Comment On The Russian Plan

"If you want My Space or American-On Line web pages," Dmitri confidently told the Wall Street executive before taking another long drag on his cigarette, “then hire New York programmer to build.” He exhaled, filling the air in the posh Moscow bar with even more smoke, then leaned in to say, “but if you need real, smart, mathematically strong system, then you hire Russian. Who you think build Google? Russian!” [expand full text]
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Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:06 • by Ger (unregistered)
Actually, russians are not the guys you go for high-level, easy to read, commercial software, nor you go to them for UI. But in case you need some crazy alghoritms... well, welcome to Eastern Europe.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:09 • by Alargule (unregistered)
In Soviet Russia, code writes YOU!

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:18 • by frits
American managers will believe any line of baloney...What a Country!

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:21 • by Alan (unregistered)
The bit where the stock codes fell down the screen and you had to rotate them in order to buy or sell was cool.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:24 • by KattMan
Yeah the team was loyal and trustworthy all right.
You just have to make sure you know who they are loyal to.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:25 • by Ilyak (unregistered)
The story ending suggests that they ought to fail again, having not learned anything?

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:25 • by Dmitri... errr... Dmitry (unregistered)
Maybe his name was Dmitry Dmitri?

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:27 • by Ilyak (unregistered)
His name was probably Дмитрий.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:28 • by Harold von Finklestein (unregistered)
Upon first glance, the Brett was impressed with the look of the UI screens. The code, on the other hand, left little to be desired.


I don't think it means what you think it does.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:28 • by java.lang.Chris;
One of the real WTFs: they didn't just add a script to CVS that called dos2unix on source files when they were committed. CVS provides a hook for pre-commit tasks for a reason.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:28 • by Ilyak (unregistered)
Err, Дмитрий.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:34 • by Aaron
So evidently this story is from Brett's POV, and Brett was hired after they had acquired the product. Which makes the entire first section of this story a complete fabrication.

But I guess it's OK, as long as it pokes fun at managers and executives.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:34 • by Ru (unregistered)
296324 in reply to 296320
Harold von Finklestein:
Upon first glance, the Brett was impressed with the look of the UI screens. The code, on the other hand, left little to be desired.


I don't think it means what you think it does.


That's because you're probably the sort of person who 'could care less'.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:39 • by Cecil (unregistered)
296325 in reply to 296324
I know it peaked your interest, but for all intensive purposes isn't it just a mute point?

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:40 • by SR (unregistered)
296326 in reply to 296323
Aaron:
So evidently this story is from Brett's POV, and Brett was hired after they had acquired the product. Which makes the entire first section of this story a complete fabrication.

But I guess it's OK, as long as it pokes fun at managers and executives.


That's fine by me.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:40 • by highphilosopher (unregistered)
296327 in reply to 296324
Ru:
Harold von Finklestein:
Upon first glance, the Brett was impressed with the look of the UI screens. The code, on the other hand, left little to be desired.


I don't think it means what you think it does.


That's because you're probably the sort of person who 'could care less'.


Or maybe you're just the kind of person who 'doesn't want to get involved'.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:41 • by SR (unregistered)
296328 in reply to 296325
Cecil:
I know it peaked your interest, but for all intensive purposes isn't it just a mute point?


There's a special level of Hell for cruel posters of Internet comments. You're a shoe-in for that.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:41 • by Peter (unregistered)
296329 in reply to 296315
Alan:
The bit where the stock codes fell down the screen and you had to rotate them in order to buy or sell was cool.


Win.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:46 • by KattMan
296330 in reply to 296324
Ru:
Harold von Finklestein:
Upon first glance, the Brett was impressed with the look of the UI screens. The code, on the other hand, left little to be desired.


I don't think it means what you think it does.


That's because you're probably the sort of person who 'could care less'.


Dr. Finklestien is correct, If it left little to be desired then it had everything in it, or maybe he is wrong, because it did have the ability to back date a buy and make you tons of money.

As for the 'could care less', this comes from "As if I could care less', meaning that you can't care less. Other sources of this give it a Yiddish etymology in which they tend to say the opposite of what they mean in order to enhance the idiocy of the comment.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:49 • by Dignissim (unregistered)
296332 in reply to 296320
Harold von Finklestein:
Upon first glance, the Brett was impressed with the look of the UI screens. The code, on the other hand, left little to be desired.


I don't think it means what you think it does.


Don't question The Brett's wisdom. If The Brett says the opposite of what he means, it is because The Brett wants to expose you as a whiner. You have fallen right into his clever trap.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 09:53 • by pjt33
296333 in reply to 296325
Cecil:
I no it peaked your interest, but for all intensive purposes isn't it just a mute point?

FTFY.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 10:00 • by dr memals (unregistered)
296334 in reply to 296330
KattMan:
Ru:
Harold von Finklestein:
Upon first glance, the Brett was impressed with the look of the UI screens. The code, on the other hand, left little to be desired.


I don't think it means what you think it does.


That's because you're probably the sort of person who 'could care less'.


Dr. Finklestien is correct, If it left little to be desired then it had everything in it, or maybe he is wrong, because it did have the ability to back date a buy and make you tons of money.

As for the 'could care less', this comes from "As if I could care less', meaning that you can't care less. Other sources of this give it a Yiddish etymology in which they tend to say the opposite of what they mean in order to enhance the idiocy of the comment.


In my country we call that "Sarcasm"

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 10:06 • by Harold von Finklestein (unregistered)
296335 in reply to 296330
KattMan:
Dr. Finklestien is correct, If it left little to be desired then it had everything in it, or maybe he is wrong, because it did have the ability to back date a buy and make you tons of money.

While others might be vexed, carefully dissecting errors in the articles is surely a tradition by now. For what it's worth, now that I think of it it's in all likelihood a simple case of a missing "a".

As for the 'could care less', this comes from "As if I could care less', meaning that you can't care less. Other sources of this give it a Yiddish etymology in which they tend to say the opposite of what they mean in order to enhance the idiocy of the comment.

I wasn't aware of this particular explanation, and yet it makes the most sese of them all. Many thanks.

PS: How did you know I'm a doctor, anyway?

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 10:08 • by cdosrun
296336 in reply to 296333
pjt33:
Cecil:
I no it peaked you're interest, but for all intensive purposes isn't it just a mute point?

FTFY.


Yeah, I know it's irrevelant, but that begs the question, aren't most comments?

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 10:08 • by Plz Send Me The Code (unregistered)
296337 in reply to 296334
dr memals:
KattMan:
Ru:
Harold von Finklestein:
Upon first glance, the Brett was impressed with the look of the UI screens. The code, on the other hand, left little to be desired.


I don't think it means what you think it does.


That's because you're probably the sort of person who 'could care less'.


Dr. Finklestien is correct, If it left little to be desired then it had everything in it, or maybe he is wrong, because it did have the ability to back date a buy and make you tons of money.

As for the 'could care less', this comes from "As if I could care less', meaning that you can't care less. Other sources of this give it a Yiddish etymology in which they tend to say the opposite of what they mean in order to enhance the idiocy of the comment.


In my country we call that "Sarcasm"


Wow, you're so clever.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 10:14 • by again! (unregistered)
296338 in reply to 296336
cdosrun:
pjt33:
Cecil:
I no it peaked you're interest, but four all intensive purposes isn't it just a mute point?

FTFY.


Yeah, I know it's irrevelant, but that begs the question, aren't most comments?


more FTFY!

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 10:16 • by md5sum
296339 in reply to 296336
cdosrun:
pjt33:
Cecil:
I know it piqued your interest, but for all intents and purposes isn't it just a mute point?

FTFY.


Yeah, I know it's irrevelant, but that begs the question, aren't most comments?


FTFY all... let's just go and fix the real problem, not the words around it...

99% of lawyers...

2010-01-19 10:20 • by Alexander Temerev (unregistered)
Normally, when you write forex trading systems, you sign tons of NDAs and other legalese which can get you literally destroyed (or worse) if you even try thinking of such a trick.

Disclaimer: I am writing trading systems for a living, I am Russian, and my name is not Dmitri.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 10:22 • by Anon (unregistered)
296341 in reply to 296339
md5sum:
cdosrun:
pjt33:
Cecil:
I know it piqued your interest, but for all intents and purposes isn't it just a moot point?

FTFY.


Yeah, I know it's irrevelant, but that begs the question, aren't most comments?


FTFY all... let's just go and fix the real problem, not the words around it...


No, you missed one.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 10:22 • by Yardik (unregistered)
I love eastern europe.


//Maybe I needing later..
public static void emailDealInfo(String ticker, String buyOrSell) {
try {
sendEmail(ticker, buyOrSell, "dmitri@maybeineedinglater.ru");
} catch (EmailException ex) {
logger.log(ex);
}
}

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 10:24 • by md5sum
296343 in reply to 296341
Anon:
md5sum:
cdosrun:
pjt33:
Cecil:
I know it piqued your interest, but for all intents and purposes isn't it just a moot point?

FTFY.


Yeah, I know it's irrevelant, but that begs the question, aren't most comments?


FTFY all... let's just go and fix the real problem, not the words around it...


No, you missed one.


Ah, damn... well, I was closer than the rest of these fools :P

Re: 99% of lawyers...

2010-01-19 10:25 • by Anon (unregistered)
296344 in reply to 296340
Alexander Temerev:
Normally, when you write forex trading systems, you sign tons of NDAs and other legalese which can get you literally destroyed (or worse) if you even try thinking of such a trick.

Disclaimer: I am writing trading systems for a living, I am Russian, and my name is not Dmitri.


Well, you see, that's why it's almost a perfect crime. Sure the company could press charges or sue him into oblivion, but to do so would show everybody how incompetent they are. Not good for a company that wants people to trust them with their money.
If Dmitri got away with it, he would have been rich. If he get's caught (which he did), it's quietly swept under the rug and he's let go to try it again with a different company.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 10:31 • by The names have been changed to protect the innocent (unregistered)
Wonder if Kaspersky is feeding intelligence to the Russian Maf.., sorry, Government.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 10:33 • by oldami (unregistered)
296346 in reply to 296320
Harold von Finklestein:
Upon first glance, the Brett was impressed with the look of the UI screens. The code, on the other hand, left little to be desired.


I don't think it means what you think it does.


Inconceivable!

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 10:47 • by Quirkafleeg (unregistered)
296347 in reply to 296330
KattMan:
As for the 'could care less', this comes from "As if I could care less', meaning that you can't care less.
⇒ “couldn't care less”.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 10:49 • by BBT (unregistered)
296348 in reply to 296343
md5sum:
Anon:
md5sum:
cdosrun:
pjt33:
Cecil:
I know it piqued your interest, but for all intents and purposes isn't it just a moot point?

FTFY.


Yeah, I know it's irrevelant, but that begs the question, aren't most comments?


FTFY all... let's just go and fix the real problem, not the words around it...


No, you missed one.


Ah, damn... well, I was closer than the rest of these fools :P


Well, that might makes you the biggest fool, since all the other "fools" were intentionally adding mistakes.

The "intensive purposes" mixup is not so bad. Yeah, "intents and purposes" is correct, but essentially it's saying "purposes and purposes". At least "intensive purposes" makes sense and isn't redundant.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 10:55 • by frits
296349 in reply to 296343
Three layers of funny surrounded by three layers of clueless.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 10:58 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
296350 in reply to 296348
BBT:
The "intensive purposes" mixup is not so bad. Yeah, "intents and purposes" is correct, but essentially it's saying "purposes and purposes". At least "intensive purposes" makes sense and isn't redundant.

OK, I'll remember that - it's OK to be wrong as long as BBT gives it his seal of approval. I was wondering, is it OK for me to put an extra a in "you God-damn reatard"? Thanks!

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 10:58 • by Mr Grumpy (unregistered)
Hmm.. not so long time ago

http://news.cnet.com/Russia-dominates-computer-programming-
contest/2100-1007_3-6061381.html

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 11:00 • by NightDweller
296352 in reply to 296320
Harold von Finklestein:
Upon first glance, the Brett was impressed with the look of the UI screens. The code, on the other hand, left little to be desired.


I do not think it means what you think it means.


FTFY

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 11:16 • by ounos
296354 in reply to 296336
cdosrun:
pjt33:
Cecil:
I no it peaked you're interest, but for all intensive purposes isn't it just a mute point?

FTFY.


Yeah, I know it's irrevelant, but that begs the question, aren't most comments?

You are a welcomed addition to the club of "I don't know what begging the question even means but I see no problem using it as I see fit". (I would add a helpful link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question but some software drone in between thinks it is spam).

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 11:18 • by amischiefr
296355 in reply to 296312
Alex:
Well, kind of. There’s a second team working out of a satellite office. Labor over there is cheap, good quality, and, most importantly, totally trustworthy. It’s not in Moscow, though.

Ahh yes, India. Where labor is cheap and the code is... well, ok not so good a quality. Maybe it's not India, maybe its Nigeria. I hear they have some good talent over there.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 11:27 • by frits
This article reeks of BS and xenophobia.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 11:31 • by Andrew (unregistered)
So anyway, what sort of cars were they selling through the auto-trading system?

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 11:40 • by lolwtf
Was the code preceded by a comment "maybe I needing this later"?

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 11:44 • by John (unregistered)
296360 in reply to 296356
frits:
This article reeks of BS and xenophobia.


Why, because the Russians are the antagonists? I admit it's very James Bond. Seeing as the vast majority of WTFs are American, with the occasional Brit it suggests a nice balance it's not only us that are crap.

I also don't see why you can claim it's BS. I've always joked about messing up the rounding when it comes to VAT in our invoicing system (It could earn me a cool £120 per year). It's just that a bunch of guys who could write [bad] code decided to implement their crazy scheme.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 11:46 • by Vlad Patryshev (unregistered)
So, after encountering one scoundrels and 6 idiots, the company decided that Russians are no gooNo d.

Good reminder for me, who on the daily basis has been trying to refactor the code from our Chinese colleagues - yes, thousands-line methods, copy-paste, no refactoring, just commenting out; global variables everywhere... so what?

No, I am not defending all the crooks and idiots in Moscow; there's plenty. But if you look around, how many companies have tons of great programmers over there, in Russia; if you look at, hmm, the best Java/Scala IDE, if you check out where exactly the best anti-virus software is being produced... oh, whatever. Sorry for interrupting.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 11:53 • by RBoy (unregistered)
296362 in reply to 296315
Alan:
The bit where the stock codes fell down the screen and you had to rotate them in order to buy or sell was cool.


You win a satchel of internets.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 11:53 • by Yardik (unregistered)
The article did smack of a bit of 'cliche corrupt russian' stereotype... Oh well, entertaining read none the less.

Moo.

Re: The Russian Plan

2010-01-19 11:56 • by Zylon
This DailyWTF left little to be desired.
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