Sponsor Appreciation: Agreeable EULA, Laser Chase, & More

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  • frits 2010-03-26 09:05
    Re:Laser Chase
    Obviously that's a picture of a lizard.

    A terrible lizard.
  • highphilosopher 2010-03-26 09:12
    Turns out a simple laser pointer can distract a T-rex long enough to get away. This will all be in the next Jurassic Park movie.

    Captcha: minim. the amount of brain needed to write the web banner in this post. The banner was written by someone with minim thought process.
  • a programmer 2010-03-26 09:13
    a mighty and terrible lizard, of the likes of which will ravage japan
  • jspenguin 2010-03-26 09:13
    You're supposed to attach the laser to the shark's head.
  • upsidedowncreature 2010-03-26 09:13
    That's not February 30th, it's the 2nd of Trigintember
  • oheso 2010-03-26 09:18
    Who cares if it's right or wrong: that elevator indicator is gorgeous!
  • Lorne Kates 2010-03-26 09:26
    Why is there a crease in the CD? did you fold it in half? You do know that also voids the warranty, right?

  • Lorne Kates 2010-03-26 09:27
    And as far as "open hear" goes-- note to designers: Do not give a voice to any product that is destined to be sliced open. Think of the psyche of the poor shipper/receiver.

    "You still wake up sometimes, don’t you? Wake up in the dark and hear the screaming of the boxes."
  • dkf 2010-03-26 09:31
    All praise the WTF van, ready to transport Alex and Irish Girl around the world!
  • wonkoTheSane 2010-03-26 09:36
    Hp need to sort there boxes out....
  • anon 2010-03-26 09:40
    There is a patent on laser chase: US Patent number 5,443,036.
  • Verm 2010-03-26 09:41
    Amusingly, none of the 'pets' on the laser pointer package look like they are actually enjoying it. The owl looks particularly p*ssed off =D
  • Docta Jonez 2010-03-26 09:43
    8$ :ɥɔʇıʍs uʍop ǝpısdn

    08$ :ɹoʇɔǝɾoɹd uʍop ǝpısdn

    008$ :(uʍop ǝpısdn oʇ ʇǝs pɹɐɔ oǝpıʌ) doʇdɐl

    ssǝlǝɔıɹd :ʇuǝɯɯoɔ uʍop ǝpısdn
  • Robert Kosten 2010-03-26 09:43
    Er... am I missing something with the projector? It is upside down (probably due to some overheating issue), there is a flip-gizmo, that should return the image to normal (good idea)... Then there is a laptop which is configured to flipped output, resulting in a flipped image? I think something is not right with that particular tale...
  • md5sum 2010-03-26 09:45
    Ooh... can I set something up that looks stupid, take a picture and claim I saw it somewhere else?

    (c'mon, really, who's actually stupid enough to turn their projector upside down on a table AND smart enough to know how to flip their screen???)
  • Spivonious 2010-03-26 09:47
    Robert Kosten:
    Er... am I missing something with the projector? It is upside down (probably due to some overheating issue), there is a flip-gizmo, that should return the image to normal (good idea)... Then there is a laptop which is configured to flipped output, resulting in a flipped image? I think something is not right with that particular tale...


    The gizmo isn't hooked up; it's just being used to prop up the projector.
  • BentFranklin 2010-03-26 09:47
    jspenguin:
    You're supposed to attach the laser to the shark's head.


    I want to be on your team. Pick me, pick me!
  • Anonagain 2010-03-26 09:48
    Anon at 09:40 is right: the patent specifically applies to laser-chase and cats. So, don't use cats on your packaging.
  • tim 2010-03-26 09:50
    Having bought RAM from G.Skill before, I don't think they outsourced that one.
  • meh 2010-03-26 09:50
    I was a bit baffled by the projector (other than: haha someone did a funny) until I read the comments and people seemed to get part way there in an explanation. Possibly... projector overheats, someone decideds to turn it upside down for better airfow out the bottom vents, and uses the upside-down gizmo... then gets a newer laptop with decent graphics drivers that allow you to flip the image anyway, so they unplug the new redundant gizmo, keeping it there cos it improves the airflow, or cos they're lazy. Not very amusing, but there ya go.
  • just me 2010-03-26 09:51
    md5sum:
    Ooh... can I set something up that looks stupid, take a picture and claim I saw it somewhere else?

    (c'mon, really, who's actually stupid enough to turn their projector upside down on a table AND smart enough to know how to flip their screen???)

    My guess is the person who turned the projector upside down was not the same as the one who flipped the laptop's screen.
  • Lincoln 2010-03-26 09:59
    The "VGA Flipper" is a bit of a WTF in and of itself.

    Prety much every not-a-cheap-toy-for-home-use projector manufactured in at least the past 10+ years has the the ability to flip images both horizontally (for rear-projection aplications) and vertically (for ceiling-mounted applications) built in, as in not needing an external box or screwing with video card settings....

    Including the NEC shown in the picture.

    Most projectors (It's been long enough since I've seen that particular projector, I'll be general) either do airflow front-to-back or side-to-side so it's unlikely that overheating would be a reason for using the projector in the pictured state.

    Lincoln.
  • Douglas 2010-03-26 10:01
    Clearly the roadworks sign is using M/Y/D or D/Y/M formatting. And giving advanced warning of some works in 2029 - 2030.
  • Anonymous 2010-03-26 10:01
    I love my custom AdBlock filters.
  • CPFC 2010-03-26 10:08
    "Needless to say, I don't agree to the license agreements terms," writes Thomas Alexander Dark, "I'm not sure what's the bigger WTF, that you have to agree with an agreement you can't see or that this CD came with my Legal Studies textbook."

    Or that it's called "Access and Justice" when access is what's causing the problem...
  • CPFC 2010-03-26 10:10
    Isn't "Open Hear" just another marketing slogan? It's as meaningful as any HP slogan I've seen.
  • Marc B 2010-03-26 10:13
    Comment hear? No, comment read.
  • heretic 2010-03-26 10:18
    Whiteout fail! (What does the *side* of the van say?)
  • aristos_achaion 2010-03-26 10:20
    Anonagain:
    Anon at 09:40 is right: the patent specifically applies to laser-chase and cats. So, don't use cats on your packaging.


    But only if the cat moves at a speed between five and twenty-five feet per second. So maybe you could use a fat cat on the packaging.
  • Iie 2010-03-26 10:33
    Don't be silly. The ramp is closed from the 11th day of the 29th month to the 30th day of the 30th month. C'mon, people.
  • justsomedude 2010-03-26 10:37
    tim:
    Having bought RAM from G.Skill before, I don't think they outsourced that one.


    Shortly after DDR2-800 was the new hotness, I picked up 4GB of gSkill and ran it overclocked by 25-30 MHz on the FSB (before the multiplier) for years without a problem.

    Or should I say...

    ¢horÖly afÖer DDR2-800 wa¥ Öhe new hoÖne¥¥, I picked up 4GB of g¢kill and ran iÖ overclocked by 25-30 MHz on Öhe F¢B (before Öhe mulÖiplier) for year¥ wiÖhouÖ noÖicing any problem¥.
  • Anonymously Yours 2010-03-26 10:38
    That first one up there:
    "Needless to say, I don't agree to the license agreements terms," writes Thomas Alexander Dark, "I'm not sure what's the bigger WTF, that you have to agree with an agreement you can't see or that this CD came with my Legal Studies textbook."
    Maybe it was a memory test from the legal studies department to see who remembered contract law from their last semester. One of the requirements for holding a contract as binding is that any person who agrees to a contract understands it. Since there is no way you can understand something you can't read, that text is little more than a meaningless blurb of wishful thinking to scare people who don't know any better into complying.

    Lorne Kates:
    And as far as "open hear" goes-- note to designers: Do not give a voice to any product that is destined to be sliced open. Think of the psyche of the poor shipper/receiver.

    "You still wake up sometimes, don’t you? Wake up in the dark and hear the screaming of the boxes."
    It's been a while, but, "So you think that if you save this girl... you will finally stop hearing them? That you will silence the boxes?"
  • Cheddar 2010-03-26 10:50
    1 2D image, flipped, flipped again, flipped yet again.

    DOES JAMES CAMERON KNOW?

  • mulli 2010-03-26 10:53
    Cheddar:
    1 2D image, flipped, flipped again, flipped yet again.

    DOES JAMES CAMERON KNOW?



    He invented it.
  • sammy baby 2010-03-26 10:54
    The makers of that textbook must be hoping that their clients are stupid. I would hope that most law students know that you can't be bound by the conditions of a contract you can't read.
  • Cad Delworth 2010-03-26 10:58
    meh:
    projector overheats, someone decideds to turn it upside down for better airfow out the bottom vents

    Unless the projector is on a Stupid Surface like carpet or leather, which it clearly isn't in the photo; or it's surrounded by papers and Other Stuff which cramps the airflow, overheating probably isn't the reason. Maybe it was done to 'stop people pressing the buttons on the top,' thereby switching inputs or switching it off?

    As to the 'laser toy,' that frankly worries me. Good way to blind someone or otherwise stuff their eyesight IMHO, regardless of how 'low-powered' it is. OTOH … a good game to play late at night is to shine one of those on to a) the pavement ('sidewalk' for you Colonials) about three feet in front of a drunk, or b) the back of someone's coat, if their friends are walking a few paces back. Then switch it off if the 'victim' tries to investigate it. Hilarity typically ensues. ;)

    Finally, the 'licence sticker outside' phenomenon has existed since at least the mid-1980s to my certain knowledge, although I thought it had died a death by now. As others have correctly stated, you can't enforce a contract which one of the parties hasn't read yet. How old did you say that textbook was, exactly? :D
  • vent conio 2010-03-26 11:00
    Douglas:
    Clearly the roadworks sign is using M/Y/D or D/Y/M formatting. And giving advanced warning of some works in 2029 - 2030.


    I was thinking in the lines of years 2011-3002

    The Westerlund's WTF is overfeeding your tyrannosaurus rex.
  • Abdiel 2010-03-26 11:00


    FTFY.
  • ted 2010-03-26 11:02
    Lorne Kates:
    Why is there a crease in the CD? did you fold it in half? You do know that also voids the warranty, right?



    That crease looks like the same crease you see in CD labels that are applied by hand. Surely that is not an adhesive label applied by hand?
  • vent conio 2010-03-26 11:06
    jspenguin:
    You're supposed to attach the laser to the shark's head.


    So it can play with the mutant sea bass?
  • Randy Snicker 2010-03-26 11:07
    Cad Delworth:

    That's amazing!
    I was thinking the exact same thing!
  • Evo 2010-03-26 11:16
    ted:
    Lorne Kates:
    Why is there a crease in the CD? did you fold it in half? You do know that also voids the warranty, right?



    That crease looks like the same crease you see in CD labels that are applied by hand. Surely that is not an adhesive label applied by hand?


    If you watch closely you'll see it's not an actual CD but just a container for the CD with a CD printed on it. The seal covers the opening.
  • Dr. Evil 2010-03-26 11:24
    jspenguin:
    You're supposed to attach the frickin' laser to the frickin' shark's head.


    FTFY
  • dtobias 2010-03-26 11:26
    What, no subthread here on floor numbering systems, a perennial topic for geek arguments? That elevator seems to be in a building with more negative floor numbers than positive; is it mostly underground?
  • PITA 2010-03-26 11:30
    a programmer:
    a mighty and terrible lizard, of the likes of which will ravage japan
    GODZIRRA!!!
  • Dr. Evil 2010-03-26 11:32
    jspenguin:
    You're supposed to attach the laser to the shark's head.

    You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!
  • imMute 2010-03-26 11:33
    I am quite certain that the "video flipper" switch thing is actually an 8-port Linsys Gigabit Switch. I have one that looks *exactly* like that.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124258
  • Raymond Burr 2010-03-26 11:35
    PITA:
    a programmer:
    a mighty and terrible lizard, of the likes of which will ravage japan
    GOJIRA!!!


    FTFY
  • Adam 2010-03-26 11:43
    The projector is easy to explain. A lot of projectors can only project horizontally or upwards, so if this one is on a shelf or ledge high up you have a choice of turning the projector itself upside down, or pointing it downward and getting a distorted image that requires keystone correction.

    The inverter was probably an earlier attempt to solve the problem by someone who really misunderstood what was wrong.
  • RBoy 2010-03-26 11:45
    Docta Jonez:
    ssǝlǝɔıɹd :ʇuǝɯɯoɔ uʍop ǝpısdn

    008$ :(uʍop ǝpısdn oʇ ʇǝs pɹɐɔ oǝpıʌ) doʇdɐl

    08$ :ɹoʇɔǝɾoɹd uʍop ǝpısdn

    8$ :ɥɔʇıʍs uʍop ǝpısdn


    fixed it for you.








  • Patrick 2010-03-26 11:58
    I heard the box go "kthp-sssssh" when I opened it.
  • EmbeddedDork 2010-03-26 12:10
    Did anyone else see Sunday-Thursday, Monday-Friday? That's the real WTF. So, what are the hours on wednesday again?

    Also, on embedded systems, where there is no file system...
  • justsomedude 2010-03-26 12:23
    [quote user="Cad Delworth"][quote user="meh"]
    As to the 'laser toy,' that frankly worries me. Good way to blind someone or otherwise stuff their eyesight IMHO, regardless of how 'low-powered' it is. OTOH … a good game to play late at night is to shine one of those on to a) the pavement ('sidewalk' for you Colonials) about three feet in front of a drunk, or b) the back of someone's coat, if their friends are walking a few paces back. Then switch it off if the 'victim' tries to investigate it. Hilarity typically ensues. ;)

    [/quote]

    I studied laser physics, spent a good number of years working an an atomic physics research lab, and in my nightlife I designed and publicly operated laser display systems with all the appropriate approvals/variances from the CDRH.

    The reason there are fewer controls/restrictions on visible spectrum lasers with sub-5mW power output is because in healthy persons the blink reflex is sufficently fast to protect your eye long before damage occurs.

    As technology is improved dramatically over the last decade and > 5mW handheld devices are becoming more common and easy to obtain (but are not leagal to operate in public without a CDRH variance), things have gotten a bit more dangerous and you can't assume every Joe schmoe with a pointer has a safe one.
  • Harrow 2010-03-26 12:29
    CPFC:
    "Needless to say, I don't agree to the license agreements terms," writes Thomas Alexander Dark, "I'm not sure what's the bigger WTF, that you have to agree with an agreement you can't see or that this CD came with my Legal Studies textbook."

    Or that it's called "Access and Justice" when access is what's causing the problem...

    "Access" here almost certainly refers to parties having access to the courts, and the attendant problems.

    Perhaps the mid-term exam is a practicum: Get some equity court, somewhere, somehow, to take judicial notice of the oppressive label on the course materials.

    -Harrow.
  • Ken B. 2010-03-26 12:29
    What? No comments on the elevator's floor-numbering system?

    "Yes, I'd like to go to floor negative-two, please."

    Or rather:

    "˙ǝsɐǝld 'oʍʇ-ǝʌıʇɐƃǝu ɹoolɟ oʇ oƃ oʇ ǝʞıl p,ı 'sǝʎ"
  • Ken B. 2010-03-26 12:36
    Cad Delworth:
    As to the 'laser toy,' that frankly worries me. Good way to blind someone or otherwise stuff their eyesight IMHO, regardless of how 'low-powered' it is.
    (Note: it's a PDF.)

    http://sc.infc.info/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=463&Itemid=2

    (Sorry, but you'll have to copy-and-paste, as marking it as a URL trips the spam filter.)
  • Ken B. 2010-03-26 12:42
    ted:
    Lorne Kates:
    Why is there a crease in the CD? did you fold it in half? You do know that also voids the warranty, right?
    That crease looks like the same crease you see in CD labels that are applied by hand. Surely that is not an adhesive label applied by hand?
    It looks more like the "crease" is actually the bottom of the flap covering the CD, and the white EULA sticker is overlapping both halves of the cover. In order to get to the CD, you need to tear the sticker.
  • Ken B. 2010-03-26 12:45
    Cad Delworth:
    Finally, the 'licence sticker outside' phenomenon has existed since at least the mid-1980s to my certain knowledge, although I thought it had died a death by now. As others have correctly stated, you can't enforce a contract which one of the parties hasn't read yet. How old did you say that textbook was, exactly? :D
    Check the CD, which mentions Windows "98/2K/XP/Vista".
  • operagost 2010-03-26 12:48
    The projector's upside down because it was once attached to the ceiling, or intended to be attached to the ceiling. Someone decided to take it down, but the guy who set it up had quit and they lost the manual. So, they flipped the screen on the laptop. Then the projector started overheating because the vents were blocked on top, so they sat it on top of a random piece of hardware lying around (it looks too big to be a simple video flipper) to keep the vents open.
  • nick 2010-03-26 12:56
    Yes, you can see quite clearly in that image that it is on a high shelf/ledge. There's what looks like a whiteboard with writing on it in the top right corner.
  • Vexorg 2010-03-26 12:58
    If I had to guess, I'd say that the sticker was probably put on there by the bookstore that sold the book rather than the publisher. The two-bit tyrants that run college bookstores seem to love that type of stuff.
  • Belle 2010-03-26 13:06
    imMute:
    I am quite certain that the "video flipper" switch thing is actually an 8-port Linsys Gigabit Switch. I have one that looks *exactly* like that.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124258


    According to Newegg, your switch has dimensions 5.1"x5.1"x1.1". Are you sure that's what is in the picture?
  • Wag 2010-03-26 13:15
    I have a little card in my wallet that says "By selling me a product or service you agree that I can blast your ass with my BB gun if you do anything stupid like requiring me to agree to a license I haven't even seen." It's right there when I'm paying for their stuff. They can even read it if they want... if they ask nicely.
  • RampMaster 2010-03-26 13:18
    ramp closed until February 30th?

    No, dummy, that's the 2nd day of the 30th month!

    At least they're honest enough to admit that they're never going to finish the job.
  • WhiskeyJack 2010-03-26 13:27
    Adam:
    The projector is easy to explain. A lot of projectors can only project horizontally or upwards, so if this one is on a shelf or ledge high up you have a choice of turning the projector itself upside down, or pointing it downward and getting a distorted image that requires keystone correction.


    Except, as already mentioned, the projector itself will have a menu setting to flip or invert the image as required.

    I didn't even realize they made boxes that flip VGA signals. Other than fun prank potential, I see no real purpose for such a box.
  • Flipper 2010-03-26 13:32
    WhiskeyJack:
    ...boxes that flip VGA signals. Other than fun prank potential, I see no real purpose for such a box.
    Oooh, good idea, but even better: make it rotate slowly about one revolution per hour. Have a dialog box pop up randomly every 10 minutes or so that says "Click CANCEL if you want me to stop messing with your display" and watch people hammer OK all day long.
  • Vic 2010-03-26 13:33
    Since the comment says Cal Trans, we can be reasonably certain that 2-30-10 is indeed February 30. And the Mon-Fri and Sun-Thu confirms this. Due to budget problems, California has had to slow its transportation projects. They won't finish until the year 20010, by which time the earth has slowed down sufficiently to require additional leap days in February; in addition, the week is metric and 10 days long; because people were used to working 5 days a week, Monday - Friday are work days, followed by Sunday-Thursday as a 5 day weekend. Saturday was dropped because of its association with Saturnalias. The days between Sunday and Thursday are Monday' Tuesday', and Wednesday'.
  • TheAnonCoward 2010-03-26 13:42
    WhiskeyJack:

    I didn't even realize they made boxes that flip VGA signals. Other than fun prank potential, I see no real purpose for such a box.

    When LCD monitors were first becoming the norm, orientation based on the mounts could be modified. The problem: Most video drivers didn't support flipping/rotation. Thus, the hardware was born. It's useless in today's day and age, but there once was a reason for it. (Kinda like punch cards.)

    Captcha: persto - Persto Chnageo!
  • Oompa Loompa 2010-03-26 13:58
    The second picture was taken in the lobby of the Wonka Chocolate Factory.
  • anon 2010-03-26 14:00
    egads!. I've been using lasers to exercise cats and drunks since the early 80's when only real men had lasers. (HeNe tubes and 2000vdc power supplies)
  • Patrick 2010-03-26 14:06
    I accidentally the licence agreement. Is this bad?
  • fjf 2010-03-26 14:09
    Lincoln:
    The "VGA Flipper" is a bit of a WTF in and of itself.

    Prety much every not-a-cheap-toy-for-home-use projector manufactured in at least the past 10+ years has the the ability to flip images both horizontally (for rear-projection aplications) and vertically (for ceiling-mounted applications) built in, as in not needing an external box or screwing with video card settings....

    Including the NEC shown in the picture.

    Great! So they can re-activate the device to get the picture properly 4-times flipped.
  • Massive Debt 2010-03-26 14:11
    CPFC:
    Isn't "Open Hear" just another marketing slogan? It's as meaningful as any HP slogan I've seen.


    There's a business article somewhere about an HP experiment to outsource their manuals. The result was much like this gooder English.
  • lolwtf 2010-03-26 14:12
    CD-ROM: I saw the same on an envelope containing a CD. By opening the envelope you agree to the license contained inside the envelope. I took a photo, but I doubt I could find it now.

    Laser: Hahaha. That's not a WTF, that's just great box art.

    Projector: TRWTF is that those expensive projectors can't flip the image themselves.
  • fjf 2010-03-26 14:13
    Niklas Karlsson:
    the firm's name translates as 'Westerlund's Roofing & Facades.

    Ob-ref: The f*ckhead pattern.
  • md5sum 2010-03-26 14:13
    I'm still thinking some jack*ss wanted to submit something to the WTF, so he flipped his projector upside down, took a picture, claimed people were using it that way, and submitted it.
  • RandomUser423671 2010-03-26 14:27
    Never mind the fact that, even if the "breaking this seal" thing were found to be legal, all one need do is slice the plastic holder without damaging said seal. Unless, of course, "seal" is defined more broadly in the agreement. (I'm going with a common interpretation of "seal": something like a wax seal, which in this case means the sticker, not the loose flap or holder.)
  • klc 2010-03-26 14:37
    Belle:
    imMute:
    I am quite certain that the "video flipper" switch thing is actually an 8-port Linsys Gigabit Switch. I have one that looks *exactly* like that.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124258


    According to Newegg, your switch has dimensions 5.1"x5.1"x1.1". Are you sure that's what is in the picture?


    There are two different bits of old hardware holding the projector up. One is quite likely the switch cited. The two "supports" also don't appear to be the same height so there's probably an old manual or maybe some ancient zip disks hiding under there as well.
  • justsomedude 2010-03-26 15:44
    anon:
    egads!. I've been using lasers to exercise cats and drunks since the early 80's when only real men had lasers. (HeNe tubes and 2000vdc power supplies)


    :-) Same here

    Nothing beats the jolt you get on the startup pulse from those PSUs... 18kVs at even a milliamp will wake you up with a quickness!

  • Anonymous Users 2010-03-26 15:57
    More fun than chasing your own tail!

    LMAO!
  • EngleBart 2010-03-26 16:27
    Niklas Karlsson:
    the firm's name translates as 'Westerlund's Roofing & Facades.
    This is a good mnemonic. They could even run an advertising campaign...

    You wake up with water dripping on your head and say WTF!
    Then call WTF!

    Someone crashes their car into the side of your building and you say WTF!
    Then call WTF!
  • rysto32 2010-03-26 17:23
    TRWTF is the description of the elevator bug. The problem is with neither the controller nor the model. The problem is that the view is unable to display the current state of the model.
  • StychoKiller 2010-03-26 19:25
    Lorne Kates:
    And as far as "open hear" goes-- note to designers: Do not give a voice to any product that is destined to be sliced open. Think of the psyche of the poor shipper/receiver.

    "You still wake up sometimes, don’t you? Wake up in the dark and hear the screaming of the boxes."

    Bet you dream in colors, like pink purple and orange (together, flashing in harmony!)
  • StychoKiller 2010-03-26 19:28
    Massive Debt:
    CPFC:
    Isn't "Open Hear" just another marketing slogan? It's as meaningful as any HP slogan I've seen.


    There's a business article somewhere about an HP experiment to outsource their manuals. The result was much like this gooder English.

    Engrish! It wins us happy times!
    Remember: The bed insect biting is not to be permitted.
  • syockit 2010-03-27 01:26
    I'm pretty sure that EULA thing was an inside joke for law students to enjoy.
  • Flygon 2010-03-27 05:30
    For the record, my Units 3 & 4 Access and Justice book came with exactly the same agreement on the CD.

    Legal Studies is still just about as fun as chasing my own tail, either way.
  • noway! 2010-03-27 09:18
    heretic:
    Whiteout fail! (What does the *side* of the van say?)

    I do not understand why there is a whiteout of that phone number at all since we are all just a google away from it anyways.
  • Gerald 2010-03-27 11:02
    As others have correctly stated, you can't enforce a contract which one of the parties hasn't read yet.
    So what your saying is that the contract can be enforced as soon as said person has broken the packaging, as they can then read it.
  • zzo38 2010-03-27 12:52
    I think Sponsor Appreciation should go under the gray category instead of blue, because the rest of the page corresponds with the same kind of things you put there.
  • tare 2010-03-28 09:21
    Patrick:
    I heard the box go "kthp-sssssh" when I opened it.

    A rimshot?

    That's how you know you bought from the wrong vendor.
  • tourist 2010-03-28 09:49
    Damn. I think I know where that elevator is located. This feels weird.
    Alexa shopping center, Berlin, Germany?
  • Tannen 2010-03-28 12:31
    "Maybe it was a memory test from the legal studies department to see who remembered contract law from their last semester. One of the requirements for holding a contract as binding is that any person who agrees to a contract understands it. Since there is no way you can understand something you can't read, that text is little more than a meaningless blurb of wishful thinking to scare people who don't know any better into complying."

    My solution is always to slit open the side of the envelope, so I can remove the CD without breaking the seal. Then, I can violate the spirit of the not-legally-valid-contract while obeying the letter of it. I got the idea from a website explaining the DMCA (google for DMCA Scissors).
  • Cad Delworth 2010-03-28 13:14
    justsomedude:
    in healthy persons the blink reflex is sufficently fast to protect your eye long before damage occurs.
    Uh … yeeeeeaaaahhh. I think I'll just still stick to my original policy of avoiding 'em in the first place, thanks.
    justsomedude:
    you can't assume every Joe schmoe with a pointer has a safe one.
    I'll stick to my view that NONE of 'em are safe. :) That seems to work well for me.
  • Cad Delworth 2010-03-28 13:18
    Ken B.:
    (Note: it's a PDF.)

    http://sc.infc.info/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=463&Itemid=2

    (Sorry, but you'll have to copy-and-paste, as marking it as a URL trips the spam filter.)
    Quite! Excellent sign, though. Sums up my opinion of lasers in general (you have to bear in mind that I'm over fifty years old, so I saw all those 'zap ray' B-movies at an impressionable age …)
  • Cad Delworth 2010-03-28 13:22
    WhiskeyJack:
    I didn't even realize they made boxes that flip VGA signals. Other than fun prank potential, I see no real purpose for such a box.
    They're a good way to make a poor man's Autocue, using just a single sheet of glass or Perspex in addition to the 'flipped' monitor.
  • Cad Delworth 2010-03-28 13:24
    TheAnonCoward:
    It's useless in today's day and age, but there once was a reason for it. (Kinda like punch cards.)
    So … I presume you never roll joints?
  • Cad Delworth 2010-03-28 13:31
    StychoKiller:
    Engrish! It wins us happy times!
    Remember: The bed insect biting is not to be permitted.
    A friend once showed me a manual for some Japanese consumer kit which, in its 'Problems and Causes' list, included the 'Cause:'

    The internal mechanism is troubled.

    Unfortunately, I can't recall what the related 'Problem' was, but I've used it since as a sort of 'catch-all' description of software bugs to especially stupid and/or gullible lusers.

    And to think: that list appeared decades before L*nux was even devised! :D
  • Somebody 2010-03-28 15:51
    TheAnonCoward:
    WhiskeyJack:

    I didn't even realize they made boxes that flip VGA signals. Other than fun prank potential, I see no real purpose for such a box.

    When LCD monitors were first becoming the norm, orientation based on the mounts could be modified. The problem: Most video drivers didn't support flipping/rotation. Thus, the hardware was born. It's useless in today's day and age, but there once was a reason for it. (Kinda like punch cards.)

    Captcha: persto - Persto Chnageo!


    I see!!

    I was wondering what the point would be, when we have
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  • umqub2 2010-03-28 15:57
    you are right



    http://www.harderectionregained.com
  • Anon 2010-03-28 16:08
    Reminds me of a van I saw in Whitechapel for "Original Marble and Granite (OMG)".
  • JoeBloh 2010-03-28 17:28
    The Sun-Thurs, Mon-Fri thing isn't all that odd...the times don't overlap.

    Clearly the ramp is open Peak hour most days (6AM-9AM) and (3PM-8PM), and all day Saturday....
    More confusing is the fact that there is an overnight period specified in the Sun-Thurs....This presumably means the 6AM is always a day later (so the disruption includes Friday mornings, but nor Friday nights).

    Oh, and One Hundred and Frits...
  • Eternal Density 2010-03-29 00:13
    I didn't realise that there were projectors that lacked the ability to switch between front-floor, front-ceiling, rear-floor, and rear-ceiling projection (the latter which is used for my home theater system).
  • Spingo 2010-03-29 02:14
    I'll put my hand up along with the rest of us people down-under and take semi-responsibility for the laser-pointer thingy. A couple of years back, there was a frightful hoo-ha made when a number of people alledgedly (and amazingly) managed to point laser lights into the cockpits of jumbo-jets while flying at one-gazillion yoctometers, thereby endangering the lives of all those on board, assuming that the said stray laser beam blinded the pilot.

    So in a knee jerk reaction, it's become illegal for us to own laser pointers with a power level greater than 1 milli-watt unless you have a "prohibited weapons permit" (I kid you not - see http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/about_us/structure/corporate_services/firearms/laser_pointers).

    I believe that the general sale of such "laser pointers" has also been banned, but the general sale of "laser operated pet toys" has not. Hence why this kind of packaging exists.
  • Adam 2010-03-29 05:17
    WhiskeyJack:
    Adam:
    The projector is easy to explain. A lot of projectors can only project horizontally or upwards, so if this one is on a shelf or ledge high up you have a choice of turning the projector itself upside down, or pointing it downward and getting a distorted image that requires keystone correction.


    Except, as already mentioned, the projector itself will have a menu setting to flip or invert the image as required.

    I didn't even realize they made boxes that flip VGA signals. Other than fun prank potential, I see no real purpose for such a box.

    Flipping or inverting the image will do nothing to correct the angle at which its thrown. As I said most projectors will project horizontally or upwards, they cant project down. So if its on a high shelf it either needs to be physically upside down or pointed at a steep downwards angle causing distortion.

    That said they could flip the image with either a built in inverter or the external one and then they wouldn't need to flip the laptop.
  • Kuba 2010-03-29 07:03
    meh:
    I was a bit baffled by the projector (other than: haha someone did a funny) until I read the comments and people seemed to get part way there in an explanation. Possibly... projector overheats, someone decideds to turn it upside down for better airfow out the bottom vents, and uses the upside-down gizmo... then gets a newer laptop with decent graphics drivers that allow you to flip the image anyway, so they unplug the new redundant gizmo, keeping it there cos it improves the airflow, or cos they're lazy. Not very amusing, but there ya go.
    For anyone out there buying a projector. Please, please, don't support crappy engineering. When you buy one, plug it in, set things up so that the projector and the PC won't sleep, and have the combo run continuously for 24h *at least*, in what would be considered "normal" environment for your use of it. If it overheats, promptly return it to the store. Speak with your wallet.

    OTOH, if you have an overheating projector, toss it to the nearest trash bin or recycle it. It's junk. There's no reason for a properly designed projector not to withstand 24/7 operation until the lamp expires. This is of course in dust-free atmosphere so that the air vent's wont clog -- in normal use, you'll have to clean something there every once in a while.
  • Kuba 2010-03-29 07:10
    justsomedude:
    meh:
    As to the 'laser toy,' that frankly worries me. Good way to blind someone or otherwise stuff their eyesight IMHO, regardless of how 'low-powered' it is. OTOH … a good game to play late at night is to shine one of those on to a) the pavement ('sidewalk' for you Colonials) about three feet in front of a drunk, or b) the back of someone's coat, if their friends are walking a few paces back. Then switch it off if the 'victim' tries to investigate it. Hilarity typically ensues. ;)
    I studied laser physics, spent a good number of years working an an atomic physics research lab, and in my nightlife I designed and publicly operated laser display systems with all the appropriate approvals/variances from the CDRH.

    The reason there are fewer controls/restrictions on visible spectrum lasers with sub-5mW power output is because in healthy persons the blink reflex is sufficently fast to protect your eye long before damage occurs.

    As technology is improved dramatically over the last decade and > 5mW handheld devices are becoming more common and easy to obtain (but are not leagal to operate in public without a CDRH variance), things have gotten a bit more dangerous and you can't assume every Joe schmoe with a pointer has a safe one.
    Especially if you buy something like this: http://www.wickedlasers.com/300mW_500mW-47-1.htmlI can't wait till some wackos will start offering "natural" hand-guided retinal photocoagulation. Maybe I better shut up lest they get the idea? So everyne: ssssh.
  • Kuba 2010-03-29 07:11
    Adam:
    Flipping or inverting the image will do nothing to correct the angle at which its thrown. As I said most projectors will project horizontally or upwards, they cant project down. So if its on a high shelf it either needs to be physically upside down or pointed at a steep downwards angle causing distortion.
    And that's TRWTF IMHO :) Some lazy bastard couldn't get to code one more variant of keystone? WTF?
  • Patrick 2010-03-29 08:13
    tare:
    Patrick:
    I heard the box go "kthp-sssssh" when I opened it.

    A rimshot?

    That's how you know you bought from the wrong vendor.

    Hey, it's better than hearing a bobcat...
  • frits 2010-03-29 08:47
    Spingo:
    I'll put my hand up along with the rest of us people down-under and take semi-responsibility for the laser-pointer thingy. A couple of years back, there was a frightful hoo-ha made when a number of people alledgedly (and amazingly) managed to point laser lights into the cockpits of jumbo-jets while flying at one-gazillion yoctometers, thereby endangering the lives of all those on board, assuming that the said stray laser beam blinded the pilot.

    So in a knee jerk reaction, it's become illegal for us to own laser pointers with a power level greater than 1 milli-watt unless you have a "prohibited weapons permit" (I kid you not - see http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/about_us/structure/corporate_services/firearms/laser_pointers).

    I believe that the general sale of such "laser pointers" has also been banned, but the general sale of "laser operated pet toys" has not. Hence why this kind of packaging exists.


    We had a similar thing happen in NJ a few years back. Although the authorities had a different kind of knee-jerk reaction. They sentenced the guy to something like 20 years for violating the patriot act.
  • Lego 2010-03-29 12:18
    aristos_achaion:
    Anonagain:
    Anon at 09:40 is right: the patent specifically applies to laser-chase and cats. So, don't use cats on your packaging.


    But only if the cat moves at a speed between five and twenty-five feet per second. So maybe you could use a fat cat on the packaging.


    25 Ft/s ??!? Are you tossing your cat of the roof of a building or out of a moving vehicle?
  • D-Coder 2010-03-29 12:40
    CPFC:
    "Needless to say, I don't agree to the license agreements terms," writes Thomas Alexander Dark, "I'm not sure what's the bigger WTF, that you have to agree with an agreement you can't see or that this CD came with my Legal Studies textbook."

    Or that it's called "Access and Justice" when access is what's causing the problem...


    Access (and VB) is teh sukc!
  • iToad 2010-03-29 13:50
    Abdiel:


    FTFY.


    This photo gave me a bad case of vertigo. I just puked all over my keyboard.
  • PITA 2010-03-29 14:54
    iToad:
    Abdiel:


    FTFY.


    This photo gave me a bad case of vertigo. I just puked all over my keyboard.
    No picture of the puke?
  • minime 2010-03-30 10:17
    PITA:
    iToad:
    Abdiel:


    FTFY.


    This photo gave me a bad case of vertigo. I just puked all over my keyboard.
    No picture of the puke?

    It probably wasn't on a wooden table.
    Or on the irish girl.
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  • Kelly 2010-05-25 18:13
    How about the fact that the dates overlap...

    Sunday - thursday & Monday - Friday?
  • anonymous 2013-04-26 11:13
    Spingo:
    a number of people alledgedly (and amazingly) managed to point laser lights into the cockpits of jumbo-jets while flying at one-gazillion yoctometers
    The beam from a typical laser pointer is highly collimated, but not perfectly so. It does spread out gradually, and the beam size at a few thousand feet will be large enough that it's not impossible to hit an airplane's cockpit at that range. The fraction of the beam that actually reaches the pilot's eyes is much too small to do any physical harm; the real danger is the distracting glare on the cockpit glass when it's fully in the path of a ten-foot-wide beam of laser light.

    Lego:
    aristos_achaion:
    But only if the cat moves at a speed between five and twenty-five feet per second. So maybe you could use a fat cat on the packaging.
    25 Ft/s ??!? Are you tossing your cat of the roof of a building or out of a moving vehicle?
    A cat that could only reach 25 ft/s would be either fat or lame; the average healthy domesticated housecat tops out around 43 ft/s.