Comment On Every Penny Counts

"I appreciate Telstra's effort," A.B. notes, "it's nice of them to help the customer in the global credit crunch." [expand full text]
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Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 10:48 • by Anon (unregistered)
247189 in reply to 247188
Anon:
avflinsch:
Anon:
So if an application was < 1 byte you can download it out of thin air?


Only if it was exactly zero bytes. If it were a negative number of bytes, you would need a connection to return them.



Actually, I guess I mistyped. I should have said <= 1 byte since the message only says > 1 byte. Obviously if it's zero bytes, it's not a problem.


BTW, if anybody want's my one byte app it's 157. There, I've saved you from having to download it.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 10:53 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
TRWTF: It can download less than one byte *without* being connected to a wireless network? I mean, that's only a few bits, but boy are they magical bits.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 11:13 • by Half-blind (unregistered)
I'm sorry, could you spell out the title, "Every Penis Cu..." what?

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 11:19 • by DROP DATABASE comments; (unregistered)
Note that you don't have to be logged in to agree.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 11:31 • by Democracy, dude (unregistered)
247204 in reply to 247200
DROP DATABASE comments;:
Note that you don't have to be logged in to agree.

Yeah, and to log in you have to register first, giving out your address, mobile and marital status. Then wait for a confirmation e-mail, and then complete a short 100-question survey.
If you wouldn't change your mind by that time – well, you can surely disagree then. At worst we'll find you.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 12:02 • by Share the pain (unregistered)
Looks like the 0.007% discount is all that poor telecoms can offer these hard times.
Don't they stick the "up to 0.007% off" labels there in Australia yet?

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 12:10 • by Duncan (unregistered)
247217 in reply to 247133
blub:
pjt33:
ais523:
I assume the nVidia one is attempting to specify a specific version of Windows (note the space before the dot), but somehow managed to fail.

My guess is that it's looking for C:\WINDOWS and failing because it's called WINNT or on a different drive.


My guess is that it's trying to detect if it's executed under a wine enviroment.


I've seen that before, was caused by some windows dlls being modified (stuff like alternative boot screen, etcs)

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 12:11 • by Charles400
Only $7 billion? Gee, for the cost of Obama's stimulus package, we can buy a fleet of 112 of starships.

Make it so!

Re: "Must be logged in to disagree"

2009-03-03 12:13 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
247220 in reply to 247178
Orbstart:
Anonymous:
Anonymous:
I disagree.

Captcha: the proof that I'm not logged in.

I should have done it like this:

Captcha:

The proof that I'm not logged in.


That's not proof, you could have photoshopped that image.

You're right of course, which is why I offered the live version.

Captcha:

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 12:13 • by Buddy (unregistered)
247221 in reply to 247189
Anon:
BTW, if anybody want's my one byte app it's 157. There, I've saved you from having to download it.


Is it freeware? If not, do you have a trial version? We're kind of strict here about running applications without appropriate licenses.

Re: "Must be logged in to disagree"

2009-03-03 12:41 • by Spectre
247227 in reply to 247170
Anonymous:

Captcha:



TRWTF is that CaptchaImage.aspx returns img/jpeg as the media type.

Re: "Must be logged in to disagree"

2009-03-03 13:09 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
247241 in reply to 247227
Spectre:
Anonymous:

Captcha:



TRWTF is that CaptchaImage.aspx returns img/jpeg as the media type.
So, that's why I get a "Download/Open/Save" dialog when I try to open it directly in a new tab. Also, FTFY:
Spectre:

TRWTF is CS, as always

Captcha:

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 13:34 • by Random832
247247 in reply to 247136
Captain Facts:
Captain Facts:
...you can still download zero-byte files using
touch
.

Wow. The real WTF here is that "BBCode" apparently changes 'code', an inline element, into a block-level one, probably 'pre'. Sigh. IT ARE SO MUCH EASIERS THAN PROGRAMMINGS IN TEH HTMLS.


Who says [code] is an inline element? You must be thinking of <code>. you got it wrong and you are blaming the software

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 13:55 • by Share the pain (unregistered)
Soumya Srivastava snapped these photos of the actual packaging for a Wall-E pencil sharpener.
...

Hey, is there an Autopilot-like sharpener as well?

If so, would be nice if its program was as blank as the packaging. Always wished to have my own tabula-rasa HAL at home! ^_^

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 14:04 • by Moogal (unregistered)
I got a strange sense of deja vu reading this, then realised that the Telstra one was mentioned on Radio 4's "The News Quiz" back at the beginning of the month.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 14:08 • by Deja vu? (unregistered)
247255 in reply to 247253
Moogal:
I got a strange sense of deja vu reading this, then realised that the Telstra one was mentioned on Radio 4's "The News Quiz" back at the beginning of the month.

Did they want $149.01 for that item before?
Prices falling non-stop.

Comment title

2009-03-03 14:14 • by Commenter name (unregistered)
The website in use is not TDWTF. This comment is designed to be posted only on TDWTF. Since it is over 1 bytes, you must be logged in to disagree. On the plus side, the price has been slashed from $7,000,000,000 to $6,999,999,999.99.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 14:15 • by AC (unregistered)
TRWTF here is selling crap based on the movie Wall-E. Didn't they watch the movie first!?

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 14:36 • by iPod Touch (unregistered)
Regarding the 1 byte, the same message template appears for the iPhone, as it does not allow app downloads larger than X (like 10 meg or something) to be performed over EDGE or 3G. (A requirement of the carrier I assume, the real WTF since we are paying for an 'unlimited' data connection.) Since the iPod doesn't have an EDGE or 3G connection, it always must be connected to WIFI to download. (Though of course this would be > 0 bytes.) So they were lazy and rather than making another message just for the iPod, they set it to 1B instead of 10MB.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 15:01 • by n (unregistered)
247273 in reply to 247261
AC:
TRWTF here is selling crap based on the movie Wall-E. Didn't they watch the movie first!?

I am sure they did, but you know, its just an animated fiction movie, that could never happen on Earth.

Err, are you saying that the dump that they called Earth in the movie is the one that we are on now...

:)

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 15:14 • by shakir (unregistered)
247277 in reply to 247130
I dunno but you could programme it faster than typing in a phone number

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 15:14 • by n (unregistered)
247278 in reply to 247139
Vollhorst:
Jesper:
The real WTF with signs like the first one is that apparently the sales people who print out and put up those signs in their shops don't even look at the sign themselves before putting them up in their shop!
If it would be my job to put up those faulty signs I would give a damn about what is on them. Most likely I would commit suicide anyway but why the fuck should I care about those signs? You don't get paid to think on that job, do you?

No you don't get paid to think, especially when you are the monkey that gets to put the signage out. Thinking causes problems for the managers.

As a former signage monkey, I would usually check the signs as I put them up, but when you have hundreds to put up and only 1-2 hours to do it in you don't really care that much. As long as the sign is not blatantly wrong you put it up anyway. Usually someone else will come along with a scanner looking for missing signs and fix that one as well, but this assumes that who ever follows is paying attention and has the time to fix such a minor issue.

If fact your lucky that the sign is in the correct spot at all.

As an aside, Wal-mart is a perfect example of this, their prices go up and down but because they never have a "sale" deceptive marketing laws do not apply. So they say this is the price now and this is what it was and look we "rolled back our prices". What they don't say is that the old price is what they bumped it to for the long weekend or something. /rant

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 15:34 • by Orbstart (unregistered)
247282 in reply to 247261
AC:
TRWTF here is selling crap based on the movie Wall-E. Didn't they watch the movie first!?

They were too busy enjoying their cupcakes-in-a-cup.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 15:34 • by DWalker (unregistered)
247283 in reply to 247139
Vollhorst:
If it would be my job to put up those faulty signs I would give a damn about what is on them. Most likely I would commit suicide anyway but why the fuck should I care about those signs? You don't get paid to think on that job, do you?


Is it just me, or does your thinking change radically from the first part where you say you DO care, then you say you DON'T care. Pick one and stick with it!

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 15:37 • by DWalker (unregistered)
247284 in reply to 247158
RBoy:
Enough with the google news wtf's. It happens all the time. At least once a week.

The joke loses it's tristique when you realize how often it happens


Loses its what? (Besides the unneccessary apostrophe?)

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 15:38 • by Nobody (unregistered)
After high school I used to work in a supermarket. I used to make and print signs like these for the meat and seafood departments. Before I got caught I used to include absurd little comments in the small print.

For example if the sign says.
"Frozen Snow Crab Legs $2.99/lb"
I would insert in tiny text at the bottom:
"Elvis' last meal consisted of snow crab and pancake batter"

Then I would stand back and watch as 95% of people would never notice it. But what was fun was watching the 5% who did notice. Their reaction ran the gamut from smiles and double-takes to rolling with laughter and pointing it out to other people.

My point is when you are a minimum wage monkey sometimes you have to make your own fun. Don't assume things like this are a mistake.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 15:40 • by Nobody (unregistered)
247287 in reply to 247284
DWalker:
RBoy:
Enough with the google news wtf's. It happens all the time. At least once a week.

The joke loses it's tristique when you realize how often it happens


Loses its what? (Besides the unneccessary apostrophe?)


Tristique is a perfectly cromulent word.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 16:18 • by Gwyn (unregistered)
247295 in reply to 247189
I just wrote 156 - it's a virus though so I wouldn't download it if I were you.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 16:21 • by Jay (unregistered)
247296 in reply to 247189
Anon:
BTW, if anybody want's my one byte app it's 157. There, I've saved you from having to download it.


I believe I have found a bug in this application.

Here's the patch: 93.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 16:22 • by ysth (unregistered)
247297 in reply to 247189
Anon:
BTW, if anybody want's my one byte app it's 157. There, I've saved you from having to download it.
FWIW:

$ perl -we'print chr 157' | file -
/dev/stdin: very short file (no magic)

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 16:24 • by Jay (unregistered)
I once saw a sign in a department store that said, "On sale: $99.95 / Regular price: $109.95" And I thought to myself, I really don't believe you. The regular price is $109.95? Wouldn't that violate the Law of Price Points?

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 16:40 • by andrew (unregistered)
247303 in reply to 247189
And by reading that, it's been delivered over the internet, thus downloading. thanks for wasting my precious download limit on your crappy app

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 17:28 • by Anone (unregistered)
247306 in reply to 247157
Smyle:
TRWTF on the first one: WTF is a "T/STRA P/PAY B/BND"?


Telstra Prepaid Broadband

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 17:29 • by Sork (unregistered)
247307 in reply to 247189
Anon:
BTW, if anybody want's my one byte app it's 157. There, I've saved you from having to download it.


That is part of an illegal prime. I must ask you to remove it from the internet at once.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_prime

Re: Subject

2009-03-03 18:19 • by Eternal Density
247309 in reply to 247128
(okay, I forgot that the delete button is broken)

Re: Subject

2009-03-03 18:20 • by Eternal Density
247310 in reply to 247128
Commenter Name:
Comment
I logged in to disagree.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 18:33 • by Zemm
247311 in reply to 247163
Pennies go to heaven:
Jim Cooper:
AndyL:
I understand why signs with negative markdowns are a WTF, but what's wrong with the ones with small markdowns?

In Australia we no longer have 1 or 2 cent pieces :-)

Lucky you - "they" were looking to pass similar legislation here in Canada, people were freaking out, businesses were stating it was the beginning of the end, and "they" backed off of it. Yet more and more businesses don't give pennies, and will round to 5 cents. Nobody complains about rounding errors. I'm sure we'll see some TDWTF's about idiot penny-rounding code sooner or later. Should start a pool until when it first shows up! :D


I like not having to worry about the copper coins! "They" were even talking about removing 5c pieces too, but I haven't heard anything about that in years.

You can pay with EFTPOS/credit if you really want to save the cent.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 18:36 • by Zemm
247313 in reply to 247306
Anone:
Smyle:
TRWTF on the first one: WTF is a "T/STRA P/PAY B/BND"?


Telstra Prepaid Broadband


Prepaid is better when it comes to Telstra so that you don't get bills for thousands of dollars.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 18:39 • by DaveK
247314 in reply to 247189
Anon:
Anon:
avflinsch:
Anon:
So if an application was < 1 byte you can download it out of thin air?


Only if it was exactly zero bytes. If it were a negative number of bytes, you would need a connection to return them.



Actually, I guess I mistyped. I should have said <= 1 byte since the message only says > 1 byte. Obviously if it's zero bytes, it's not a problem.


BTW, if anybody want's my one byte app it's 157. There, I've saved you from having to download it.
BTW, if anybody wants any of my one byte apps, they're 0 to 156 and 158 to 255. And you'll have to pay - I've patented them.

Lawyers letters are about to go out to the two infringers upthread.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 18:43 • by DaveK
247315 in reply to 247296
Jay:
Anon:
BTW, if anybody want's my one byte app it's 157. There, I've saved you from having to download it.


I believe I have found a bug in this application.

Here's the patch: 93.
Patches are usually supplied as deltas. That's a whole other application.

Oh, waitaminnit, I geddit! This is one of those "I found a bug in windows, does anyone have a solution?" "Yes, install Linux" exchanges, isn't it? That reminds me of an old joke:

-105
ROFL. That one still cracks me up every time.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 19:09 • by darkmattar
247319 in reply to 247314
DaveK:

Anon:

BTW, if anybody want's my one byte app it's 157. There, I've saved you from having to download it.

BTW, if anybody wants any of my one byte apps, they're 0 to 156 and 158 to 255. And you'll have to pay - I've patented them.

Lawyers letters are about to go out to the two infringers upthread.

Your apps are obviously all insecure since they are apparently unsigned.

Buy my secure and signed apps:
-114, -111, and -42.

Furthermore, I have patented secure signed 1 byte apps altogether, so if any of the rest of you want to write signed 1byte apps you'll have to pay royalties.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 22:21 • by SurturZ (unregistered)
No, I don't need to be logged in to disagree.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-03 23:43 • by Sanity (unregistered)
247333 in reply to 247130
Anon:
So if an application was < 1 byte you can download it out of thin air?

Well, <= 1 byte...

And no, my understand is, you could pull it out of 3G. Not that it's any less funny, but it looks like he has exactly 1 byte left on his 3G plan (or it's a genuine bug).

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-04 02:23 • by Chris Tomkinson (unregistered)
247350 in reply to 247296
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Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-04 02:53 • by DaveK
247352 in reply to 247350
Chris Tomkinson:
March 4, 2009

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I, Chris Tomkinson, certify under penalty of perjury, that I am an agent authorized to act on behalf of the owner of certain intellectual property rights.

I have a good faith belief that the items or materials listed below are not authorized by law for use by the above named domain name owner or their agents and therefore infringes the copyright owner's rights. I hereby demand that you act expeditiously to remove or disable access to the material or items claimed to be infringing.

Allegedly Infringing items or materials:

* Custom Facebook Application
* Bugfix Patch for Application

Infringing material that I demand be disabled or removed in consideration of the above:

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See? I told you I had a lawyer. You guys shoulda listened while you had the chance. Now I'm going to take you to the cleaners.

I'm going after Sesame Street next.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-04 03:57 • by SenTree
247358 in reply to 247253
Moogal:
I got a strange sense of deja vu reading this, then realised that the Telstra one was mentioned on Radio 4's "The News Quiz" back at the beginning of the month.

I've noticed this a lot on Radio 4's comedy shows in the last few years. The web makes researchers' jobs a lot easier, but it's bad when they broadcast stuff that was on Usenet five years ago - especially when two shows use the same item in the same week.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-04 05:32 • by Ray (unregistered)
That Telstra one was completely out of context.

Telstra did not set the price, the special price was from BigW when they were having a sale on Telstra Pre-paid wireless NextG broadband.

The thing the post didn't say was that you paid 148.99 for the NextG broadband dongle and 0.01cents for the 59.00 Telstra NextG pre-paid mobile phone that came with it.

I know this because i bought one of these when it was on sale at my local BigW.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-04 07:43 • by John (unregistered)
In Oz, where Telstra lives, we don't refer to cents as 'pennies'.

We stopped using pennies with 'decimalisation', decades ago.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-04 12:38 • by DaveK
247482 in reply to 247140
Gary Hall:
Anon:
So if an application was < 1 byte you can download it out of thin air?


Yes, it just guesses the required bits, asking you if it's right each time...

Is it 0000001?
Is it 0000010?
Is it 0000011?
etc...

No, that's not "downloading" either. You're giving the computer too much credit here - when I explicitly specify a pattern of bits to a computer, I call the activity "programming". And I get to charge a lot more for it than anybody will ever pay you to "download" something for them.

Re: Every Penny Counts

2009-03-04 21:22 • by oglcm (unregistered)
The pixel-perfect screenshot of the iPhone App Store seems to indicate that it is running in either the simulator, or under the debugger; indicating that this is either a fake, or downloads from the App Store under such conditions were blocked by redefining the size limit to zero.
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