• Merg (unregistered)

    What's going on with the telephone one? It makes no sense to me, should I be able to read that text?

    It's been a long week, so sorry if this is a dumb question.

  • (cs)

    ATI. 'nuff said.

  • QJo (unregistered)

    As for Firebug, all you need to do is press F12 and you'll know soon enough as to whether it's installed or not.

  • QJo (unregistered)

    TRWTF of course is UCSD: they've got a picture of some guy with a very nasty-looking piece of metal in his hand, with a view, apparently, to throwing it. That is very dangerous -- he'll have someone's eye out if he's not careful. We should not be encouraging our youth to participating in such appallingly unsafe practices. Can't they change it to a picture of a decorously-dressed lady playing the piano, or something?

  • ANON (unregistered) in reply to Merg
    Merg:
    What's going on with the telephone one? It makes no sense to me, should I be able to read that text?

    It's been a long week, so sorry if this is a dumb question.

    I was wondering the same. Maybe it's because the things in the yellow boxes look like xml (is that not enough). Or it's the emergency exit plan on the bottom right corner which looks so confusing that most people will be incinerated before understanding it.

  • Stephen Roberts (unregistered)

    For the uninitiated the telephone error is the default error screen for a .net website. Setting custom errors to Off would give a detailed error as the error screen simply says theres been an error.

  • The Zero Avenger (unregistered)

    It's a shame that the 0x0 option is grayed out, because I just happen to have a 0x0 monitor right over... oh no, where'd it go?!

  • Nick (unregistered) in reply to The Zero Avenger

    Good one!!

  • faoileag (unregistered)

    If only 9,468 people like Arthur Beren's shoes, and 160,131 people like dice, perhaps Arthur Beren should stop making shoes and start making dice instead?

  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to QJo
    QJo:
    TRWTF of course is UCSD: they've got a picture of some guy with a *very* nasty-looking piece of metal in his hand, with a view, apparently, to throwing it. ... Can't they change it to a picture of a decorously-dressed lady playing the piano, or something?
    That's King Triton, the father of Ariel, the little mermaid, if I'm not too wrong. Probably an important sponsor of UCSD and definitely not the sort of person you would want to rile by replacing his picture with that of some lass playing the piano.
  • (cs)

    An Excel WTF? Blasphemy! Time to get out my torch and pitchfork!

  • QJo (unregistered) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    QJo:
    TRWTF of course is UCSD: they've got a picture of some guy with a *very* nasty-looking piece of metal in his hand, with a view, apparently, to throwing it. ... Can't they change it to a picture of a decorously-dressed lady playing the piano, or something?
    That's King Triton, the father of Ariel, the little mermaid, if I'm not too wrong. Probably an important sponsor of UCSD and definitely not the sort of person you would want to rile by replacing his picture with that of some lass playing the piano.

    TRWTF is of course UCSD: using for their logo a picture of someone taken from a Disney cartoon.

  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to QJo
    QJo:
    faoileag:
    QJo:
    TRWTF of course is UCSD: they've got a picture of some guy with a *very* nasty-looking piece of metal in his hand, with a view, apparently, to throwing it. ... Can't they change it to a picture of a decorously-dressed lady playing the piano, or something?
    That's King Triton, the father of Ariel, the little mermaid, if I'm not too wrong...
    TRWTF is of course UCSD: using for their logo a picture of someone taken from a Disney cartoon.
    Ah, you might have got me wrong there. That was meant as a joke. The bloke on UCSD's website is probably Triton, son of Poseidon, father of Pallas (given that the name of the system seems to be "Triton" ("My Tritonlink")), but definitely not the Disney character, as a Google image search will reveal to you. The bloke on the web page looks like something Arielle might run away with, whereas the Disney character definitely looks a more (grand)fatherly.
  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to mott555
    mott555:
    An Excel WTF? Blasphemy! Time to get out my torch and pitchfork!
    Actually, it might well be a Windows 8 error, with Excel just reporting it.
  • QJo (unregistered) in reply to faoileag
    faoileag:
    QJo:
    faoileag:
    QJo:
    TRWTF of course is UCSD: they've got a picture of some guy with a *very* nasty-looking piece of metal in his hand, with a view, apparently, to throwing it. ... Can't they change it to a picture of a decorously-dressed lady playing the piano, or something?
    That's King Triton, the father of Ariel, the little mermaid, if I'm not too wrong...
    TRWTF is of course UCSD: using for their logo a picture of someone taken from a Disney cartoon.
    Ah, you might have got me wrong there. That was meant as a joke. The bloke on UCSD's website is probably Triton, son of Poseidon, father of Pallas (given that the name of the system seems to be "Triton" ("My Tritonlink")), but definitely not the Disney character, as a Google image search will reveal to you. The bloke on the web page looks like something Arielle might run away with, whereas the Disney character definitely looks a more (grand)fatherly.

    Eww -- that's gross! Why would a mermaid run away with her grandfather? Besides I know you're talking rubbish because there's no such thing as mermaids. The IPU told me.

  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to QJo
    QJo:
    faoileag:
    The bloke on the web page looks like something Arielle might run away with, whereas the Disney character definitely looks a more (grand)fatherly.
    Eww -- that's gross! Why would a mermaid run away with her grandfather?
    I didn't insinuate she would run away with her grandfather - I said she might with the handsome bloke on UCSD's website. But looking of Disney pictures of King Triton and Arielle, one can not help but think that he probably became father of Arielle rather late in his life.
    QJo:
    Besides I know you're talking rubbish because there's no such thing as mermaids. The IPU told me.
    Yes there are! Go to Weeki Wachi Springs and see for yourself!
  • (cs)

    Windows 8 looks like they were going for the Windows 1.0 look and feel.

  • golddog (unregistered)

    Let's just agree that on the phone surpasses WTF-ery into true horror.

    I mean sure, it's bad if data/error messages don't display, monitor sizes are wrong in a list, and all the other errors we've seen over the years.

    But no beer and wings? Definition of tragedy.

  • DijkstronB (unregistered) in reply to operagost
    operagost:
    Windows 8 looks like they were going for the Windows 1.0 look and feel.
    At least previous versions of Windows would actually give you an error message, even if it wasn't comprehensible for non-technical people.

    Is it just me or does anyone else find the trend towards less informative error messages disturbing? In the Firefox one "cannot modify the needed file" really begs the question of what the "needed file" is. Was it too hard for them to provide a filename, at least?

  • 551 Error (unregistered)

    TRWTF is that first caption - I'm not a professor - just a graduate student in Pharma! The correct term of address would be Mr. Error, but I'm pretty laid back, so you can just call me 551 in class.

    -Fivesy

  • Lone Marauder (unregistered) in reply to DijkstronB
    DijkstronB:
    Is it just me or does anyone else find the trend towards less informative error messages disturbing? In the Firefox one "cannot modify the needed file" really begs the question of what the "needed file" is. Was it too hard for them to provide a filename, at least?

    Yeah I don't like the "dumbed down" error messages. I'm working with SharePoint 2013 now and the default error message if there's an error is literally, "Sorry, something went wrong" with a link for a correlation ID for admins. Come on, at least tell me what went wrong so I know where to start, without having to pull all the logs.

  • Robert (unregistered)

    For cygwin the services are not standard windows services. You will need to check the appropriate logs to determine the cause. You are looking at a generic windows error code otherwise.

  • (cs)

    Whoa, never expected to see a Zelda II shoutout here.

  • (cs) in reply to DijkstronB
    DijkstronB:
    Is it just me or does anyone else find the trend towards less informative error messages disturbing? In the Firefox one "cannot modify the needed file" really begs the question of what the "needed file" is. Was it too hard for them to provide a filename, at least?

    Glad you asked! http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/p/30077/348441.aspx#348441

  • Herr Otto Flick (unregistered) in reply to Robert
    Robert:
    For cygwin the services are not standard windows services. You will need to check the appropriate logs to determine the cause. You are looking at a generic windows error code otherwise.

    Quite, cygwin/ssh didn't start, but the unhelpful error message comes from windows.

  • faoileag (unregistered) in reply to operagost
    operagost:
    Windows 8 looks like they were going for the Windows 1.0 look and feel.
    Someone beat you to that idea - here's the link :-) [url href="http://tinyhacker.com/hacks/windows-1-vs-windows-8/"]http://tinyhacker.com/hacks/windows-1-vs-windows-8/[/url]

    Note to Akismet: No, this is not spam. I am not promoting anything. You can't by anything at the target of the link (at least, not that I know off). It's just a humerous link. Enough?

  • sadf (unregistered)

    i hate this website it is stuipd

  • T (unregistered)

    Our online course management system was called "Neptun". In that system seeing that the instructor of the class was "ERROR" was a good sign, because it meant that at least you could log in.

  • Erwin Schrödinger (unregistered)

    Can't see a problem with #2.

  • foo (unregistered) in reply to The Zero Avenger
    The Zero Avenger:
    It's a shame that the 0x0 option is grayed out, because I just happen to have a 0x0 monitor right over... oh no, where'd it go?!
    Poor baby, I've got a HD screen, 0x1080!
  • foo (unregistered) in reply to Stephen Roberts
    Stephen Roberts:
    For the uninitiated the telephone error is the default error screen for a .net website. Setting custom errors to Off would give a detailed error as the error screen simply says theres been an error.
    That's surely a long way of simply saying there's been an error. Was this error screen written by one of the TDWTF authors?
  • (cs)

    Living across the street from UCSD (my fiancee is about to defend her thesis there), I can tell you that there are many WTFs at the school. Number one being that it's mostly the kids of rich Asians from Los Angeles/Orange County that have overly-demanding parents, so pretty much every kid in that school cheats.

    Having the Triton as their mascot ranks as only the top 11th or 12th WTF there.

    [image]
  • auofaofo (unregistered)

    Cool, I got a similar error message when Firebug was updating one time.

  • Friedrice The Great (unregistered) in reply to mott555
    mott555:
    An Excel WTF? Blasphemy! Time to get out my torch and pitchfork!

    Excel is the only good software Microsoft has ever prudoced.

    This post spell-checked by Excel.

  • eric76 (unregistered) in reply to The Zero Avenger
    The Zero Avenger:
    It's a shame that the 0x0 option is grayed out, because I just happen to have a 0x0 monitor right over... oh no, where'd it go?!

    Which costs less -- a 0x0 monitor or write-only memory?

  • Doug (unregistered)

    Do you know Bagu?

  • (cs)

    Looks like Neethan P. accidentally more than one word.

  • bambam (unregistered) in reply to Stephen Roberts
    Stephen Roberts:
    For the uninitiated the telephone error is the default error screen for a .net website. Setting custom errors to Off would give a detailed error as the error screen simply says theres been an error.
    Didn't know the .net TLD had a default error screen.
  • (cs) in reply to foo
    foo:
    The Zero Avenger:
    It's a shame that the 0x0 option is grayed out, because I just happen to have a 0x0 monitor right over... oh no, where'd it go?!
    Poor baby, I've got a HD screen, 0x1080!
    I don't get what 4224 has to do with anything.
  • TortoiseWrath (unregistered) in reply to DijkstronB
    DijkstronB:
    operagost:
    Windows 8 looks like they were going for the Windows 1.0 look and feel.
    At least previous versions of Windows would actually give you an error message, even if it wasn't comprehensible for non-technical people.

    Is it just me or does anyone else find the trend towards less informative error messages disturbing? In the Firefox one "cannot modify the needed file" really begs the question of what the "needed file" is. Was it too hard for them to provide a filename, at least?

    Sometimes when I try to open Firefox, I get "Could not open Firefox because Firefox could not find the file."

    Thanks, guys.

  • Zacrath (unregistered)

    That Cygwin image reminds me of another error'd I saw in Pop-up Potpourri: Mayday Edition.

    [image]

    Since it's the same program name it's clear to me that this is actually a Windows WTF.

  • Techpaul (unregistered) in reply to DijkstronB

    [quote user="DijkstronB"Is it just me or does anyone else find the trend towards less informative error messages disturbing? In the Firefox one "cannot modify the needed file" really begs the question of what the "needed file" is. Was it too hard for them to provide a filename, at least?[/quote]Like in Win 2K/XP (no doubt in 7 and 8 - spelt HATE), the Event log message which is just

    "The specified module did not load"

    No clue anywhere to which module that is

  • CCCCC (unregistered) in reply to The Zero Avenger

    Well, I have a 1x1 monitor on my keychain...

  • (cs) in reply to The Zero Avenger
    The Zero Avenger:
    It's a shame that the 0x0 option is grayed out, because I just happen to have a 0x0 monitor right over... oh no, where'd it go?!

    WHere do you buy that junk?

  • reagbf (unregistered)

    This ATI drivers are old, but on modern AMD system you could create arbitrary large virtual display using bezel compensation.

  • (cs) in reply to foo

    The Real WTF with the .NET error is not having a custom error page enabled for a production system.

    foo:
    That's surely a long way of simply saying there's been an error. Was this error screen written by one of the TDWTF authors?
    It has instructions on how to turn off the generic message and show the actual error. It says which config XML nodes to edit.
  • gnasher729 (unregistered) in reply to Techpaul

    [quote user="Techpaul"][quote user="DijkstronB"Is it just me or does anyone else find the trend towards less informative error messages disturbing? In the Firefox one "cannot modify the needed file" really begs the question of what the "needed file" is. Was it too hard for them to provide a filename, at least?[/quote]Like in Win 2K/XP (no doubt in 7 and 8 - spelt HATE), the Event log message which is just

    "The specified module did not load"

    No clue anywhere to which module that is[/quote]

    When an error happens, the user can potentially do three things: 1. Accept that it doesn't work. 2. Call for help. 3. Fix the problem themselves. It depends on the error and capabilities of the user which one to do.

    When designing an error message, you need to decide what you want to achieve. "Cannot modify the needed file" is neither here nor there. It confuses the user who cannot fix the problem himself, and it doesn't help anyone who tries to fix the problem.

  • (cs)

    The problem in Firefox should be easy to debug with Firebug.

  • Jim (unregistered) in reply to Lone Marauder
    Lone Marauder:
    DijkstronB:
    Is it just me or does anyone else find the trend towards less informative error messages disturbing? In the Firefox one "cannot modify the needed file" really begs the question of what the "needed file" is. Was it too hard for them to provide a filename, at least?

    Yeah I don't like the "dumbed down" error messages. I'm working with SharePoint 2013 now and the default error message if there's an error is literally, "Sorry, something went wrong" with a link for a correlation ID for admins. Come on, at least tell me what went wrong so I know where to start, without having to pull all the logs.

    The more information is in a message, the more possible it is for a tech-savvy end user to play (which can actually be a bad thing when the user who thinks he's tech savvy plays). When users can find and potentially fix problems, it means there's less support that can be billed back, because people start solving things themselves. The point of dumbin g down messages, then, is 2 fold:

    1. Increase suppport revenue by making it harder to support in-house
    2. Require that people actually understand whart's going on if they're going to fiddle

    One of the frustrations is support is that people think they understand every problem they encounter - and the more information you give them, the more they think they can diagnose it - and (even though I have a bad habit of doing it) it really isn't helpful when the user reporting the problem speculates on the underlying issue - other than to mention when they've seen a similar issue.

  • iWantToKeepAnon (unregistered)

    "The service did not report an error."

    The RWTF is attributing a 'net' command message to the Cygwin environment. I mean ... really?!?!? Who's running this forum anyway?

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