Comment On Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

Meep:

Childish:

It turns out that the plastic switch was the reset button. Find the air slot on the side of the Mac Plus, & snap it in. Since Macintosh was user friendly, they didn't want regular people to have a reset switch.

Regular people don't want a reset switch, they want their computer to not crash.

Before System 6 introduced multitasking, Macs were incredibly stable. If you had a reset switch, all you gained was the possibility of accidentally pressing it and losing all your work.

Ah, the good old days of 19-diggety-two, when we wore onions on our belts.

Hortical:

CoderHero:

Lockwood:

I was going to comment on the comment manager comment manager comment, but I had a problem with my hard dish and couldn't find a magnet.

There's your problem! Magnets and hard disks don't mix.

Oh, you said *disks*... Sorry, my mind was wandering. :P

Very original. Especially if you're one of the guys I did this to.

Hortical (C-Octothrope in diguise):

CoderHero:

Lockwood:

I was going to comment on the comment manager comment manager comment, but I had a problem with my hard dish and couldn't find a magnet.

There's your problem! Magnets and hard disks don't mix.

Oh, you said *disks*... Sorry, my mind was wandering. :P

So you couldn't stand to respond to Hort's last post after he psychoanalyzed you, so to try and feel good about yourself, you made fun of him indirectly.

You know you have a problem with self-esteem when you resort to this.

C-Octothorpe:

Hortical:

Anyone smell that? It's the odd stench of an unjustified superiority complex.

Oh, wait, here it is:

C-Octothorpe:

Oh wow, you actually think I care what an anonymous loser on a forum thinks of me. Cool!

AND you even took the time to tell everyone about it...

Speaking as another anonymous loser on an internet forum, I enjoy reading your posts. I don't know why your contributions seem to have attracted so much hostility of late.

Seriously, I like what you write here. Keep it up!

zunesis:

Hortical (admitting his secrets):

CoderHero:

Lockwood:

I was going to comment on the comment manager comment manager comment, but I had a problem with my hard dish and couldn't find a magnet.

There's your problem! Magnets and hard disks don't mix.

Oh, you said *disks*... Sorry, my mind was wandering. :P

So you couldn't stand to respond to Hort's last post after he psychoanalyzed you, so to try and feel good about yourself, you made fun of him indirectly.

You know you have a problem with self-esteem when you resort to this.

Ha, I've got lots of problems, but self-esteem isn't one of them. Also, I've never logged in anonymously just to be a wanker, and I'm not about to start.

Peter:

C-Octothorpe:

Hortical:

Anyone smell that? It's the odd stench of an unjustified superiority complex.

Oh, wait, here it is:

C-Octothorpe:

Oh wow, you actually think I care what an anonymous loser on a forum thinks of me. Cool!

AND you even took the time to tell everyone about it...

Speaking as another anonymous loser on an internet forum, I enjoy reading your posts. I don't know why your contributions seem to have attracted so much hostility of late.

Seriously, I like what you write here. Keep it up!

So you're real name is Peter, eh boog? Don't think that I forgot you use your first name when posting anonymously.

I think we have some Good Cop/Sipowicz going on here.

boog = Peter = Cocktothorpe:

Peter:

C-Octothorpe:

Hortical:

Anyone smell that? It's the odd stench of an unjustified superiority complex.

Oh, wait, here it is:

C-Octothorpe:

Oh wow, you actually think I care what an anonymous loser on a forum thinks of me. Cool!

AND you even took the time to tell everyone about it...

Speaking as another anonymous loser on an internet forum, I enjoy reading your posts. I don't know why your contributions seem to have attracted so much hostility of late.

Seriously, I like what you write here. Keep it up!

So you're real name is Peter, eh boog? Don't think that I forgot you use your first name when posting anonymously.

Ooh, can I put my tin-foil hat on too?! Like I said previously, I may have problems but I think yours are much bigger than mine...

anon:

Fred:

Because everything you buy for your computer has to have a CD so you can install something, I once got a Dell monitor with a CD.

WTF?

The "installer" basically copies a PDF of the manual to your hard disk.

Of course, it only runs on Windows.

I guess they figured if you're smart enough to have anything else, you're smart enough to figure out how to open a PDF from a CD. Or copy it yourself. Or just plug in the damn cable and forget about TFM.

Just about every monitor comes with a disc, usually containing the manuals and the driver. Yes, every monitor has a driver, which tells the machine what capabilities (resolution, refresh rate) it has. Now tons of monitor drivers are included with OSes by default, and the generic driver will work pretty well for just about every monitor, but there are a lot of scenarios where the driver can be necessary or at least useful

No CD (this was back in the days when you had to make a special request for a 3½" floppy instead of the default 5¼"), but my Apple //c joystick came with an instruction manual.

boog = Peter = Cocktothorpe:

Peter:

Speaking as another anonymous loser on an internet forum, I enjoy reading your posts. I don't know why your contributions seem to have attracted so much hostility of late.

Seriously, I like what you write here. Keep it up!

So you're real name is Peter, eh boog? Don't think that I forgot you use your first name when posting anonymously.

Wow, you think I'm boog and C-Octothorpe. I'm flattered. Thank you. (No, really, thank you! I'll be walking on air for at least the rest of the day.)

My hovercraft is full of eels.

Captcha: transverbero

The ClearCase install process is amazing. First, the Install Manager is Eclipse (Java) based, so it's a behemoth. Once the installer is installed you use it to install CCRC (ClearCase Remote Client) which is also Eclipse based, and also a behemoth.

Installing it doesn't really make things better, the client is slow (and incompatible with any customizations your company has made to clearcase) that you'll probably ending up going back to the old, deprecated client.

C-Octothorpe:

zunesis:

Hortical (admitting his secrets):

CoderHero:

Lockwood:

I was going to comment on the comment manager comment manager comment, but I had a problem with my hard dish and couldn't find a magnet.

There's your problem! Magnets and hard disks don't mix.

Oh, you said *disks*... Sorry, my mind was wandering. :P

So you couldn't stand to respond to Hort's last post after he psychoanalyzed you, so to try and feel good about yourself, you made fun of him indirectly.

You know you have a problem with self-esteem when you resort to this.

Ha, I've got lots of problems, but self-esteem isn't one of them. Also, I've never logged in anonymously just to be a wanker, and I'm not about to start.

Hey - I got you to talk to me again!

Yeah, I'm sure that wasn't you. What other motivation would someone have had to post that? You never responded to my post where I explained how I was getting to you (because it would be implicitly admitting that I was getting to you) and then someone posts "Oh, you said *disks*... "

That couldn't have been you trying to respond without ACTUALLY responding.

You just can't help yourself can you?

That magnet is just a great idea, not a TDWTF.. We have some videoconferencing setups, and some users "i know a thing or two about computers" tend to fiddle with 'em until its FUBAR.

And then come running in, screaming their heads off

boog = Peter = Cocktothorpe:

Peter:

C-Octothorpe:

Hortical:

Anyone smell that? It's the odd stench of an unjustified superiority complex.

Oh, wait, here it is:

C-Octothorpe:

Oh wow, you actually think I care what an anonymous loser on a forum thinks of me. Cool!

AND you even took the time to tell everyone about it...

Speaking as another anonymous loser on an internet forum, I enjoy reading your posts. I don't know why your contributions seem to have attracted so much hostility of late.

Seriously, I like what you write here. Keep it up!

So you're real name is Peter, eh boog? Don't think that I forgot you use your first name when posting anonymously.

What? No! Is it really that hard to believe that someone genuinely appreciates his input? Maybe there are more and they just don't say anything? At least I'd like to think so...

C-Octothorpe:

Ha, I've got lots of problems, but self-esteem isn't one of them. Also, I've never logged in anonymously just to be a wanker, and I'm not about to start.

It's the internet! Everyone's anonymous! And the unregistered users ("anonymous" in retard speak) don't log in!

Aren't you done yet?

Man, this is what we have become?
I'm going to go visit the UI hall of shame just to see some WTF's without the diatribe for a while.

Peter:

What? No! Is it really that hard to believe that someone genuinely appreciates his input? Maybe there are more and they just don't say anything? At least I'd like to think so...

Yes, I'm a C-Octothorpe fan as well! I really love his writing. I think it's excellent. Especially the arguments he gets into with those guys who think they're so clever. They're not so clever.
You want to see clever? Keep an eye on C-Octothorpe. Cleverest guy on this site, by a long chalk.

Jim:

Peter:

What? No! Is it really that hard to believe that someone genuinely appreciates his input? Maybe there are more and they just don't say anything? At least I'd like to think so...

Yes, I'm a C-Octothorpe fan as well! I really love his writing. I think it's excellent. Especially the arguments he gets into with those guys who think they're so clever. They're not so clever.
You want to see clever? Keep an eye on C-Octothorpe. Cleverest guy on this site, by a long chalk.

Me too, boy howdy. I love his modesty and subtlety especially.

Peter:

What? No! Is it really that hard to believe that someone genuinely appreciates his input? Maybe there are more and they just don't say anything? At least I'd like to think so...

Completely apart from anything any other unrelated posters might say (who are not me, by the way), I think C-Octothorpe is the best thing that ever happened to this site. Without him, this site would be a dreary wasteland, bereft of wit or substance.

Ralph:

Peter:

What? No! Is it really that hard to believe that someone genuinely appreciates his input? Maybe there are more and they just don't say anything? At least I'd like to think so...

Completely apart from anything any other unrelated posters might say (who are not me, by the way), I think C-Octothorpe is the best thing that ever happened to this site. Without him, this site would be a dreary wasteland, bereft of wit or substance.

Wait, that wasn't Ralph who said that, it was me.

Frankie:

My hovercraft is full of eels.

Captcha: transverbero

Frog blast the vent core!

Ralph:

I think C-Octothorpe is the best thing that ever happened to this site.

I agree. Half the fun is just listening to him talk.

What's better than the Daily WTF? A [/i]Walking[/i] one!

There's probably other hidden reed switches on the camera that unlock cool and awesome features! Let the treasure hunt begin!

Ralph:

There's probably other hidden reed switches on the camera that unlock cool and awesome features! Let the treasure hunt begin!

I bet scratching the magnet over the lens for 10 seconds enables the 'soft focus' feature.

Hey C-Octothorpe! Guess where I've been? Remember when you mentioned the Bastard Operator from Hell a few months back? Well, I read every single article that was ever written. Priceless. Thanks man.

Now that that's done, I can resume reading TDWTF.

hoodaticus:

Hey C-Octothorpe! Guess where I've been? Remember when you mentioned the Bastard Operator from Hell a few months back? Well, I read every single article that was ever written. Priceless. Thanks man.

Now that that's done, I can resume reading TDWTF.

Fuck off, are you serious?!

I thought you died!

RE BOFH: I too got sucked into reading every article once too. Well, not *every* article, just for the past 5 years or so.

boog = Peter = Cocktothorpe:

Peter:

C-Octothorpe:

Hortical:

Anyone smell that? It's the odd stench of an unjustified superiority complex.

Oh, wait, here it is:

C-Octothorpe:

Oh wow, you actually think I care what an anonymous loser on a forum thinks of me. Cool!

AND you even took the time to tell everyone about it...

Speaking as another anonymous loser on an internet forum, I enjoy reading your posts. I don't know why your contributions seem to have attracted so much hostility of late.

Seriously, I like what you write here. Keep it up!

So you're real name is Peter, eh boog? Don't think that I forgot you use your first name when posting anonymously.

If you lot are anything like me, you haunt this site when you're procrastinating.

Sigh ... back to work. Now, what actually *is* the definition of a scattered space? Is it a space where every non-empty subset contains at least one isolated point, or a space where every non-empty closed set contains at least one isolated point? I really need to know ... and my sources contradict one another. The latter (found on PlanetMath) makes most sense in the context of demonstrating that the Either-Or topology is scattered, but in the context of something else I can't remember now it seems too restrictive. The former (found in Steen and Seebach) seems to lead to contradictions. Both MathWorld and Wikipedia are silent on the issue. And don't bother to look at ProofWiki, it's self-contradictory on the subject.

Hey, can you bring back Nagesh, too. I love that character!

boog = Peter = Cocktothorpe:

So you're real name is Peter, eh boog?

Close - you're only 5 letters off!

Don't think that I forgot you use your first name when posting anonymously.

1) Did you really invent some alternate universe where I said I used my first name to post anonymously, and
2) where can I acquire such god-like powers?

Or more to the point, how exactly is posting as the name "boog" not anonymous?

Would you please stop using "Ralph" as one of your sock puppets? Ralph is one of my sock puppets.

The Requester:

Hey, can you bring back Nagesh, too. I love that character!

Don't you remember? He died from eating too much uncooked diarrhoea.

(Of course, in India it's difficult to tell diarrhoea from their staple diet, so it's not an uncommon occurrence.)

I believe he's up for reincarnation, but you have to wait some time for the baby to brew.

Procedure:
1. Boot up the Xcaster
2. Place a magnet close to the lower left or right side of the camera lens (red circle on image below).
3. After 5-10 seconds, the GUI screen should turn white, and the Xcaster will reboot.
4. When the screen turns white, remove the magnet and wait for the booting to complete.
5. Reset procedure is now complete.

I'd hate to get this user manual mixed up with my pacemaker's user manual.

Anon:

You wouldn't want people to accidentally reset to factory settings whenever they fiddle with the buttons.

That's not what Mike T asked for:

Mike T:

...but we're finding that the hardware and software design are just not quite Enterprisey enough for our liking.

Here's the enterprisey way of doing a factory reset:

* Print out an XML-Document (like WSDL of your average Webservice).
* Lay printout on wooden table.
* Photograph with digital camera.
* Order foto print by 3rd party company. Bonus points when done via a webservice.
* When foto print arrives, hold foto print for 5 seconds in front of lens of the TV conference camera.

boog:

Procedure:
1. Boot up the Xcaster
2. Place a magnet close to the lower left or right side of the camera lens (red circle on image below).
3. After 5-10 seconds, the GUI screen should turn white, and the Xcaster will reboot.
4. When the screen turns white, remove the magnet and wait for the booting to complete.
5. Reset procedure is now complete.

I'd hate to get this user manual mixed up with my pacemaker's user manual.

Now *that* sounds like an awesome weekend!

operagost:

Ah, the good old days of 19-diggety-two, when we wore onions on our belts.

I remember that. We had to say diggety, because the kaiser stole our word for twenty.

Matt Westwood:

The Requester:

Hey, can you bring back Nagesh, too. I love that character!

Don't you remember? He died from eating too much uncooked diarrhoea.

(Of course, in India it's difficult to tell diarrhoea from their staple diet, so it's not an uncommon occurrence.)

I believe he's up for reincarnation, but you have to wait some time for the baby to brew.

I suspect he walks among us, and is no other than C-Octothorpe's personal troll, a legion of sockpuppets, and perhaps hoodaticus as well (the timing of his return is quite odd).

The Proclaimer:

Matt Westwood:

The Requester:

Hey, can you bring back Nagesh, too. I love that character!

Don't you remember? He died from eating too much uncooked diarrhoea.

(Of course, in India it's difficult to tell diarrhoea from their staple diet, so it's not an uncommon occurrence.)

I believe he's up for reincarnation, but you have to wait some time for the baby to brew.

I suspect he walks among us, and is no other than C-Octothorpe's personal troll, a legion of sockpuppets, and perhaps hoodaticus as well (the timing of his return is quite odd).

Here, he may be able to help you...

Having just orchestrated a ClearCase LT to ClearCase full upgrade, the Installation Manager installer bit actually made perfect sense to me. Also, the LT product line made a lot more sense to me than the full version does. That must be why IBM killed it!

We skipped the silent install for ClearCase and just did it via the GUI. We did do the silent install stuff for RAD 8.0 because that takes a LOT longer and is better left to run unattended.

Hint if you want to attempt this, find the latest version of the IBM Installation Manager you can so you can skip the update of the Installation Manager itself!

Also, if you run the installer from the command line with -? or the like, it will show you the options you need to google. Same for the Installation Manager. The installation manager does a good job for you via -record or some similar option.

Codez available upon beer.

C-Octothorpe:

The Proclaimer:

Matt Westwood:

The Requester:

Hey, can you bring back Nagesh, too. I love that character!

Don't you remember? He died from eating too much uncooked diarrhoea.

(Of course, in India it's difficult to tell diarrhoea from their staple diet, so it's not an uncommon occurrence.)

I believe he's up for reincarnation, but you have to wait some time for the baby to brew.

I suspect he walks among us, and is no other than C-Octothorpe's personal troll, a legion of sockpuppets, and perhaps hoodaticus as well (the timing of his return is quite odd).

Here, he may be able to help you...

Yeah, OK. A fake psychiatrist.

I'm not angry. I'm just calling 'em as I see 'em.

Do you really think all this site is full of people who have focused their attention on you?

The Proclaimer:

Do you really think all this site is full of people who have focused their attention on you?

No, I really think there are only three people on this site. Me, Alex, and some dude having conversations with himself using many different accounts.

KattMan:

The Proclaimer:

Do you really think all this site is full of people who have focused their attention on you?

No, I really think there are only three people on this site. Me, Alex, and some dude having conversations with himself using many different accounts.

Did you ever read A Scanner Darkly?

Matt Westwood:

If you lot are anything like me, you haunt this site when you're procrastinating.

Exactly. I just came to the realization that the transaction domain model I'm building would be a hell of a lot simpler if updates got pushed out of the database and into my apps in realtime using events and absolutely no polling. I have a bare-minimum bandwidth requirement (meaning I can only send changes rather than whole recordsets), a high-security requirement, a client-side caching requirement, and my data is constantly, rapidly changing.

So, I'm gonna need a Service Broker, a session-based web service, a way to avoid duplicate caches and subscriptions on the client (I have many apps that will use this), encryption, compression, and authentication. And the client code has to be able to run in the nerfed Silverlight runtime as well as regular .NET4.

So yeah, procrastinating. But since I'm also a manager, I could be surfing porn and they'd hardly care. I think I'll go do that now.

hoodaticus:

I'm also a manager

That's quite unlikely.

C-Octothorpe:

Obviously the comments were written by a neural network.

One of the greatest poems written in the English language. The moving saga of the pig and the dove will live forever.

method1:

C-Octothorpe:

Obviously the comments were written by a neural network.

One of the greatest poems written in the English language. The moving saga of the pig and the dove will live forever.

My level of confidence in the human race has just been slightly incremented. Which is nice, because it's been plummeting rapidly of late.

KattMan:

The Proclaimer:

Do you really think all this site is full of people who have focused their attention on you?

No, I really think there are only three people on this site. Me, Alex, and some dude having conversations with himself using many different accounts.

So it's really just you and Alex then?

Another example of failing the Turing Test.

boog:

hoodaticus:

I'm also a manager

That's quite unlikely.

Which just goes to show you what terrible luck I have. Code doesn't get PMS. Nuff said.