Comment On Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

"It's that time of year again," Robert Rossegger wrote, "you know, when the underpowered air conditioner just can't cope with the non-winter weather? Fortunately, we have a solution for that... and all we need to do is just keep an extra eye on people walking near the (completely ajar) server room door." [expand full text]
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Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 08:19 • by ParkinT
Network cable is more universally useful than Duct Tape!
* It can carry high-energy signals
* It can carry the weight of unmounted equipment

{It can also secure a 6-ft aluminum ladder to the roof rack of your truck}

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 09:03 • by Valerion (unregistered)
My garden fence is currently secured with a nice long length of CAT5. I don't see the problem, my wife isn't so keen though.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 09:06 • by Studley (unregistered)
At least the Manhattan hotel understood Dan's concerns, hence the "WE PAIN" sign.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 09:09 • by Gyxi (unregistered)
The extension cords are so much more effective than trip wires, since there will be a visual indication that someone is intruding in the server room, as the company website will go offline.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 09:10 • by Nagesh (unregistered)
Here is view from my apartment:



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Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 09:12 • by Robert (unregistered)
383082 in reply to 383076
ParkinT:
Network cable is more universally useful than Duct Tape!
* It can carry high-energy signals
* It can carry the weight of unmounted equipment

{It can also secure a 6-ft aluminum ladder to the roof rack of your truck}


Yea but can you make a boat or a cannon out of it?

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 09:21 • by Nagesh (unregistered)
383083 in reply to 383082
Robert:
ParkinT:
Network cable is more universally useful than Duct Tape!
* It can carry high-energy signals
* It can carry the weight of unmounted equipment

{It can also secure a 6-ft aluminum ladder to the roof rack of your truck}


Yea but can you make a boat or a cannon out of it?

Ain't

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 09:21 • by honnza (unregistered)
383084 in reply to 383080
Gyxi:
The extension cords are so much more effective than trip wires, since there will be a visual indication that someone is intruding in the server room, as the company website will go offline.

...which might be a good reason to intrude the server room.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 09:26 • by Steve The Cynic
If you substitute the actual meaning of "ajar", the first one becomes a bit weird...

"completely not quite shut"...

I think the writer means "completely open" or even "wide open"...

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 09:34 • by ¯\(°_o)/¯ I DUNNO LOL (unregistered)
On the positive side, at least the fire marshal can't ding them for using daisy-chained extension cords. I think.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 09:53 • by Woody (unregistered)
"Also, this is what passes for a server rack at this particular software company. Yes, it's made of wood."

You wish. It's almost certainly uber-cheap particle board thinly veneered with low-grade Formica. Cheap people buy stuff like this at Wal-Mart to put collapsable (self-collapsing) shelving into their closets.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 09:58 • by Dzov (unregistered)
In the first pic, they are just utilizing a Redundant Array of Inexpensive Fans (RAIF) as obviously the original single a/c fan has either failed or is too expensive to replace.

As for the switch on the warehouse column, there's a max length of 100 meters for ethernet segments, so feel free to move the switch to some room along the wall and have everything fail.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 10:07 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
383092 in reply to 383078
Valerion:
My garden fence is currently secured with a nice long length of CAT5. I don't see the problem, my wife isn't so keen though.


Well duh... you didn't use CAT5e! Now your fence just looks cheap and outdated.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 10:10 • by Ken (unregistered)
As someone who used to work IT for several steel mills/metal shops, the switch bolted to a column isn't surprising. I've seen similar setups with wireless switches - the thing to keep in mind is that in a METAL shop, there is not only a lot of METAL, but billions of dollars worth of some pretty advanced electronics and machinery, and they aren't all necessarily properly shielded.

The reason for what you're seeing in that last picture is because of the amount of interference in the area. In fact, the column itself probably blocks all access from that side of the router, so there's probably another one not far from there in that direction. You're lucky to get 50 yards out of even high-end wireless access points, and they don't exactly take that sort of thing into account when architecting a shop, so you're left with bolted-to-a-column as the absolute best you can do.

Even if that's not a wireless switch (I can't tell, doesn't look like it but maybe the router isn't shown) I would blame the fact that the building was probably architected before the advent of networked computers (and nobody wants to pay for the correct solution) in an industrial setting.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 10:12 • by PedanticCurmudgeon
383095 in reply to 383081
Nagesh:
Here is view from my apartment:


Ain't being a good idea for power company to massage a new connections. Also, askimet is being scarecrow ruining my post's good name!!! Go elsewhere askimet! Go!
Ain't it time for you to go massage a scarecrow?

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 10:16 • by frits
It's cool, everybody. That "wet paint" sign should keep people away.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 10:22 • by QJo
383097 in reply to 383096
frits:
It's cool, everybody. That "wet paint" sign should keep people away.

I was going to suggest: be careful what you do if you decide to follow that particular instruction, otherwise you may get a nasty shock directly to a sensitive part of your anatomy.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 10:36 • by Spoe (unregistered)
383098 in reply to 383076
I used it secure the front bumper to my car after a fender bender until I got it to the repair shop.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 10:57 • by Loren Pechtel
The first one doesn't surprise me one bit. The telcos deny water in the wires issues unless you manage to hold their noses in it like he did with that photo.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 11:14 • by That guy? (unregistered)
383100 in reply to 383092
You plebeians are still using CAT5e? We upgraded all our fences to CAT6 years ago.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 11:26 • by KattMan
383101 in reply to 383100
That guy?:
You plebeians are still using CAT5e? We upgraded all our fences to CAT6 years ago.


The lady down the street has at least 20 cats in her house.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 11:35 • by Sam I am (unregistered)
We Pain

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 11:40 • by wonk (unregistered)
400 percent more awesome! Also, Torgue doesn't make their server racks out of freakin' wood!

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 11:49 • by t3rminus (unregistered)
383104 in reply to 383103
wonk:
400 percent more awesome! Also, Torgue doesn't make their server racks out of freakin' wood!


Woo! Someone here plays Borderlands!

Captcha: bene-- your post was molto bene

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 12:35 • by alegr
383108 in reply to 383091
Dzov:
In the first pic, they are just utilizing a Redundant Array of Inexpensive Fans (RAIF) as obviously the original single a/c fan has either failed or is too expensive to replace.

Inexpensive Fans, also known as Groupies.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 12:40 • by ShatteredArm
383109 in reply to 383086
Steve The Cynic:
If you substitute the actual meaning of "ajar", the first one becomes a bit weird...

"completely not quite shut"...

I think the writer means "completely open" or even "wide open"...


Glad I'm not the only one who had an issue with the term "completely ajar."

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 12:42 • by Mike (unregistered)
383110 in reply to 383099
Loren Pechtel:
The first one doesn't surprise me one bit. The telcos deny water in the wires issues unless you manage to hold their noses in it like he did with that photo.


Ah yes, telco companies... where quality is job #... um, 42?

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 12:49 • by M (unregistered)
383111 in reply to 383110
Mike:
Loren Pechtel:
The first one doesn't surprise me one bit. The telcos deny water in the wires issues unless you manage to hold their noses in it like he did with that photo.


Ah yes, telco companies... where quality is impossible


FTFY

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 12:56 • by D-Coder
383112 in reply to 383078
Valerion:
My garden fence is currently secured with a nice long length of CAT5. I don't see the problem, my wife isn't so keen though.
Don't you mean "$CAT5"?

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 13:15 • by Carl (unregistered)
that drive is actually earmarked for 'off-site backup'
Well, you know, the drive is not 'off-site' while the backup is being made! So what's your WTF? You want them to buy a CPU case that has extra room inside for the occasional insertion of the backup drive?

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 13:19 • by Jack (unregistered)
383115 in reply to 383081
Nagesh:
Here is view from my apartment:
Fake! You don't have an apartment! You probably share a vermin-infested hovel with 20 of your closest family, friends, their lovers, kids, and assorted animals. That's not counting the starving people who sleep on the street outside your cardboard-box door.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 13:44 • by M (unregistered)
383117 in reply to 383114
Carl:
that drive is actually earmarked for 'off-site backup'
Well, you know, the drive is not 'off-site' while the backup is being made! So what's your WTF? You want them to buy a CPU case that has extra room inside for the occasional insertion of the backup drive?


Perhaps it's because the drive is dangling from a cable...

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 14:01 • by Evan (unregistered)
383119 in reply to 383117
M:
Carl:
that drive is actually earmarked for 'off-site backup'
Well, you know, the drive is not 'off-site' while the backup is being made! So what's your WTF? You want them to buy a CPU case that has extra room inside for the occasional insertion of the backup drive?


Perhaps it's because the drive is dangling from a cable...

I think Carl's post was sarcasm. At least I hope it was.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 14:13 • by Nagesh (unregistered)
383120 in reply to 383115
Jack:
Nagesh:
Here is view from my apartment:
Fake! You don't have an apartment! You probably share a vermin-infested hovel with 20 of your closest family, friends, their lovers, kids, and assorted animals. That's not counting the starving people who sleep on the street outside your cardboard-box door.

Ain't that what arpartment is?

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 14:50 • by Malfist (unregistered)
383121 in reply to 383120
Nagesh:
Jack:
Nagesh:
Here is view from my apartment:
Fake! You don't have an apartment! You probably share a vermin-infested hovel with 20 of your closest family, friends, their lovers, kids, and assorted animals. That's not counting the starving people who sleep on the street outside your cardboard-box door.

Ain't that what arpartment is?


Fake Nagesh is fake. Nagesh wouldn't use the word, "ain't"

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 15:27 • by Coder (unregistered)
383123 in reply to 383121
Sure he would. "Ain't" is now an accepted part of Fake Nagesh's vocabulary.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 15:43 • by Nagesh (unregistered)
383124 in reply to 383123
Coder:
Sure he would. "Ain't" is now an accepted part of Fake Nagesh's vocabulary.

Seems like proper word to me. Askimet, mattersharter! Let me post url!

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 16:35 • by Larry Sheldon (unregistered)
Back in the days when A computer occupied most of a floor in and office building (and it's power plant most of the basement of a nearby building) The Supreme Know-it-all manager in dead seriousness wanted to buy a lot of window air conditioners to be installed on chairs sitting around the computer room for the days when the undersized A/C plant failed (which it did with infinite predictability in San Jose's quite predictable hot weather).

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 16:49 • by Ted (unregistered)
383126 in reply to 383125
Larry Sheldon:
Back in the days when A computer occupied most of a floor in and office building (and it's power plant most of the basement of a nearby building) The Supreme Know-it-all manager in dead seriousness wanted to buy a lot of window air conditioners to be installed on chairs sitting around the computer room for the days when the undersized A/C plant failed (which it did with infinite predictability in San Jose's quite predictable hot weather).
See? This proves that it is not merely in I.T. that people don't (want to bother to) understand how things work.

I've known a lot of people who seem to think an air conditioner "makes cold" rather than "pumps heat from side A to side B (generating extra waste heat in the process)". If they had the latter understanding, they would know it is a negative benefit to put side A and side B in the same room.

But it is just magical thinking. "AC magic cold box hur durr! Create cold from nothing, cold good!"

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 17:44 • by Fake Fake Nagesh (unregistered)
383127 in reply to 383124
Nagesh:
Coder:
Sure he would. "Ain't" is now an accepted part of Fake Nagesh's vocabulary.

Seems like proper word to me. Askimet, mattersharter! Let me post url!


But it ain't true that ain't are not being proper Englishes? If so, why English English people use ain't?

Silly English language-users ain't be knowing own language use!

CAPTCHA: valetudo - A song about valets.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 18:09 • by Zemm
383128 in reply to 383126
Ted:
I've known a lot of people who seem to think an air conditioner "makes cold" rather than "pumps heat from side A to side B (generating extra waste heat in the process)". If they had the latter understanding, they would know it is a negative benefit to put side A and side B in the same room.


Even cheaper he could just use a Korean fan in the sealed server room to make it nice and frosty!

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 18:11 • by Zemm
That second one could have come from this!

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 18:36 • by Jason (unregistered)
A "visually similar" search to the water-filled telecom vault came up with this one, I'm amazed we haven't seen a story about it here yet.

http://www.fynder.eu/Elenos%20Always%20on%20air.jpg

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 19:24 • by Friedrice the Great (unregistered)
383133 in reply to 383099
Loren Pechtel:
The first one doesn't surprise me one bit. The telcos deny water in the wires issues unless you manage to hold their noses in it like he did with that photo.


Worked in commercial property management once. One office building we owned was the first property on the feed from the power plant. Everytime the power plant switched loads around, it sent a surge through the lines. A few surges later, the large capacitors that formed part of the elevator system would die at a cost of $5000 each.

Local power company wouldn't do a thing about it until we put a power monitor on the building for a year, and gave them a report correlating their power surges with our dead capacitors.

Worthless things, central power companies.

captcha: tristique - a boutique where you buy gourmet Triscuits?

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 22:36 • by Cheong (unregistered)
The photo submitted by Matt actually isn't much WTF. I've see a few of similar configuration in China.

If you don't place expensive equipments this high, someday you'll be likely to find them missing...

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-13 23:02 • by Luiz Felipe (unregistered)
383135 in reply to 383128
Zemm:
Ted:
I've known a lot of people who seem to think an air conditioner "makes cold" rather than "pumps heat from side A to side B (generating extra waste heat in the process)". If they had the latter understanding, they would know it is a negative benefit to put side A and side B in the same room.


Even cheaper he could just use a Korean fan in the sealed server room to make it nice and frosty!


I have a fan running 24/7 by two year now, and hasnt died yet.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-14 02:25 • by Coyne
"Poor switch", Matt? Take a look at that switch in Dan's picture: Now that is a pathetically maltreated switch.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-14 04:32 • by blither (unregistered)
Fan Death warning! That first pic looks DEADLY, I tell you!

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-14 08:11 • by Geoff (unregistered)
383139 in reply to 383093
I have seen that one often as well, actually I have done it myself. Sometimes you just have to make some compromises. As you say lots stuff on shop floors is not well shields and the runs can get quite long, so you are looking at fiber and then STP along the benches. You have terminate the fiber in something, might as well be switch. So you now you are looking at installing bulky wall racks all over the place or what you see in the picture.

Yes, without some filter cloth and and enclosure, and being mounted on its side its probably going die young, but even replacing it a little higher frequency is cheaper and better than the alternatives.

Re: Server Room Fans and More Server Room Fun

2012-06-14 09:12 • by memesiaup (unregistered)
383140 in reply to 383081
Where is it? :O
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