Comment On Effective Immediately

Every job has its quirks. That’s what Kirk reassuringly told himself on his first day of work after meeting the company’s most egregious quirk, The Colonel. Kirk wasn’t quite sure if the impeccably-dressed man’s gruff introduction – which solely consisted of looking Kirk up, then down, then up again, and scoffing “that’s a pretty sad excuse for a Double Windsor” – was in jest or contempt, so he stuck with a the more palatable label of quirky. Fortunately, by the time Kirk realized that deranged was much more appropriate than quirky, he knew that he’d never have to personally work with The Colonel: the chain-of-command simply wouldn’t allow for it. [expand full text]
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Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 11:08 • by Some Wonk (unregistered)
Yet to release their product? Do they work from Guantanamo Bay?

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 11:12 • by ObiWayneKenobi
And this is why idiots who don't know shit about software should be prevented from EVER being able to start a software company.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 11:20 • by Mark (unregistered)
I had an ex-football player for a boss once. In a meeting to our clients, he told them to basically `suck it up` and `quit whining about our buggy software products` until we fix them. My jaw dropped. This was property tax appraisal software, by the way.

Office meetings were like that too. He was fired by upper management a couple years after I left.

Realtime?

2008-10-29 11:25 • by Valacosa
Wait, did I read this story correctly? Did the Colonel have two developers hand-convert numbers for a realtime GPS tracking system?

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 11:32 • by snoofle
Alex:
four years later, they have yet to release their product.

So how did this place stay in business all this time? Who, in their right mind, would put up with that kind of abuse (at least outside the military)?

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 11:35 • by GCU Arbitrary
Mark34625:
I think we should construct a film about his postings on this site.

My suggestion:

"The lord of trolls : The return of TopCod3r"

Meh, fark.com does it better; compared to their trolls, he rates maybe a 2, 2.5 tops.

From this site, though, SpectateSwamp gets my personal vote as Lord of the Trolls. His brand of crazy is in a league all of its own.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 11:39 • by Teh Irish Gril Riot (unregistered)
225540 in reply to 225523
ObiWayneKenobi:
And this is why idiots who don't know shit about software should be prevented from EVER being able to start a software company.


But... where would we work?

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 11:40 • by memals (unregistered)
what were the "large personal items" and what happened if they got hot ?
mmmmm, large personal chocolate bars, 50kg variety

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 11:40 • by rudraigh
225542 in reply to 225523
ObiWayneKenobi:
And this is why idiots who don't know shit about software should be prevented from EVER being able to start a software company.


Has nothing to do with software or software companies. A lousy boss is a lousy boss.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 11:42 • by wonkoTheSane
What were the "large items"

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 11:43 • by Sofa King (unregistered)
225544 in reply to 225543
corpses

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 11:46 • by TopCod3r
Look everyone, I tried to give it a try again, but Alex has decided to delete my comments. As I have said before, I always try my best not to be disrespectful to anyone in my comments, only to bring a little bit of humor to the world of IT, but I suppose there is no sense of humor left in this profession, except for saying OMGWTFLOL at other people's code. And quite honestly after a while all of the WTFs on this site (and the stories along with them) are all the same in essence, and the comments are usually the same banter back and forth. But I guess that is what Alex wants, and it is his site he can do whatever he wants.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 11:48 • by Jeff (unregistered)
ATTN Commentors:

You are reading during the hours of 00:00:01 and 23:58:59. This is unacceptable in a corporate environment and must cease effective immediately.

Colonel doesn't know it yet, but I quit today. I'll spare you the rest of his rambling. He doesn't read his email, so he won't know I'm not telling you about the new policy in regards to acceptable lunches. Enjoy your 13.7 minutes of 'break' time tomorrow.

See you in the unemployment line.

DICTATED BUT NOT READ,
The Colonel

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 11:48 • by Waffle (unregistered)
225549 in reply to 225543
wonkoTheSane:
What were the "large items"


Urmoms

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 11:48 • by The Undroid (unregistered)
"top-of-the-line accommodations for executives"

In a less paranoid age persons wanting to get from Memorial Bridge to the Courthouse area of Arlington could run through Ft. Myer. The Army puts the occupant's name and rank on base housing, so I can tell you that the duplexes averaged about five stars, i.e. to rate a share of a duplex one had to be a couple grades above colonel.

Say what you will about the military, there is a dramatically smaller spread in compensation between the lowest pay grades and the highest than you will find in most American businesses of comparable size.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 11:53 • by DOA
The problem here is that Kirk has never been in the army. If he had, he'd avoid that company like the plague. I mean seriously, a maladjusted ex military officer? Who didn't see that coming?

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 11:55 • by Ben4jammin (unregistered)
Two thoughts:

I assume that "dictated but not read" means that he told his secretary what to email, but didn't actually read the copy that went out? If so, the secretary could have a LOT of fun with that.

Also, is this where the phrase "the beatings will continue until morale improves" comes from? Because it seems to make about as much sense.

Re: Realtime?

2008-10-29 11:59 • by Joseph (unregistered)
225554 in reply to 225535
Not the on the fly data. They had fixed the issue with the transmission, but needed to hand convert all of the malformed data that was sent before the fix was implemented.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 12:00 • by Joe the Programmer (unregistered)
To ensure that programmers were focused on programming, The Colonel cut out a lot of the unnecessary parts of the software development process like system design and testing. While the quit-wasting-time-and-type-in-your-computer-code approach certainly helped get more code written, there were a few side effects.


Scary thing is that I've met *developers* who think like this too...

ObCaptcha: "usitas". Wasn't he the old Baltimore Colts QB?

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 12:06 • by OhDear (unregistered)
Nearly every company I have seen has always let their focus drift away from shipping working software. Ranging from more and more non-development staff, ISO 9000, or just piling on the features at a rate far faster than the developers can keep up with. It is almost as if they don't want to succeed.

Capcha "aptent" The description of the smell of someone who doesn't know they smell. as in "He got a whiff of the aptent smell."

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 12:20 • by Douglas (unregistered)
If Kirk had been in the military, he would have realized that fragging is an important part of the 360 review process.

Sounds like the Colonel had been in WWI:
(1) Put soldiers in trench;
(2) Order them over the top;
(3) Watch them die in great numbers;
(4) Need more soldiers;
(5) Repeat.

A perfectly acceptable program.

Anyway, from my understanding of today's military, one can become a Major through the inertia of stupidity, but to become a Colonel, one needs to be able to put together a PowerPoint presentation and bore the enemy (Congress) to death.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 12:20 • by Alan (unregistered)
225566 in reply to 225546
TopCod3r:
Look everyone, I tried to give it a try again, but Alex has decided to delete my comments. As I have said before, I always try my best not to be disrespectful to anyone in my comments, only to bring a little bit of humor to the world of IT, but I suppose there is no sense of humor left in this profession, except for saying OMGWTFLOL at other people's code. And quite honestly after a while all of the WTFs on this site (and the stories along with them) are all the same in essence, and the comments are usually the same banter back and forth. But I guess that is what Alex wants, and it is his site he can do whatever he wants.


Frankly - I love your stuff - alex should kill two birds with one stone and have you write MFD.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 12:21 • by jgayhart
225568 in reply to 225548
Jeff:
You are reading during the hours of 00:00:01 and 23:58:59. This is unacceptable in a corporate environment and must cease effective immediately.


Good thing I have free time from 23:59:00 through 00:00:00.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 12:25 • by Glow-in-the-dark (unregistered)
You know, I would have LOVED to join that company for a couple of weeks (obviously with no intention of staying), just to get this guy beyond the point of no return for cardiac arrest.

This type should never be in charge of anything involving people, regardless of what it is. No leadership ability whatsoever.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 12:25 • by A Nonny Mouse
225570 in reply to 225546
TopCod3r:
Look everyone, I tried to give it a try again, but Alex has decided to delete my comments. As I have said before, I always try my best not to be disrespectful to anyone in my comments, only to bring a little bit of humor to the world of IT, but I suppose there is no sense of humor left in this profession, except for saying OMGWTFLOL at other people's code. And quite honestly after a while all of the WTFs on this site (and the stories along with them) are all the same in essence, and the comments are usually the same banter back and forth. But I guess that is what Alex wants, and it is his site he can do whatever he wants.

pity. i rather enjoyed the outraged responses you got :)

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 12:27 • by jasites (unregistered)
225571 in reply to 225555
Joe the Programmer:
ObCaptcha: "usitas". Wasn't he the old Baltimore Colts QB?


that was Unitas, close, but not quite.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 12:27 • by themagni
225572 in reply to 225566
Alan:
TopCod3r:
Look everyone, I tried to give it a try again, but Alex has decided to delete my comments. As I have said before, I always try my best not to be disrespectful to anyone in my comments, only to bring a little bit of humor to the world of IT, but I suppose there is no sense of humor left in this profession, except for saying OMGWTFLOL at other people's code. And quite honestly after a while all of the WTFs on this site (and the stories along with them) are all the same in essence, and the comments are usually the same banter back and forth. But I guess that is what Alex wants, and it is his site he can do whatever he wants.


Frankly - I love your stuff - alex should kill two birds with one stone and have you write MFD.


Awesome. I like his posts because he says the wrong thing in such a believable way - a good insight into exactly what the problem with a lot of code featured here is caused by.

Yeah, he's no PocketNinja, but he's entertaining and gets good responses from his posts.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 12:29 • by BobB
Smells like OneSAF...

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 12:34 • by operagost
225575 in reply to 225538
GCU Arbitrary:
Mark34625:
I think we should construct a film about his postings on this site.

My suggestion:

"The lord of trolls : The return of TopCod3r"

Meh, fark.com does it better; compared to their trolls, he rates maybe a 2, 2.5 tops.

From this site, though, SpectateSwamp gets my personal vote as Lord of the Trolls. His brand of crazy is in a league all of its own.

Anyone who gets his nickname from the default password on an AOL free trial CD-ROM cannot be reasoned with.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 12:43 • by DoctorFriday
225578 in reply to 225528
Mark:
This was property tax appraisal software, by the way.



HA! I used to work on the client end of a property tax appraisal sofware company in a previous work-life in the local gov't.

The consultants were actually pretty nice guys and reasonable to deal with, but their management was an absolute HOOT. Wonder if yours was the same company I worked with...hmmm...

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 12:46 • by Bombe
225579 in reply to 225568
jgayhart:
Jeff:
You are reading during the hours of 00:00:01 and 23:58:59. This is unacceptable in a corporate environment and must cease effective immediately.
Good thing I have free time from 23:59:00 through 00:00:00.
You are not allowed to split it up in 5 seconds, 5 seconds, etc.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 12:49 • by halcyon1234
225580 in reply to 225569
Glow-in-the-dark:
You know, I would have LOVED to join that company for a couple of weeks (obviously with no intention of staying), just to get this guy beyond the point of no return for cardiac arrest.

This type should never be in charge of anything involving people, regardless of what it is. No leadership ability whatsoever.


Now that's a great idea for a freelance firm if I've ever heard one. You hire out your services to the employees who need a boss like this gone. You get hired for two weeks, drive the dude over the edge, the ride off into the sunset after the men in the white jackets arrive.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 12:51 • by Code Dependent
225581 in reply to 225546
TopCod3r:
*snip*
I'm not sure that you are the original. I recall "Top Cod3r" (note the space) used to post all the time without being registered, and then somebody else registered the name, and then some other versions got registered, and for a few days there was some confusion over who was who.

I feel certain that the original "Top Cod3r" is still as prolific as ever. He's just using different unregistered names now.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 12:56 • by Matt A (unregistered)
225583 in reply to 225541
I immediately thought of my accoustic guitar. Leave one in a car on a really hot day, and you run the risk of the glue melting and the whole thing coming apart.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 13:03 • by lanmind
For pity's sake, please tell us the names of these ridiculous companies, so that the rest of us have the opportunity to properly ridicule them, as they should be!

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 13:04 • by C. F. Martin (unregistered)
225585 in reply to 225583
Matt A:
I immediately thought of my accoustic guitar. Leave one in a car on a really hot day, and you run the risk of the glue melting and the whole thing coming apart.


That's why guitars should be constructed using nails or screws

Captcha = iusto (iusto love her, but I had to kill her)

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 13:07 • by ReverendJ1
225586 in reply to 225572
I'll have to say TopCod3r's comments have been the best thing about a lot of the articles in recent months. Sometimes I'll just scan the comments for TopCod3r if I don't have time to read them all. Shame on you Alex.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 13:07 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
225587 in reply to 225546
TopCod3r:
<snip>

No disrespect to you but I have to agree with Alex's moderation. It is extremely frustrating to watch the comments section get ruined by flame bait on every single article. Repetition was your downfall - once in a while it's funny but you used to troll every single post here and now it seems you're paying the price for that. Maybe you should come back in a few months time with a different identity and a little bit of self restraint.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 13:07 • by lanmind
225588 in reply to 225552
No $hit...

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 13:15 • by Kirk (unregistered)
ATTN COLONEL

Effective immediately, I quit.

READ AND NOT DICTATED,
Kirk

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 13:17 • by JD (unregistered)
An MD straight out of the military would be all I needed to know that the job wasn't suitable. I hate to draw sweeping conclusions but from my experience, most high ranking military retirees are domineering narcissists who will never again fit in to normal society. They are broken beyond repair. Just my experience.

NB: I respect the moderation. Sorry TC.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 13:18 • by snoofle
225593 in reply to 225580
halcyon1234:
Glow-in-the-dark:
You know, I would have LOVED to join that company for a couple of weeks (obviously with no intention of staying), just to get this guy beyond the point of no return for cardiac arrest.

This type should never be in charge of anything involving people, regardless of what it is. No leadership ability whatsoever.


Now that's a great idea for a freelance firm if I've ever heard one. You hire out your services to the employees who need a boss like this gone. You get hired for two weeks, drive the dude over the edge, the ride off into the sunset after the men in the white jackets arrive.

Awesome idea... and it would be called ... ?

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 13:20 • by Niki (unregistered)
Someone should inform the colonel that there is no such thing as a "double windsor."

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 13:22 • by Mr B
225596 in reply to 225587
Anonymous:
TopCod3r:
<snip>

No disrespect to you but I have to agree with Alex's moderation. It is extremely frustrating to watch the comments section get ruined by flame bait on every single article. Repetition was your downfall - once in a while it's funny but you used to troll every single post here and now it seems you're paying the price for that. Maybe you should come back in a few months time with a different identity and a little bit of self restraint.


It's people like you, ie. anonymous no-sense-of-humour idiots which cause threads to be derailed far more than that other chap...see you've done it here now too!

Seems like he's not the only one who should learn a little restraint.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 13:25 • by SomeCoder (unregistered)
225597 in reply to 225587
Anonymous:
TopCod3r:
<snip>

No disrespect to you but I have to agree with Alex's moderation. It is extremely frustrating to watch the comments section get ruined by flame bait on every single article. Repetition was your downfall - once in a while it's funny but you used to troll every single post here and now it seems you're paying the price for that. Maybe you should come back in a few months time with a different identity and a little bit of self restraint.


I agree, TopCod3r's posts were good at first but because they repeated on in every thread, it got old fast. They also derailed the regular discussion too much.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 13:25 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
225598 in reply to 225596
Mr B:
It's people like you, ie. anonymous no-sense-of-humour idiots which cause threads to be derailed far more than that other chap...see you've done it here now too!

Seems like he's not the only one who should learn a little restraint.

You don't know me, friend.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 13:27 • by Charles400
Attn Colonel: Here is my finger, lick it good.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 13:28 • by Mike (unregistered)
225600 in reply to 225596
Mr B:
It's people like you, ie. anonymous no-sense-of-humour idiots which cause threads to be derailed far more than that other chap...see you've done it here now too!

Seems like he's not the only one who should learn a little restraint.

That is fucking bullshit, TopCod3r used fuck with every single post on this site. The unregistered anons have a shitload more useful input than TopCod3r. Fuck off you wannabee troll.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 13:29 • by Flatline
225601 in reply to 225595
Niki:
Someone should inform the colonel that there is no such thing as a "double windsor."


http://www.how-to-tie-a-neck-tie.com/double-windsor.htm

Many, many websites would disagree with you. I'm not quite sure why it has that name when it's clearly a full windsor but the Colonel can't really be wrong if it's a generally accepted term for the knot.

Re: Effective Immediately

2008-10-29 13:32 • by Bob (unregistered)
225602 in reply to 225572
themagni:
Alan:
TopCod3r:
Look everyone, I tried to give it a try again, but Alex has decided to delete my comments. As I have said before, I always try my best not to be disrespectful to anyone in my comments, only to bring a little bit of humor to the world of IT, but I suppose there is no sense of humor left in this profession, except for saying OMGWTFLOL at other people's code. And quite honestly after a while all of the WTFs on this site (and the stories along with them) are all the same in essence, and the comments are usually the same banter back and forth. But I guess that is what Alex wants, and it is his site he can do whatever he wants.


Frankly - I love your stuff - alex should kill two birds with one stone and have you write MFD.


Awesome. I like his posts because he says the wrong thing in such a believable way - a good insight into exactly what the problem with a lot of code featured here is caused by.

I, too, enjoy his insights into best practices.
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