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  • oO 2012-08-02 09:03
    Frist cat always wins
  • MP79 2012-08-02 09:04
    spotted a good picture floating around from this the other day.
    "If it not meant for sits, why is it made of warm?"
    did like.
    also, never work with animals or children, applies to computers as well as television :)
  • ochrist 2012-08-02 09:05
    Yeah, but what happened to his mouse?
  • SoWhat 2012-08-02 09:19
    I am sorry, I miss TRWTF in todays story. Are people with cats TRWTF ?
  • KattMan 2012-08-02 09:20
    My cat would never do this, he's afraid I would eat him, and I am sure suspects that is what happened to the last cat that wouldn't stop pissing on the carpet.

    And yes he is almost truely afraid this is the result, when he was a little kitten he tried to get food off my plate when I was eating on the couch, I promptly picked him up, stuck his head in my mouth, bit down and waited for him to relax and give in. Been the perfect cat ever since.
  • paquetted 2012-08-02 09:20
    lol! Cats are the best! Always so helpfull when working on a computer!
  • scott 2012-08-02 09:25
    Had a cat puke on a laptop once. Cat puke is surprisingly corrosive.
  • Some Jerk 2012-08-02 09:26
    SoWhat:
    I am sorry, I miss TRWTF in todays story. Are people with cats TRWTF ?


    It was probebly a Dell or something and they forgot to tell us.

    CAPTCHA: sino - Indecisive
  • Grzechooo 2012-08-02 09:26
    Cats are awsumly useful, killing laptops, naming volcanoes, and so on.
  • JiP 2012-08-02 09:27
    Time for a CaTscan app...
  • Severity One 2012-08-02 09:29
    Rather than keeping his cat away from his laptop, perhaps he should clean the kitty litter a bit more often.

    We have three cats (the fourth one is MIA) and they do crazy things (after all, they're cats), but they never peed or puked on any piece of electronics.
  • Some Jerk 2012-08-02 09:29
    ummmm... Laptops get lots of pussy?
  • Sizik 2012-08-02 09:33
    The owner must have been pissed.
  • Some Jerk 2012-08-02 09:35
    Sizik:
    The owner must have been pissed.


    better to be pissed off than pissed on?
  • C-Octothorpe 2012-08-02 09:36
    Sure, blame the cat...
  • My name 2012-08-02 09:38

    significant blackening around the docking connector, and a strong smell of carbon


    TRWTF is that this is not explained
    (or I didn't get it)
  • Some Jerk 2012-08-02 09:46
    That's the gross part. the fool actually attempted to power up the well greased laptop.
  • Swedish tard 2012-08-02 09:49
    KattMan:
    My cat would never do this, he's afraid I would eat him, and I am sure suspects that is what happened to the last cat that wouldn't stop pissing on the carpet.

    And yes he is almost truely afraid this is the result, when he was a little kitten he tried to get food off my plate when I was eating on the couch, I promptly picked him up, stuck his head in my mouth, bit down and waited for him to relax and give in. Been the perfect cat ever since.


    I've done this to a few kittens as well, with an equally good result.
  • Poor Suffering Bastard 2012-08-02 09:50
    Looks like it was either a D800 or D810. Nice laptops, we just retired 15 of them, bought the new E6520 models.

    Dell laptops are wonderful - and their service is as well. Never had a problem with the desktop or laptop service.

    Switches, now, they are fun to get tech support on. The phone support guy was so stuck on 'What is the Service Tag' that he simply could not understand that it was a SWITCH. No tag.
  • Gunnar Wolf 2012-08-02 09:53
    Years ago, I had a Compaq Armada 4120 (120MHz Pentium) as a home server. Very neat little machine, it outlasted its life prediction for over ten years - And it might even be working today, were I to find use for it.

    As a home server in a household with several cats, it produced a similar effect to what you describe. We once felt the smell of urine in that room - So, very scared, I shut down and disassembled the laptop, cleaned the (soaked!) motherboard, battery, keyboard, hard disk and casing... Let it dry for some hours, and without much hope, connected it again.

    The computer continued working without even a hiccup for several more years.
  • Andrew 2012-08-02 09:57
    TRWTF is cats urinating. I mean, what's up with that?
  • Cathoum 2012-08-02 10:11
    I find it very difficult to believe even a "strong smell of carbon" could mask the odor of cat urine well enough to fool not one, but two people.

    Also, did it sit on the dining room table or the desk all weekend?

    The whole thing sounds made up.
  • Haz Nohow 2012-08-02 10:29
    Andrew:
    TRWTF is cats urinating. I mean, what's up with that?

    As with everything they do, they want to see how you react.
  • some pony 2012-08-02 10:33
    It only needed to fool one. The other person could very well be faking innocence/ignorance. Many cases are like that because "how are they going to find out"
  • Dave 2012-08-02 10:34
    Shenanigans.

    There is no way that a cat would take a leak anywhere that it likes to sleep.
  • Steve The Cynic 2012-08-02 10:35
    Cathoum:
    I find it very difficult to believe even a "strong smell of carbon" could mask the odor of cat urine well enough to fool not one, but two people.

    Also, did it sit on the dining room table or the desk all weekend?

    The whole thing sounds made up.

    It wouldn't actually be a smell of carbon at all, since carbon doesn't have a meaningful vapour pressure until you get past 3000 kelvin, so there's nothing to smell. At 3400K or so, it's a bit warm for anyone to want to put inside their nose...

    More likely, it would have been a smell of scorched plastic, and yes, I agree, cat piss would normally smell stronger than that.

    What I want to know is how the screws got visible quantities of corrosion, even in the presence of the sort of stuff that's normally in urine, in only a weekend...

    As for the location, I expect that it's either a result of wonky anonymisatio, or the natural evasiveness of idiots who know they've done something stupid and don't want to admit it...
  • Some Jerk 2012-08-02 10:35
    I suspect that at the time this story was written... only a handful of facts were remembered. The rest is likely a dramatization.
  • Don 2012-08-02 10:38
    KattMan:
    My cat would never do this, he's afraid I would eat him, and I am sure suspects that is what happened to the last cat that wouldn't stop pissing on the carpet.

    And yes he is almost truely afraid this is the result, when he was a little kitten he tried to get food off my plate when I was eating on the couch, I promptly picked him up, stuck his head in my mouth, bit down and waited for him to relax and give in. Been the perfect cat ever since.

    Well, sure he's been perfect. Headless cats rarely misbehave.
  • TurdCrawler 2012-08-02 10:48
    It could also have been a male cat spraying to protect territory, which may make more sense. This happened to a friend's laptop. It is surprisingly corrosive and a foul order.
  • ROFL 2012-08-02 11:06
    @oO: I think you mean:

    Pist cat always wins
  • the beholder 2012-08-02 11:08
    Dave:
    Shenanigans.

    There is no way that a cat would take a leak anywhere that it likes to sleep.
    Having owned several cats over the last 25 years I'm inclined to agree. Some of them eventually marked nearby furniture but sleeping spots were always off-limits.

    Of course, just because the customer said the cat slept on the laptop it doesn't mean it ever did. Most likely that was just his excuse for the signs that a cat had touched the device.
  • dtfinch 2012-08-02 11:34
    Our cat (female) loves microwaves and electric space heaters. And clean dishes. No computers yet, unless monitors and speakers count. But somehow it knows carpets are off limits.
  • dr memals 2012-08-02 11:35
    the urine pooled under the laptop leaving the very ends emerged in urine for whole time the laptop stood there.
    Happens all the time.
  • yet another name 2012-08-02 11:42
    I could have used that cat many years ago. A customer complained their overnight backup was failing. Dialed into box (on a 1200 baud modem, this is how long ago it was) and the log files looked ok, device was present etc. Did a test run, called them and the tape was making the right noises but not writing.

    Eventually we had to go and open the system to discover the drive belt for the tape was gone. And what's that smell? and that nest? Yep, the mice got tired of being woken up at 1:30 am every night in their nice warm house, so they took care of that noise.

  • Altreus 2012-08-02 11:44
    Learned this lesson with a router and a litter of kittens. They like warm, flat surfaces too.
  • TrogL 2012-08-02 12:11
    If you've been around cats for awhile, you become deadened to the smell. You only notice it if someone else points it out to you.
  • abigo 2012-08-02 12:15
    This is a repeat:

    http://thedailywtf.com/Comments/The-10-Key,-Mr-Kashmere,-and-More-Support-Tales.aspx


  • abigo 2012-08-02 12:18
    To keep animal in the house is close to sick. Especially those that walk around freely, piss and shit where they please (fish and birds are different).

    I'd make him pay for that laptop and the support time. Then, I'd fire his ass.
  • ahydra 2012-08-02 12:38
    cat urine >/dev/sda
  • foo 2012-08-02 12:43
  • Spewin Coffee 2012-08-02 13:13
    "After thinking that the smell was ammonia-like, it dawned on him.

    Cat urine."

    I'm thinking there are a few sentences distinctly and disturbingly missing somewhere around here.

    "It dawned on him: Cat urine. He immediately got up, ran to the bathroom, vomited, and washed his hand thoroughly. After donning a biohazard suit, proceeded to bag the entire laptop and sterilize the place, disposing of the equipment in the biohazard waste bins that all sensible IT departments have. He then wrote up a report for HR on the employee on maintaining a sanitary work environment including corporate equipment and HR subsequently took the cost of the laptop out of the employee's paycheck as all sensible businesses would. The employee learns their lesson and just shoots the cat."
  • da Doctah 2012-08-02 13:37
    the beholder:
    Dave:
    Shenanigans.

    There is no way that a cat would take a leak anywhere that it likes to sleep.
    Having owned several cats over the last 25 years I'm inclined to agree. Some of them eventually marked nearby furniture but sleeping spots were always off-limits.

    Of course, just because the customer said the cat slept on the laptop it doesn't mean it ever did. Most likely that was just his excuse for the signs that a cat had touched the device.


    Agreeance. I've got a colony of a dozen or more feral cats that like my patio as a dormitory because there are lots of flat, cushioned surfaces. But it's also covered, so any smell of urine accumulates and makes it unpleasant for all concerned. It took them only a short time to discover this.

    I've watched through my kitchen window as one of the sleeping horde stirs, rises, stretches a few times and then gets out of his comfy chair and wanders away. Five minutes later, the same cat strolls back in, climbs up in the same chair and goes back to sleep. I don't know where they're going to the toilet, but I know it's "elsewhere".
  • Weeks before D-Day 2012-08-02 14:02
    I was at an older relative's house visiting, about to leave. But before I left, I offered to help set up their DVD player, which wasn't playing to the TV after they changed their Dish config.

    As I craw in the back and wire the RCA jacks, I feel my shirt get damp. Seems the cat likes the nook behind the TV, and regularly uses that area as a litter box. I'm polite, finish my work, and wash myself many times (as much as possible) before I go.
  • mott555 2012-08-02 14:18
    Spewin Coffee:
    "After thinking that the smell was ammonia-like, it dawned on him.

    Cat urine."

    I'm thinking there are a few sentences distinctly and disturbingly missing somewhere around here.

    "It dawned on him: Cat urine. He immediately got up, ran to the bathroom, vomited, and washed his hand thoroughly. After donning a biohazard suit, proceeded to bag the entire laptop and sterilize the place, disposing of the equipment in the biohazard waste bins that all sensible IT departments have. He then wrote up a report for HR on the employee on maintaining a sanitary work environment including corporate equipment and HR subsequently took the cost of the laptop out of the employee's paycheck as all sensible businesses would. The employee learns their lesson and just shoots the cat."


    You must not be around cats very often.

    I grew up on a farm and we had cats, among other things. Things that don't bother me include cat urine, skunk smell, and various kinds of manure including cattle and chicken. Obviously I would clean up afterwards, but you get used to it and eventually it doesn't seem that gross anymore.
  • jkupski 2012-08-02 14:29
    I'm the submitter on this (though I submitted it at least six months ago, so my memory is a bit hazy). To answer some questions:

    Yes, this really happened, though things appear to be a bit embellished by whoever posted this.

    Yes, it was incredibly disgusting, and copious amounts of soap were used on our hands once we figured out exactly what the problem was.

    No, the smell of cat urine was not recognizable until we had disassembled the laptop. The scorched smell was significantly stronger, though it did smell decidedly weird.

    It was a Dell Latitude D630.

    There really was significant corrosion on the screws and other metal parts, though I agree it seems unlikely hat it happened only over the course of a single weekend. Which is even more disgusting, when you think about it.

    I had a cat once that would piss pretty much everywhere, and would sleep where it pissed, so this didn't strike me as too weird. I hated touching the bastard, because he always stank. TRWTF is that my ex-wife saw no problem with this. Thankfully, she is an EX wife.
  • Some Jerk 2012-08-02 14:43
    jkupski:
    I'm the submitter on this (though I submitted it at least six months ago, so my memory is a bit hazy). To answer some questions:

    Yes, this really happened, though things appear to be a bit embellished by whoever posted this.

    Yes, it was incredibly disgusting, and copious amounts of soap were used on our hands once we figured out exactly what the problem was.

    No, the smell of cat urine was not recognizable until we had disassembled the laptop. The scorched smell was significantly stronger, though it did smell decidedly weird.

    It was a Dell Latitude D630.

    There really was significant corrosion on the screws and other metal parts, though I agree it seems unlikely hat it happened only over the course of a single weekend. Which is even more disgusting, when you think about it.

    I had a cat once that would piss pretty much everywhere, and would sleep where it pissed, so this didn't strike me as too weird. I hated touching the bastard, because he always stank. TRWTF is that my ex-wife saw no problem with this. Thankfully, she is an EX wife.


    I have to ask... was it her insistence on letting the cat snuggle in bed that seperated you two??! :p
  • dkf 2012-08-02 15:30
    jkupski:
    Yes, this really happened, though things appear to be a bit embellished by whoever posted this.
    It was posted by Mark Bowytz, so yes, embellished. He's better than he used to be though; we no longer need to refer to stories being “Bowytzed”…
  • markj 2012-08-02 15:37
    I can believe corrosion happened that quickly. Cat urine is amazingly destructive -- I think it's the combination of uric acid and whatever components keep it wet and sticky for days. A regular mild acid solution would dry out pretty quickly and do less damage, I'd bet. I would be this is a male cat, because males' urine has an extra nasty smell (the stickiness is there to make it cling to things like trees so the territory marking lasts longer).

    Coca-Cola has the same combination of acid and stickiness, and also seems to destroy most electronics.

    We once had three male cats, all neutered, and they did thousands of dollars worth of damage
  • andrew 2012-08-02 15:44
    Back when I worked in hardware testing/repair for satellite tv set-top boxes, we got a batch of failed units that had been in use in the field. One particular unit reeked of cat pee, and even stunk up the lab before we opened the FedEx box. I ended up foregoing our test procedures, opting instead to use a pair of pliers to carry the unit to the dumpster. The bright side of the whole thing was that I got to use the phrase "catastrophic feline urinary saturation" in my report.
  • Sociopath 2012-08-02 15:48
    Spewin Coffee:
    HR subsequently took the cost of the laptop out of the employee's paycheck as all sensible businesses would.


    Then the employee sues the company for a violation of the Fair Labor Standards Act, and wins big in court.

    The court rules every exempt person in the company must be retroactively paid overtime, resulting in hundreds of thousands of dollars in additional unexpected payroll expenses.

    Everybody in HR is instantly fired for exposing the company to hundreds of thousands of dollars of legal liability over a $500 piece of electronics.

    I laugh, collect my overtime bonus, and go on vacation.
  • alo 2012-08-02 16:04
    A couple of years ago I bought a ReVoX A720 soaked with cat urine from eBay. It smelled horrible and of course, needed quite a lot of work to get it functional (and fresh) again.

    Seller playd dumb and refused to pay anything back.
  • Nappy 2012-08-02 16:12
    I lost some nice fisher technic axels on account of one of my cats the rest still functions after a thorough rinse ;)

    And even though the bite marks were distinctly canine, the user had no idea why the corner of his laptop got missing so it's not just cats.....
  • herby 2012-08-02 16:23
    Cats have interesting behavior(s). The problem is that like most animals, they need feedback (positive or negative) immediately after the good/bad behavior. Waiting even a minute can diminish the effectiveness of the result (if any is to be had). My cat (RIP Otis) needed a few behavior modifications for his "marking" problem. It took only two instances of me catching him "marking" and then pointing out (in plain terms) that this was unacceptable (methods left to the discretion of the reader) to let him know how I felt about this. From then on, it was smooth sailing. He warmed my lap for many years and was a wonderful companion that I retained after the breakup with my ex-wife (he stayed around, maybe a clue for the ex-wife).
    Unfortunately my sister-in-law likes more cats and thus the smell is a bit more pervasive, still another story.
  • Nagesh 2012-08-02 16:32
    Swedish tard:
    KattMan:
    My cat would never do this, he's afraid I would eat him, and I am sure suspects that is what happened to the last cat that wouldn't stop pissing on the carpet.

    And yes he is almost truely afraid this is the result, when he was a little kitten he tried to get food off my plate when I was eating on the couch, I promptly picked him up, stuck his head in my mouth, bit down and waited for him to relax and give in. Been the perfect cat ever since.


    I've done this to a few kittens as well, with an equally good result.


    Both of you're lying twice.
  • Nagesh 2012-08-02 16:34
    the beholder:
    Dave:
    Shenanigans.

    There is no way that a cat would take a leak anywhere that it likes to sleep.
    Having owned several cats over the last 25 years I'm inclined to agree. Some of them eventually marked nearby furniture but sleeping spots were always off-limits.

    Of course, just because the customer said the cat slept on the laptop it doesn't mean it ever did. Most likely that was just his excuse for the signs that a cat had touched the device.


    Maybe customer piss on the laptop?
  • pitchingchris 2012-08-02 16:53
    Nagesh:


    Maybe customer piss on the laptop?


    Maybe we need a Mythbusters episode for this. The corrosiveness of urine from various mammals.
  • KattMan 2012-08-02 17:03
    Nagesh:
    Swedish tard:
    KattMan:
    My cat would never do this, he's afraid I would eat him, and I am sure suspects that is what happened to the last cat that wouldn't stop pissing on the carpet.

    And yes he is almost truely afraid this is the result, when he was a little kitten he tried to get food off my plate when I was eating on the couch, I promptly picked him up, stuck his head in my mouth, bit down and waited for him to relax and give in. Been the perfect cat ever since.


    I've done this to a few kittens as well, with an equally good result.


    Both of you're lying twice.

    Not lying at all, I spoke to him in his language, "I'm bigger, stronger and I can eat you. Now do you want to submit and be a good cat or dinner."
    It's amazing how well animals respond to instinctual provocations.
  • Callin 2012-08-02 17:29
    I guess you could say...

    It was catastrophic.
  • Boager 2012-08-02 17:34
    Looks like this was a cat 3 incident....

    also, Doesn't Cat Piss glow in the dark?

  • Paul Neumann 2012-08-02 17:34
    herby:
    ... It took only two instances of me catching him "marking" and then pointing out (in plain terms) that this was unacceptable (methods left to the discretion of the reader) to let him know how I felt about this. ...


    You actually peed on the cat?
  • Jonesy 2012-08-02 17:35
    KattMan:
    My cat would never do this, he's afraid I would eat him, and I am sure suspects that is what happened to the last cat that wouldn't stop pissing on the carpet.

    And yes he is almost truely afraid this is the result, when he was a little kitten he tried to get food off my plate when I was eating on the couch, I promptly picked him up, stuck his head in my mouth, bit down and waited for him to relax and give in. Been the perfect cat ever since.
    You must have a reasonably large mouth
  • Al Alleem 2012-08-02 17:36
    Severity One:
    Rather than keeping his cat away from his laptop, perhaps he should clean the kitty litter a bit more often.

    We have three cats (the fourth one is MIA) and they do crazy things (after all, they're cats), but they never peed or puked on any piece of electronics.
    to the best of your knowledge
  • Dr Harry 2012-08-02 17:45
    da Doctah:
    the beholder:
    Dave:
    Shenanigans.

    There is no way that a cat would take a leak anywhere that it likes to sleep.
    Having owned several cats over the last 25 years I'm inclined to agree. Some of them eventually marked nearby furniture but sleeping spots were always off-limits.

    Of course, just because the customer said the cat slept on the laptop it doesn't mean it ever did. Most likely that was just his excuse for the signs that a cat had touched the device.


    Agreeance. I've got a colony of a dozen or more feral cats that like my patio as a dormitory because there are lots of flat, cushioned surfaces. But it's also covered, so any smell of urine accumulates and makes it unpleasant for all concerned. It took them only a short time to discover this.

    I've watched through my kitchen window as one of the sleeping horde stirs, rises, stretches a few times and then gets out of his comfy chair and wanders away. Five minutes later, the same cat strolls back in, climbs up in the same chair and goes back to sleep. I don't know where they're going to the toilet, but I know it's "elsewhere".
    Cats in numbers are different to cats on their own: because of the territorial thing, the cats know not to piss where lots of them hang around, this is just cause for anger.
    A lone cat, however, owns everything in sight and pisses wherever (s)he's too lazy to get up from....
  • gary B 2012-08-02 17:53
    andrew:
    Back when I worked in hardware testing/repair for satellite tv set-top boxes, we got a batch of failed units that had been in use in the field. One particular unit reeked of cat pee, and even stunk up the lab before we opened the FedEx box. I ended up foregoing our test procedures, opting instead to use a pair of pliers to carry the unit to the dumpster. The bright side of the whole thing was that I got to use the phrase "catastrophic feline urinary saturation" in my report.

    I'm going to retain 'CFUS' as a useful acronym for the future! :D I can imagine the faces of people when I tell them the expansion. "Sorry, your unit has suffered from CFUS and will have to be scrapped." "What's CFUS?" "atastrophic feline urinary saturation." "But what's that ... Oh, ewww. Toss it - toss it fast!"
  • secundum 2012-08-02 17:55
    markj:

    We once had three male cats, all neutered, and they did thousands of dollars worth of damage



    I hope it was still worth to have a fucking animal in the house [sarcastically].
  • Major DoucheBag 2012-08-02 18:36
    Of course, revenge is a dish best served cold... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePNdcdNm9fY
  • Meep 2012-08-02 18:40
    SoWhat:
    I am sorry, I miss TRWTF in todays story. Are people with cats TRWTF ?


    Asked and answered:

    KattMan:
    My cat would never do this, he's afraid I would eat him, and I am sure suspects that is what happened to the last cat that wouldn't stop pissing on the carpet.
  • Really 2012-08-02 19:17
    You must be a fun person at parties....
  • da Doctah 2012-08-02 22:39
    KattMan:
    My cat would never do this, he's afraid I would eat him, and I am sure suspects that is what happened to the last cat that wouldn't stop pissing on the carpet.

    And yes he is almost truely afraid this is the result, when he was a little kitten he tried to get food off my plate when I was eating on the couch, I promptly picked him up, stuck his head in my mouth, bit down and waited for him to relax and give in. Been the perfect cat ever since.


    Short of physical violence, nothing gets a cat's attention faster or more thoroughly than a convincing approximation of a feline hiss. I was a little surprised myself at the intensity of the response.
  • Normal Behaviour Enthusiast 2012-08-02 23:57
    KattMan:
    I promptly picked him up, stuck his head in my mouth, bit down and waited for him to relax and give in.

    Freaking weirdo!!
  • Dirk 2012-08-03 00:03
    The perfect soundtrack for today's story:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm_Avc6aacw

    And of course TRWTF is akismet.
  • Norman Diamond 2012-08-03 00:16
    Ours likes to eat cables (LAN cables, power cables, 100 volt AC power cables for a TV and a floor fan, etc.). She throws up anywhere. But she knows how to use a litter box for other excretions. This is the first time I've heard of a cat pissing in its own bed.

    Some years ago I posted a mock advertisement.

    For sale: LAN cable

    Formerly cat 5, which meant it could handle 100 megabits per second. Now just cat, meaning it was bit.

    Conditions of sale: Cable is returnable if you no longer need it. Cat is not returnable, no matter how much you decide you don't need her. Cat is not severable from contract of sale, no matter how much severing she does.
  • Staticsan 2012-08-03 00:37
    Swedish tard:
    KattMan:
    My cat would never do this, he's afraid I would eat him, and I am sure suspects that is what happened to the last cat that wouldn't stop pissing on the carpet.

    And yes he is almost truely afraid this is the result, when he was a little kitten he tried to get food off my plate when I was eating on the couch, I promptly picked him up, stuck his head in my mouth, bit down and waited for him to relax and give in. Been the perfect cat ever since.


    I've done this to a few kittens as well, with an equally good result.


    I've been part of house-training a kitten. After one too many inappropriate urination, the kitten got its face rubbed in it and then banished to the laundry (there the litter box actually was) for a short time. Said cat never pissed in the wrong place ever again. And she never held it against me, either! :-D

    I am still quietly impressed that worked so well.
  • default_ex 2012-08-03 00:48
    Had to get rid of a cat for doing similar things. It's not at all strange that the metal surfaces corroded so rapidly when you consider the factors involved.

    1) There is a minute electrical current that passes through the system when it's turned off as long as a power source is attached (battery or charge cable).

    2) Screws a usually exposed to the ground lines in a PCB, this is so that when it's attached to metal casing with other PCBs a common ground can be established.

    Ammonia can corrode alkali metals well enough on it's own, if you place a computer case screw in ammonia and leave it for a few days you'll see corrosion. Use a 9v battery (don't do this without proper safety gear), and it speeds up so fast you can see it progress. I'm certain it's battery is significantly more powerful than a 9v.
  • AndyCanfield 2012-08-03 01:08
    We lost a laptop once because it became home to an ant colony; nice and warm and snug. But the vendor fixed it OK.
  • ochrist 2012-08-03 03:27
    secundum:
    markj:

    We once had three male cats, all neutered, and they did thousands of dollars worth of damage



    I hope it was still worth to have a fucking animal in the house [sarcastically].


    If there were neutered, they can hardly be called 'fucking' animals.

    We have had two neutered male cats for several years now, and I have never seen this problem. Only if the litter box for some reason wasn't cleaned properly, they might do 'something' on the floor just outside the box, but apart from this, I've never seen them pee on anything - and we do have several laptops and other types of equipment in the house.
  • Norman Diamond 2012-08-03 04:55
    ochrist:
    secundum:
    markj:

    We once had three male cats, all neutered, and they did thousands of dollars worth of damage
    I hope it was still worth to have a fucking animal in the house [sarcastically].
    If there were neutered, they can hardly be called 'fucking' animals.
    Wanna bet? It's just that nothing comes from their coming.
  • Anonymous 2012-08-03 07:38
    Spewin Coffee:
    "He then wrote up a report for HR on the employee on maintaining a sanitary work environment including corporate equipment and HR subsequently took the cost of the laptop out of the employee's paycheck as all sensible businesses would.


    Yes, oh please yes.

    The employee learns their lesson and just shoots the cat."


    Even more yes.
  • Ollabelle 2012-08-03 07:59
    The cat may have been marking the computer, saying "I live here, too. Pay attention to me and not this black box."
  • Haz Nohow 2012-08-03 08:35
    More likely "This laptop is boring and like so last-year. Get me one of those iPads with the fly-squelching game."
  • Kuba 2012-08-03 08:46
    Steve The Cynic:
    It wouldn't actually be a smell of carbon at all, since carbon doesn't have a meaningful vapour pressure until you get past 3000 kelvin, so there's nothing to smell. At 3400K or so, it's a bit warm for anyone to want to put inside their nose...

    More likely, it would have been a smell of scorched plastic, and yes, I agree, cat piss would normally smell stronger than that.[...]
    Yeah, it's guilt by association. When you burn things that have carbon in them, there's always a whole bunch of organics mixed in. Burning those releases the organics, and makes some other organics too. They all smell a certain way and somehow we call it "carbon smell".
  • Nagesh 2012-08-03 09:09
    Jonesy:
    KattMan:
    My cat would never do this, he's afraid I would eat him, and I am sure suspects that is what happened to the last cat that wouldn't stop pissing on the carpet.

    And yes he is almost truely afraid this is the result, when he was a little kitten he tried to get food off my plate when I was eating on the couch, I promptly picked him up, stuck his head in my mouth, bit down and waited for him to relax and give in. Been the perfect cat ever since.
    You must have a reasonably large mouth


    Look like it. He tell tall tales all time.
  • KattMan 2012-08-03 09:59
    Nagesh:
    Jonesy:
    You must have a reasonably large mouth


    Look like it. He tell tall tales all time.


    A kitten isn't very big, he's big now, so if he slips back to bad habits I'll have to find another way to correct him.
  • Agention 2012-08-03 13:22
    scott:
    Had a cat puke on a laptop once. Cat puke is surprisingly corrosive.


    No amount of corrosivity in cat puke would surprise me.
  • Dan 2012-08-04 12:18
    I can tell you for a fact that cat urine is incredibly stinky. I had a roommate once with a cat that would pee on the burners of the stove (when they were off, of course.) The first time he did this, we didn't know, so when I turned on the burner to make some dinner, the reek of smoking cat urine was unbelievable. I also had a cat use my old Apple II as a litter box. Again, the stink was impressive.
  • Craig 2012-08-04 17:43
    I used to support point-of-sale equipment for a large restaurant chain. There was one NCR computer in the back of the house running Linux, used as a terminal server for NCR or IBM dumb terminals, printers, etc. It was an original Pentium usually with 32MB of RAM, and 2X Maxtor hard drives with a script that mirrored one to the other nightly. NCR used to build a hell of a box, as these things were all 10+ years old, none of the fans worked, they ran 24/7 with no maintenance in a greasy, dusty environment that routinely was 110 degrees or hotter in the summer, and even a hiccup from one was rare.

    I was called out to the site because the whole system wasn't responding, though the PC in the back was up, though there were errors every few seconds complaining that it couldn't connect to the terminal server board. I got to the site and the machine was filthy, gritty, and smelled musty. I pulled the cover and discovered a family of mice had been living in the machine for some time, judging from the hundreds of mouse turds in the case, on the motherboard, and everything else within. They'd been peeing everywhere too, and apparently this didn't disturb the system too much until finally it corroded through one of the traces on a daughtercard that hosted the PCI terminal server board. I swapped the whole system out, keeping only the drives, and washed my hands for about 15 minutes.
  • Craig 2012-08-05 10:14
    I grew up with cats, and have pretty much always had a cat. While my cats have pretty much always been barf-o-matics, they have not peed/pooped anywhere but their litter boxes. The exception being that if you neglect a litter box enough, the cat will make its displeasure known by pooping next to it or elsewhere.

    Whether it's a cat, dog, or child, you need to observe some rules and set some boundaries: If the cat does something that displeases you, you need to immediately discipline the cat, though not with violence. Same as with a child.

    You get out what you put in: If you always f**k with the cat, tease it, annoy it, etc., it will give you back that attitude. If you treat it as a friend, and with respect, it will treat you with respect. If you treat it solely as a toy for your amusement, don't expect it to care if it displeases you.

    Cats, like humans, need some attention and affection. If you always neglect the animal and push it away when it's affectionate, expect it to act out, just like your spouse would, or you would if your spouse always pushed you away. On the other hand, if you always lavish it with attention and it can do no wrong, it will feel like it's the head of the household and act like a spoiled sh*t, just as any child with no discipline would.
  • Geoff 2012-08-06 00:28
    The screws probably aren't stainless steel, but rather zinc-plated carbon steel. Cat urine contains ammonia which can discolor zinc plating in a matter of hours, I think by turning the thin zinc carbonate layer into zinc sulfide.
  • QJo 2012-08-06 05:32
    Spewin Coffee:
    "After thinking that the smell was ammonia-like, it dawned on him.

    Cat urine."

    I'm thinking there are a few sentences distinctly and disturbingly missing somewhere around here.

    "It dawned on him: Cat urine. He immediately got up, ran to the bathroom, vomited, and washed his hand thoroughly. After donning a biohazard suit, proceeded to bag the entire laptop and sterilize the place, disposing of the equipment in the biohazard waste bins that all sensible IT departments have. He then wrote up a report for HR on the employee on maintaining a sanitary work environment including corporate equipment and HR subsequently took the cost of the laptop out of the employee's paycheck as all sensible businesses would. The employee learns their lesson and just shoots the cat."


    A bit extreme. After you've charged the employee for all the above, all you need to do is to convince him he needs to put the laptop away when he's not using it, if necessary into a part of the dwelling to which the cat(s) has/have no access. And if there is no such location you are more than a fraction sad.

    As the resigned sharer of my house with four felines, I am more than minimally conscious of the necessity of ensuring that laptops are never left open and unattended, and as for my work laptops, when using it at home I make damn sure the cats are kept out of the room *completely*.

    Perhaps the real WTF is that this guy works from home without having a dedicated office in which to work. A sensible company would require this to be the case, purely from the viewpoint of limiting any legal consequences of Stuff Going Wrong.
  • QJo 2012-08-06 05:39
    pitchingchris:
    Nagesh:


    Maybe customer piss on the laptop?


    Maybe we need a Mythbusters episode for this. The corrosiveness of urine from various mammals.


    A pertinent question is: Is ladies' water more potent than men's water? Wonder how you'd set up such an experiment? "Darling, would you, er, ..."
  • Neil 2012-08-07 11:49
    scott:
    Had a cat puke on a laptop once. Cat puke is surprisingly corrosive.
    More surprising than any other source of concentrated hydrochloric acid?
  • hoofie 2012-08-08 02:56
    Er...that was probably mine. My cat who has since departed this Earth, used to sleep on the Sky box because it was warm. I kept chasing him off but I'm sure he used to sleep on it when I wasn't there.

    Anyway one day the box lost one of the tuners and the bloke who came to look at it replaced it but suggested that I might want to keep the cat away - turned out the poor moggie has been sneezing on it also....

  • Omega 2012-08-10 02:19
    Overreact much. It's cat piss not Anthrax.
  • Paul J 2012-08-10 02:36
    I had a similar experience. My cousin's cat peep on his Macbook Pro. Only the once, and apparently out of spite.

    The laptop is at my place while I try to rescue data off it. It still runs, but gives of a pungent smell every time you turn it on. It is also very very interesting to my cat, who sniffs it constantly!
  • Owen 2012-08-10 10:54
    shit be nasty. after a while it crystalizes. last time I moved my shit I had to wipe down some items that had a dried, crystalized, yellow and very nasty smelling substance. Most fo them I threw out.
  • not necessarily 2012-08-12 09:17
    Most likely its not a mistreated cat, just getting on a bit. Kidney problems and incontinence are common in very elderly cats.
  • Nebular 2012-08-17 08:52
    Steve The Cynic:
    What I want to know is how the screws got visible quantities of corrosion, even in the presence of the sort of stuff that's normally in urine, in only a weekend...


    You've never dealt with cat urine on electronics before have you. My wife's incontinent cat went on a network card I left on the floor. In a day the board was powder and the plate was covered in a thick cake of rust.

    There's a reason people hate cat urine, it's destructive.
  • Bob Johnson 2012-08-21 17:46
    That's idiotic. If you discipline a cat, it's not going to know why your doing that, it just knows you're treating it like crap and to be scared of you for freaking out at it. As far as it knows, you attacked it for no reason.

    It's like the idiots that think rubbing a dogs nose in it's poop, when it poops somewhere it shouldn't, somehow makes the dog realize what's going on.
  • Vincent Vancalbergh 2012-08-22 09:26
    Craig:
    I grew up with cats, and have pretty much always had a cat. While my cats have pretty much always been barf-o-matics, they have not peed/pooped anywhere but their litter boxes. The exception being that if you neglect a litter box enough, the cat will make its displeasure known by pooping next to it or elsewhere.

    Whether it's a cat, dog, or child, you need to observe some rules and set some boundaries: If the cat does something that displeases you, you need to immediately discipline the cat, though not with violence. Same as with a child.

    You get out what you put in: If you always f**k with the cat, tease it, annoy it, etc., it will give you back that attitude. If you treat it as a friend, and with respect, it will treat you with respect. If you treat it solely as a toy for your amusement, don't expect it to care if it displeases you.

    Cats, like humans, need some attention and affection. If you always neglect the animal and push it away when it's affectionate, expect it to act out, just like your spouse would, or you would if your spouse always pushed you away. On the other hand, if you always lavish it with attention and it can do no wrong, it will feel like it's the head of the household and act like a spoiled sh*t, just as any child with no discipline would.


    I agree. Similarly I've always had either a cat or a dog (often switching to the other when the other one kicked the bucket). You train 'em well and they're a joy. neglect or abuse them and they're a pain in the ass.

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  • pakrat 2012-08-22 13:23
    I remember hearing a very similar story back in the late 90's, except it was a pet rabbit rather than a cat
  • Kjeld Flarup 2012-09-27 02:55
    I'll kill that cat!