered)
This middle-manager did what middle-managers did when they wanted access to an IT resource: she called the helpdesk and asked for access.

I call shenanigans. My manager asks me to sort everything out and is most upset if I say, "Call the helpdesk." Given the competence of the helpdesk, I'm not surprised.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 09:29 • by Cbuttius
And they gave Daniel a knighthood?

And it all happened in black and white.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 09:32 • by Retard (unregistered)
396881 in reply to 396866
Bring Back Nagesh:
Quit being a killjoy, you insensitive clod.
Please try to show some sensitivity. My son was a killjoy, and let me tell you, it was no laughing matter.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 09:37 • by Oscar (unregistered)
396882 in reply to 396871
Rodnas:
That sounds just like a normal day at the office. You are doing great and all your work is going smoothly, until someone from the middle management walks in and asks you a question. Any answer you could give is wrong one.
Even this?

"But that would mean we would have to recursively decrement the contents of the display register without overwriting the terminal null character creating the potential for a buffer overflow, which would otherwise be inherent in a hexidecimal stack-based architecture!"

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 10:11 • by some pony (unregistered)
396883 in reply to 396882
One cannot just recursively decrement! These registers do vary by devices within the family of devices so special attention needs to be paid to which devices use which registers and register fields.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 10:27 • by Bored (unregistered)
Feh, that one can be brushed off with a simple "We were giving it an extended Beta test complete with multi-user load testing before releasing it to the general community."

What's with the brony art?

2012-12-11 10:37 • by No Bronies! (unregistered)
Alright, why is this page littered with "Click here" Brony art?

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 10:44 • by geocities
396889 in reply to 396869
QJo:
" ... continent-spanning national government ..."

That narrows it down. Australia, probably. Or Canada. Or Russia. Can be argued that it's China, but I think they arrived somewhat later to the IT circus than the early 1990s.

Can't think of any other continent-spanning nations that have the technological know-how to set up such a bulletin-board.


Or Britain or France, or any other country that has some remote former colony areas still under their jurisdiction.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 10:53 • by Mr Minitel (unregistered)
396890 in reply to 396889
geocities:
QJo:
" ... continent-spanning national government ..."

That narrows it down. Australia, probably. Or Canada. Or Russia. Can be argued that it's China, but I think they arrived somewhat later to the IT circus than the early 1990s.

Can't think of any other continent-spanning nations that have the technological know-how to set up such a bulletin-board.


Or Britain or France, or any other country that has some remote former colony areas still under their jurisdiction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel

Re: What's with the brony art?

2012-12-11 11:40 • by You must be new here (unregistered)
396897 in reply to 396887
You must be new here

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 12:15 • by Herr Otto Flick (unregistered)
396899 in reply to 396873
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
Bring Back Nagesh:
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
Bring Back Nagesh:
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
ParkinT:
Sounds like a case of "Fool's Mate"
{Sorry, it had to be said}

But you didn't have to post it.

And you didn't have to post that either. You probably would have said the same thing if he'd posted 'frist'. Quit being a killjoy, you insensitive clod.

My post had the very specific and noble purpose of making someone feel like your posting, i.e. bad.

Wow! That was the purpose of my posting too! Maybe we can be friends!

Maybe... maybe we already are!


I'm fairly sure you are the same person, with two unregistered 'accounts'.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 12:53 • by mag (unregistered)
king me

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 13:08 • by n_slash_a (unregistered)
396902 in reply to 396875
Herwig:
$$ERR:get_name_fail:
and the institution of government IT only knew one approach to dealing with unauthorized software: complete and utter panic. Crack teams of auditors went from office to office, looking for anything that didn’t belong on the government computer systems.

As someone who works in government IT, I can report that this modus operandi hasn't changed at all in the past 15 years.

As someone who DOES NOT work in government IT, I can report this hasn't changed at all.

Indeed, the correct approach would have been to call IT in the first place, and ask for permission to put a "development test server" on the network. Also, that you need admin rights because "mission critical" tools require admin rights to run. Then never mention it again.

Re: What's with the brony art?

2012-12-11 13:43 • by Sage (unregistered)
396904 in reply to 396887
No Bronies!:
Alright, why is this page littered with "Click here" Brony art?


you must be new here

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 13:48 • by Zylon
"Daniel was the pawn tasked with protecting this particular king."

And at this precise moment, I knew I was in for the most excruciatingly insufferable WTF Remy has ever inflicted upon us.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 14:12 • by da Doctah
396907 in reply to 396869
QJo:
" ... continent-spanning national government ..."

That narrows it down. Australia, probably. Or Canada. Or Russia. Can be argued that it's China, but I think they arrived somewhat later to the IT circus than the early 1990s.

Can't think of any other continent-spanning nations that have the technological know-how to set up such a bulletin-board.


He said the 90s, not the 1990s. I'm guessing Atlantis.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 15:06 • by Tasty (unregistered)
396909 in reply to 396869
QJo:
" ... continent-spanning national government ..."

That narrows it down. Australia, probably. Or Canada. Or Russia. Can be argued that it's China, but I think they arrived somewhat later to the IT circus than the early 1990s.

Can't think of any other continent-spanning nations that have the technological know-how to set up such a bulletin-board.


It must be Australia. Canada has Alaska on its western border. Russia has Europe on one side and Japan on the other.

The USA would qualify by your west to east rule, but there's no Prime Minister.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 15:30 • by Harrow (unregistered)
396910 in reply to 396872
Bring Back Nagesh:
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
Bring Back Nagesh:
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
ParkinT:
Sounds like a case of "Fool's Mate"
{Sorry, it had to be said}

But you didn't have to post it.

And you didn't have to post that either. You probably would have said the same thing if he'd posted 'frist'. Quit being a killjoy, you insensitive clod.

My post had the very specific and noble purpose of making someone feel like your posting, i.e. bad.

Wow! That was the purpose of my posting too! Maybe we can be friends!
Maybe we can find some other posters with the same purpose and form a club! With passwords and a secret handshake. We can hold meetings, and have bake sales, and make posters. Then we can hunt down posters who try to make people feel good, and lynch them.

-Harrow.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 15:52 • by erat (unregistered)
Knight jumps queen! Bishop jumps queen! Pawns jump queen!

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 15:55 • by Zylon
396916 in reply to 396915
erat:
Knight jumps queen! Bishop jumps queen! Pawns jump queen!

Knight drives car! Bishop dissects xeno! Queen will rock you!

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 16:15 • by Gunslinger (unregistered)
396917 in reply to 396882
Oscar:
Rodnas:
That sounds just like a normal day at the office. You are doing great and all your work is going smoothly, until someone from the middle management walks in and asks you a question. Any answer you could give is wrong one.
Even this?

"But that would mean we would have to recursively decrement the contents of the display register without overwriting the terminal null character creating the potential for a buffer overflow, which would otherwise be inherent in a hexidecimal stack-based architecture!"


Yes, that answer is self-evidently wrong on its face.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 16:17 • by BC_Programmer
"Developed before anyone installed a Jet Engine into Visual Basic"

True, but one wonders why they didn't use ODBC, which was available since shortly after Visual Basic 1.0's release, and integrated into the VB2 feature-set...

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 16:33 • by PiisAWheeL
396919 in reply to 396901
mag:
king me
Check.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 17:22 • by Matt Westwood
396920 in reply to 396889
geocities:
QJo:
" ... continent-spanning national government ..."

That narrows it down. Australia, probably. Or Canada. Or Russia. Can be argued that it's China, but I think they arrived somewhat later to the IT circus than the early 1990s.

Can't think of any other continent-spanning nations that have the technological know-how to set up such a bulletin-board.


Or Britain or France, or any other country that has some remote former colony areas still under their jurisdiction.


Yeah but then that would be world-spanning not just mere continent-spanning, smartarse ...

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 17:29 • by Matt Westwood
396921 in reply to 396909
Tasty:
QJo:
" ... continent-spanning national government ..."

That narrows it down. Australia, probably. Or Canada. Or Russia. Can be argued that it's China, but I think they arrived somewhat later to the IT circus than the early 1990s.

Can't think of any other continent-spanning nations that have the technological know-how to set up such a bulletin-board.


It must be Australia. Canada has Alaska on its western border. Russia has Europe on one side and Japan on the other.

The USA would qualify by your west to east rule, but there's no Prime Minister.


Canada has a coastline on both the east and west coasts of the continent, which is continent-spanning in my book ... But I take your point, the quibble over Alaska could be a hair-splitter.

At a push you could include Chile, as at its southernmost tip it does spill over onto the west coast of South America.

Can't be Australia because the west coast of Australasia is in fact New Zealand.

Russia spans the entire breadth of Asia and into Europe, and goes far further west than Japan. So Russia is my best guess.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 17:35 • by someone (unregistered)
396922 in reply to 396909
Check a map, look for British Columbia, we have lots of west coast.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 17:39 • by Too Anonymous (unregistered)
So, was there a real problem here? Or just one of those "this is bad, but wouldn't have happened if you bought our advertised buildsystem software" stories?

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 19:52 • by Kooshy (unregistered)
396924 in reply to 396877
The Daily SNAFU?

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 20:19 • by Jimshatt (unregistered)
396925 in reply to 396921
I agree. And "Chessboard" makes the most sense, as a name, in Russia as well.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 20:53 • by mabinogi (unregistered)
396926 in reply to 396921
Matt Westwood:

Can't be Australia because the west coast of Australasia is in fact New Zealand.


New Zealand is _east_ of Australia, and it's actually on its own (mostly submerged) continent, Zealandia. Australiasia isn't a continent, just a colloquial term for Australia and New Zealand.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-11 22:20 • by I forget (unregistered)
396930 in reply to 396926
Damn Apple Maps......

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-12 01:30 • by bladesong (unregistered)
396932 in reply to 396921
Matt Westwood:

Can't be Australia because the west coast of Australasia is in fact New Zealand.


You are American aren't you....

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-12 02:15 • by xmkh (unregistered)
396933 in reply to 396916
Niiice...

Kudos for managing to reference an 80's TV/Sci-Fi series, one of the best Sci-Fi/Horror Sequels and the greatest Rock band in one sequence.

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-12 02:17 • by xmkh (unregistered)
396934 in reply to 396916
My comment post above was of course in response to Zylon.

Zylon:
erat:
Knight jumps queen! Bishop jumps queen! Pawns jump queen!

Knight drives car! Bishop dissects xeno! Queen will rock you!

Re: Checkmate

2012-12-12 04:13 • by Poo 'Stache (unregistered)
396936 in reply to 396899
Herr Otto Flick:
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
Bring Back Nagesh:
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
Bring Back Nagesh:
Fecal Matter Lip Fur:
ParkinT:
Sounds like a case of "Fool's Mate"
{Sorry, it had to be said}

But you didn't have to post it.

And you didn't have to post that either. You probably would have said the same thing if he'd posted 'frist'. Quit being a killjoy, you insensitive clod.

My post had the very specific and noble purpose of making someone feel like your posting, i.e. bad.

Wow! That was the purpose of my posting too! Maybe we can be friends!

Maybe... maybe we already are!


I'm fairly sure you are the same person, with two unregistered 'accounts'.


No, you are the persons.
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