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Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 06:10 • by AH (unregistered)
"YouTube think it knows..."?

If "YouTube" is singular, "think" should be "thinks".

If "YouTube" is plural (which it's not), "it knows" should be "they know".

Ugh.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 06:24 • by John Jackson (unregistered)
The FoxPro one isn't that uncommon... When you're running a foxpro program, it doesn't like being interrupted (it could corrupt tables if it exits prematurely)

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 06:49 • by chris (unregistered)
397167 in reply to 397164
John Jackson:
The FoxPro one isn't that uncommon... When you're running a foxpro program, it doesn't like being interrupted (it could corrupt tables if it exits prematurely)

Great. I just tried to look up how old the concept of db transaction logs is - I couldn't find a direct answer, but did see the top of a paper on the "history" of it, written in 1993.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 07:01 • by ParkinT
397168 in reply to 397164
John Jackson:
The FoxPro one isn't that uncommon... When you're running a foxpro program, it doesn't like being interrupted (it could corrupt tables if it exits prematurely)


It would be worse to experience Premature Incontinence!!

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 07:04 • by the beholder (unregistered)
Were there 102% laminated sheets when that promo started?

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 07:11 • by OldCoder (unregistered)
397170 in reply to 397169
the beholder:
Were there 102% laminated sheets when that promo started?

Given the accuracy of the other arithmetic in that shot, anything is possible.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 07:15 • by faoileag
Larry Garfield:
but it leaves me wondering - If my elevator has no operating system, how is it moving???

Elevators don't move, they sulk in basements.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 07:19 • by Gorbachov (unregistered)
397172 in reply to 397170
OldCoder:
the beholder:
Were there 102% laminated sheets when that promo started?

Given the accuracy of the other arithmetic in that shot, anything is possible.


thats what she said!

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 07:19 • by TheCPUWizard
397173 in reply to 397167
chris:
John Jackson:
The FoxPro one isn't that uncommon... When you're running a foxpro program, it doesn't like being interrupted (it could corrupt tables if it exits prematurely)

Great. I just tried to look up how old the concept of db transaction logs is - I couldn't find a direct answer, but did see the top of a paper on the "history" of it, written in 1993.


So, FoxPro as a product goes back to 1989, and the underlying design goes back even earlier [1981 for DBase II, and 1971 for RETRIEVE)

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 07:22 • by portablejim
I guess 2+5=9 for very large values of 2 and 5.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 07:25 • by faoileag
Levi B.:
I want to know why there's still 41% of the laminating sheets left unclaimed with that awesome -21% savings.

Because shoppers smart enough to notice the "-" in front of the 21% are waiting for the "Lightning Deal" period to end so that they could order the laminating sheets at their original price of $3.32.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 07:30 • by faoileag
397176 in reply to 397174
portablejim:
I guess 2+5=9 for very large values of 2 and 5.

Nope. 2.99999 + 5.99999 will never be 9 irrespective of how many 9s you might throw at the two numbers. Close, but never really equal.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 07:35 • by Ho Miscreant! (unregistered)
The value of "What is the sound of one hand clapping is wrong. Please meditate on this further"

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 07:44 • by Hindrim (unregistered)
397178 in reply to 397171
faoileag:
Larry Garfield:
but it leaves me wondering - If my elevator has no operating system, how is it moving???

Elevators don't move, they sulk in basements.


Just speak nicely to them and they may even go sideways.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 07:50 • by faoileag
397179 in reply to 397178
Hindrim:
faoileag:
Larry Garfield:
but it leaves me wondering - If my elevator has no operating system, how is it moving???
Elevators don't move, they sulk in basements.
Just speak nicely to them and they may even go sideways.

I thought they were over that phase?

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 07:56 • by Norman (unregistered)
Since the bounds of that range aren't specified to be open or closed, only a linguistic interpretation of "between" is possible. So in a mathematical sense, there isn't a (real) number _between_ 1048576 and 1048576.

I guess this is a clever trick by MS to test the general population for math geniuses that invented a superior kind of mathematics, so they can hire them first.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 07:59 • by Lockwood
How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and five are seven.
Sometime, Alexander. Sometimes they are nine. Sometimes they are six. Sometimes they are all of them at once.

Addendum (2012-12-14 08:18):
Tried to delete this and repost. Someone got in after me.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 08:03 • by just stop it (unregistered)
397182 in reply to 397162
AH:
"YouTube think it knows..."?

If "YouTube" is singular, "think" should be "thinks".

If "YouTube" is plural (which it's not), "it knows" should be "they know".

Ugh.

Cool story, bro.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 08:05 • by Lockwood
"Do you remember," he went on, "writing in your diary, "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus five make seven"?"
"Yes," said Alexander.
The Registration Form held up his right hand, all fingers extended, then his left hand, its back towards Alexander, with the thumb, ring and little fingers hidden and two fingers extended.
"How many fingers am I holding up, Alexander?"
"Seven"
"And if the party says it is not seven but nine, then how many?"
"Seven"
"How many fingers, Alexander?"
"Seven! Seven! What else can I say? Seven!"
"How many fingers, Alexander?"
"Nine! Nine! Nine!"
"No, Alexander, that is no use. You are lying. You still think there are seven. How many fingers, please?"
"How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and five are seven."
"Sometimes, Alexander. Sometimes they are nine. Sometimes they are six. Sometimes they are all of them at once."

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 08:08 • by Gaza Rullz (unregistered)
How does the elevator move ????








Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 08:30 • by MindChild (unregistered)
My father is an elevator mechanic for over 20 years, so I can shed some light on the elevator moving. That panel has a missing operating system, not the elevator. An elevator is almost completely mechanical, driven by controllers that have designs dating back 80+ years. Some newer elevators (Otis most notably) use microcontrollers, but these tend to be undesirable because they require cooling in the machine room.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 08:49 • by Bob (unregistered)
397188 in reply to 397176
What? Maths fail!

1 divided by 3 == one third == 0.3recurring

Therefore, 3 times one third == 3 times 0.3recurring == 0.9recurring == 1

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 08:52 • by Mike Nightstky (unregistered)

Winnipeg minor basketball Association
We have made come changes to your schedule on December 8th we apologize for the incontinence.


First i thought it was the association of kindergarden kids. And the "come" changes were because of the incontinence of some of the members of the minor league.


Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 09:00 • by Xarthaneon the Unclear (unregistered)
397191 in reply to 397171
faoileag:
Larry Garfield:
but it leaves me wondering - If my elevator has no operating system, how is it moving???

Elevators don't move, they sulk in basements.


What I do on the weekend is none of your business.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 09:03 • by Zapp Brannigan (unregistered)
Grammar police are the the buzz killers of the the internet.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 09:20 • by John M (unregistered)
The real WTF is the fact that there were 102% laminating sheets as part of that deal. Guess some were in overstock.

CAPTCHA: Damnnum: Damn that number. Har har, oh the irony!

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 09:22 • by Martin E (unregistered)
The Hyper-V submission isn't actually a bug.

When you configure a VM in Hyper-V 2012 to use dynamic RAM it defaults to a max memory of 1048576 Mb (or 1 Tb).

If the VM is running, as this one is, you can't lower the max memory, only raise it and if the VM was configured with the default memory config you can't enter anything but the max amount of memory - which the tooltip will inform you about.

CAPTCHA: genitus (a smart d*ck?)

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 09:39 • by Ben Jammin (unregistered)
397197 in reply to 397176
faoileag:
portablejim:
I guess 2+5=9 for very large values of 2 and 5.

Nope. 2.99999 + 5.99999 will never be 9 irrespective of how many 9s you might throw at the two numbers. Close, but never really equal.

I believe that:
1) 2.9 and 5.9 are just small values of 3 and 6 respectively and
2) if you're gonna be a math nazi, you should get it right.

p.s. I still like the original joke

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 09:53 • by Hank (unregistered)
397198 in reply to 397167
chris:
John Jackson:
The FoxPro one isn't that uncommon... When you're running a foxpro program, it doesn't like being interrupted (it could corrupt tables if it exits prematurely)

Great. I just tried to look up how old the concept of db transaction logs is - I couldn't find a direct answer, but did see the top of a paper on the "history" of it, written in 1993.
We were doing properly atomic database transactions with reliable locking, commits, rollbacks, before and after images, "deadly embrace" handling, all that stuff, back in 1980 on a Honeywell mainframe with COBOL.

Then came the "microcomputer" (aka PC) people: "You guys make everything too hard! This will be so easy!"

We looked into the technology and saw they'd blown off virtually all the principles of computer science and practical knowledge acquired from experience. We warned it wouldn't be reliable. There will be problems.

Nobody cared. All they wanted was easy.

And we still struggle from that laziness today. Although arguably Windows 8 is a lot more complicated to master than that mainframe ever was. So there's your "easy".

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 10:13 • by Bas B. (unregistered)
"I want to know why there's still 41% of the laminating sheets left unclaimed with that awesome -21% savings."

61% was already claimed. According my math only 39% is left unclaimed.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 10:16 • by Rafael (unregistered)
In Soviet Daily WTF 61% claimed laminated sheets + 41% unclaimed totals the 102% of produced laminated sheets.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 10:17 • by Lee (unregistered)
397203 in reply to 397176
faoileag:
portablejim:
I guess 2+5=9 for very large values of 2 and 5.

Nope. 2.99999 + 5.99999 will never be 9 irrespective of how many 9s you might throw at the two numbers. Close, but never really equal.


1 / 3 = .3333...(3 repeated)
.3333... * 3 = .9999... (9 repeated)
1 / 3 = 1/3
1/3 * 3 = 1

1 = .9999...

2.9999... = 2 + 3/3
5.9999... = 5 + 3/3

2.9999... + 5.9999... = 9

capture/oppeto

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 10:42 • by Jim Rees (unregistered)
I don't think I'd get on the elevator if the display said "check cable".

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 11:10 • by Bribous (unregistered)
397206 in reply to 397183

"Do you remember," he went on, "writing in your diary, "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus five make seven"?"
"Yes," said Alexander.
The Registration Form held up his right hand, all fingers extended, then his left hand, its back towards Alexander, with the thumb, ring and little fingers hidden and two fingers extended.
"How many fingers am I holding up, Alexander?"
"Seven"
"And if the party says it is not seven but nine, then how many?"
"Seven"
"How many fingers, Alexander?"
"Seven! Seven! What else can I say? Seven!"
"How many fingers, Alexander?"
"Nine! Nine! Nine!"
"No, Winston, that is no use. You are lying. You still think there are seven. How many fingers, please?"
"How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and five are seven."
"Sometimes, Alexander. Sometimes they are nine. Sometimes they are six. Sometimes they are all of them at once."

Oh. My. God.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 11:14 • by Garrison Fiord (unregistered)
397207 in reply to 397184
Up and down.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 11:16 • by Jeff (unregistered)
Yoda moves the elevator! (...or depending on the energy needed to move the elevator, more than one yoda: http://what-if.xkcd.com/3/)

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 11:19 • by DCRoss
There... are... SEVEN LIGHTS!

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 11:34 • by Captcha:validus (your comment is not) (unregistered)
397210 in reply to 397203
Lee:
faoileag:
portablejim:
I guess 2+5=9 for very large values of 2 and 5.

Nope. 2.99999 + 5.99999 will never be 9 irrespective of how many 9s you might throw at the two numbers. Close, but never really equal.


1 / 3 = .3333...(3 repeated)
.3333... * 3 = .9999... (9 repeated)
[snip]

Pedantic reply:
He said "irrespective of how many 9s you might throw at the two numbers". This can be interpreted as including natural numbers only, since you can't actually "throw" an infinity of nines at a number, in which case you can't have "9 repeated" and he is absolutely correct.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 11:37 • by Todd (unregistered)
I must be kinda dumb, but I can't find the WTF in the Amazon pic. Is it that -21% is not a big enough discount? Or $4.02 not a big enough price for the discount to be relevant?

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 11:53 • by sRc (unregistered)
397214 in reply to 397211
the percent is the discount. -21% means its more expensive then the regular price

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 11:55 • by Zecc
My Firefox is visual too.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 11:56 • by Visual Chrome (unregistered)
"Oh, Visual Firefox, I wish I knew how to quit you! Literally," wrote Peter Hamlen.


Should be Visual FoxPro, not Firefox? Unless I'm missing some in joke?

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 12:43 • by jay (unregistered)
397220 in reply to 397169
the beholder:
Were there 102% laminated sheets when that promo started?


The value of, "What's the result of 41+61?" is too large. Maximum value of 100 required.

If the party says that 41+61=100, how many is it now?

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 12:59 • by jay (unregistered)
397225 in reply to 397183
"Do you remember," he went on, "writing in your diary, "Freedom is the freedom to say that $1.6 trillion minus $40 billion makes $1.56 trillion"?"

"Yes," said Milton.

The President's Budget held up his right hand, all fingers extended, then his left hand, its back towards Milton, pointing to the annual deficit of $1.6 trillion and the president's proposed tax increase on the rich of $40 billion.

"How much is the deficit now, Milton?"

"$1.56 trillion."

"And if the Democratic Party says it is not $1.56 trillion, but balanced, then how much?"

"$1.56 trillion."

"How much, Milton?"

"$1.56 trillion! What else can I say? $1.56 trillion!"

"How much, Milton?"

"Balanced! Balanced! Balanced!"

"No, Milton, that is no use. You are lying. You still think there is a deficit. How much, please?"

"How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? $1.6 trillion minus $40 billion is $1.56 trillion."

"Sometimes, Milton. Sometimes it is balanced. Sometimes it is a defict. Sometimes it is a surplus."

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 13:23 • by Zylon
397227 in reply to 397216
Visual Chrome:
"Oh, Visual Firefox, I wish I knew how to quit you! Literally," wrote Peter Hamlen.
Should be Visual FoxPro, not Firefox? Unless I'm missing some in joke?
The joke is the level of proofreading that goes into the articles. Unfortunately, the joke is on us.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 13:25 • by Ken B (unregistered)
397229 in reply to 397176
faoileag:
portablejim:
I guess 2+5=9 for very large values of 2 and 5.

Nope. 2.99999 + 5.99999 will never be 9 irrespective of how many 9s you might throw at the two numbers. Close, but never really equal.
(I hope this formats correctly.)

  _     _

2.9 + 5.9 == 9
(That's supposed to be overlines above the ".9"s.

Not "close, but never really equal", but "exactly equal".

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 13:29 • by airdrik (unregistered)
We used to have a quotes page on our company wiki which featured (among other memorables, until the page was banned by our legal department to avoid potential legal complications) an e-mail chain between one of our client service people and one of our clients over some issue or other whose details have long since been lost.
The CSR e-mailed the client with the explanation of the problem+resolution, followed by the "sorry for the incontinence" line, and the client replied saying "The <short description of problem> was a minor inconvenience. The incontinence, however, must be a major problem. Sorry to hear about it"

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 13:43 • by HowItWorks (unregistered)
397233 in reply to 397179
faoileag:
Hindrim:
faoileag:
Larry Garfield:
but it leaves me wondering - If my elevator has no operating system, how is it moving???
Elevators don't move, they sulk in basements.
Just speak nicely to them and they may even go sideways.

I thought they were over that phase?

Every one should know the elevator cage does not move. You enter that while the surrounding time-space continium is re-positioned.

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 13:48 • by Cube (unregistered)
"I want to know why there's still 41% of the laminating sheets left unclaimed with that awesome -21% savings"

Cos their math is as good as yours?

Re: Elevator Failure

2012-12-14 13:52 • by Your Name (unregistered)
397238 in reply to 397233
HowItWorks:
faoileag:
Hindrim:
faoileag:
Larry Garfield:
but it leaves me wondering - If my elevator has no operating system, how is it moving???
Elevators don't move, they sulk in basements.
Just speak nicely to them and they may even go sideways.

I thought they were over that phase?

Every one should know the elevator cage does not move. You enter that while the surrounding time-space continium is re-positioned.


Look, we've been through this already. The laws of physics are the same for either reference frame, so you can model it as either the building is stationary and the elevator moving relative to it, or the elevator stationary and the building moving relative to the elevator. They're both equally correct; neither is a privileged frame of reference.
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