• scruffy (unregistered)

    In Communist Russia, Job Does You

  • (cs) in reply to Anonymous
    Anonymous:
    @nwbrown

    Regardless of whether it was polite, I doubt anyone would hold it against Ed for running away from this guy. From what little dialogue we can infer, it looks as though Ed was trying to politely decline the job, and Mr. Thompson decided to be more than an ass about it.

    (captcha: Poindexter, eh? I resemble that remark.)

    You're taking the story literally? Hey, I think someone just wrote gullible on the ceiling!

  • Other side (unregistered) in reply to o_0
    o_0:
    Other side:
    The university had a rule that if a co-op student rejected a job offer then the student failed their co-op term.
    So if students get multiple offers, are they required to accept them all?

    I wonder about that too. I could make some guesses though. For example if they get an offer then maybe their other subsequent interviews are cancelled. I really don't know the answer to that.

    It had been big news on campus when two students had been given failures for their work terms though. The university's newspaper explained it. Maybe there were more details which I've long forgotten.

    Anyway that one student begged me not to hire him, and I was not happy that there was a reason why (from his point of view) begging was necessary.

  • (cs) in reply to nwbrown
    nwbrown:
    Someone You Know:
    me:
    There has never been a US govt employee anywhere that has been authorized to hire someone on the spot like that.

    There has never been a mention of the U.S. government in this story.

    It says he was working for "The State". How many other countries refer to their government officials (local, national, or somewhere in between) as working for "The State"?

    If you set aside the fact that these stories are usually "anonymized" to the point of being completely inaccurate, and the fact that any country or semi-sovereign division of a country can be referred to as a state, and the fact that "The State" was a common way to refer to the governments of Soviet Bloc countries during the Cold War, and the fact that there are several countries other than the U.S. (such as Australia, Germany, and Mexico) that refer to their political divisions as states or words that translate into English as such...then you're right, I got nothin'.

  • (cs) in reply to nwbrown
    nwbrown:
    And if you are going to refuse an otherwise fine job just because the manager has a dirty office, you might want to see the proctologist to get that giant steel rod removed from your ass...
    Try as he might, Ed just couldn’t get Mr. Thompson to understand that, while he did want a new job, traveling across the state each week was not a good fit for him and his family.
  • Kube (unregistered) in reply to nwbrown
    nwbrown:
    Theatrics aside, if after interviewing you rudely tell the interviewer that you couldn't work for them, they will most likely be upset. And while they probably won't chase you down demanding you sign a form damning you to hell (I somehow doubt that happened anyways), they could do a lot to ruin your future career hopes.

    And if you are going to refuse an otherwise fine job just because the manager has a dirty office, you might want to see the proctologist to get that giant steel rod removed from your ass...

    The "dirty office" must be a sarcastic understatement of yours, because this wasn't simply a "dirty office". It seemed more like a mismanaged public/office restroom. Those usually need a full remodel after years of neglect.

    Most likely the boss guy was as much of a slob in his management and IT skills as he was in managing his immediate workspace.

    I would expect a sliver of respect for others from my future boss, and that boss was essentially yelling "I don't give shit" to his future hire.

  • Robert (unregistered)

    Its a good thing the boss didn't trip and start rolling after him as he made his escape to the elevator and out of the government temple of doom!

  • RH (unregistered) in reply to nwbrown
    nwbrown:
    Anonymous:
    @nwbrown

    Regardless of whether it was polite, I doubt anyone would hold it against Ed for running away from this guy. From what little dialogue we can infer, it looks as though Ed was trying to politely decline the job, and Mr. Thompson decided to be more than an ass about it.

    (captcha: Poindexter, eh? I resemble that remark.)

    You're taking the story literally? Hey, I think someone just wrote gullible on the ceiling!

    If the story is so embellished it mentions his fists pounding on the desk literally tipped over a 10 inch ashtray, how do you know how any of the dialog went? Maybe he was rude, and maybe he wasn't. Certainly I would consider being rude during a job interview to have a chance of getting back to you sooner or later, especially if you work for The State.

  • Endo808 (unregistered) in reply to DOA
    DOA:
    andi:
    reminds of an interview where the job sounded very challenging and interesting. being the new guy to take over the development of one of the more complicated chunks of the framework and having a techie chief with good understanding of your daily work and internals.... i was almost in... until they had the idea to send me with the other developers for lunch to get known. big fault! more than half of the troop was simply sitting there, nervously trying to get back to their life-support machine... err, their computers. you practically saw them wasting away. the rest were either sitting silently, nervous not knowing how to behave in this alien situation (uh... communication? uh... what baud rate, port? accoustic? uh... where's the keyboard?), just eating and one or two were even trying hard to get out some questions, maybe one of them was even happy seing another human being capable of using his tongue for chatting... after the lunch i knew i would not work between those zombies...

    some trivia: as anonymous poster you get a captcha to type in, my one was "xevious", cool! was wasting hours on the Atari with this game...

    So I'm sitting at work eating, minding my own business and going over an especially challenging problem when this candidate walks in and just wont shut up. Fortunately he didn't get the job... :)

    Thank god I don't work with an egotist like yourself. Perhaps if you put yourself in other people's shoes you might realise the slight inconvenience of having your lunch interupted to socialise might be a valuable gesture to a potential co-worker who some day you may need a favour from.

    You're a human first, and employee second and a developer third. Perhaps you should make your decisions in future considering these priorities:

    1. A HUMAN will treat other HUMANS as he wishes to be treated himself.

    2. An EMPLOYEE will follow the instruction of his superiors even when he'd personally rather do something else because you work for your company not for yourself.

    3. A DEVELOPER is a problem solver. Problem: potential new hire would benefit from some knowledge of what his co-workers will be like so he can see if he's a good fit with them. Solution: Have lunch together and see how you all get on.

    Why is it that someone intelligent enough to solve complex computer problems can't solve simple business/people problems? Unless of course maybe you're not as good at solving those complex problems as you think you are ;o)

  • Your Are (unregistered) in reply to Endo808
    Endo808:
    DOA:
    andi:
    reminds of an interview where the job sounded very challenging and interesting. being the new guy to take over the development of one of the more complicated chunks of the framework and having a techie chief with good understanding of your daily work and internals.... i was almost in... until they had the idea to send me with the other developers for lunch to get known. big fault! more than half of the troop was simply sitting there, nervously trying to get back to their life-support machine... err, their computers. you practically saw them wasting away. the rest were either sitting silently, nervous not knowing how to behave in this alien situation (uh... communication? uh... what baud rate, port? accoustic? uh... where's the keyboard?), just eating and one or two were even trying hard to get out some questions, maybe one of them was even happy seing another human being capable of using his tongue for chatting... after the lunch i knew i would not work between those zombies...

    some trivia: as anonymous poster you get a captcha to type in, my one was "xevious", cool! was wasting hours on the Atari with this game...

    So I'm sitting at work eating, minding my own business and going over an especially challenging problem when this candidate walks in and just wont shut up. Fortunately he didn't get the job... :)

    Thank god I don't work with an egotist like yourself. Perhaps if you put yourself in other people's shoes you might realise the slight inconvenience of having your lunch interupted to socialise might be a valuable gesture to a potential co-worker who some day you may need a favour from.

    You're a human first, and employee second and a developer third. Perhaps you should make your decisions in future considering these priorities:

    1. A HUMAN will treat other HUMANS as he wishes to be treated himself.

    2. An EMPLOYEE will follow the instruction of his superiors even when he'd personally rather do something else because you work for your company not for yourself.

    3. A DEVELOPER is a problem solver. Problem: potential new hire would benefit from some knowledge of what his co-workers will be like so he can see if he's a good fit with them. Solution: Have lunch together and see how you all get on.

    Why is it that someone intelligent enough to solve complex computer problems can't solve simple business/people problems? Unless of course maybe you're not as good at solving those complex problems as you think you are ;o)

    You really are a stupid cunt.

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