Comment On The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

The Denny's Interview (from Bruce W) Not too long ago, "TaxQuik" announced major layoffs at the company, and I found myself to be one of the unfortunate few to be without a job. Nervous about being out of work, I found myself responding to just about every job posting that was remotely related to technology. Including a Monster job ad for a "Web site developer". [expand full text]
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Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 09:10 • by Rodnas (unregistered)
Yeah, i know. Our company is looking for a programmer/assasin. The assasin skills are needed to get rid of those pesky customers who are complaining that the software is full of bugs.

!fist

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 09:10 • by Drew (unregistered)
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Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 09:14 • by jvanderb
TRWTF is that the bounce message has someone's resume on it!

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 09:15 • by Altair (unregistered)
293009 in reply to 293006
Rodnas:
Yeah, i know. Our company is looking for a programmer/assasin. The assasin skills are needed to get rid of those pesky customers who are complaining that the software is full of bugs.

!fist


What's your HR email address, I think I'd be perfect for that position.

My assassination skills are a bit rusty, but I'm working on it.

Captcha: Similis, sounds painful

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 09:21 • by Wolfan (unregistered)
Why not just pay the Network Engineer to go get his CDL?

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 09:22 • by dpm
Gloves.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 09:26 • by Beaudetious (unregistered)
I never interviewed at a Denny's but I did once have a meeting with a potential client over dinner at the Cracker Barrel. And she paid for it.

However, I never did hear back from her (probably a good thing on my part). Maybe I should have picked a better restaurant?

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 09:27 • by toth
in the mid-to-late 80's & mdash;


Whitespace, you've screwed over yet another poor soul.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 09:28 • by galgorah
293014 in reply to 293006
Rodnas:
Yeah, i know. Our company is looking for a programmer/assasin. The assasin skills are needed to get rid of those pesky customers who are complaining that the software is full of bugs.

!fist
I am quite well versed in both professions. We will never meet. All fund will be direct deposited into a swiss bank acount. Upon reciept of money I will fix the bug and "Dispose()" of the target.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 09:30 • by NoAstronomer (unregistered)
293015 in reply to 293010
Wolfan:
Why not just pay the Network Engineer to go get his CDL?


Because that would like, you know, cost money and stuff. Besides once they were trained they'd probably quit and go work as a bus-driver.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 09:32 • by Will (unregistered)
I thought for sure that the bus driver/programmer story was going to end with him driving away with the fire hose data cable still attached.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 09:37 • by Unknown User (unregistered)
The last one was funny, but isn't as far-fetched as it sounds. At my university, but campus bus drivers were students. Those buses weren't double-deckers, but they were huge. If the students didn't already need a CDL to operate them, they would at least have had the experience to get one easily. I am sure that there was a computer science / bus driver out there somewhere.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 09:42 • by Aaron
Errr, I believe that the "ride share" concept is for people who all have cars. You find two (or more) people who live and work relatively close together and set up a sort of carpool. Of course it doesn't have to be work, it could be any engagement (say the gym).

It's not a tool for any schmoe to bum a ride, and it's not even remotely like taking a bus. If anything, it's like taking a taxi, but for a tiny fraction of the cost. You split the cost of gas and if you're lucky get 30 minutes of decent conversation instead of road rage.

The real problem is the number of free sites that already do the same thing (minus the background checks, which seems like a marginal benefit at best). The service is useful, just generally not very profitable, and works best on an ad-supported model.

Or maybe TRWTF was that the guy was really trying to run it like a bus service instead of a carpool service. It wasn't very clear.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 09:50 • by John (unregistered)
Oddly enough, I am a computer programmer with commercial bus driving experience. The busses at my college were all driven by students. It was a great part time job.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 09:57 • by Jeff Jason (unregistered)
293020 in reply to 293017
Hey there,

A guy I work with just alerted me to this post because I am a software developer with a CDL and CS degree!

I went to the University of Massachusetts at Amherst and we have a bus system with approx 120 student drivers. We trained each one of them to get their CDLs and, like any organization with 150+ employees, we have an IT/MIS department. With the decently cheap student workforce of educated people we realized that we could produce a lot of our own in-house software for a relatively low price. So over time that MIS department has turned into a little php/ruby bus driver/programmer production factory.

I am one of at least 5 developers with a CDL that have come out of there in the last 5 years.

:-)

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:00 • by snoofle
293021 in reply to 293006
Rodnas:
Yeah, i know. Our company is looking for a programmer/assasin. The assasin skills are needed to get rid of those pesky customers who are complaining that the software is full of bugs.

!fist
Dear Sir, I feel that I would be perfect for the role of programmer/assassin. I would be happy to demonstrate my programming skills on your computer and my assassin-skills, on you...

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:04 • by Grovesy (unregistered)
293022 in reply to 293014
galgorah:
Rodnas:
Yeah, i know. Our company is looking for a programmer/assasin. The assasin skills are needed to get rid of those pesky customers who are complaining that the software is full of bugs.

!fist
I am quite well versed in both professions. We will never meet. All fund will be direct deposited into a swiss bank acount. Upon reciept of money I will fix the bug and "Dispose()" of the target.


Only if you can Guarantee ~Target()

/groan

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:07 • by connect2reality (unregistered)
Why not hire a bus driver and network analyst separately?

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:16 • by Mortal (unregistered)
Want to hire dual cla.ssing programmer/herbalist min 400, pm me

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:25 • by iToad (unregistered)
293025 in reply to 293015
NoAstronomer:
Wolfan:
Why not just pay the Network Engineer to go get his CDL?


Because that would like, you know, cost money and stuff. Besides once they were trained they'd probably quit and go work as a bus-driver.



With better pay, better hours, and no emergency phone calls in the middle of the night.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:25 • by iToad (unregistered)
293026 in reply to 293015
NoAstronomer:
Wolfan:
Why not just pay the Network Engineer to go get his CDL?


Because that would like, you know, cost money and stuff. Besides once they were trained they'd probably quit and go work as a bus-driver.



With better pay, better hours, and no emergency phone calls in the middle of the night.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:35 • by JL (unregistered)
"The Automated Interview" matches my experience of the reading-for-comprehension skills of HR people.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:35 • by Vollhorst (unregistered)
293028 in reply to 293022
Grovesy:
galgorah:
Rodnas:
Yeah, i know. Our company is looking for a programmer/assasin. The assasin skills are needed to get rid of those pesky customers who are complaining that the software is full of bugs.

!fist
I am quite well versed in both professions. We will never meet. All fund will be direct deposited into a swiss bank acount. Upon reciept of money I will fix the bug and "Dispose()" of the target.


Only if you can Guarantee ~Target()

/groan
Calling the destructor of an object does not delete it...

/yawn

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:38 • by Stephen (unregistered)
The CDL/network engineer doesn't seem all that far-fetched to me. I for one have a class A CDL, since I drove a truck before becoming a network administrator and now developer.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:41 • by evilspoons
293030 in reply to 293026
iToad:
NoAstronomer:
Wolfan:
Why not just pay the Network Engineer to go get his CDL?


Because that would like, you know, cost money and stuff. Besides once they were trained they'd probably quit and go work as a bus-driver.



With better pay, better hours, and no emergency phone calls in the middle of the night.


And if it's anything like the transit system in my city (my dad was a bus driver for 35 years) - retarded management that doesn't allow bus drivers to properly enforce management's rules (fare collection? HA!), the overwhelming impression from the public that you're an asshole before you've done anything good or bad, and the constant threat of the passengers themselves. My dad retired early - another driver who started the same time as him recently made national news because he was beat within an inch of his life by an arrogant, drunk prick of a passenger.

Nitpick time: it is not "80's", unless the number 80 is possessing something ("robot 80's terrible decision led him to the brink of sanity").

And I'll let Bob the Angry Flower carry us out:
http://angryflower.com/aposter.html

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:43 • by Quicksilver
293031 in reply to 293009
Altair:
Rodnas:
Yeah, i know. Our company is looking for a programmer/assasin. The assasin skills are needed to get rid of those pesky customers who are complaining that the software is full of bugs.

!fist


What's your HR email address, I think I'd be perfect for that position.

My assassination skills are a bit rusty, but I'm working on it.

Captcha: Similis, sounds painful


May be we could Team up ...
My hacking skills are a bit rusty, though my assasination skills are top notch.

I am usually working alone though this could be an educating experience.

J.C.Denton

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:48 • by Garbage Collector (unregistered)
293032 in reply to 293028
Vollhorst:
Grovesy:
galgorah:
Rodnas:
Yeah, i know. Our company is looking for a programmer/assasin. The assasin skills are needed to get rid of those pesky customers who are complaining that the software is full of bugs.

!fist
I am quite well versed in both professions. We will never meet. All fund will be direct deposited into a swiss bank acount. Upon reciept of money I will fix the bug and "Dispose()" of the target.


Only if you can Guarantee ~Target()

/groan
Calling the destructor of an object does not delete it...

/yawn


When you're an assassin, sometimes your client doesn't want the destructed object deleted. Instead, it's supposed to be left in a prominent place in the heap "to send a message".

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:50 • by My Name? (unregistered)
293033 in reply to 293028
Vollhorst:
Grovesy:
galgorah:
Rodnas:
Yeah, i know. Our company is looking for a programmer/assasin. The assasin skills are needed to get rid of those pesky customers who are complaining that the software is full of bugs.

!fist
I am quite well versed in both professions. We will never meet. All fund will be direct deposited into a swiss bank acount. Upon reciept of money I will fix the bug and "Dispose()" of the target.


Only if you can Guarantee ~Target()

/groan
Calling the destructor of an object does not delete it...

/yawn


Right. Only the soul of that poor and unfortunate object is being deleted. The body is still there.


Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:52 • by Whitespace (unregistered)
293034 in reply to 293013
toth:
in the mid-to-late 80's & mdash;


Whitespace, you've screwed over yet another poor soul.


Hey, I had an '87 Oldsmobile Mdash back in the day. It's not my fault that guy jumped off the curb and under my wheels! I miss that car, I hated having to get rid of it when they started looking for whoever hit that guy.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:57 • by anon (unregistered)
293035 in reply to 293008
jvanderb:
TRWTF is that the bounce message has someone's resume on it!


Just because the agency mentions a resume it doesn't mean one was attached. Have you never dealt with with a recruiter?

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:58 • by bjolling
293036 in reply to 293028
Vollhorst:
Grovesy:
galgorah:
Rodnas:
Yeah, i know. Our company is looking for a programmer/assasin. The assasin skills are needed to get rid of those pesky customers who are complaining that the software is full of bugs.

!fist
I am quite well versed in both professions. We will never meet. All fund will be direct deposited into a swiss bank acount. Upon reciept of money I will fix the bug and "Dispose()" of the target.


Only if you can Guarantee ~Target()

/groan
Calling the destructor of an object does not delete it...

/yawn
Destructor? I thought he was talking about a C++\CLI finalizer.

~~ Third try ~~

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 10:59 • by My Name? (unregistered)
293037 in reply to 293034
Whitespace:
toth:
in the mid-to-late 80's & mdash;


Whitespace, you've screwed over yet another poor soul.


Hey, I had an '87 Oldsmobile Mdash back in the day. It's not my fault that guy jumped off the curb and under my wheels! I miss that car, I hated having to get rid of it when they started looking for whoever hit that guy.


Hope you learned from that to use proper & nbsp;-ing next time.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 11:00 • by jvanderb
293038 in reply to 293035
anon:
jvanderb:
TRWTF is that the bounce message has someone's resume on it!


Just because the agency mentions a resume it doesn't mean one was attached. Have you never dealt with with a recruiter?


Duh...it's called sarcasm!

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 11:02 • by Aaron Priven (unregistered)
As someone who works for a transit agency I am always impressed by the variety of skills our bus operators possess. I hired a graphics production person directly out of the operator pool.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 11:09 • by Grovesy (unregistered)
293040 in reply to 293036
bjolling:
Vollhorst:
Grovesy:
galgorah:
Rodnas:
Yeah, i know. Our company is looking for a programmer/assasin. The assasin skills are needed to get rid of those pesky customers who are complaining that the software is full of bugs.

!fist
I am quite well versed in both professions. We will never meet. All fund will be direct deposited into a swiss bank acount. Upon reciept of money I will fix the bug and "Dispose()" of the target.


Only if you can Guarantee ~Target()

/groan
Calling the destructor of an object does not delete it...

/yawn
Destructor? I thought he was talking about a C++\CLI finalizer.

~~ Third try ~~



Yes, I was talking about .net Finalization, being that IDisposable.Dispose(); is a .net interface...

And yes, I think everyone knows that a Finalizer in .net with MS's runtime does not actually 'destroy' the object, release memory or anything else but simply allow you a final chance to clean up any unmanaged resource before the GC does its job.


Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 11:17 • by Anonymously Yours (unregistered)
293041 in reply to 293030
Unfortunately I'm only qualified to drive a rig (for the purpose of this weak joke) and program.


dpm:
Gloves.
Quoted for truth.


evilspoons:
Nitpick time: it is not "80's", unless the number 80 is possessing something ("robot 80's terrible decision led him to the brink of sanity").
Nitpick nitpick time: Using an apostrophe to indicate a decade is a style choice in grammar and it's acceptable to write 80s or 80's. It has nothing to do with showing possession or indicating omitted letters in this case. http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/a.html

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 11:45 • by anon (unregistered)
major layoffs ... unfortunate few


Anyone else find the first sentence a WTF?

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 11:48 • by Da' man (unregistered)
293043 in reply to 293013
toth:
in the mid-to-late 80's & mdash;
Whitespace, you've screwed over yet another poor soul.
Actually, the RWFT is not even the whitespace inside the entity. The RWTF is the whitespace *around* it.

Em-Dashes are usually set either without whitespaces surrounding them, or – if necessary – with so-called “hair spaces” (U+200A,  ).

An En-Dashe (–) on the other hand would have to be set with word spaces. At least in this situation.

Ah, the joys of typography :-)

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 11:49 • by Zylon
This is the post where I point out all the grammatical errors in today's WTF, but since they seem to never, ever get corrected, I'm thinking I may as well not even bother anymore.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 11:51 • by SR (unregistered)
293045 in reply to 293042
anon:
major layoffs ... unfortunate few


Anyone else find the first sentence a WTF?


If I were the one being laid off I'd count it as major no matter how few layoffs there were.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 11:52 • by SR (unregistered)
293046 in reply to 293044
Zylon:
This is the post where I point out all the grammatical errors in today's WTF, but since they seem to never, ever get corrected, I'm thinking I may as well not even bother anymore.


I agree

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 11:59 • by eBusiness
293047 in reply to 293006
Rodnas:
Yeah, i know. Our company is looking for a programmer/assasin. The assasin skills are needed to get rid of those pesky customers who are complaining that the software is full of bugs.

!fist
I'm not really an assassin, but I might be able to write a killer app to do the job.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 12:00 • by Pffft! (unregistered)
293048 in reply to 293042
anon:
major layoffs ... unfortunate few


Anyone else find the first sentence a WTF?
No, it's not a WTF until they start to lay off colonels.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 12:05 • by Indrora
I just &quote;<i>love</i>&quote; it when CMS systems try to "sanitize" my input;

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 12:09 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
293050 in reply to 293045
SR:
anon:
major layoffs ... unfortunate few

Anyone else find the first sentence a WTF?

If I were the one being laid off I'd count it as major no matter how few layoffs there were.

We got a memo round the office the other day which proudly announced "good news everyone - no wide-scale layoffs!!". So now everyone is shitting themselves about the small-scale layoffs that are clearly implied by the otherwise cheery message. Great way to reassure your staff.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 12:32 • by Anon (unregistered)
Yeah, I don't see a problem with the CDL. As several people have already pointed out in the states, at least, there are lots of student bus drivers. Also, how long does it take to get a CDL anyway? Couple of weeks? Maybe a month?

TRWTF is that I can nip down to U-Haul and they'll happily give me a giant truck with a trailer to tow my car without even asking if I've ever driven anything like that before.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 12:34 • by Anon (unregistered)
293053 in reply to 293006
Rodnas:
Yeah, i know. Our company is looking for a programmer/assasin. The assasin skills are needed to get rid of those pesky customers who are complaining that the software is full of bugs.

!fist


I can't give you references for my assassination skills. All the people who can really appreciate my skills seem to have mysteriously disappeared.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 12:44 • by Timothy (TRiG) (unregistered)
So you want a Teppic/You Bastard combination?

TRiG.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 12:46 • by Graham Asher (unregistered)
I've sent this to my friend Frank, who is both an excellent network administrator and a qualified bus driver. He is also a magician and accomplished children's entertainer, holds a flying license, teaches yachting, organises firework displays, and has been a scoutmaster. But that's another story.

Re: The Automated Interview, The Denny's Interview, & Missing CDL TLA

2009-12-10 13:02 • by JamesQMurphy
Grovesy:


And yes, I think everyone knows that a Finalizer in .net with MS's runtime does not actually 'destroy' the object, release memory or anything else but simply allow you a final chance to clean up any unmanaged resource before the GC does its job.



Everyone here, maybe. Certainly not the general pool of .NET candidates. Don't believe me? Conduct some interviews. You'll see.
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