1.4: The Contractor Door

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  • Wino 2008-02-15 09:03
    I'm still waiting for the "Mandatory Fun" to start happening with this comic!

  • jamface 2008-02-15 09:11
    Please, regardless of whether some people think it's funny or not, move this off the front page. The amount of allowable noise is taken up by ads already, I don't need this on there too, bumping the stuff I visit for off the bottom of my screen.


    Note from Alex: To help quell the bounty of boo-hooing over the need to use a "scroll bar" to bypass certain content, MFD is now displayed on the front page only in "Full Articles" view. If any further customizations are needed, please provide me with your IP Address your specific requirements so I can build a site just for you. Now, cue the "you're just doing that to increase page views" whining in 3... 2...
  • Matt 2008-02-15 09:12
    I applaud the attempts, especially since you are new to the world of web comics, but I am sure I can’t be the only one who doesn’t find them funny or witty.

    I remember reading somewhere on this site that so many entries are received every day, that not all of them are posted (at least not in a timely manner,) so why not just post an extra entry a day instead of this web comic?
  • Fred 2008-02-15 09:14
    Humor is a lot more funny if you don't spend time explaining why it was supposed to be funny.
  • CornedBee 2008-02-15 09:16
    Matt: the comic isn't more work for the people posting the articles. An article would be.


    I actually like the comic (*feels in the minority*), but Fred's right. Stop explaining them.
  • Reader 2008-02-15 09:18
    The comics are simply not funny and take up unnecessary space on the front page.
  • betlit 2008-02-15 09:18
    Matt:
    I applaud the attempts, especially since you are new to the world of web comics, but I am sure I can’t be the only one who doesn’t find them funny or witty.


    ....oh.... it's supposed to be funny...?


    (feel free to add the irony tags)
  • meg (not in IT) 2008-02-15 09:20
    All of you are such whiners and haters! I applaud the comedic efforts.
  • Now former reader 2008-02-15 09:23
    I've been reading The Daily WTF for years now. It was bad when the content moved from code to poor excused for articles. Fortunately, I can ignore those. It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit. This is my last comment, and, consequently, my last visit to The Daily WTF.
  • John the incredible 2008-02-15 09:24
    I liked the linux open sourcer and the cowboy. The recruiter and contractor door have both left me going "um... why's that funny?". Perhaps I just don't have enough real world experience to see the jokes. That being said, trolls are like sharks, they can smell blood, so you might be better off to stop with the apology paragraphs. Say "It's funny, so STFU noob" and leave it at that.
  • Loibisch 2008-02-15 09:24
    Seriously...I have been reading the site for a while but I've never actually commented. I'm doing this for one reason now:
    Please, please, PLEASE stop publishing those comics here on the front page. If you really want to keep making them then do it in some sub-category so those who absolutely don't find them funny or witty (like me) can more easily ignore them.

    By shoving them out to the front page to people who are beginning to get annoyed by them doesn't help making them more funny or liked.
  • KattMan 2008-02-15 09:25
    Here's an idea, make a comic relevent to then sites content. Create web comics that succinctly reflect an article for that day, have the comic follow the article.

    This does many things, keeps the site on target, gets to comic off the front page, provides more content, and still retains the comic in a visible location when reading the full article. Also no more need to explain them because the will accompany an article.

    I know this might seem like it will require prior knowledge of the upcoming articles but you could simply do this with the sidebar post that gets promoted.

    And yes, we all are critics. Look at this site, we are here to be critical. The first thing an artist needs is thick skin, talent is second.
  • blue.lizard 2008-02-15 09:25
    I liked this comic. I remember one gig as a contractor they gave me a tiny half-cube to work in and the computer didn't even fit on the desk and people were running into the back of my chair all the time because it was so cramped. The employees all got regular cubes, though. It was with a medical device company, and it was so unergonomic I needed to see a chiropractor after a month. So, yes, I see the humor in this.
  • Anonymous 2008-02-15 09:26
    George:

    Humor is quickly lost once explained. Your comics are good. With work, they will get better.

    But explaining them, IMHO, reduces their worth. My suggestion is to put your comics out there and feel confident in their ability to stand on their own.

    Once again, you don't suck, so just keep at it.

  • Stupidumb 2008-02-15 09:27
    jamface:
    Please, regardless of whether some people think it's funny or not, move this off the front page. The amount of allowable noise is taken up by ads already, I don't need this on there too, bumping the stuff I visit for off the bottom of my screen.


    You're basically saying "Screw everyone else, format this websites to fit my own personal desires, for I am JAMFACE".
    What a jerk-ass thing to say.
  • anononon 2008-02-15 09:27
    Didn't we tell you to stop this thing?
  • belgariontheking 2008-02-15 09:29
    Now former reader:
    I've been reading The Daily WTF for years now. It was bad when the content moved from code to poor excused for articles. Fortunately, I can ignore those. It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit. This is my last comment, and, consequently, my last visit to The Daily WTF.

    Thank God!
  • Stupidumb 2008-02-15 09:30
    Anonymous:
    George:
    Humor is quickly lost once explained. Your comics are good. With work, they will get better.

    But explaining them, IMHO, reduces their worth. My suggestion is to put your comics out there and feel confident in their ability to stand on their own.


    His (funny) explanation is just in response to all the comments complaining about his "poor" choice of subject matter.

    Anonymous:
    George:
    Once again, you don't suck, so just keep at it.

    I concur.
  • blue.lizard 2008-02-15 09:31
    Now former reader:
    I've been reading The Daily WTF for years now. It was bad when the content moved from code to poor excused for articles. Fortunately, I can ignore those. It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit. This is my last comment, and, consequently, my last visit to The Daily WTF.


    Don't let the door hit you on the way out, dude.
  • Volmarias 2008-02-15 09:34
    Matt:
    I applaud the attempts, especially since you are new to the world of web comics, but I am sure I can’t be the only one who doesn’t find them funny or witty.

    I remember reading somewhere on this site that so many entries are received every day, that not all of them are posted (at least not in a timely manner,) so why not just post an extra entry a day instead of this web comic?


    Yeah, this. I just don't like the new comics. They're poorly drawn, and just not funny. It's like Garfield; "Haha, the cat likes lasagna! Oh, what a card that Garfield is!" vs "Haha, contractors are treated like scum! Yet they're paid thrice what employees are! Oh, what a card that Alex is!"

    Sorry, but I'm hoping that this idea dies sooner rather than later.
  • Stevey 2008-02-15 09:40
    Its going from bad to worse to tragic. You can hear a pin drop over the laughter.
  • Stupidumb 2008-02-15 09:41
    Dear Alex,

    I really enjoy these comics when visiting this site, but that is as far as my enjoyment goes. I do not appreciate the wide variety of content that is available on this site. CodeSOD? Please, how is that even funny, the code is filled with bugs! Are you saying ALL PROGRAMMERS ARE INCOMPETENT?! I find that offensive.

    What about Error'd? If I wanted to take screen shots, I could do that myself! I have a keyboard, you know...geez.

    Please, PLEASE remove Feature Articles, CodeSOD, Tales from the Interview, Alex's Soapbox and Best of the Sidebar. They suck because I say so. They also prevent me from finding the comics as easily as I want because I have to use the - the... oh I can't even say it...THE SCROLL BAR! I'm sorry for the foul language. Also, say I wanted to see last week's comics again: I just want them too appear on the front page. You should predict this rework the site daily to fit my needs. Also, don't worry about the other readers, I speak for all of them.

    -Stupidumb III Esq.
  • dbs 2008-02-15 09:42
    Why is it so hard to keep on topic? Why does Alex constnatly try to invent new things on the site that have nothing to do with the content?

    Stick to the basics. Stick to what the daily wtf is for. About stories and interesting things in the IT industry that make you go "WTF?!?!" - If you want a comic blog, go for it, make a comic blog, but don't try to force these (very poor) comics onto your captive audience.

    Folks come to thedailywtf to read interesting articles and stories, not help jump start Yet Another Bad Online Webcomic.

  • KattMan 2008-02-15 09:45
    Stupidumb:
    Dear Alex,

    I really enjoy these comics when visiting this site, but that is as far as my enjoyment goes. I do not appreciate the wide variety of content that is available on this site. CodeSOD? Please, how is that even funny, the code is filled with bugs! Are you saying ALL PROGRAMMERS ARE INCOMPETENT?! I find that offensive.

    What about Error'd? If I wanted to take screen shots, I could do that myself! I have a keyboard, you know...geez.

    Please, PLEASE remove Feature Articles, CodeSOD, Tales from the Interview, Alex's Soapbox and Best of the Sidebar. They suck because I say so. They also prevent me from finding the comics as easily as I want because I have to use the - the... oh I can't even say it...THE SCROLL BAR! I'm sorry for the foul language. Also, say I wanted to see last week's comics again: I just want them too appear on the front page. You should predict this rework the site daily to fit my needs. Also, don't worry about the other readers, I speak for all of them.

    -Stupidumb III Esq.


    What a stupidumb thing to say.
  • Pete 2008-02-15 09:45
    dbs:
    Stick to the basics. Stick to what the daily wtf is for. About stories and interesting things in the IT industry that make you go "WTF?!?!"


    To be fair, these comics do make go "WTF?!?!"
  • Publius 2008-02-15 09:45
    This crap is like Scott Adams with Alzheimer's.
  • Phil 2008-02-15 09:47
    To anyone complaining about adverts and comic images spamming the front page:

    Let go of 1998, join the rest of us in 2008 AND LEARN TO USE RSS!

    Captcha: esse ... as in "USE THE ARR ESSE ESSE FEED!"
  • Anonymous 2008-02-15 09:48
    The better version.
  • jgoewert 2008-02-15 09:48
    I would have went with the current employees griping about how "those contractors are stealing our jerbs!" Though, this depiction isn't 100% accurate: most contractor doors also have rows of barbwire and a pit of mud to crawl through as well.

    I like the storyline setting for it so far. Though the kind of comments here make me think that the same people would pick up Wuthering Heights and say "This book is crap, I have read two pages and all that happened is some lame explanation of the current season in London. LAME!"
  • Publius 2008-02-15 09:50
    Why is the penis in the third frame so sad?
  • jamface 2008-02-15 09:51
    Stupidumb:
    jamface:
    Please, regardless of whether some people think it's funny or not, move this off the front page. The amount of allowable noise is taken up by ads already, I don't need this on there too, bumping the stuff I visit for off the bottom of my screen.


    You're basically saying "Screw everyone else, format this websites to fit my own personal desires, for I am JAMFACE".
    What a jerk-ass thing to say.


    No... not at all. Just it does take up a lot of space on the front page, and the site is about code related WTFs after all, not a comic. I just want to see the content that the site has traditionally been about, instead of a comic.
  • GalacticCowboy 2008-02-15 09:52
    blue.lizard:
    I liked this comic. I remember one gig as a contractor they gave me a tiny half-cube to work in and the computer didn't even fit on the desk and people were running into the back of my chair all the time because it was so cramped. The employees all got regular cubes, though. It was with a medical device company, and it was so unergonomic I needed to see a chiropractor after a month. So, yes, I see the humor in this.


    Project I was on, I was one of 4 contractors. One other guy and I started first; we got cubicles. The third guy got a half-size cubicle; the 4th got a folding table in a hallway. Then they moved the 3rd and 4th guys behind the (unused) reception desk. Then they moved the first two of us to the table where the 4th guy had been. Then they moved the other two to a table next to us. Then we all moved back to cubicles again, and then to a different set of cubicles. All of this over the course of about 6 weeks.

    Volmarias:
    "Haha, contractors are treated like scum! Yet they're paid thrice what employees are! Oh, what a card that Alex is!"


    The contracting company may be paid that much. Unless they're a true independent, the actual contractor probably isn't making much more - if any - than the employees.
  • curmudgeon 2008-02-15 09:55
    Volmarias:
    Matt:
    I applaud the attempts, especially since you are new to the world of web comics, but I am sure I can’t be the only one who doesn’t find them funny or witty.

    I remember reading somewhere on this site that so many entries are received every day, that not all of them are posted (at least not in a timely manner,) so why not just post an extra entry a day instead of this web comic?


    Yeah, this. I just don't like the new comics. They're poorly drawn, and just not funny. It's like Garfield; "Haha, the cat likes lasagna! Oh, what a card that Garfield is!" vs "Haha, contractors are treated like scum! Yet they're paid thrice what employees are! Oh, what a card that Alex is!"

    Sorry, but I'm hoping that this idea dies sooner rather than later.


    Feelings about the comics aside, you can do this to anything, including things that are legitimately funny. "Ha ha ha, most guitar amps only go to 10! But his is louder because it goes to 11! Hi-larious."
  • pitchingchris 2008-02-15 09:55
    blue.lizard:
    I liked this comic. I remember one gig as a contractor they gave me a tiny half-cube to work in and the computer didn't even fit on the desk and people were running into the back of my chair all the time because it was so cramped. The employees all got regular cubes, though. It was with a medical device company, and it was so unergonomic I needed to see a chiropractor after a month. So, yes, I see the humor in this.


    I agree. Some companies are better than others about treating contractors. Some actually treat them quite well and have a nice cooperative attitude with them and offer the companies resources. Others might place them wherever they can, even if its the utility closet :) I liked it because this is reflecting how some companies do treat contractors.
  • Stupidumb 2008-02-15 09:56
    KattMan:
    Stupidumb:

    Dear Alex,
    ...
    -Stupidumb III Esq.


    What a stupidumb thing to say.


    What a kattman thing to say.
  • vulputate 2008-02-15 09:56
    Sorry dude but as funny as "CAPTCHA: vulputate!!! lolz!"

    Add filters to the site so we can filter out the story types we don't like.
  • Publius 2008-02-15 09:57
  • Say What? 2008-02-15 09:57
    KattMan:
    Stupidumb:
    Dear Alex,

    I really enjoy these comics when visiting this site, but that is as far as my enjoyment goes. I do not appreciate the wide variety of content that is available on this site. CodeSOD? Please, how is that even funny, the code is filled with bugs! Are you saying ALL PROGRAMMERS ARE INCOMPETENT?! I find that offensive.

    What about Error'd? If I wanted to take screen shots, I could do that myself! I have a keyboard, you know...geez.

    Please, PLEASE remove Feature Articles, CodeSOD, Tales from the Interview, Alex's Soapbox and Best of the Sidebar. They suck because I say so. They also prevent me from finding the comics as easily as I want because I have to use the - the... oh I can't even say it...THE SCROLL BAR! I'm sorry for the foul language. Also, say I wanted to see last week's comics again: I just want them too appear on the front page. You should predict this rework the site daily to fit my needs. Also, don't worry about the other readers, I speak for all of them.

    -Stupidumb III Esq.


    What a stupidumb thing to say.
    Erm, He was being facetious
  • GalacticCowboy 2008-02-15 09:57
    I should also mention, they were doing construction at the time so lots of other people were being moved around too. At one point they were building a new set of cubicles directly behind us (when we were at the table) and they built them so close that everybody had to stand up and drag their chairs out of the way if someone wanted through.
  • Esse 2008-02-15 09:57
    Seriously, George, you're acting like a child, making people pat you on the back while you learn how to make a web comic.

    Why don't you just keep these things on your hard drive and show them to your mom? I'm sure she'll find them hilarious.
  • uggalabugga 2008-02-15 09:58
    Stop feeding this crap, please. Mandatory fun in my ... :-(

    CAPTCHA: transverbero - who, me?
  • GalacticCowboy 2008-02-15 09:58
    Say What?:
    Erm, He was being facetious


    Erm, so was he.
  • Stupidumb 2008-02-15 09:59
    Esse:
    Seriously, George, you're acting like a child, making people pat you on the back while you learn how to make a web comic.

    Why don't you just keep these things on your hard drive and show them to your mom? I'm sure she'll find them hilarious.


    I suggest you take your own advice regarding your comments.
  • Publius 2008-02-15 10:02
    Stupidumb:
    Esse:
    Seriously, George, you're acting like a child, making people pat you on the back while you learn how to make a web comic.

    Why don't you just keep these things on your hard drive and show them to your mom? I'm sure she'll find them hilarious.


    I suggest you take your own advice regarding your comments.


    How much you want to bet that Stupidumb is actually the author's mom.
  • Stupidumb 2008-02-15 10:02
    GalacticCowboy:
    Say What?:
    Erm, He was being facetious


    Erm, so was he.

    Erm, so was he.
  • Stupidumb 2008-02-15 10:03
    Publius:
    Stupidumb:
    Esse:
    Seriously, George, you're acting like a child, making people pat you on the back while you learn how to make a web comic.

    Why don't you just keep these things on your hard drive and show them to your mom? I'm sure she'll find them hilarious.


    I suggest you take your own advice regarding your comments.


    How much you want to bet that Stupidumb is actually the author's mom.

    I bet infinity dollars that I'm not.
  • Publius 2008-02-15 10:04
    Stupidumb:
    GalacticCowboy:
    Say What?:
    Erm, He was being facetious

    Erm, so was he.

    Erm, so was he.

    Erm, this penis isn't going to jerk itself.
  • KattMan 2008-02-15 10:11
    Stupidumb:
    GalacticCowboy:
    Say What?:
    Erm, He was being facetious


    Erm, so was he.

    Erm, so was he.

    Erm, so was I.
  • that guy 2008-02-15 10:13
    Volmarias:
    They're poorly drawn, and just not funny. It's like Garfield; "Haha, the cat likes lasagna! Oh, what a card that Garfield is!" vs "Haha, contractors are treated like scum! Yet they're paid thrice what employees are! Oh, what a card that Alex is!"


    Amen Volmarias! This is just as stupid as Monty Python.

    Oh my God, he has coconuts. I get it. That's sooooooo funny. And wait, a Swallow? I'm in stiches here. And then he asks if it's African? Stop, really. You're killing me.

    The Black Knight, in a sword fight. Gee, let me guess. Oh wait, his arm just got cut off. PRE-DICT-A-BLE. Is that blood? Oh geeze, I'm literally rolling around now on the floor. I get it. That's so histerical, really. Oh wait, could it be? Another arm! And blood spurting out??? Oh gosh, this is far too funny. There's no way anyone could have ever seen that coming, which is why it's just so goddamn funny.
  • Tei 2008-02-15 10:13
    Anonymous:
    The better version.


    haha.. that comic made me laught
  • modelnine 2008-02-15 10:14
    It'd be interesting to check out how many people haven't replied to one of the comic strips yet. Because, most probably, that non-vocal majority (including myself) actually thinks that the comics are fine, and fit the site and its theme perfectly (except for the fact that they're optimized for >1024x768, which is somewhat of a PITA for me).

    I simply don't have any bullshit to throw at them like some others here feel the need to do, and I guess quite some others feel the same.

    Keep 'em coming, I say!
  • rxd 2008-02-15 10:19
    Please stop polluting the site with this terrible excuse for comics.
  • Outlaw Programmer 2008-02-15 10:21
    OK guys, here's the solution. We need a new setting in addition to the Summary/Full Article one. It's called Normal/OMG Old Skool. Normal setting is the same as we have now. OMG Old Skool is for all these whiners. Instead of displaying all articles, it just displays DailyWTF articles from 2006. It also makes their comments invisible to everyone else.

    Seriously, how about a menu where we can check/uncheck the different types of articles to display on the front page? I like all of the articles personally, but I think this should be a pretty simple fix to keep everyone happy.
  • halber_mensch 2008-02-15 10:21
    Now former reader:
    I've been reading The Daily WTF for years now. It was bad when the content moved from code to poor excused for articles. Fortunately, I can ignore those. It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit. This is my last comment, and, consequently, my last visit to The Daily WTF.

    We, the readers of WTF, would like to express to you our thanks for your many months of readership and express our sincerest regret at the loss of your feedback...

    No, actually we could care less. You're not as important as you think you are, now piss off.
  • blindd0t 2008-02-15 10:22
    You got a whole half-cube to yourself? One time, I was contracting for a bank, and they gave me and another contractor a whole half-cube in the middle of their call center for us to share! (and yes, were were somehow both supposed to write code there, using one computer...). You can bet I got out of there as quickly as I could!
  • ThomsonsPier 2008-02-15 10:26
    In light of an earlier comment, I feel obliged to say that I don't really like the webcomic. The style is cluttered, the art is too poor for any material requiring visual humour and the material is old.

    It occurs to me that more private development time is necessary to bring the comic up to the standard of the rest of the site.

    Having said that, I'm quite happy to read it on the off chance that it finds its way and becomes funny at some point.
  • KattMan 2008-02-15 10:29
    Outlaw Programmer:

    Seriously, how about a menu where we can check/uncheck the different types of articles to display on the front page? I like all of the articles personally, but I think this should be a pretty simple fix to keep everyone happy.


    Best enhancement request evah! Scales well to future changes too. This would be like only getting the comics and the coupons in the daily paper as that is all I read; no extra fluff, no extra trash.
  • Elmo 2008-02-15 10:30
    Phil:
    LEARN TO USE RSS!


    These obnoxious comics are part of the feed as well. I asked whether we could have a second feed without them, and the comment was deleted.
  • Stewie 2008-02-15 10:30
    Oh very funny! Now tell the one that doesn't suck!

    http://www.skippypodar.net/Noise/StewieGriffin/famguy63.wav
  • Verto 2008-02-15 10:32
    I'm just going to add http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/mfd/* to my adblocker.

    Anyone know a filter I could use to block divs containing any sort of mention of mandatory fun?
  • shadowman 2008-02-15 10:37
    I think the comics are just fine, and am happy to see more content on the site.

    George, don't worry too much about the detractors. New content is like pizza. No matter where you get it from, some loudmouths are inevitably going to complain, "this sucks! Garry's Pizza-Down-The-Street makes waaaaaaay better pizza than this."

    Keep at it.
  • If you have to explain it... 2008-02-15 10:37
    Anytime someone tells a joke, and nobody gets it, and they have to explain it, nobody still laughs...

    While I don't mind the comics, I think that if you feel you have to explain it, then you've missed your mark. Either trust your storyboard, or go another way.
  • Ralph the wonder lllama 2008-02-15 10:46
    Wow would you like some cheese with your whine?

    If you don't like something then don't look at it.
  • Anonymous 2008-02-15 10:50
    shadowman:
    I think the comics are just fine, and am happy to see more content on the site.

    George, don't worry too much about the detractors. New content is like pizza. No matter where you get it from, some loudmouths are inevitably going to complain, "this sucks! Garry's Pizza-Down-The-Street makes waaaaaaay better pizza than this."

    Keep at it.

    Believe it or not, sometimes it's just your pizza that sucks.
  • Anonymous 2008-02-15 10:52
    Ralph the wonder lllama:
    Wow would you like some cheese with your whine?

    If you don't like something then don't look at it.

    Fascinating. I'll tell you the exact same thing next time you criticize anything.
  • jamface 2008-02-15 10:55
    Ralph the wonder lllama:
    If you don't like something then don't look at it.


    That's why I always say. They still call the police though...
  • anon 2008-02-15 10:56
    I've never posted a comment here before, but I've been reading for about a year.

    I like comics, and don't mind having them on the frontpage, but this one is really terrible.

    I don't mind the bad art, and I don't feel offended by the stereotypes, but these jokes are tired, predictable, and just not funny.

    I remember when they used this joke on the Simpsons years ago.
  • M.C. Sarbanes-Oxalot 2008-02-15 10:56
    Please, stop with the comics. This is The Daily WTF, a place where we come to read about outrageous things that really happened. Sometimes those things are uproariously hilarious, and sometimes they are only mildly funny.

    Yes, George's drawing skills are improving, and yes, I am sure one day one of the jokes will be almost funny. But this is not the place for comics. Please, stick them on the sidebar or host them somewhere else.

    I don't want to see the core mission of this site diluted by a web comic about nerddom -- my god, those are a dime a dozen on this internet.
  • Elmo 2008-02-15 10:58
    You know what? I take it all back. I was alternating between posting a complaint, looking into ways to block the comic, and thinking of unsubscribing from the feed.

    But now I realize that I don't want to miss it. I want to laugh at the futile effort of the comic, then come in here and listen to the hordes mocking it, and the apologists' weak attempts at rationalizing its continued existence.

    Well played, guys. Your subversive attempt at increasing readership loyalty by decreasing quality has hooked me. Worse is indeed better.
  • Stewart Johnson 2008-02-15 11:14
    Pleeeeeease stop it with these terrible comics! They're not funny and poorly drawn.

    I like DailyWTF, but not enough to put up with these comics. I don't want to unsubscribe, but if I see another one of these sh!t comics I'm done.
  • Spectre 2008-02-15 11:31
    OK, so I guess I'm the only one who likes both the comic and the descriptions. Fine.
  • Ben Wilhelm 2008-02-15 11:42
    I haven't replied before, and I think these comics are atrocious. They're not funny and the art is poor (seriously, that door? Learn perspective. Perspective is not the same thing as skewing.

    I enjoy the rest of the content, but at this point I only read the comics so I can marvel at how bad they are. If he's going for a metajoke it's brilliant, but if he's not, then, well . . . it isn't.

    The non-vocal majority does not necessarily follow your views - in my experience, the vocal people are actually a somewhat reasonable, if exaggerated, snapshot of the userbase. I suspect that the majority of the userbase thinks the comics stink, judging by the posts on this one.
  • jhb 2008-02-15 11:47
    jgoewert:
    I like the storyline setting for it so far. Though the kind of comments here make me think that the same people would pick up Wuthering Heights and say "This book is crap, I have read two pages and all that happened is some lame explanation of the current season in London. LAME!"


    But Wuthering Heights is lame.

    Regarding the comics, I find them mildly annoying and not too funny yet, but not worth leaving the site over.
  • Stupidumb 2008-02-15 11:54
    M.C. Sarbanes-Oxalot:
    Please, stop with the comics. This is The Daily WTF, a place where we come to read about outrageous things that really happened. Sometimes those things are uproariously hilarious, and sometimes they are only mildly funny.


    Do you have a problem when more than 1 article is posted in a day?
  • Rafa Larios 2008-02-15 11:54
    Stewart Johnson:
    I don't want to unsubscribe, but if I see another one of these sh!t comics I'm done.


    Please go away. You are not that important.

    by the way: I like the comics. they need work.. but i like them.
  • this webcomic is a wtf 2008-02-15 11:55
    Matt:
    I applaud the attempts, especially since you are new to the world of web comics, but I am sure I can’t be the only one who doesn’t find them funny or witty.

    I remember reading somewhere on this site that so many entries are received every day, that not all of them are posted (at least not in a timely manner,) so why not just post an extra entry a day instead of this web comic?


    PEOPLE, DO NOT EVEN "APPLAUD" THESE ATTEMPTS! TO "APPLAUD" THESE ATTEMPTS WILL ONLY ENCOURAGE MORE ATTEMPTS!
  • Anonymous Coward 2008-02-15 11:55
    I swear if there's another one of these bad comics I'll just stop visiting this site.
  • this webcomic is a wtf 2008-02-15 11:57
    meg (not in IT):
    All of you are such whiners and haters! I applaud the comedic efforts.


    DO NOT APPLAUD THESE "COMEDIC" EFFORTS. APPLAUDING THESE "COMEDIC" EFFORTS ONLY ENCOURAGES MORE FAILURE.
  • this webcomic is PURE WIN 2008-02-15 12:00
    Tei:
    Anonymous:
    The better version.


    haha.. that comic made me laught


    HOLY COW NOW THIS IS A WEBCOMIC!!!!!! *WILD APPLAUSE*
  • Stupidumb 2008-02-15 12:17
    Elmo:
    You know what? I take it all back. I was alternating between posting a complaint, looking into ways to block the comic, and thinking of unsubscribing from the feed.

    But now I realize that I don't want to miss it. I want to laugh at the futile effort of the comic, then come in here and listen to the hordes mocking it, and the apologists' weak attempts at rationalizing its continued existence.

    Well played, guys. Your subversive attempt at increasing readership loyalty by decreasing quality has hooked me. Worse is indeed better.


    In what ways are the rationalization attempts weak?
    Give me an object example.
    In what way is it a subversive attempt? Did they lie to us? Are they using subliminal techniques to display the comments?
    Man, how DARE they try to add something new to the site in hopes that the readers like it! Of course that's what the site owners want to do. Just because you don't like any given section doesn't mean they tried to "scam" us or something.
  • Stupidumb 2008-02-15 12:20
    this webcomic is a wtf:
    Matt:
    I applaud the attempts, especially since you are new to the world of web comics, but I am sure I can’t be the only one who doesn’t find them funny or witty...


    PEOPLE, DO NOT EVEN "APPLAUD" THESE ATTEMPTS! TO "APPLAUD" THESE ATTEMPTS WILL ONLY ENCOURAGE MORE ATTEMPTS!


    Although you used CAPS, you give no objective evidence for discouraging more attempts. BTW, saying "I don't think it's funny" is a subjective statement and does not qualify.
  • BlackHat 2008-02-15 12:21
    Very Good Comic keep going =)
  • Lee 2008-02-15 12:25
    Really, this comic is like those people who go on American Idol auditions when they just can't sing at all.

    It's just not funny. I mean, it's not. The author clearly tries hard but seems to have left the funny in his other pants; I'd think it's his friends' responsibility to tell him this.

    captcha: caecus?
  • Jeff 2008-02-15 12:30
    I'm in the group "these comics aren't funny but I'll give them a chance." Sometimes it takes a bit to hit a rhythm, and while it'd be nice if they were great right out of the gate, it ain't always possible.

    Though one suggestion - make the subject of the comics even more closely aligned with this site. There is rich opportunity for site in-jokes, for depiciting and ridiculing terrible coders, etc. I'd offer suggestions but I prefer to leave it up to you (the comic's author).
  • Anonymous 2008-02-15 12:32
    Stupidumb:
    Elmo:
    You know what? I take it all back. I was alternating between posting a complaint, looking into ways to block the comic, and thinking of unsubscribing from the feed.

    But now I realize that I don't want to miss it. I want to laugh at the futile effort of the comic, then come in here and listen to the hordes mocking it, and the apologists' weak attempts at rationalizing its continued existence.

    Well played, guys. Your subversive attempt at increasing readership loyalty by decreasing quality has hooked me. Worse is indeed better.


    In what ways are the rationalization attempts weak?
    Give me an object example.
    In what way is it a subversive attempt? Did they lie to us? Are they using subliminal techniques to display the comments?
    Man, how DARE they try to add something new to the site in hopes that the readers like it! Of course that's what the site owners want to do. Just because you don't like any given section doesn't mean they tried to "scam" us or something.

    I think you need this:
  • She Is Legion 2008-02-15 12:43
    You know, I don't like CodeSOD. I don't code, so it really holds no relevance for me. But, just because a feature I don't enjoy pops onto the front page every so often in no way means that I don't generally enjoy reading the stuff here. If you don't like it, just skip it. So many of you sound like those internet n00bs over at Livejournal who cry LJ CUT PLZ whenever something appears that sullies their friends list. Here's a tip: join the 21st century and use an RSS reader. If you don't know what one is, don't know why you should use one, or can't be bothered to use one...well, then The Daily WTF is probably too highbrow for you, anyways.

    Maybe it strikes out sometimes, but who doesn't? Thanks, Alex and company, for entertaining with some truly WTFs.
  • Stupidumb 2008-02-15 12:46
    Anonymous:
    Stupidumb:
    Elmo:
    You know what? I take it all back. I was alternating between posting a complaint, looking into ways to block the comic, and thinking of unsubscribing from the feed.

    But now I realize that I don't want to miss it. I want to laugh at the futile effort of the comic, then come in here and listen to the hordes mocking it, and the apologists' weak attempts at rationalizing its continued existence.

    Well played, guys. Your subversive attempt at increasing readership loyalty by decreasing quality has hooked me. Worse is indeed better.


    In what ways are the rationalization attempts weak?
    Give me an object example.
    In what way is it a subversive attempt? Did they lie to us? Are they using subliminal techniques to display the comments?
    Man, how DARE they try to add something new to the site in hopes that the readers like it! Of course that's what the site owners want to do. Just because you don't like any given section doesn't mean they tried to "scam" us or something.

    I think you need this:
    *CLEVER IMAGE*

    Wow, not bad. Instead of answering any of my questions, just post an image that is meant to imply that I don't have a clue. You must have what, 8 Phds? And if you think I don't have a clue, why not give me an actual one? Now, I assume that you can't answer my questions.
  • Gryc 2008-02-15 12:48
    Makes you wish you'd stayed home and helped the "Cause", eh, Job-Boy? ;)
  • KludgeQueen 2008-02-15 12:59
    jgoewert:
    I would have went with the current employees griping about how "those contractors are stealing our jerbs!" Though, this depiction isn't 100% accurate: most contractor doors also have rows of barbwire and a pit of mud to crawl through as well.

    I like the storyline setting for it so far. Though the kind of comments here make me think that the same people would pick up Wuthering Heights and say "This book is crap, I have read two pages and all that happened is some lame explanation of the current season in London. LAME!"

    ... but it WAS crap. I read a couple of chapters of it for an elective class in high school; hated the book so much I dropped the class. What kind of person would like Wuthering Heights? (And by the way, what does the verb "to wuther" mean anyway? ;-) )
  • MFD Hater 2008-02-15 13:01
    For those of you who hate these comics, install the following as either a Firefox Greasemonkey or Opera Userscript.

    // ==UserScript==
    // @name No MFD
    // @namespace nunya
    // @description Removes Mandatory Fun Day
    // @include http://thedailywtf.com/
    // ==/UserScript==
    divs = document.getElementsByTagName('div');
    for(i=0;i<divs.length;i++){
    attribs = divs[i].attributes;
    for(j=0;j<attribs.length;j++)
    if(attribs[j].value.search(/Mandatory_Fun_Day_Outer/)>-1)
    divs[i].parentNode.removeChild(divs[i]);
    }
  • Nazca 2008-02-15 13:02
    Hmmm, so it's a door that they made smaller? Does that mean it is a contractdoor?

    Anyway....
    The Computer is your friend. Criticising the comic is treason! Please enjoy your Mandatory Fun, entertainment for all your clone family.



  • this webcomic is a wtf 2008-02-15 13:03
    Stupidumb:
    this webcomic is a wtf:
    Matt:
    I applaud the attempts, especially since you are new to the world of web comics, but I am sure I can’t be the only one who doesn’t find them funny or witty...


    PEOPLE, DO NOT EVEN "APPLAUD" THESE ATTEMPTS! TO "APPLAUD" THESE ATTEMPTS WILL ONLY ENCOURAGE MORE ATTEMPTS!


    Although you used CAPS, you give no objective evidence for discouraging more attempts. BTW, saying "I don't think it's funny" is a subjective statement and does not qualify.


    I think "stupidumb" was trying to make a point, but was prevented from doing so by his amazingly accurate username.

  • Cesar 2008-02-15 13:18
    I like the site. I like the feed.

    But if these comics keep coming in i will unsuscribe and delete the existence of the site of my memory.

  • Thank you Alex 2008-02-15 13:21
    jamface:
    Note from Alex: To help quell the bounty of boo-hooing over the need to use a "scroll bar" to bypass certain content, MFD is now displayed on the front page only in "Full Articles" view. If any further customizations are needed, please provide me with your IP Address your specific requirements so I can build a site just for you. Now, cue the "you're just doing that to increase page views" whining in 3... 2...


    Nice compromise, no reason for the whining to continue now.
  • Darth Mainer 2008-02-15 13:22
    Put this pre-adolescent shit in a separate RSS feed.
  • dnm 2008-02-15 13:29
    jamface:
    Please, regardless of whether some people think it's funny or not, move this off the front page. The amount of allowable noise is taken up by ads already, I don't need this on there too, bumping the stuff I visit for off the bottom of my screen.


    Note from Alex: To help quell the bounty of boo-hooing over the need to use a "scroll bar" to bypass certain content, MFD is now displayed on the front page only in "Full Articles" view. If any further customizations are needed, please provide me with your IP Address your specific requirements so I can build a site just for you. Now, cue the "you're just doing that to increase page views" whining in 3... 2...


    if (users_lost_by('stupid comic', 'shitty new articles', 'dumb namechange', 'ads') < ALL) {
    ridicule_users_by('alienation');
    }

    Brilliant.

    *removes dailywtf from google reader*
  • zip 2008-02-15 13:32
    I don't understand this "omg get it out of the rss feed" thing. What are you guys using to read rss that makes it so annoying? I use google reader in list view, it takes up a single line. I see it come up. I click "mark as read," it goes away.

    Plus at this point, I'm still amused by how awful it is, so I want to keep checking on its status. I'm sure at some point I will tire mocking terrible jokes from 10 years ago, but I'm not there yet.
  • Shakespeare 2008-02-15 13:32
    Ok. This is not even scary!
  • Jeff 2008-02-15 13:37
    Wow blue.lizard, until you said it was at a medical device company I was going to ask if we sat near each other at Wal-Mart's home office.

    BTW, what's with the folks whining about the comic? Jebus.
  • rxd 2008-02-15 13:47
    I've created a Yahoo! Pipe that filters it out:
    http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=HP1_d9vb3BGwjgZT8jxBKg

    enjoy
  • Tom Woolf 2008-02-15 13:47
    Keep up MFD. The change to make the comic viewable in full view mode only should quiet those who want only to read of idgits or laugh at some other's code (because you *know* they'd never ever ever do anything so silly).
  • ferd 2008-02-15 13:49
    Haha oh hey this still isn't funny.
  • M.C. Sarbanes-Oxalot 2008-02-15 13:52
    No, I don't. My position is not one founded on a pedantic literal reading of the site title, but one founded in a desire to see TDWTF stick to what it's best at, and what people come here daily to see. That's real-world WTFs in development and IT. That's why we're all here. And this site does it the best. Let's not crowd out that enjoyable mission with this low-quality, off-topic comic.
  • greyrat 2008-02-15 13:53
    HEY! PEOPLE! CHILL OUT, STOP WHINING AND GET OVER IT!!! If you don't like it:

    1. Make your own website
    2. Make your own website popular
    3. ???
    4. Profit

    Otherwise STFU. Oh and learn how to draw for yourself -- against overwhelming criticism.
  • Covarr 2008-02-15 14:02
    I read Wuthering Heights all the way through, and I didn't like it. If I'm going to read something by a Bronte, I'll chose Jane Eyre any day.

    What software are you using to make these comics? It's nice to see that you got a smaller filesize than last time, it's still unreasonably large for something of such little detail. While it's no problem for me, some people still don't have access to anything faster than dialup; an image with this level of detail should not take over a minute to load, even for a 28.8 modem.

    As far as the comic itself, I think it's pretty funny. Definitely better than a lot of other things that have managed to survive for far too many years (Will & Grace should have been canceled first season, it was terrible).
  • this webcomic is a wtf 2008-02-15 14:04
    greyrat:
    HEY! PEOPLE! CHILL OUT, STOP WHINING AND GET OVER IT!!! If you don't like it:

    1. Make your own website
    2. Make your own website popular
    3. ???
    4. Profit

    Otherwise STFU. Oh and learn how to draw for yourself -- against overwhelming criticism.


    Wow, I've never seen those 4 steps before! You should try those on slashdot!
  • Emil 2008-02-15 14:05
    Ok, all these complaints are starting to appall me. The ratio between positive and negative complaints is asymptotically converging towards zero. I think Alex and the others are doing a fabolous job with this site, and most of the criticism is just unfounded whining.

    As for the comic. Well, I can agree that the humour hasn't been top of the line yet, but hey - let's give it a chance. Most of the established comics that I read and love was of questionable quality in the beginning, but they evolved, and I think this one will too. Lets wait and see what happens.

    And George, don't be discouraged by all this. Stop making excuses and stand by your work. The internet is a rough place, and the satisfied people are generally considerable more quiet than the flamers. I, and a lot of other people, will be delighted to see how this turns out. :)
  • KattMan 2008-02-15 14:11
    Tom Woolf:
    Keep up MFD. The change to make the comic viewable in full view mode only should quiet those who want only to read of idgits or laugh at some other's code (because you *know* they'd never ever ever do anything so silly).


    Yeah good compromise for now, but I would still like to see something that gives us the option of what we would like to see on the front page. That would future proof all other new content.

    The way the site is going, it was a place to read just about weird things in the wild, it is becoming more of a internet newsletter with ads, comics, opinion articles and an interactive section. All this could be a good thing, but when you start getting that much content, the current format starts to fall apart.

    Let us choose what pieces we want to see up front and you prevent these kinds of things in the future as the site continues to grow.
  • NotAnEnglishMajor 2008-02-15 14:31
    The interweb is such a wonderful place. What freedom!

    If you don't like the site, no one is forcing you to come here. STFU.

    Think you could do better? Great! You are welcome to try. I'll even be happy to visit your site if you do. Otherwise STFU.

    Dissatisfied with the content here? Then ask for a refund and you will get what you deserve. Nothing, which is exactly what you contributed.

    So STFU and stop whining.

    For what it is worth, I enjoy this site. Alex et al, please keep doing what you are doing. You don't need to change a thing.

    -NotAn
  • Formerly Barfing 4 Eva 2008-02-15 14:47
    Now former reader:
    I've been reading The Daily WTF for years now. It was bad when the content moved from code to poor excused for articles. Fortunately, I can ignore those. It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit. This is my last comment, and, consequently, my last visit to The Daily WTF.


    For so many years and with such a deep connection to the site, he/she parts ways under the name of "now former reader". So sad. I can tell you, were all in tears to see you go... Really. Now that you, a former reader, has departed, I have no reason to continue coming to this site, I guess...

    BTW, I thought this was the best comic yet. Didn't care for the other ones, but I found this one funny.
  • mathmoi 2008-02-15 14:57
    Now former reader:
    I've been reading The Daily WTF for years now. It was bad when the content moved from code to poor excused for articles. Fortunately, I can ignore those. It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit. This is my last comment, and, consequently, my last visit to The Daily WTF.


    I can't help but to notice that this place look more and more like the World of Warcraft's forums.

    And as they say there, quit already, no need to tell us...

    unless you're not really quitting. In every case, we don't care, so move along.
  • KattMan 2008-02-15 15:11
    Now former reader:
    I've been reading The Daily WTF for years now. It was bad when the content moved from code to poor excused for articles. Fortunately, I can ignore those. It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit. This is my last comment, and, consequently, my last visit to The Daily WTF.


    Fine, I'm taking my posts and going home, so there!
  • Arenzael 2008-02-15 15:14
    Le sigh, all of those negative nancies seem to really hate this sight in general. Oh well, I still love this site and I still visit every day. I also dig the comic strip. You see, I appreciate sarcasm. Especially today's comic strip. I used to be a DoD contractor, and wow did that suck.
  • Anonymous 2008-02-15 15:20
    I only come here once and a while. A few of the articles here give me a chuckle.

    These comics themselves aren't very funny, but I love the reaction they're getting. Christ, you people act like he's burning jews or something. What a whiny little bunch of nerds. If you don't like the comic I don't see what's so terribly difficult about ignoring them.
  • Stupidumb 2008-02-15 15:25
    M.C. Sarbanes-Oxalot:
    No, I don't. My position is not one founded on a pedantic literal reading of the site title, but one founded in a desire to see TDWTF stick to what it's best at, and what people come here daily to see. That's real-world WTFs in development and IT. That's why we're all here. And this site does it the best. Let's not crowd out that enjoyable mission with this low-quality, off-topic comic.


    Is the comic really that off topic? May I assume that even it were funnier and within your threshold of relevancy, you still wouldn't want the comic here because it taints the purity of the site (to only involve user-submitted stories)?

    From my point of view, it's relevant (IT related humor) and has the same goal as the stories: make us laugh at all the IT ridiculousness that goes on.
  • Siegfried von Schtauffen 2008-02-15 15:38
    Hey, I have an idea - how about separate RSS feeds for the various categories. I mean, some people may like this comic, but I wouldn't lose any sleep if I never saw it again, even accidentally.
  • chimaera 2008-02-15 16:08
    Look guys . . .you're criticising MFD because it isn't funny but, but, was Krazy Kat . .'funny' ? Dilbert? Steve Bell? Robert Crumb? PBF? Am I the only one that thinks some/any of elliptical/whacky/thought provoking/whimsical/just-so-spot-on in some undefinable way that we tech-heads can't articulate/ - is reason enough?
    (um . . .somehow I suspect the answer is 'yes')
  • Bob X 2008-02-15 16:25
    Now former reader:
    It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit.


    Actually AdBlock is quite effective at blocking the (not funny) comic, as well as the (no one cares) pictures of junk that people sent in to get a sticker.

    -jh
  • Bob X 2008-02-15 16:27
    Yes, I am quoting myself...

    Bob X:
    Actually AdBlock is quite effective at blocking the (not funny) comic, as well as the (no one cares) pictures of junk that people sent in to get a sticker.


    The real WTF here is why everyone is complaining about the comic, which, though not very funny, is at least sort-of on-topic; yet no one is complaining about the gimongous article in which we are shown pictures of garbage from 'round the world...
  • chimaera 2008-02-15 16:42
    Well, the whole raison d'etre of this site is pictures of garbage from 'round the world, wouldn't you say?
  • Bob X 2008-02-15 16:46
    NotAnEnglishMajor:
    The interweb is such a wonderful place. What freedom! If you don't like the site, no one is forcing you to come here. STFU.

    Very true; no one is forcing me to visit TDWTF. Yet, as you stated, we are in a free forum, and we may express our opinions about the comic and about the site in general. Simply because you disagree with me, you should not tell me to STFU. Unless you DON'T want it to be a free forum.

    Choose, but choose wisely.

    NotAnEnglishMajor:
    Think you could do better? Great! You are welcome to try. I'll even be happy to visit your site if you do. Otherwise STFU.

    That is a very childish response and is simply not the way the world works. Simply because I am not highly qualified at something does not mean I cannot recognize the quality (or lack thereof) of someone else's effort.

    - I am not a professional football player, yet I can determine that Peyton Manning is a better quarterback than Brian Griese.

    - I am not a professional musician, yet I can determine that Luciano Pavarotti is a better singer than William Shatner.

    - I am not a published author, but I can determine that William Shakespeare is a better author than Dean Koontz.

    Do you see my point? (Nothing personal, fans of Griese, Shatner, and Koontz... I hope you see what I mean)

    I may not be a published comic artist, but I can tell you that this comic is not very good.

    NotAnEnglishMajor:
    Dissatisfied with the content here? Then ask for a refund and you will get what you deserve. Nothing, which is exactly what you contributed.

    Not true... I contributed my opinion and a thought-out argument, which is more than what YOU contributed (i.e. whining).

    NotAnEnglishMajor:
    So STFU and stop whining.

    "Come in kettle, come in kettle, this is the pot... you're BLACK!"

    NotAnEnglishMajor:
    For what it is worth, I enjoy this site. Alex et al, please keep doing what you are doing. You don't need to change a thing.

    For what it's worth, I enjoy the site as well and have it in my Morning Coffee (great Firefox add-on, btw).

    But as I said in the recent poll, I like it because of the type of content that was on the site a year ago, and I am not happy with the direction the site is moving. But that's why there is a scrollbar (and AdBlock).

    captcha: ingeium (I barely know um)
  • Bob X 2008-02-15 16:46
    chimaera:
    Well, the whole raison d'etre of this site is pictures of garbage from 'round the world, wouldn't you say?

    touche!
  • Bob X 2008-02-15 16:47
    chimaera:
    Well, the whole raison d'etre of this site is pictures of garbage from 'round the world, wouldn't you say?

    touche!
  • GalacticCowboy 2008-02-15 16:51
    KludgeQueen:
    What kind of person would like Wuthering Heights? (And by the way, what does the verb "to wuther" mean anyway? ;-) )


    It's from the old English "woder", meaning "to give up half-way through for no apparent reason." ;)
  • HaunchesMcGee 2008-02-15 16:59
    I haven't found any of these comics to be funny so far, but I'm hoping they'll get better because I wouldn't mind reading a (funny) webcomic on this site.

    <criticism>
    The problem here is that it isn't enough to draw a few pictures of some old joke/sterotype/observation/etc. You have to, as Ezra Pound says, "Make it new," that is, you have to surprise us. Take for instance, comic 1.3. "Ha ha, look at the open-sourcer, he still lives with his mommy, lol!" Where's the new? When you have a guy like Richard Stallman running about, you can hardly expect such a bland representation of that group to be funny.

    1.4 is more of the same. Most of us already know that contractors get treated like crap, and instead of giving us a new perspective on how contractors get treated like crap, you've given us this weak doggy-door metaphor. I think something a little more concrete might have worked better.
    </criticism>

  • DZ-Jay 2008-02-15 16:59
    George:
    It seems like you are trying really hard to make sure a viewer understands that the joke is funny and why. And this makes the comic, well, not very funny.

    Today's comic had potential, but again it failed to offer a funny angle on your observation. Don't make your point so obvious and perhaps that'll help. Here's an example of how today's comic could have been better:

    [Panel One]
    Kid is walking towards a door that says "ACME, Inc. - Employees Only"

    [Panel Two]
    Kid shows swiping his access card on and failing, caption says "Hey! it won't open!"

    [Panel Three]
    Guard looks up at kid and says "First day?", kid says "Yah."

    [Panel Four]
    Guard points at previously unseen small, cat-door next to the regular door, with a graphitti scribble saying "contractors".

    That's it, no more words on it, no extra explanations.

    That's just out of the top of my head. But you see, I managed to put in the suggestion that the kid is a contractor, that it's his very first day, and that contractors suck so bad that they are not treated as regular people. All with minimal dialog.

    Cheers,
    -dZ.
  • Jon B 2008-02-15 17:31
    I feel lucky that, unlike many other readers, I am not held at gunpoint and forced to read this site. Nor am I paying a huge monthly fee with a long term commitment. I also have the freedom to pick and choose which articles to read.

    It must suck for everyone else.
  • Steve 2008-02-15 17:51
    Gryc:
    Makes you wish you'd stayed home and helped the "Cause", eh, Job-Boy? ;)


    ROFL! Good one.

    The comic strip is pretty good. Like most things it will improve with work and time.

    Ever see Gary Larsons first comics? (in some far side collection). That guys work improved a lot (to put it kindly).
  • paul 2008-02-15 18:39
    this comic is consistently bad.

    can we at least have an rss feed that doesn't include this crap?
  • AC 2008-02-15 19:00
    Meh.
  • Been There 2008-02-15 19:09
    Keep at it, and don't let the negative commentary get to you.

    A new web comic strip is a lot like starting out in stand up - it takes experience to refine and its very hard to hit the ground running from the start.

    That said, constructive (hopefully) criticism:

    Try putting more time into the brainstorming when you come up with ideas...the door is okay... not exceptionally 'good' and was done on The Simpsons (as someone mentioned.)

    Keep at it until you feel you have something better than 'good' and qualifies as 'great' - then see if you can take it up any further.

    I'm sure it'll keep improving as time goes on, so stick with it for sure.


    Don't forget too, as this is a site that picks apart the worst of the worst code out there... 90% of posters are highly critical and vie for status by ripping on everything they see here. Ever see a newb make a 'I would have done...' response to a WTF? The poor bugger's solution will always be torn to the four corners of the Earth in the following feeding frenzy.

    This site isn't a democracy, so it doesn't matter how many people don't like it - many do, so I am sure it'll stay.

    Its basically the same as a newspaper...but newspapers don't have 100s of 'letters to the editor' in every issue calling to remove whatever section some reader doesn't happen to read.
  • Quinnum 2008-02-15 19:13
    The increasingly whiney WTF readership:

    Whinge whine don't like the comic whaaaaah whinge


    There, fixed that for you all
  • Owen 2008-02-15 19:21
    When I was a contractor there was a policy at a certain mutual funds company that only EMPLOYEES were allowed to use the game room or gym. NO contractors. But since these were fairly open access areas as long as you had a badge, it was easy for contractors who didn't know the rules to violate them. One contractor got into trouble because the CIO (a total dickhead) saw him in the game room ONE TIME. Funny thing is, he was in there with somebody else (an employee), didn't even want to be there, and was one of the most straight-laced, by-the-book, hard working guys you'd ever want to meet. Nevermind, when it came time to renew his contract, DICKHEAD CIO said no. Glad I'm outta that place, but it was fun for a while.
  • el_oscuro 2008-02-15 19:35
    I didn't initially see the Joke about the 2003 Year of Linux, but it is classic! The real WTF (for me anyway) is it is true. 2003 was the year of Linux (for me). My old computer had died. Windows security problems were mounting, and Win2k pro cost $199 at Microcenter. Right next to it was Red Hat 8 for $49. The rest is history.

    For those of you complaining about the artwork, check out the original Dilbert strips at http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/news_and_history/html/the_dawn_of_dilbert.html
  • jon 2008-02-15 20:46
    Whatever, I like this comic ... The recruiter one is freaking PRICELESS!!!!! Screw you haters.

    The real WTF here is some of you morons aren't using RSS feeds to access the new content.
  • Jack Lukic 2008-02-15 21:51
    Pretty inflammatory remarks for a comic that repeatedly muscles the same joke. Novelty is humor, surprise us!
  • k 2008-02-15 22:10
    adblock this string:
    http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/mfd/*

    that gets rid of the comic. still doesn't fix the rss feeds.
  • Matt 2008-02-15 22:42
    Some people will bitch if you hang em with a new rope.
  • Anonymous 2008-02-16 06:02
    Jon B:
    I feel lucky that, unlike many other readers, I am not held at gunpoint and forced to read this site. Nor am I paying a huge monthly fee with a long term commitment. I also have the freedom to pick and choose which articles to read.

    It must suck for everyone else.

    Boo hoo hoo, they dun like sumthin I like.

    Get over it. Noone forces YOU to read these comments.
  • Annoyed Anonymous Reader 2008-02-16 09:30
    I'm not one of those people who thinks that my comment must be heard on every subject or that I'm that important. I just want to break my silence (I'm sure that you have been waiting for MY opinion with baited breath) to let you know that I enjoy the comic.

    I'm guessing that the rest of the non self-important silent majority either enjoy it or don't find it necessary to post their opinions. I suspect that most of us understand that this web site is supported by someone else who takes the time to entertain us and that if we don't like a certain portion of the site, we can just skip over it.

    Heres a tip for those who are annoyed by the "clutter" that help to pays for this site in order to entertain you: Get an operating system higher than Windows 95, add a little memory to your system, throw out the 300 baud modem and invest in cable. Hell, even dsl will probably help.
  • Annoyed Anonymous Reader 2008-02-16 09:36
    Now former reader:
    I've been reading The Daily WTF for years now. It was bad when the content moved from code to poor excused for articles. Fortunately, I can ignore those. It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit. This is my last comment, and, consequently, my last visit to The Daily WTF.


    I have no idea who you are, but I sure am going to mourn your loss. <<dramatic sob>>
  • k 2008-02-16 11:19
    jon:
    Whatever, I like this comic ... The recruiter one is freaking PRICELESS!!!!! Screw you haters.

    The real WTF here is some of you morons aren't using RSS feeds to access the new content.


    you see who you have on your side, mfd-supporters? a guy who uses sentences like "Screw you haters." good luck
  • Kaninchen 2008-02-16 11:40
    That needn't mean that George E. McDougall is Alex's boyfriend, or did he himself say that?
  • Regular user 2008-02-16 12:24
    Well, I like the new comics and the variety of articles posted on the front page.

    Here's hoping all of these negative comments are just a vocal minority..

    Keep up the good work !
  • lolman 2008-02-16 12:42
    As long as the presence of this comic is not at the expense of the other stuff, I don't see a reason to complain .
    I've seen worst comics wich were 'better drawn' the quality of art is irrelevant .
  • tombom 2008-02-16 16:24
    Anonymous:
    The better version.


    I didn't understand the front page comic but this made laugh out loud.
  • TheLoneCoder 2008-02-16 17:15
    Hahahaha, this shit is so funny. Some days I really enjoy reading the commentary about your comic more than the comic itself. I mean, the COBOL cowbow, WTF... it belongs on TheDailyWTF... and then he has sausage fingers or some sh&nbsp;t (<- see the effective use of a space) wait a minute... maybe i should have written sh&ampnbsp;t to prevent some fancy shmancy html decoder of actually putting a space down. we'll see.

    it does not help to typed comments while you are stoned. get distracted too easily... where was I.

    yeah, i like the comic, who cares if it sucks. everything sucks. you can't call yourself great if you have not sucked once. all of you coders out there... when you started, did you not suck?

    give the guy a f&ampnbsp;ck&ampnbsp;ng chance. I think he has way too much time on his hands, but he gives all you lamo's out there a chance to blab out comments that make us !lamo's laugh histerically.

    TheLoneCoder OUT!
  • Iam 2008-02-16 18:39
    I'm almost looking forward to the next pathetic iteration of this thing.
    BTW, "alex's soapbox"? Let's all get together and learn to be better microsoft sharecropers.
  • DannyV 2008-02-16 20:26
    Now former reader:
    I've been reading The Daily WTF for years now. It was bad when the content moved from code to poor excused for articles. Fortunately, I can ignore those. It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit. This is my last comment, and, consequently, my last visit to The Daily WTF.


    Oh no! Somebody who doesn't read ads - who comes here all the time, has been reading forever, and doesn't give anything back. Dude - you couldn't even take the time to register. You won't be missed.
  • real_aardvark 2008-02-16 20:37
    Now former reader:
    I've been reading The Daily WTF for years now. It was bad when the content moved from code to poor excused for articles. Fortunately, I can ignore those. It was worse when they started running ads. Thank goodness for AdBlock! But now - this comic - that's it, I quit. This is my last comment, and, consequently, my last visit to The Daily WTF.

    For, I hope, the second and last time, I haven't scrolled through the comments.

    Now former reader (unregistered)?

    Goodbye, my friend. You will be sorely missed. Does your little mousy grave have an address, just in case we want to send it flowers from 1-800-FLOWERS?

    Fare ye well, Algernon.

    This is not a sneaky advert, btw. I truly loved this guy, and I appreciate his withered aesthetics. There should be more like this.

    Oh ... wait ... one last thing. You mean you only visit TDWTF to comment? That's kind of like going to a whore-house and telling the girl that "my wife can do better than that."

    Have a nice life.
  • real_aardvark 2008-02-16 20:42
    jamface:
    Please, regardless of whether some people think it's funny or not, move this off the front page. The amount of allowable noise is taken up by ads already, I don't need this on there too, bumping the stuff I visit for off the bottom of my screen.


    Note from Alex: To help quell the bounty of boo-hooing over the need to use a "scroll bar" to bypass certain content, MFD is now displayed on the front page only in "Full Articles" view. If any further customizations are needed, please provide me with your IP Address your specific requirements so I can build a site just for you. Now, cue the "you're just doing that to increase page views" whining in 3... 2...

    Oh damn. The third time. Don't worry about it; these people are morons. Natural selection, in a webby sort of way, will take care of them. Personally, I'd nail the buggers down on a wooden table ... but somebody seems to have beaten me to it, by about two thousand years.
  • real_aardvark 2008-02-16 20:47
    shadowman:
    I think the comics are just fine, and am happy to see more content on the site.

    George, don't worry too much about the detractors. New content is like pizza. No matter where you get it from, some loudmouths are inevitably going to complain, "this sucks! Garry's Pizza-Down-The-Street makes waaaaaaay better pizza than this."

    Keep at it.

    Actually, it's Guido's Napolitana, somewhere in Brooklyn Heights. I forget where. It's bloody good, though; the best that the five boros have to offer.

    What? You wanna pizza? I meant for comic strips.

    Scuse.
  • Peter Szieba 2008-02-17 03:12
    George,

    You're like a misfit telling lame jokes at a party. You try to shock and provoke, but you nag and bore.

    You can't tell a joke. The best you can do is make a reference to a cliche, but that's NOT a joke.

    Your writing is dull, and your art betrays a childhood trauma.

    Nothing personal, but you are a disaster as a cartoonist, and this website would be so much better if you quit.
  • donniel 2008-02-17 05:20
    Hey Alex,

    Off-topic: On what basis do you normally select 'blue' posts?

    If you select them on the basis of what readers might find interesting (sort of like 'selected comments'), then wouldn't it make sense to let readers select these comments with some sort of rating?
  • first time commenter 2008-02-17 05:33
    Thanks to alex for making the change. I'm not a big webcomic fan and don't have that high a resolution screen, so the hiding of the comic when not in full article mode is much appreciated.

    And it's still early days for it, so i'll check back every now and then to see how it progresses.
  • sw 2008-02-17 09:18
    I don't see why anyone is surprised at the reaction to the comics, given the self important nature of the jackasses that log on this site daily to trash other people's work. Not that I am NOT one of the aforementioned jackasses. Just calling a spade a spade.
  • Anony Moose 2008-02-17 18:32
    It takes a true comic genius to take a worn stereotype and make it funny. Tragically, the first time I heard these jokes I laughed so hard I nearly fell off my dinosaur.

    (FYI: we all know that you're using stereotypes and personal experience to create humour. We just want you to use stereotypes and personal experience to create a joke we have seen less than a thousand times before. Honestly - next you'll have a "M$" joke to help show that you're unbiased, as if Microsoft bashing is any more creative than Linux bashing.)
  • nat42 2008-02-17 20:01
    this webcomic is PURE WIN:
    Tei:
    Anonymous:
    The better version.


    haha.. that comic made me laught


    HOLY COW NOW THIS IS A WEBCOMIC!!!!!! *WILD APPLAUSE*


    Thankyou Alex for moving the M.F.D. comic, though I've so far read them all I really appreciate that we are no longer forced to.

    The real WTF though is the disclaimer though. While I'm not above laughing at dev jokes, stupid/childish jokes, stereotypes, etc I just haven't found the comic to be funny yet; unlike those posted in the comments - they're great!!! Maybe after Anonymous stops fighting that "sci-fi religion" more of these comics could be included here?!

    Would include my captcha but I'm still trying to figure out how to fax the damn wooden table through to the inta-webz.
  • fizze 2008-02-18 08:26
    Oh my, yeah, like its bothering Alex if you're not reading this anymore. Right.
    Besides, there are fancy things like aggregation/syndication that allow you to specify the posts you want to see. Like only those that are actual CodeSODs, for that matter.

    *shakes head in disbelief*

    [captcha capio: now thats irony ;)]
  • Phil 2008-02-18 22:33
    It seems some people need to calm down. I for one love the comics, it just seems the OSS guys can't handle even some gentle stirring.

    NOTE: I've never commented on The Daily WTF before, but thought I would just to show my support. The guys in my office love the comics - keep up the good work!
  • Jb 2008-02-18 23:57
    Yeah... he only funny thing I've seen so far is the Linux tshirt. But I strongly encourage this expiriment. Rome wasn't built in a day and Dilbert didnt become iconic in a week. If I can give any constructive criticism at all: think more subtle.

    Challenge us! The best WTFs after all, are those which draw us in so much that we are compelled to either post or read the posts.