Comment On IBM Survivor, The High Road, & Find the Function!

[quote user="AlanGriffiths"]It used to be that "bad" meant, well "bad", but now it means "good". (I'm not sure what to say to mean "bad" maybe "evil"? Or does that mean "good"?)

I hereby nominate "Potential Microsoft/Yahoo Merger" as the new replacement for the traditional meaning of "bad" in our common vernacular.

I worked for IBM on a short contract in 1999 or 2000, at the age of 20? maybe 21. They hired me based on a phone interview only, for an ASP/SQL job working on a large circuit order and disconnect contract enforcement system that they used to enforce contract dates and terms with AT&T, their circuit provider. The integration point? Lotus f-ing Notes, and an ever-evolving data model managed by a guy who had been doing RDB for 25+ years and was more than slightly OCD. Lesson learned: never work for a company based on a phone interview alone, even on a contract.

The reason it was a short contract? Total non-fit. Beyond the Lotus Notes pain, they were way too tight about dress code -- ties every day -- and the fulltimers greatly resented the rates I, the highest rate contractor, was getting paid. Of course they ignored the crazy vacation days and health benefits they enjoyed. Lesson learned: don't reveal your rate, even to fellow contractors you think you can trust. It will get out.

The one upside of that whole experience? Working with a massive DB2 database on an RS/whatever platform. Sick, sick, sick RDBMS.

TInkerghost:

anon:

Big deal... We had a hot accountant in my old old job (desktop support) who had her own porn site... Believe me, we fought over who got to help her with any trouble-tickets. One of the guys on my team slept with her, but I'm pretty sure he had to pay for it.

Unfortunately, something like that never stays secret, so she got fired a month or so after we discovered her web-page (Supposedly, she actually was a good accountant. They didn't really want to fire her; just told her she couldn't be an accountant there AND have a porn-site. She choose to keep the porn-site up and they let her go)

Captcha: eros (of course)

We had a trainer at one company I worked for who was a Pro-Dom after hours, same company had a stripper ... seems they both worked there for the health insurance as they made much more money at the 2nd job.
So according to HR - Pro-Dom bad, stripper Good.

Surely the trainer would have been better employed as a Pro-Dom during office hours?

AT:

Third option on the popping-top: Plead that you foolishly drank a large cup of coffee/water/soda just before the interview and you desperately need a quick restroom break. That gives her an opportunity to discover and correct her clothing failure while preserving ambiguity as to whether you actually noticed the spill.

To be honest, I don't think "I need some time alone in the bathroom RIGHT NOW" would really have been the right response, either.

FredSaw:

K von M:

...that blouse-popper story is exactly why i never wear button-down shirts in the office. even now, it's always pull-overs or cardigans with tank tops underneath.

I think we're going to need pictures.

Or, in the worst case, it leaves the impression that you noticed the "clothing failure" and went for a quick wank in the restroom...

AT:

Third option on the popping-top: Plead that you foolishly drank a large cup of coffee/water/soda just before the interview and you desperately need a quick restroom break. That gives her an opportunity to discover and correct her clothing failure while preserving ambiguity as to whether you actually noticed the spill.

Or, in the worst case, it leaves the impression that you noticed the "clothing failure" and went for a quick wank in the restroom...

Anonymous:

FredSaw:

shakin:

I once interviewed a very attractive young woman who showed up at the interview with her fly undone and wearing bright pink underwear.

What, no Sharon Stone impression? Aw...

I used to work with a female programmer that was not only hot, but in the summer she wore a tight top that showed her bellybutton and very low cut pants. She also wore pink underware that was flashed every time she sat down or bent over.

Description:
* Early twenties
* Blonde
* Very attractive
* Higly fit (washboard stomach)
* Perfect breasts

I'm not making this up. I swear.

I'm sorry, your claim is in violation of Rule 15.

I agree, assuming the tests were on point, that sounded like a reasonable interview. Would the poster rather have started with a one-on-one, that asked all the same questions that were on the test? That would waste both the interviewer's and interviewee's time.

I worked with a pair of women who would show off some part of their body on purpose. It was part of the interview. It’s a test to see how cool you react. Best to just smile and spend more time looking them in the eyes. Anytime they were able to arouse someone they ended the interview. Their reason was that if you couldn’t handle the pressure of the interview by a hot woman then you’d probably fold under the pressure of you job too.

FIND THE COMMENT!!!!

BT:

AT:

Third option on the popping-top: Plead that you foolishly drank a large cup of coffee/water/soda just before the interview and you desperately need a quick restroom break. That gives her an opportunity to discover and correct her clothing failure while preserving ambiguity as to whether you actually noticed the spill.

Or, in the worst case, it leaves the impression that you noticed the "clothing failure" and went for a quick wank in the restroom...

Nice. So you not only failed to notice that 20 or so others had already posted the same thing, but then also decided you needed to post twice, with and without quoting the post you were needlessly replying to yet again. Thanks - there's never enough useless tripe here.

Should of told the bosom (I mean business) woman that you liked her shoes.

>> Third option on the popping-top: Plead that you foolishly drank a large cup of coffee/water/soda just before the interview and you desperately need a quick restroom break.

Oh, right, the poor woman's top comes open and you run to the restroom right away? Hopefully, she'd never put 2+2 together on THAT one.

KenW:

BT:

AT:

Third option on the popping-top: Plead that you foolishly drank a large cup of coffee/water/soda just before the interview and you desperately need a quick restroom break. That gives her an opportunity to discover and correct her clothing failure while preserving ambiguity as to whether you actually noticed the spill.

Or, in the worst case, it leaves the impression that you noticed the "clothing failure" and went for a quick wank in the restroom...

Nice. So you not only failed to notice that 20 or so others had already posted the same thing, but then also decided you needed to post twice, with and without quoting the post you were needlessly replying to yet again. Thanks - there's never enough useless tripe here.

No problem, it was my pleasure.

Robert S. Robbins:

Why do do people interview for jobs at IBM, Microsoft, or Google? You should come to Pennsylvania and interview for jobs with the Amish. They never ask tough technical questions.

Sorry...my manager is Amish, as was the former manager--who now has a software company in Asia. Without getting into all the nuances, I'm a variant of Amish as well. And, yes, technical questions are part of the interview process--though aptitude, interest in quality, and willingness to learn are more important than specific technical skills coming in.

Believe it. :)

Bravo. Very well said.
or... You tell 'em
or... TRUTH!

in any case, trusting your instincts is a really good thing at times like these. A job is a commitment for a really long time...

Robert S. Robbins:

Why do do people interview for jobs at IBM, Microsoft, or Google? You should come to Pennsylvania and interview for jobs with the Amish. They never ask tough technical questions.

and the pies! The sweet, flaky-crusted Amish pies!

Either way you're fixed for life.

chrome:

Phil:

I reckon you should have grabbed a penny from your pocket and aimed at the cleavage. If you land it in there, the job is yours.

Lawsuit, job, they're both the same really.

Either way you're fixed for life.

spinn:

AT:

Third option on the popping-top: Plead that you foolishly drank a large cup of coffee/water/soda just before the interview and you desperately need a quick restroom break. That gives her an opportunity to discover and correct her clothing failure while preserving ambiguity as to whether you actually noticed the spill.

To be honest, I don't think "I need some time alone in the bathroom RIGHT NOW" would really have been the right response, either.

Though a camera equipped phone + bathroom break would be killer.

Andrew:

I worked with a pair of women who would show off some part of their body on purpose. It was part of the interview. It’s a test to see how cool you react. Best to just smile and spend more time looking them in the eyes. Anytime they were able to arouse someone they ended the interview. Their reason was that if you couldn’t handle the pressure of the interview by a hot woman then you’d probably fold under the pressure of you job too.

So their office was staffed entirely by women and gay guys?

Andrew:

Their reason was that if you couldn’t handle the pressure of the interview by a hot woman then you’d probably fold under the pressure of you job too.

Bull. There is a key difference between a hot woman and a stressful job: the latter doesn't have breasts. We're talking totally different degrees of pressure here.

Agreed - Hiring is a two-part process: they need to want you, and you need to want *them*. If their behavior in the interview convinces you that you don't want to work there, excusing yourself saves your time and theirs. (Yes, most recruiters/interviewers tend to be very confused at this point, but that's their problem, not yours.) I've walked out on a couple interviews (generally variations on the group interview / everyone's hired shtick.)

And sadly, it's getting worse: a friend just started a temp job (basic admin ass't work). Turns out they've hired 12 temps, and are narrowing them down reality-show style (here's a project - compete against each other to see who can do it best/fastest). Keep in mind that the job he applied/was hired for was explicitly *temporary* - there was no indication of a possibility of full-time, so the whole thing is pretty amusing at his end (they're tracking and questioning everything in terms of "are you really dedicated to the company"?) Fortunately, he's taking it in good humor (he didn't want the job as full-time anyway, so he doesn't feel the pressure).

I wonder when "Admin Assistant Survivor" will air? (Outfile, out-staple, out-collate?)[/quote]

Do you think dropped enough parens in here? This isn't perl you know!

captcha: nulla - is this a 5GL thang?

LOL< dont you just LOVE big corporatins and all the red tape that comes with them. What a joke.

JJ
http://www.Ultimate-Anonymity.net

Another anonymous (Amish) coward:

Robert S. Robbins:

Why do do people interview for jobs at IBM, Microsoft, or Google? You should come to Pennsylvania and interview for jobs with the Amish. They never ask tough technical questions.

Sorry...my manager is Amish, as was the former manager--who now has a software company in Asia. Without getting into all the nuances, I'm a variant of Amish as well. And, yes, technical questions are part of the interview process--though aptitude, interest in quality, and willingness to learn are more important than specific technical skills coming in.

Believe it. :)

But what about barn-raising?

You mean, I've done all the prep for the interview, got splinters and calluses all over my hands, and now I realise that all I have to do is to wink at the gal opposite me in the interview and say "Hey ... niiiice bonnet! By the way, one or two of your hooks may have slipped."

Well, there go my chances of getting off with Kelly McGillis. A shame, really. If a squirt like Tom Cruise could manage it, I'm sure I can.

James O'Boston:

Robert S. Robbins:

Why do do people interview for jobs at IBM, Microsoft, or Google? You should come to Pennsylvania and interview for jobs with the Amish. They never ask tough technical questions.

and the pies! The sweet, flaky-crusted Amish pies!

and you _never_ have to worry about their blouse-buttons popping open during the interview.

(Ok, I admit that all that I know about the Amish I learned from "Witness".)

Having grown up in Amish country, my observation is that web development is far far easier than working on an Amish farm. Sure, interview to your heart's content. Maybe I can pass your name along to one of the Yoders or Millers I know, and they'll get back to you via email. Or I could pass along their business cell number.

And then it dawned on me: I could just leave.

Could have also resumed after lunch, then stood up after 5 minutes and said "sorry, this isn't the kind of company i'm looking for" and walked out.

AT:

Third option on the popping-top: Plead that you foolishly drank a large cup of coffee/water/soda just before the interview and you desperately need a quick restroom break. That gives her an opportunity to discover and correct her clothing failure while preserving ambiguity as to whether you actually noticed the spill.

Yeah right. She is coming unbuttoned and you ran off to the bathroom all of the sudden. That is going to look much worse!

AT:

Third option on the popping-top: Plead that you foolishly drank a large cup of coffee/water/soda just before the interview and you desperately need a quick restroom break. That gives her an opportunity to discover and correct her clothing failure while preserving ambiguity as to whether you actually noticed the spill.

The trouble with that is she might have thought that you definitely *had* noticed the popping top and had rushed to the restroom for an altogether less salubrious purpose ...

Plead that you foolishly drank a large cup of coffee/water/soda just before the interview and you desperately need a quick restroom break.

Don't you think once see realizes her wardrobe malfunction which you failed to point out to her that her next thought might be your some pervert who clearly would have noticed who has run off to the restroom for a little excitement release??

Still I am not sure there was a right answer for this one!

Any bets on how many "But going to teh restroom is making it look like you're going for a wank" replies are coming^Wposted after this post?

My bet is 7.

I had a interview at a technology development company, with the Manager I would be working for. He started of the interview well with a few searching questions, and then stated that what he really wanted was someone better than his current team...and went on to describe each individual with detailed descriptions of each of their faults and shortcomings.

On my way out I requested to see the HR person again "to clear up a few admin things". I basically told her that I would not be working there no matter how much they might offer because there was no way I would ever work for a Manager who slaggs off his employees to a complete stranger. She gave me a haunted look and said that she'd had a few comments from previous interviewers, and was looking forward to him retiring the following year. Her and the rest of his team I would guess.

The high road story reminds me of one of my own experiences.

I had a high-strung female manager, hot.

She asked me to resolve a production problem. I don't remember exactly why, but it was beyond my skillset at the time.

She wanted a resolution. I was the only one she trusted and I had nothing to offer to the situation.

As she became more desperate, she leaned forward and inadvertently gave me an unobstructed view of her right breast.

I started looking everywhere, except in her direction.

On my subsequent performance review she mentioned my decorum that day. Not fair since I wasn't the one flashing.

情趣用品情趣用品情趣用品情趣用品情趣情趣情趣
情趣按摩棒跳蛋充氣娃娃
情境坊歡愉用品[/url[url=http://www.show688.net/shop/index.php?wid=twjason]情趣用品情人節禮物情惑用品性易構免費A片AV女優美女視訊情色交友免費AV色情網站辣妹視訊美女交友色情影片成人影片成人網站A片H漫18成人成人圖片成人漫畫情色網日本A片免費A片下載性愛成人交友嘟嘟成人網成人電影成人成人貼圖成人小說成人文章成人圖片區免費成人影片成人遊戲微風成人愛情公寓情色情色貼圖情色文學做愛色情聊天室色情小說一葉情貼圖片區情色小說色情寄情築園小遊戲色情遊戲情色視訊情色電影AIO交友愛情館言情小說愛情小說色情A片情色論壇色情影片視訊聊天室免費視訊聊天免費視訊視訊美女視訊交友視訊聊天免費視訊聊天室AIOA片下載AV[url=http://www.ing.net/042]AV片A漫AV DVDAV成人網聊天室成人論壇本土自拍自拍A片

北京seo
加拿大留学
配音
广告配音
专题片配音
课件配音

&nbsp;&nbsp;
货架racking.&nbsp;&nbsp; 仓储货架
南京货架设备要产品包括:重型货架
,阁楼货架,超市Shelf,重量型货架,横梁式货架,驶入式货架... 仓储笼
货架的形式与材料 · 立体仓库 · 货架厂
物流规划设计的步骤与程序（货架的设计... 中国物流行业呈现三足鼎立抢市场 · 亚洲第三方物流的现状和发展 ... 托盘
抽出式货架系列 · 重力式 货架/推入式货架钢托盘
移动式货架 · 阁楼式货架 · 悬臂式货架
系列 长件物料储存货架&nbsp;货架公司。

大阪 デリヘル
仙台 デリヘル
仙台 デリヘル
仙台 デリヘル
家族葬
滋賀 賃貸
アダルト SEO
被リンク
茶道具 買取
絵画 買取
レザー
革小物
クレジットカード　現金化
現金化
ショッピング枠　現金化
クレジットカード　現金化
現金化
ショッピング枠　現金化

キャッシング
大阪　賃貸
中古車 販売
ルームウェア
大阪　マンション
賃貸マンション　神戸
中古　ゴルフクラブ
クールビズ
フィットネスクラブ
大阪府　司法書士
クレジット　申し込み
ベビードール
矯正歯科　東京
ホワイトニング　東京
大阪 ラブホテル
リサイクルショップ
不動産
カードローン
投資 信託
下着
即日 キャッシング
銀行
神戸市　中央区　税理士
FX
消費者金融
ローン
引越し
生命保険
ジェルネイル
人材派遣
ネット証券
アフィリエイト
格安航空券
ウィークリーマンション
レンタカー
SEO
オフィス家具
合宿免許
ペット用品
高速バス
デリヘル
キャバクラ
派遣
コラーゲン
化粧品
インテリア
ウェディング
結婚相談
投資物件
留学
貸事務所 大阪
経営コンサルティング
工芸品
高級品
自動車保険
ホテヘル
レストランウェディング
バイク買取
運転免許
ベビーカー
外反母趾
圧力鍋
腕時計
フェラガモ
デリヘル
キャバクラ
セレブ
プラセンタ
カルシウム
青汁
ブルーベリー
家具
脱毛クリーム
除毛クリーム
コスト削減　大阪
弁護士　大阪
車買取　大阪
バイク買取　大阪
エステ　大阪
リフォーム　大阪
大阪　歯科
派遣　大阪
アルバイト　大阪
転職　大阪
大阪　住宅
大阪　専門学校
グルメ　大阪
ホテル　大阪
一戸建て　大阪
大阪　宿泊
大阪　マンション
デリヘル　大阪
印刷　大阪
不動産　大阪
賃貸　大阪
ブライダル　大阪
リサイクル
アダルト　SEO
賃貸
SEO　大阪
イベント コンパニオン 大阪
転職 大阪
大阪 ラブホ
ペット ショップ 大阪
豆腐
京都 不動産
運転免許 合宿
ヘアアイロン
ダイエット
ダイエット
デリヘル
キャバクラ
シャンパン
老人ホーム
精力剤
大阪 ラブホテル
ブランド品　買取
ワイン
京都 不動産
ペット
リサイクルショップ
歯科求人
結婚式場
バイク便
動物病院
美容整形外科
エルメス

花蓮入口網|花蓮|花蓮民宿|花蓮美食|花蓮消費券|花蓮旅遊|花蓮|花蓮電影|花蓮海洋公園|花蓮遠來飯店|花蓮提拉米蘇|花蓮客運|蜂蜜|花蓮太魯閣|花蓮廣告|花蓮地圖|花蓮旅遊|花蓮民宿|花蓮房屋|花蓮旅遊景點|花蓮汽車|花蓮餐廳|花蓮旅館|花蓮瑞穗牧場|花蓮名產|花蓮民宿|花蓮租屋|花蓮理想大地|花蓮民宿|花蓮廣告

仙台デリヘル
仙台デリヘル
デリヘル仙台
仙台中古車販売
仙台ホームページ制作
仙台風俗デリバリーヘルス

http://www.tiffanysale.co.uk/
http://www.jewelrygucci.com
http://www.ustiffanyjewelry.com
http://www.bestguccishoes.com/
http://www.gucci-stores.com/
http://www.uktiffanyjewellery.co.uk
http://www.handbagon.com/
http://www.louisvuittonfr.com/
http://www.tiffanygifts.co.uk
http://www.wmbags.com/
http://www.chanel-jewelry.com

Having spent nearly a year in the hell-hole that is IBM, I can unequivocally state that the "IBM survivor" did the right thing.

find for all kinds of watches and women handbags

A Lange & Sohne watches
http://replica038.com/a-lange-sohne-watches.html

Audemars Piguet watches
http://replica038.com/audemars-piguet-watches.html

Ulysse Nardin watches
http://replica038.com/ulysse-nardin-watches.html

Vacheron Constantin watches
http://replica038.com/vacheron-constantin-watches.html

ye, it's called Assessment Center and IBM is still doing this because it's "objective". no tools just lots of paper.