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The rejection had taken three months to arrive, and now somebody, somewhere, owed Luis K an explanation. [expand full text]
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Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:06 • by Vincent (unregistered)
So wait.. he rejected himself?

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:07 • by henke37
Something tells me that this will not be dealt with face-to-face.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:07 • by Ian (unregistered)
Obviously he only stamped it 4 times. He should be demoted.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:09 • by steenbergh
Damn, that (aggregated) organisation is one ball of twine... Wonder what they're developing/maintaining and how that'll look under the hood.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:09 • by Bunchoo (unregistered)
He'll need to file permit A38 next.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:13 • by AndrewB (unregistered)
Sooo... The protagonist is forgetful? That's the punch line? Oh I get it. He works under such a complicated bureaucracy that his head is constantly spinning and he couldn't possibly be expected to remember what he did three months ago.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:15 • by Jason (unregistered)
This is taken from Brazil. Sometimes I feel my workplace is a little like this...

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:19 • by highphilosopher (unregistered)
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steenbergh:
Damn, that (aggregated) organisation is one ball of twine... Wonder what they're developing/maintaining and how that'll look under the hood.


You cannot question the use of the software without filing an a3c-44 form. This form esures that you are held liable for any intellectual property leaked from this company.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:24 • by Another Brazilian Guy (unregistered)
297775 in reply to 297772
Jason:
This is taken from Brazil. Sometimes I feel my workplace is a little like this...


Funny that I was thinking exactly the same (even the name "Luis" is spelled the same in portuguese.)

I used to work for the state government in Brazil and it was mostly the same as the related on this story.

Thankfully I left that hellhole a couple of years ago!

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:25 • by hdgdl (unregistered)
Damn, this makes Dilbert look funny.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:26 • by Spudley (unregistered)
I'm pretty certain I read a Dilbert comic once that had a very similar punchline.

(not to say it isn't true, because the scary thing is that most of Dilbert is true.... it's just also very very funy... in a scary sort of way)

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:26 • by rewind (unregistered)
+1 for the img.
+5 for a more original theme.

Be careful for the TPS Report Cover Page that you forget, for the TPS Report Cover Page may forget you.

captcha:
immitto = I'm me too. Rather self-reflective and existentialist. I will ponder this all day.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:36 • by Jim the Electrician (unregistered)
Wow, this works on two levels - not only is the problem in the story the same person as the one looking for the problem, but also the submitter of the story is the same individual who comes out looking bad from the story. (Not to mention that the author of this comment comes out looking bad from having posted it...)

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:37 • by frits
Vern from Accounting can give you clarification, but nobody ever sees him. KnoWhutImean?

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:37 • by Pretty good (unregistered)
Some have disparaged this a bit, but there are two nice WTFs in this one.

First, that he rejected his own request. Second, that it took three months, through some arcane and tortous bureaucracy, to get there while adding zero value.

Nice

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:44 • by Anom (unregistered)
297783 in reply to 297775
The movie. Not the Country :P

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:47 • by Thg (unregistered)
Battle not with WTFs lest ye become a WTF; and if you gaze into the WTF, the WTF gazes into you.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:49 • by bryan986
How many times do they have to tell him to submit a 27b-6 before he actually does?

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:51 • by Jugis (unregistered)
So he can request and approve any new feature he wants? "Maybe I needing later..."

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:51 • by Anon (unregistered)
297787 in reply to 297775
Another Brazilian Guy:
Jason:
This is taken from Brazil. Sometimes I feel my workplace is a little like this...


Funny that I was thinking exactly the same (even the name "Luis" is spelled the same in portuguese.)

I used to work for the state government in Brazil and it was mostly the same as the related on this story.

Thankfully I left that hellhole a couple of years ago!


The film Brazil, not the Country

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:54 • by Right Wing-Nut (unregistered)
297788 in reply to 297785
bryan986:
How many times do they have to tell him to submit a 27b-6 before he actually does?


THEY can tell him all they want. THEY are just mindless functionaries.

Now, when HE tells someone to file a 27b-6, well, that's different.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:56 • by ais523
I hope the bit about encoding dates in hex is real and not just made up for flavour or anonymisation; that's a whole new level of WTF right there.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 09:56 • by Ramses So let it be written so let it be done (unregistered)
The Battle of Hastings!

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:00 • by jonnyq
Luis writes the code.
Luis rejected himself.
That's bureaucracy.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:02 • by SR (unregistered)
Is Luis K a relative of Josef K?

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:03 • by Steve the Cynic (unregistered)
This reminds me of a play I read many years ago, by John Irwin. It was called The Parrocrat, a not-so-gentle satire on British bureaucrats. The protagonist keeps parrots, but is also a relatively senior civil servant responsible for some sort of approval process related to parrot-keeping. He is frustrated in his private life because of the difficulty of getting approval for something he wants to do. As the play progresses, we see him pushing the approval request higher and higher up the chain of responsibility in his own department, until it eventually reaches his own desk.

((SPOILER, although it is a very obscure play from the early 1960s, so you are unlikely to encounter it))

So complete in his mind is the separation between work activity and hobby activity that (a) he bothered to play the bureaucratic game pushing this request up through a pile of his own subordinates, and (b) he rejects the request without realising that it came from himself.

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Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:05 • by NSCoder
Luis K neds a card.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:06 • by Vlad Patryshev (unregistered)
This is brilliant. This is Kafka.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:07 • by Anonymous Coward (unregistered)
Holy CRAP! Is that...no...it can't be...is that...an honest to God, PUNCHLINE?!?!?

Kudos to whoever filled out the 24601EZ punchline requisition form; this one made me chuckle. I've almost done this myself on a ticket I'd written months before, but caught my name at just before clicking apply.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:14 • by Another Brazilian Guy (unregistered)
297800 in reply to 297787
Anon:
Another Brazilian Guy:
Jason:
This is taken from Brazil. Sometimes I feel my workplace is a little like this...


Funny that I was thinking exactly the same (even the name "Luis" is spelled the same in portuguese.)

I used to work for the state government in Brazil and it was mostly the same as the related on this story.

Thankfully I left that hellhole a couple of years ago!


The film Brazil, not the Country


Clearly, the film was inspired in the country!!!

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:21 • by Crash Magnet (unregistered)
297802 in reply to 297800
Another Brazilian Guy:
Anon:
Another Brazilian Guy:
Jason:
This is taken from Brazil. Sometimes I feel my workplace is a little like this...


Funny that I was thinking exactly the same (even the name "Luis" is spelled the same in portuguese.)

I used to work for the state government in Brazil and it was mostly the same as the related on this story.

Thankfully I left that hellhole a couple of years ago!


The film Brazil, not the Country


Clearly, the film was inspired in the country!!!


But, was the country inspired by the film?

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:22 • by Hermes (unregistered)
Great gorilla of Manilla! A letter from the Central Bureaucracy.
"Attention, Hermes Conrad. You are about to receive a letter from the Central Bureaucracy."
Oh, my God! It's from the Central Bureaucracy!

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:23 • by Matt (unregistered)
Luis is technically correct... the best kind of correct :)

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:23 • by Spork
It's nice to see that protocol is being followed by mypasttself. Myfutureself will be annoyed, but what has he done for me lately?

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:24 • by Bub (unregistered)
....and people wonder why there are workplace spree killers....

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:26 • by RFairey (unregistered)
297808 in reply to 297770
Bunchoo:
He'll need to file permit A38 next.


He must be working in the Hausdorff that Sends You Mad.

Why not try the new circular B-39?

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:30 • by Griphon (unregistered)
297809 in reply to 297802
No, the title was inspired by the song. The movie had nothing to do with the country.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:31 • by Downfall (unregistered)
This is actually standard practice in embedded systems, when there's no file system to record 27b-6s. It's no big deal.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:34 • by bearda
297811 in reply to 297771
AndrewB:
Sooo... The protagonist is forgetful? That's the punch line? Oh I get it. He works under such a complicated bureaucracy that his head is constantly spinning and he couldn't possibly be expected to remember what he did three months ago.


I have a feeling this is more of a case of obfuscating killing the punchline. If Luis K had only been with the company a week when he discovered the problem is seems unlikely he would have been the one to reject it three months prior. It seems more likely that Mr. Fischer did.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:34 • by Seminymous Coward (unregistered)
He violated the Golden Rule, treating (who he thought was) another person as he would not himself wish to be treated. He is also clearly not big on understanding questions before answering them. He is TRWTF.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:37 • by Frzr (unregistered)
297813 in reply to 297777
Spudley:
I'm pretty certain I read a Dilbert comic once that had a very similar punchline.

(not to say it isn't true, because the scary thing is that most of Dilbert is true.... it's just also very very funy... in a scary sort of way)


Boss to Dilbert:

Do you remember when the company president visited? You asked why your project had been cancelled.

He promised to get an answer. That task has been delegated all the way back down to me.

I'd like you to craft a response for me. You'll have to put your new project on hold until this is done.

Wonder who's going to end up processing that request?

2010-02-02 10:39 • by DaveK
After a few moments, Luis swept the fragments of his mind off his desk, and dutifully filled in a 27b-6.
NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo <slo-mo diving save> you'll start a time-loop ... time-loop ... time-loop ... time-loop ...

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:41 • by Another Brazilian Guy (unregistered)
297815 in reply to 297809
Griphon:
No, the title was inspired by the song. The movie had nothing to do with the country.


Well, it did... even if unintentionally... the stupid bureaucracy.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:53 • by steenbergh
297817 in reply to 297809
Griphon:
No, the title was inspired by the song. The movie had nothing to do with the country.


I think I'll wait for the book ...

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:54 • by SenTree
297818 in reply to 297811
bearda:
I have a feeling this is more of a case of obfuscating killing the punchline. If Luis K had only been with the company a week when he discovered the problem is seems unlikely he would have been the one to reject it three months prior. It seems more likely that Mr. Fischer did.

Read the article more carefully.

He discovered the missing feature on his first day and submitted a change request. It took three months for the rejection to make its way back to him. At one and a half months into that process, he had received the change request and rejected it.

Seems perfectly clear. And an excellent WTF.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:57 • by Nibh (unregistered)
297819 in reply to 297766
Information Transit got the wrong man. I got the right man. The wrong one was delivered to me as the right man, I accepted him on good faith as the right man. Was I wrong?

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 10:57 • by 1.0 (unregistered)
297820 in reply to 297768
Bring me the forms I need to fill out to have him taken away!

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 11:04 • by dkAllen (unregistered)
297821 in reply to 297766
This reminds me of the story my boss used to tell me about his time with an engineering firm (a conglomerate, really) with a name which rhymes with "Rectal" - seems they filed suit against some company or other in South America for right-of-way. Half-way through the trail, the "Rectal" Engineering discovered they owned (through a torturous maze of subsidiaries) the smaller company which they were suing.

End of lawsuit.

It takes a lot of bureaucracy to sue yourself. And for some reason, we're back in SA again, probably in Brazil.

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 11:16 • by Cliff notes anyone (unregistered)
That story could have been told in half hte words. My head is spinning just like Louis'

Re: Passed Around

2010-02-02 11:18 • by Ross (unregistered)
It's a good thing he wasn't on fire. This whole system of his could be on fire and no one could even turn on the kitchen tap without filling out a twenty-seven B stroke six... bloody paperwork.
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