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  • Pippo 2013-02-08 06:16
    Almost 100 hours spent playing a video game?
    Get a life!
  • dkf 2013-02-08 06:23
    How do you “get a life”? Does it involve watching TV?
  • Skeeve 2013-02-08 06:58
    Sorry, we accidentally a word or two when you were installing your drivers.
  • the beholder 2013-02-08 06:59
    The first one is so not a WTF. Just look at both numbers and you'll see the first is 13 characters bigger than the second so it obviously won't fit.
  • nobulate 2013-02-08 06:59
    The "was this information helpful" on the Windows actions centre help seems 'somewhat' desperate with it's third useless option.
  • Tap This 2013-02-08 07:05
    "Tap or click" to download drivers?

    Arrrggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

    After decades of trying to train brainless zombies not to make web pages that say "click here" we're going to have to go rewrite all those to say "tap or click here"?

    Who to shoot? Myself, or a million monkeys?
  • Dan 2013-02-08 07:10
    Shhhh! That's the driver for the Thing that Must Not be Mentioned. You know, the new Thing in Windows 8 that monitors your --

    I've said too much already.

    You're welcome. Don't mention It.
  • Barney 2013-02-08 07:12
    ib.hComment.9.text
  • Jere 2013-02-08 07:14
    Love the Triodos logo. Looks like Biohazard Bank.
  • Sean Reilly 2013-02-08 07:57
    Even better is the fact that 427.90000000000003 is not a valid number of megabytes. i.e., that's more precision than a single bit.
  • Athanasius 2013-02-08 08:33
    the beholder:
    The first one is so not a WTF. Just look at both numbers and you'll see the first is 13 characters bigger than the second so it obviously won't fit.

    More seriously if that's the phone app I think it is (OSMAndroid) it requires enough space to download a ZIP and then also unzip it. I filed a bug report about the 'GB Europe' download failing silently which turned out to be due to this. The shown error may be their response to this.
  • Carl 2013-02-08 08:36
    Athanasius:
    I filed a bug report...

    ...may be their response
    How cute! Someone who still believes in the bug-fixing fairy.

    Tell me, have you had a loose tooth lately?
  • Steve The Cynic 2013-02-08 08:38
    427.9MB is indeed bigger than 710.0 (bytes).

    And one thing is clear: these are decimal MB, because 427.9 binary MB is 448685670.4 bytes. WTF is 0.4 bytes?

    However, the 30 microbytes puzzle me a little, regardless of any question of decimal or binary MB.
  • Steve The Cynic 2013-02-08 08:42
    Tap This:
    "Tap or click" to download drivers?

    Arrrggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

    After decades of trying to train brainless zombies not to make web pages that say "click here" we're going to have to go rewrite all those to say "tap or click here"?

    Who to shoot? Myself, or a million monkeys?

    Depends. How many bullets do you have?
  • LoremIpsumDolorSitAmet 2013-02-08 08:42
    Tap This:
    "Tap or click" to download drivers?

    Arrrggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

    After decades of trying to train brainless zombies not to make web pages that say "click here" we're going to have to go rewrite all those to say "tap or click here"?

    Who to shoot? Myself, or a million monkeys?

    You should be shooting Microsoft for breaking every UI guideline they ever wrote.
  • Marke 2013-02-08 09:03
    It's not that they are high performance, it's the last pair.

    genuine Leopard skin is NOT cheap...
  • I forget 2013-02-08 09:03
    Tap This:
    "Tap or click" to download drivers?

    Arrrggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

    After decades of trying to train brainless zombies not to make web pages that say "click here" we're going to have to go rewrite all those to say "tap or click here"?

    Who to shoot? Myself, or a million monkeys?


    Microsoft has gone to la-la land. If you have any serious investments in Microsoft you should be very scared.
  • Roby McAndrew 2013-02-08 09:13
    Athanasius:

    ...if that's the phone app I think it is (OSMAndroid) ...

    It is the app you think it is, and to be fair, it does claim to be a beta.
  • Remusonline 2013-02-08 09:14
    dkf:
    How do you “get a life”? Does it involve watching TV?


    No, you have to take the green mushroom! But not the blue one, he is mean....
  • Andrew 2013-02-08 09:31
    Steve The Cynic:
    And one thing is clear: these are decimal MB, because 427.9 binary MB is 448685670.4 bytes. WTF is 0.4 bytes?


    3.2 bits, obviously.
  • emaNrouY-Here 2013-02-08 09:36
    Steve The Cynic:
    427.9MB is indeed bigger than 710.0 (bytes).

    And one thing is clear: these are decimal MB, because 427.9 binary MB is 448685670.4 bytes. WTF is 0.4 bytes?

    However, the 30 microbytes puzzle me a little, regardless of any question of decimal or binary MB.


    Someone doesn't know their bytes from their bits. Granted, in a 8bit/byte world, I'm not sure what .4 bytes would be... Rounded, maybe? so it is 448685670 bytes and 3 bits.

  • nix 2013-02-08 09:41
    Steve The Cynic:
    427.9MB is indeed bigger than 710.0 (bytes).

    And one thing is clear: these are decimal MB, because 427.9 binary MB is 448685670.4 bytes. WTF is 0.4 bytes?

    However, the 30 microbytes puzzle me a little, regardless of any question of decimal or binary MB.


    My wife always says "millibytes" when she means megabytes and it takes a conscious effort to stop myself from immediately correcting her.
  • RandomGuy 2013-02-08 09:59

    int actual_number_of_bytes;
    int mb_times_10 = actual_number_of_bytes*10/(1024*1024);
    double mb = mb_times_10/10.0;
    std::cout.precision(16);
    std::cout << mb;

    And TRWTF is using <u> tags.
  • cellocgw 2013-02-08 10:19
    Sean Reilly:
    Even better is the fact that 427.90000000000003 is not a valid number of megabytes. i.e., that's more precision than a single bit.

    You've heard of "microloans," right? Well, these are microbits.
    And in case you remain skeptical, welcome to the world of quantum computing. http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/id.3362,y.0,no.,content.true,page.1,css.print/issue.aspx
  • RichP 2013-02-08 10:29
    cellocgw:
    ...
    You've heard of "microloans," right? Well, these are microbits.


    microbits! They're a whole lotta computing fun! You can round them, scale them, shift them, even rotate 'em! Store them on your hard drive, download with your friends! Look for microbits in stores TODAY!

    (need to have grown up in the '80s to get this, probably).
  • HowItWorks 2013-02-08 10:50
    Marke:
    It's not that they are high performance, it's the last pair.

    genuine Leopard skin is NOT cheap...
    Genuine Argyle skin, even more NOT cheap...
  • Mike 2013-02-08 11:04
    Touche, and as such they might be using something like a small short to store the value and have an overflow error.

    P.S. In information theory you can get fractional bits worth of information but you can never store them blows the freaking mind :)
  • chubertdev 2013-02-08 11:35
    Tap This:
    "Tap or click" to download drivers?

    Arrrggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

    After decades of trying to train brainless zombies not to make web pages that say "click here" we're going to have to go rewrite all those to say "tap or click here"?

    Who to shoot? Myself, or a million monkeys?


    "click here to shoot"
  • jay 2013-02-08 11:58
    Sean Reilly:
    Even better is the fact that 427.90000000000003 is not a valid number of megabytes. i.e., that's more precision than a single bit.


    I like to keep a few extra pieces of a bit around. Just in case one of my bits breaks, I may be able to glue two half-bits together.
  • jay 2013-02-08 12:03
    The driver one is just bad grammar. Of course what they meant to say was, "Your am missing a driver", or more formally, "You bees done missing a driver".
  • jay 2013-02-08 12:06
    emaNrouY-Here:
    Steve The Cynic:
    427.9MB is indeed bigger than 710.0 (bytes).

    And one thing is clear: these are decimal MB, because 427.9 binary MB is 448685670.4 bytes. WTF is 0.4 bytes?

    However, the 30 microbytes puzzle me a little, regardless of any question of decimal or binary MB.


    Someone doesn't know their bytes from their bits. Granted, in a 8bit/byte world, I'm not sure what .4 bytes would be... Rounded, maybe? so it is 448685670 bytes and 3 bits.



    I don't think bits should be rounded. Then they roll around when you drop them in the bit bucket and make a lot of noise.
  • Paul Neumann 2013-02-08 12:09
    nix:
    My wife always says "millibytes" when she means megabytes and it takes a conscious effort to stop myself from immediately correcting her.
    She's your wife. Why wouldn't you correct her? Those eyes aren't going to blacken themselves!
  • Paul Neumann 2013-02-08 12:10
    chubertdev:
    Tap This:
    "Tap or click" to download drivers?

    Arrrggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

    After decades of trying to train brainless zombies not to make web pages that say "click here" we're going to have to go rewrite all those to say "tap or click here"?

    Who to shoot? Myself, or a million monkeys?


    "click or tap here to shoot"
    FTFY
  • Albert 2013-02-08 12:13
    An auditor, the president's daughter, and the VP of Global Purchasing walked into a store where they saw a glove on sale for 38 million dollars.

    The president's daughter immediately called her dad and asked if she could buy it.

    After she swiped her debit card, the auditor noticed her PIN was only 4 digits, and refused to allow the transaction to continue.

    The VP of Global Purchasing saw a business opportunity and bought the store for half a billion dollars, based on the number of gloves they still had in stock.
  • PT 2013-02-08 12:42
    Windows doesn't name the driver for Voldemort hardware.

    It must not be named.
  • john 2013-02-08 12:50
    Is the president's daughter Irish ?
  • nix 2013-02-08 13:00
    Paul Neumann:
    nix:
    My wife always says "millibytes" when she means megabytes and it takes a conscious effort to stop myself from immediately correcting her.
    She's your wife. Why wouldn't you correct her? Those eyes aren't going to blacken themselves!


    Look, it's hard enough to explain my black eye to my coworkers as it is; telling them I walked into a door only works so many times!
  • Coyne 2013-02-08 13:29
    One wonders what kind of code does this comparison. Maybe something like this:


    public static int compareNumber(double n1, double n2)
    {
    String s1 = Double.toString(n1);
    String s2 = Double.toString(n2);
    return s1.compareToIgnoreCase(s2);
    }


    Which, of course, would be a WTF. (Or maybe even more than one.)

    But how else could they get it so ... wrong?
  • Doctor_of_Ineptitude 2013-02-08 13:42
    The first one is not an error, its a fact. Try downloading Great Britain into Europe and you will find out fast enough that even 1000000 would be less. Ask Napoleon, he learnt it the hard way.
  • Soap Opera 2013-02-08 13:51
    Albert:
    An auditor, the president's daughter, and the VP of Global Purchasing walked into a store where they saw a glove on sale for 38 million dollars.

    The president's daughter immediately called her dad and asked if she could buy it.

    After she swiped her debit card, the auditor noticed her PIN was only 4 digits, and refused to allow the transaction to continue.

    The VP of Global Purchasing saw a business opportunity and bought the store for half a billion dollars, based on the number of gloves they still had in stock.


    You think you know a story, but you only know how it ends. To get to the heart of the story, you have to go back to the beginning.

    The VP, auditor and the daughter of the president went to the store. Auditor ratted off to VP of Local Purchase, who was shopping with the wife of VP of Global Purchase. She bought the store for half a billion dollars feigning identity and VP blackmailed the President into allowing the purchase.

    Now do you understand the brilliance of Paula Beans?
  • Heavy W. Guy 2013-02-08 15:07
    Not playing medic? For shame!
  • Meh 2013-02-08 16:02
    For the last, i don't see what's wrong with having files of several terabyte in a 500GB or 1TB hard disk. That's called sparse files and it's really the most sane way to handle files with holes in it (bittorent-like).
  • Barfo Rama 2013-02-08 16:43
    RichP:
    cellocgw:
    ...
    You've heard of "microloans," right? Well, these are microbits.


    microbits! They're a whole lotta computing fun! You can round them, scale them, shift them, even rotate 'em! Store them on your hard drive, download with your friends! Look for microbits in stores TODAY!

    (need to have grown up in the '80s to get this, probably).

    And don't forget the quantum scrubbing bubbles!

  • Silverhill 2013-02-08 17:28
    cellocgw:
    Sean Reilly:
    Even better is the fact that 427.90000000000003 is not a valid number of megabytes. i.e., that's more precision than a single bit.
    You've heard of "microloans," right? Well, these are microbits.
    Nanobytes, actually. 427.90000000000003 MB = 427.9 MB + 30 nB.
    </pedantry>

    With single-atom storage (under development), one might be able to store nanobytes....
  • Silverhill 2013-02-08 17:33
    Pippo:
    Almost 100 hours spent playing a video game?
    Get a life!
    It's 341 754 hours (~39 years)...

    /me goes off in search of a life
  • Bill C. 2013-02-08 22:58
    The glove prices are accurate. That woman paid $12.65 for one. She made me pay $38,459,348.00 for the other one. I tried to argue that one was enough for performance, but she insisted on having a nice pair.
  • sttlmark 2013-02-09 16:07
    Kids, just say no to floating point arithmetic.
  • F 2013-02-10 17:35
    RichP:
    cellocgw:
    ...
    You've heard of "microloans," right? Well, these are microbits.


    microbits! They're a whole lotta computing fun! You can round them, scale them, shift them, even rotate 'em! Store them on your hard drive, download with your friends! Look for microbits in stores TODAY!

    (need to have not grown up to get this, probably).


    FTFY
  • Neil 2013-02-12 12:30
    Sean Reilly:
    Even better is the fact that 427.90000000000003 is not a valid number of megabytes. i.e., that's more precision than a single bit.
    As people have alluded to, TRWTF is trying to use binary floating-point to represent 427.9 exactly, when it is probably using 427.90000000000003410605131648480892181396484375 instead, which is 7527696408405607/17592186044416. (Of course, the .9 was itself probably rounded in the first place...)
  • GlitchMr 2013-02-13 02:26


    Ha, I've used MOAR space on my PC. This is Arch Linux with Cinnamon interface, by the way.
  • keigezellig 2013-02-13 10:59
    You are using some new kind of super compression algorithm?
  • Randy Snicker 2013-02-19 11:40
    I was wondering why it took Steam 177,574 years to download the latest Brink update

    I must be the near-infinite number of monkey typing it in real time...