Comment On Variable Shrimp

"Hmmm," Michael pondered, "the 4-minute Shrimp takes 10 minutes to prep and 7 minutes to cook... maybe it only takes 4 minutes to eat?" [expand full text]
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Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:03 • by belgariontheking
OH NO Lies in advertising! Stop the presses!

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:03 • by Ryuzaki (unregistered)
First Timedout?

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:04 • by spamcourt
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Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:04 • by Anon (unregistered)
This 4 word comment takes 10 words to read, and contains 7 words.

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:07 • by TarquinWJ (unregistered)
Perhaps they mean "minute shrimp" ("my-newt", meaning "small") as opposed to "minute shrimp" ("minnit", meaning 60 seconds). Still doesn't explain where the extra 3 mins difference between preparation and cooking time went.

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:09 • by Cpt (unregistered)
232264 in reply to 232254
No lies, they are just very, very, very small (minute even)

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:16 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
No, that should be 4 tiny shrimp... That's why it only takes 10 and 7 minutes respectively.

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:18 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
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Re: 4 Minutes to eat

2008-12-02 08:19 • by Tino (unregistered)
I've got it!

10-7=4

Re: 4 Minutes to eat

2008-12-02 08:21 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
232269 in reply to 232268
Tino:
I've got it!

10-7=4


Ummmm... Yea, enough said. Note to self: check work with calculator before posting.

Re: 4 Minutes to eat

2008-12-02 08:24 • by AdT (unregistered)
232270 in reply to 232269
Anonymous:
Tino:
I've got it!

10-7=4


Ummmm... Yea, enough said. Note to self: check work with calculator before posting.


Note to self: check work with irony meter before posting.

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:29 • by Beaker (unregistered)
232271 in reply to 232260
10 minutes to prepare the shrimp before they are ready to be cooked then 7 more minutes to cook them.

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:29 • by Nik_Doof (unregistered)
Manchester has a long history of faulty information signs, just check out the infamous "System Fault" on Oxford Road.

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:31 • by brian (unregistered)
Or perhaps they're tiny shrimp... minute in size as opposed to time-frame?

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:33 • by dkf
232274 in reply to 232255
Ryuzaki:
First Timedout?
There is a bus company in that area called First...

Re: 4 Minutes to eat

2008-12-02 08:36 • by julmu
232275 in reply to 232269
Anonymous:
Tino:
I've got it!

10-7=4


Ummmm... Yea, enough said. Note to self: check work with calculator before posting.
Note to self: use a base-9 calculator

Addendum (2008-12-03 02:13):
Another note to self: check comment with brain before posting

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:37 • by Anon (unregistered)
Perhaps 4 minutes is how long you have to run to the bathroom after eating the shrimp?

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:38 • by Smash King
The spicy shrimp will cook in 4 minutes, for extremely low values of 7. No WTF here.

Re: 4 Minutes to eat

2008-12-02 08:41 • by Smash King
232278 in reply to 232275
A base-9 calculator would return 2. He needs a base-11 calculator (and you need one too)

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:43 • by Rockafellow (unregistered)
Other people from Manchester visit this site? Damn, that surprises me; I'd have thought I'm the only one.

Re: 4 Minutes to eat

2008-12-02 08:43 • by jim (unregistered)
232281 in reply to 232278
Smash King:
A base-9 calculator would return 2. He needs a base-11 calculator (and you need one too)


no, I think he needs a base 10 calculator & some maths lessons!!!

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:51 • by CaRL (unregistered)
I can't believe how slow you folks are today.

It is painfully obvious that the "Did you know?" dialog needs buttons reading "Yes" "No" and "File not found".

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:55 • by aka (unregistered)
At least the bus only timed out. The car park really took offence at the new parking meters...



http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/990185.rude_awakening_for_dawn_drivers/

Re: 4 Minutes to eat

2008-12-02 08:57 • by IT Girl (unregistered)
232285 in reply to 232270
AdT:
Anonymous:
Tino:
I've got it!

10-7=4


Ummmm... Yea, enough said. Note to self: check work with calculator before posting.


Note to self: check work with irony meter before posting.


Note to self: look up irony before misusing the word like the rest of the world

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 08:59 • by b0ttomfeeder (unregistered)
232286 in reply to 232272
Nik_Doof:
Manchester has a long history of faulty information signs, just check out the infamous "System Fault" on Oxford Road.


Does it still do that? I have a photo from 2003 of System Fault on a manc parking sign.

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 09:05 • by Walleye
Does "cleaniness" bear the same relationship to "clean" that "truthiness" bears to truth?

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 09:09 • by ParkinT
How do you test cleanliness? Lick the toilet seat and then wait to see if you get ill?!!!

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 09:20 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
No comment. But I really wanted to get involved.

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 09:24 • by dhmo (unregistered)
232293 in reply to 232290
Laboratory tests tend to be a bit more effective.

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 09:33 • by Mark Bowytz
232295 in reply to 232290
ParkinT:
How do you test cleanliness? Lick the toilet seat and then wait to see if you get ill?!!!


Yes, actually. If it tastes like menthol, you're golden.

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 09:36 • by JamesQMurphy
232296 in reply to 232290
ParkinT:
How do you test cleanliness? Lick the toilet seat and then wait to see if you get ill?!!!

Sure, but you have to wait at the bus stop. While eating 4 minute shrimp. After cooking for 7 minutes.

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 09:47 • by Paolo G (unregistered)
232297 in reply to 232260
TarquinWJ:
Perhaps they mean "minute shrimp" ("my-newt", meaning "small") as opposed to "minute shrimp" ("minnit", meaning 60 seconds). Still doesn't explain where the extra 3 mins difference between preparation and cooking time went.


Well, that's what it says: "minute" as in "tiny". If they meant "shrimp that takes four minutes to cook", then they should have written "4-minute ... shrimp", that is, they should have put in a hyphen. But hey, who needs punctuation? It's far more fun to be ambiguous! :)

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 10:12 • by JimM
232303 in reply to 232280
Rockafellow:
Other people from Manchester visit this site? Damn, that surprises me; I'd have thought I'm the only one.
Naah, there's loads of us. The SYSTEM FAULT signs on those parking things aren't Manc specific though, you get them pretty much anywhere with one of those city-wide parking spaces things (I'm sure I've seen that in both Birmingham and Lancaster, off the top of my head).

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 10:15 • by dave (unregistered)
You can rule out minute meaning small as the recipe requires 24 jumbo shrimps

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/rachael-ray/4-minute-spicy-garlic-shrimp-recipe/index.html

Re: 4 Minutes to eat

2008-12-02 10:19 • by JimM
232306 in reply to 232268
Tino:
I've got it!

10-7=4
But that doesn't make sense: it'd have to be 10 + 7 = 4. Base -11, anyone?

I hate to bring a sense of reality to the world (who am I kidding, no I don't! I also laugh when children drop ice-creams: I'm just that kind of sociopath ;^) ) but if you read the recipe it recommends cooking the shrimp for "about 3 minutes" then throwing in a few other ingredients, giving it a quick stir, then serving. So I guess the 4 minutes in the title is the actual length of time taken from putting things in the pan, and the extra 3 minutes is the time taken to heat the pan and oil up? So the title isn't *completely* goofy. Although it is rather akin to refering to a "30 minutes banana cake" which everyone knows will take upwards of an hour to prep, mix and bake from scratch...

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 10:23 • by bobzilla
232308 in reply to 232305
dave:
You can rule out minute meaning small as the recipe requires 24 jumbo shrimps

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/rachael-ray/4-minute-spicy-garlic-shrimp-recipe/index.html



To make matters worse, here are the cooking instructions that say the actual shrimp apparently only take 3 minutes to cook.

"Heat a large skillet over medium high heat. Add extra-virgin olive oil, 2 turns of the pan, garlic, red pepper flakes and shrimp. Season with grill seasoning or salt and pepper and cook shrimp 3 minutes or until just pink. Toss with lemon zest, juice and chopped parsley. Remove shrimp to a serving platter leaving the garlic cloves in the pan."

Re: 4 Minutes to eat

2008-12-02 10:30 • by Steve H (unregistered)
232309 in reply to 232285
You know, if the entire world uses a word to mean X, then the word means X. That's what "meaning" is.

Just saying.

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 10:31 • by PseudoBovine (unregistered)
Can anyone who reads Hong-Kong-ian translate what is written above "Test in Progress"? Is it accurately translated, or is this another automated translation error WTF?

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 10:32 • by the monkey (unregistered)
No, no, they're minute shrimp, as in tiny.

So it's a recipe telling you how to spend 17 minutes cooking four insignificantly proportioned shrimp.

Re: 4 Minutes to eat

2008-12-02 10:41 • by mortah
232313 in reply to 232285
IT Girl:
AdT:
Anonymous:
Tino:
I've got it!

10-7=4


Ummmm... Yea, enough said. Note to self: check work with calculator before posting.


Note to self: check work with irony meter before posting.


Note to self: look up irony before misusing the word like the rest of the world


Note to self: look up how to look up look up tooling before reinventing the wheel as I wouldn't want to look silly by looking up how to look up look up tooling when someone else has already done this. They've possibly done it by dividing by 1,000.

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 10:46 • by SomeCoder (unregistered)
232314 in reply to 232276
Anon:
Perhaps 4 minutes is how long you have to run to the bathroom after eating the shrimp?


Being that it's a Rachel Ray recipe, I'd say it's probably got so much oil and fat in it, that after eating you have 4 minutes left to live.

Re: 4 Minutes to eat

2008-12-02 10:50 • by PseudoBovine (unregistered)
232315 in reply to 232285
IT Girl:
AdT:
Anonymous:
Tino:
I've got it!

10-7=4


Ummmm... Yea, enough said. Note to self: check work with calculator before posting.


Note to self: check work with irony meter before posting.


Note to self: look up irony before misusing the word like the rest of the world


From Merriam-Webster:

Irony:

1: a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning —called also Socratic irony


False conception: Shrimp that take 11+7 minutes to prepare can be rightly called "4 minute shrimp". Pretense of ignorance: "11-7=4". Willingness to learn from others: the unstated challenge to explain things such that they make sense.

2 a: the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning b: a usually humorous or sardonic literary style or form characterized by irony c: an ironic expression or utterance

Literal meaning: "I think 11-7=4." Intended meaning: "Calling it 4 minute shrimp is as dumb as thinking 11-7=4."
(By the way, "sardonic" means "derisively mocking")

3 a (1): incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2): an event or result marked by such incongruity

Normal or expected event: explanations make sense, or at least have no obvious flaws. Actual event: purported explanation makes no sense, and in fact has a glaring flaw.

3 b: incongruity between a situation developed in a drama and the accompanying words or actions that is understood by the audience but not by the characters in the play —called also dramatic irony tragic irony

Tino is playing the dumb forum participant who doesn't understand simple math. Anonymous is a charachter in the drama who doesn't understand the incongruity of the situation and the words used. We, the audience, are in on the joke, and understand completely what the intent of Tino's words were.

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Please join us again next week for another thrilling edition of "Hoisting pedants with their own petard."

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 10:51 • by JamesQMurphy
232316 in reply to 232314
SomeCoder:
Anon:
Perhaps 4 minutes is how long you have to run to the bathroom after eating the shrimp?


Being that it's a Rachel Ray recipe, I'd say it's probably got so much oil and fat in it, that after eating you have 4 minutes left to live.

Yummo!

Re: 4 Minutes to eat

2008-12-02 10:53 • by campkev
232317 in reply to 232285
IT Girl:
AdT:
Anonymous:
Tino:
I've got it!

10-7=4


Ummmm... Yea, enough said. Note to self: check work with calculator before posting.


Note to self: check work with irony meter before posting.


Note to self: look up irony before misusing the word like the rest of the world


i⋅ro⋅ny1   /ˈaɪrəni, ˈaɪər-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ahy-ruh-nee, ahy-er-]

–noun, plural -nies. 1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning

as in saying "I've got it" and then clearly demonstrating that you don't.

Re: 4 Minutes to eat

2008-12-02 11:00 • by Gyz (unregistered)
232318 in reply to 232309
Steve H:
You know, if the entire world uses a word to mean X, then the word means X. That's what "meaning" is.

Just saying.


*cough* You might want to look up the "meaning" of "homonym"

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 11:18 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
"Every time I refreshed the page," Arlen Phillips wrote


Argh argh argh! That picture is clearly from Firefox, so why is this doofus using Microsoft's dumb terminology for a browser's reload function?

Re: 4 Minutes to eat

2008-12-02 11:27 • by JimM
232334 in reply to 232317
campkev:
as in saying "I've got it" and then clearly demonstrating that you don't.

Ah, the irony... ;^)

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 11:36 • by Chief Cook (unregistered)
To those that could not follow the recipe:

- gather all the ingredients and tools (prep): estimated time 7 minutes
- heat the skillet: estimated time 6 minutes
- add ingredients to skillet: estimated time 1 minute
- wait for shrimp to cook: estimated time 3 minutes

Prep Time: 7 minutes
Total cook time: 10 minutes
Total time shrimp in the skillet: 4 minutes
Total time: 17 minutes

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 11:58 • by kennytm
232345 in reply to 232310
PseudoBovine:
Can anyone who reads Hong-Kong-ian translate what is written above "Test in Progress"? Is it accurately translated, or is this another automated translation error WTF?

It is an accurate translation of the Chinese ("測試進行中").

Re: Variable Shrimp

2008-12-02 12:21 • by asdfasf (unregistered)
The recipe is named "4-minutes", but I suppose someone actually tried to make it, and it actually took them 17.

This is typical with a lot of RR recipes.
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