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Before popup blocking was a common browser feature, I developed a high level of skill manually blocking popups. I could zoom the mouse over a window and close it almost immediately after it appeared. This became second nature, and after getting used to it, I became incapable of not closing popups. Similarly, I subconsciously check "Do not show this message again" boxes and uncheck "show this message next time [x] starts" any time I see it. If this is what I'm missing out on, I'll deal with it. [expand full text]
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Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:02 • by Andy (unregistered)
Nice tip.

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:02 • by Monkios
131880 in reply to 131879
I guess it happens...

Don't see much of a WTF here.

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:11 • by akatherder
They actually checked for FileNotFound and won!

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:14 • by Will Perdikakis (unregistered)
You are posting on WTF, Cancel or Allow?

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:14 • by mdk
I've seen this like...a hundred times?

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:16 • by MX5Ringer
Nice little chuckle rather than WTF,
But hey it's Friday and soon I'll be in the pub.
I'm sure I'v seen this tip message before but can't remember where.

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:17 • by Saladin
131888 in reply to 131886
mdk:
I've seen this like...a hundred times?

Use better software, I guess?

If there's no tips file, at the very least it should just hide the dialog altogether.

But I do like the wording..."Did you know that the tips file does not exist?" :)

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:18 • by Zylon
That's actually some really nice fault-tolerant design there.

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:19 • by snoofle
131891 in reply to 131885
Today is Friday the 13th - a day of suspicion, doom and strange and vile happenings, and the best you could come up with is that someone wrote code that checked for an error condition and displayed a succinct, accurate and detailed (if useless) message indicating to the user what is wrong?

Hmmm... maybe if the dialog asked "Do you want to play a game?" and then offered a list?

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:26 • by AbbydonKrafts
131893 in reply to 131890
Zylon:
That's actually some really nice fault-tolerant design there.


Agreed. I don't see the WTF in it.

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:37 • by Ozz (unregistered)
131897 in reply to 131893
AbbydonKrafts:
Zylon:
That's actually some really nice fault-tolerant design there.


Agreed. I don't see the WTF in it.


Agreed. At least it grayed out the "Next Tip" button...
CAPTCHA: craaazy - like the day I'm having...

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:39 • by Dark Shikari (unregistered)
That's not a WTF at all, that's very good design. They expected the error as possible and built the program to handle it gracefully.

I think I've seen that error before... isn't it the
GIMP?

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:40 • by guy (unregistered)
131900 in reply to 131888
Saladin:
mdk:
I've seen this like...a hundred times?

Use better software, I guess?

If there's no tips file, at the very least it should just hide the dialog altogether.

But I do like the wording..."Did you know that the tips file does not exist?" :)


If they hid the dialog then the user does not know why. This is the best way they could have designed it in my opinion.

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:45 • by Vischar
This may not be a "true" wtf, but getting a "tip" that the tip file isn't there itself is mildly amusing...

Could we possibly be running out of true wtfs? =0

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:51 • by SHv2 (unregistered)
perhaps this one is more of a "WTF, error checking actually works?"

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:52 • by Joshua (unregistered)
131906 in reply to 131891
snoofle:
Hmmm... maybe if the dialog asked "Do you want to play a game?" and then offered a list?


Would you like to play a game of chess?

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 11:58 • by Richard (unregistered)
I also recognise that dialog. I believe it's taken from a popular tip-of-the-day sample from MFC. Perhaps this one:

http://www.codeguru.com/Cpp/W-D/dislog/tipoftheday/article.php/c1957/

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 12:02 • by MrBester
131910 in reply to 131891
snoofle:
Hmmm... maybe if the dialog asked "Do you want to play a game?" and then offered a list?

1. Tic-tac-toe
2. Global Thermonuclear War
3. Minesweeper
4. Microsoft Hearts

(WarGames 95 to current)

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 12:04 • by fo0bar (unregistered)
131911 in reply to 131899
I think I've seen that error before... isn't it the
GIMP?

That's just a GTK dialog, probably not The GIMP specifically (though GTK was invented for The GIMP originally).

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 12:22 • by hapes (unregistered)
SHALL we play a game?

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 12:24 • by Whitey (unregistered)
Off topic, but this site deserves to see this. Saw it on digg a few minutes ago.


http://flickr.com/photos/jeffcarlson/127632129/

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 12:30 • by mav (unregistered)
131915 in reply to 131914
Haha, wtf. Thats a good one, I like it...

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 12:33 • by AnthonyG
Hm... Perhaps this is Deja Vu but I could have sworn I've seen this from an article a while back...

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 12:53 • by FlyboyFred (unregistered)
131919 in reply to 131891
snoofle:
Today is Friday the 13th - a day of suspicion, doom and strange and vile happenings, and the best you could come up with is that someone wrote code that checked for an error condition and displayed a succinct, accurate and detailed (if useless) message indicating to the user what is wrong?

Hmmm... maybe if the dialog asked "Do you want to play a game?" and then offered a list?


It's bad luck to be superstitious.

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 12:58 • by cparker
Good design a WTF does not make.

Lately, the Real WTF™ has been this site's submissions.

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 13:09 • by Anonymous Coward (unregistered)
Try hitting the ESC key when these popup boxes gain focus, it will close them without mouse movement.

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 13:11 • by snoofle (unregistered)
131928 in reply to 131914
Whitey:
Off topic, but this site deserves to see this. Saw it on digg a few minutes ago.


http://flickr.com/photos/jeffcarlson/127632129/
See today's sidebar

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 13:25 • by jeremy (unregistered)
131931 in reply to 131887
It's from Lotus Notes. I get it everyday..

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 14:04 • by AdamG (unregistered)
The window borders are from a Gnome desktop... pretty cool, actually, first time I've seen a desktop Linux WTF on here :)

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 14:13 • by anne (unregistered)
Why y'all hatin'? I don't "LOL" much, but this one made me LOL.

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 14:21 • by James (unregistered)
131939 in reply to 131937
Folks: This is Error'd. Funny popups; amusing mistakes. It doesn't have to be a WTF to show up here.

That is all.

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 14:56 • by joe mama (unregistered)
laaaaammmmeeeeeee

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 14:57 • by Southern (unregistered)
In fact, I didn't know that the Tips file didn't exist in the application directory. It's always nice to learn something new :)

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 15:39 • by AGould
131950 in reply to 131885
Will Perdikakis:
You are posting on WTF, Cancel or Allow?


I've always thought that wouldn't be a bad feature (mainly for the "cancel" ability):

"A co-worker is going to ramble for five minutes, cancel or allow?"
"Cancel."

Would make my day more enjoyable...

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 15:46 • by Some Random Pop-up Potpourri Fan (unregistered)
131951 in reply to 131917
AnthonyG:
Hm... Perhaps this is Deja Vu but I could have sworn I've seen this from an article a while back...


If you're a longtime reader of this site, you may have.

http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Pop-up_Potpourri_0x3a__Announced_By_God.aspx

Sixth one from the top.

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 16:50 • by SomeCoder (unregistered)
131958 in reply to 131951
Some Random Pop-up Potpourri Fan:
AnthonyG:
Hm... Perhaps this is Deja Vu but I could have sworn I've seen this from an article a while back...


If you're a longtime reader of this site, you may have.

http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Pop-up_Potpourri_0x3a__Announced_By_God.aspx

Sixth one from the top.



I kind of wish you hadn't posted that. Popup Potpourri was WAY better than Error'd and that link just proves it. That depresses me a little :(

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-13 21:47 • by Jivlain
This was basically default behaviour for the Tips dialog in VB6, as I recall.

Yes, yes, I know. The real WTF (TM) is that I still remember the default behaviour for obscure VB6 features.

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-15 07:29 • by Ananimuss Koward (unregistered)
132012 in reply to 131879
Well; did ya ?

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-15 07:31 • by Brill Gates (unregistered)
132013 in reply to 131977
Yes, yes, I know. The real WTF (TM) is that I still remember the default behaviour for obscure VB6 features.[/quote]

Oh, how I loved VB6 - as quick as it could be dirty

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-16 05:32 • by blah (unregistered)
132035 in reply to 131900
"the best way they could have designed it" ?

OK, this is the real WTF : it's perfectly standard practice to nag the user with useless popup saying a barely useful feature doesn't work and that he's probably unable to solve it ?

The message could have been "the tip file doesn't exist, do you want to... like... write it yourself, maybe ?"

If you really want to handle this error gracefully, either bury it in a log file that will show only to interested users or people trying to troubleshoot the application, or show a real error message saying something useful, like "try to reinstall the application", or "don't worry, a lazy programmer didn't do his documentation job", or "you can download a free tip file at http://www.tipfilr.com"

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-16 06:02 • by Kuba (unregistered)
132039 in reply to 131899
Dark Shikari:
That's not a WTF at all, that's very good design. They expected the error as possible and built the program to handle it gracefully.

I think I've seen that error before... isn't it the
GIMP?


Pardon stating the obvious, but the code for a well designed "TIP" window should just not display itself if it cannot find the tip file. Maybe it should pop up an error message box once or somesuch, but putting the error where a tip would go is just braindead from human factors perspective.

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-16 07:24 • by T$ (unregistered)
Kuba:

Pardon stating the obvious, but the code for a well designed "TIP" window should just not display itself if it cannot find the tip file. Maybe it should pop up an error message box once or somesuch, but putting the error where a tip would go is just braindead from human factors perspective.


I'm not entirely sure how I feel about this one. On the one hand, it's not a major feature of the system. Therefore maybe it would be better if it didn't show at all. And then I think about the other side: The IT person who installed this software on someone's PC will want to know if all the features aren't working as they planned. There's always the possibility some tip (which could be considered part of documentation) would solve a problem that the user would otherwise have to call the helpdesk over. Instead they call over the lack of tip, ironic. I'd still say this is a superior solution: for a one day fee of annoying users calling over a faulty tip box, the helpdesk can ensure tips work for the foreseeable future for all their users.

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-17 06:37 • by Matt (unregistered)
Gotta agree, I miss Pop-Up Potpourri.

Re: Did You Know?...

2007-04-21 09:39 • by wtf (unregistered)
133078 in reply to 132035
blah:
"the best way they could have designed it" ?

OK, this is the real WTF : it's perfectly standard practice to nag the user with useless popup saying a barely useful feature doesn't work and that he's probably unable to solve it ?

The message could have been "the tip file doesn't exist, do you want to... like... write it yourself, maybe ?"

If you really want to handle this error gracefully, either bury it in a log file that will show only to interested users or people trying to troubleshoot the application, or show a real error message saying something useful, like "try to reinstall the application", or "don't worry, a lazy programmer didn't do his documentation job", or "you can download a free tip file at http://www.tipfilr.com"


Kuba:
Pardon stating the obvious, but the code for a well designed "TIP" window should just not display itself if it cannot find the tip file. Maybe it should pop up an error message box once or somesuch, but putting the error where a tip would go is just braindead from human factors perspective.


you two are absolute idiots for not appreciating the artistic genius of this solution. the user is alerted of the problem as gracefully as possible and can uncheck the 'show tips' any time he wants to, so it is indeed only shown once if the user so desires... how can you call this "nagging"?

Re: Did You Know?...

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