The Daily WTF: Curious Perversions in Information Technology

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Nagesh:
LANMind:
Larry:
hoodaticus:
You're saying TRWTF is free markets? Which side of supply and demand offends thee?
The way to keep jobs from going to India is to let them go ahead and go to India. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, and in this case, the outsourcer will learn its lesson:

Indian Code = Shit.
TRWTF is racism

It's fucking difficult to make a great program when both the developer and the stakeholder speak the same language. TRWTF is the end user.

Kudos on for same language comment. Also hidden agenda at client place keeps us from making good code. Client want everything faster and cheaper. So nothing good coming out of it. Sweat shop is too harsh. We are working in air-conditioned comfort over here. 24 hours electricity at office, unlike our homes.

As we say here: you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. And you may have 24 hour electricity, working 12 hours a day, being undereducated, having no idea of how western culture works and not speaking the same language ultimately leads to disasters. Meaning: offshoring does not work, the people have to be brought in house. Wether they are Indian, RUssian, Rumanian or Martian.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

The audit software was being toted around on a floppy. by remotely formatting that floppy the instant it was inserted, they were able to remove the audit software and prevent the audit from running.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Nagesh:
boog:
Nagesh:
Also the people in bangalore are working twice as hard and staying overtime to help the client. I feel sorry for them. My situation is not much different.
What do you expect? You do sub-standard work, you work twice as hard for twice as much time.

What you claim sub-standard is not same claim as client. Client happy with work. satisfied customer and delighted customer make up your revenue. :catgrin:

As someone has already pointed out, that unless outsourcing (off-shoring) firms starts actually creating quality products, the managers of these westerns companies will eventually notice that this lack of quality is actually costing them more than keeping the talent in-house (or even in-country). I'm not against free-market, but if the product is consistently sub-standard, people will begin to notice. Now when this will happen is another question. People don't learn very quickly, so I'd say at least another 5-10 years before off-shoring becomes a thing of the past (IMHO).

Then again, there are lots of people who are ok with it "just working, for now", so who knows? This trend could go on forever-more...

BTW, your client is not delighted with the work. What they are delighted in is that it only cost them 1/50 what it would cost to create that garbage at home. Now they can spend some of the money they saved to hire a few senior developers to make the code work correctly.

/rant

hoodaticus · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

frits:
Senior Swede:
by:
hoodaticus:
anon:
Larry:
hoodaticus:
You're saying TRWTF is free markets? Which side of supply and demand offends thee?
The way to keep jobs from going to India is to let them go ahead and go to India. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, and in this case, the outsourcer will learn its lesson:

Indian Code = Shit.
TRWTF is racism

Really. There's plenty of Indian programmers who are quite talented. I've worked with more than a few. None of them work for outsourcing shops, though. Outsourcing shops invariably contain the dregs of the industry no matter what country you put them in. (True story: the new Gawker layout comes from a Turkish outsourcing shop. I rest my case.)
TRWTF is no understanding what "racism" means. That word means nothing anymore. Kiss my black ass.

THIS * 100 ^^

Racism has nothing to do with it... If the developers from the outsourcing firms were swedish, they would still be mocked for creating sub-standard garbage code. It's just that those indian shops use slave labor, and pay terrible wages... You get what you pay for. I've seen the same here (US): lower wage developer will (usually) be less talented than a developer getting 90-100k. You want to find a "senior" developer with 15 years industry experience for 60k? Good luck with that...
FTFY. People don't understand what racism is, and think it's just white folks giving black folks a hard time. Slowly, that's starting to include those of Hispanic origin. That's not it either. Racism is the mindset that "we" are inherently better than "them" at x. That means saying that blacks are better runners is racism. That means that Mexicans are better lovers is racism. That means that saying "white men can't jump" is racism. I've noticed the tendency for it to be "okay" to make fun of Indians (MetroPCS,Outsourced I'm looking at you), just as it was previously funny to make fun of Chinese. And blacks. And Irishmen. And Native Americans. That doesn't make it right, and it doesn't mean that your kids won't someday call you a racist *****.

Hispanics = people of Spanish origin = white (at least partially).

I agree with your analysis. However, I'd like to point out that racism is tribalism and tribalism is the natural human condition. It's how we won against the Neanderthals, Homo Erectus, and all those other Homos.

BTW- I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying natural selection has bred the instinct into us and it takes rational thought and a progressive society to overcome racism.

Perhaps an analogy will point out the fatal flaw in this reasoning.

German Cars > American Cars

What about this statement is racist? How about this:

American Aircraft Carriers > Indian Aircraft Carriers

Am I racist yet? Okay, one more try:

American Code > Indian Code

(I've got lots more of these).

Because what I'm getting from this conversation is that I have a choice between either "racism" or intelligence.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

hoodaticus:
If I said the average Indian is better at basketball than the average Paraplegic, you would see that as racism.

Technically, being paraplegic is a condition not a race. The real question comes up when you cite studies that show results weighted towards an ethnicity. Like average Indian men are smaller than the rest of the world. Or black men are more susceptible to hypertension. Are those racist?

Cheers.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

hoodaticus:
The way to keep jobs from going to India is to let them go ahead and go to India. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, and in this case, the outsourcer will learn its lesson:
Indian Code = Shit.

If there's one thing I've learned from the Daily WTF, it's that outsourcers NEVER learn that lesson. Code is code, and if some other company says they can do it for cheaper, then obviously your current employees are just ripping you off.

DaveE

hoodaticus · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

gpb:
hoodaticus:
If I said the average Indian is better at basketball than the average Paraplegic, you would see that as racism.
Technically, being paraplegic is a condition not a race. The real question comes up when you cite studies that show results weighted towards an ethnicity. Like average Indian men are smaller than the rest of the world. Or black men are more susceptible to hypertension. Are those racist?
Cheers.

Then science must be racist.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Senior Swede:
by:
hoodaticus:
anon:
Larry:
hoodaticus:
You're saying TRWTF is free markets? Which side of supply and demand offends thee?
The way to keep jobs from going to India is to let them go ahead and go to India. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, and in this case, the outsourcer will learn its lesson:

Indian Code = Shit.
TRWTF is racism

Really. There's plenty of Indian programmers who are quite talented. I've worked with more than a few. None of them work for outsourcing shops, though. Outsourcing shops invariably contain the dregs of the industry no matter what country you put them in. (True story: the new Gawker layout comes from a Turkish outsourcing shop. I rest my case.)
TRWTF is no understanding what "racism" means. That word means nothing anymore. Kiss my black ass.

THIS * 100 ^^

Racism has nothing to do with it... If the developers from the outsourcing firms were swedish, they would still be mocked for creating sub-standard garbage code. It's just that those indian shops use slave labor, and pay terrible wages... You get what you pay for. I've seen the same here (US): lower wage developer will (usually) be less talented than a developer getting 90-100k. You want to find a "senior" developer with 15 years industry experience for 60k? Good luck with that...
FTFY. People don't understand what racism is, and think it's just white folks giving black folks a hard time. Slowly, that's starting to include those of Hispanic origin. That's not it either. Racism is the mindset that "we" are inherently better than "them" at x. That means saying that blacks are better runners is racism. That means that Mexicans are better lovers is racism. That means that saying "white men can't jump" is racism. I've noticed the tendency for it to be "okay" to make fun of Indians (MetroPCS,Outsourced I'm looking at you), just as it was previously funny to make fun of Chinese. And blacks. And Irishmen. And Native Americans. That doesn't make it right, and it doesn't mean that your kids won't someday call you a racist *****.

Hey, I'm white, and I can jump. I can still touch the rim at 40+ years old. I am going to go watch reruns of 'All in the Family'

hoodaticus · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

gpb:
hoodaticus:
If I said the average Indian is better at basketball than the average Paraplegic, you would see that as racism.
Technically, being paraplegic is a condition not a race. The real question comes up when you cite studies that show results weighted towards an ethnicity. Like average Indian men are smaller than the rest of the world. Or black men are more susceptible to hypertension. Are those racist?
Cheers.

Being a citizen of India is also a condition. I obviously wasn't referring to the boat loads of American programmers of Indian descent. I do not doubt their talents, having witnessed them first hand.

frits · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Ramses So let it be written so let it be done:
I am going to go watch reruns of 'All in the Family'

That could be racist, depending on what you laugh at.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

hoodaticus:
Perhaps an analogy will point out the fatal flaw in this reasoning.
German Cars > American Cars

What about this statement is racist? How about this:

American Aircraft Carriers > Indian Aircraft Carriers

Am I racist yet? Okay, one more try:

American Code > Indian Code

(I've got lots more of these).

Because what I'm getting from this conversation is that I have a choice between either "racism" or intelligence.

Oh, yeah, German cars are fantastic. Ask me how many coil packs my VW's burned out so far.

danixdefcon5 · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Senior Swede:
People don't understand what racism is, and think it's just white folks giving black folks a hard time. Slowly, that's starting to include those of Hispanic origin. That's not it either. Racism is the mindset that "we" are inherently better than "them" at x. That means saying that blacks are better runners is racism. That means that Mexicans are better lovers is racism. That means that saying "white men can't jump" is racism. I've noticed the tendency for it to be "okay" to make fun of Indians (MetroPCS,Outsourced I'm looking at you), just as it was previously funny to make fun of Chinese. And blacks. And Irishmen. And Native Americans. That doesn't make it right, and it doesn't mean that your kids won't someday call you a racist *****.

Good, but your examples are flawed. The only racist comment in your examples is "white men can't jump". "x is better than y" can be used without racist undertones; but "y can't do what x does" is, as well as "all the y's are (something demeaning)".

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

The original Team Fortress mod for Quake still ranks as one of the best iterations of that idea.

I wholeheartedly agree. I wasted many a night on some very excellent TF maps. However, TF2 is a nice change of pace for the series.

My choice in best deathmatch would be Quake 3. It may be a little too cartoony for some, but I liked it. Unreal Tournament is also very good. I excelled at both, but never did go pro.

The rocket jump is never out of style. The rocket jump (and conc-blast) are the best in Team Fortress.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Senior Swede:
FTFY. People don't understand what racism is, and think it's just white folks giving black folks a hard time. Slowly, that's starting to include those of Hispanic origin. That's not it either. Racism is the mindset that "we" are inherently better than "them" at x. That means saying that blacks are better runners is racism. That means that Mexicans are better lovers is racism. That means that saying "white men can't jump" is racism. I've noticed the tendency for it to be "okay" to make fun of Indians (MetroPCS,Outsourced I'm looking at you), just as it was previously funny to make fun of Chinese. And blacks. And Irishmen. And Native Americans. That doesn't make it right, and it doesn't mean that your kids won't someday call you a racist *****.

That is utterly ridiculous. What we call "races" are simply groups of people sharing a set of genes that tend to result in something distinctive about their appearance. Skin color, nose shape, eye shape, etc. You are proposing that the same set of genes can NEVER be associated with non-appearance characteristics such as intelligence, fast-twitch/slow-twitch muscle fiber ratios, cardiovascular capability, height, weight, vulnerability to certain disceases, etc. Both the scientfic and common sense evidence completely contradict your position. Or do you actually believe, for example, that it's racist to say blacks are more vulnerable to sickle-cell anemia than whites?

hoodaticus · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

by:
Nagesh:
boog:
Nagesh:
Also the people in bangalore are working twice as hard and staying overtime to help the client. I feel sorry for them. My situation is not much different.
What do you expect? You do sub-standard work, you work twice as hard for twice as much time.

What you claim sub-standard is not same claim as client. Client happy with work. satisfied customer and delighted customer make up your revenue. :catgrin:

As someone has already pointed out, that unless outsourcing (off-shoring) firms starts actually creating quality products, the managers of these westerns companies will eventually notice that this lack of quality is actually costing them more than keeping the talent in-house (or even in-country). I'm not against free-market, but if the product is consistently sub-standard, people will begin to notice. Now when this will happen is another question. People don't learn very quickly, so I'd say at least another 5-10 years before off-shoring becomes a thing of the past (IMHO).

Then again, there are lots of people who are ok with it "just working, for now", so who knows? This trend could go on forever-more...

BTW, your client is not delighted with the work. What they are delighted in is that it only cost them 1/50 what it would cost to create that garbage at home. Now they can spend some of the money they saved to hire a few senior developers to make the code work correctly.

/rant

And when those senior developers get committed to an insane asylum, the supply of senior developers will shrink, raising their salaries and reversing the gains of outsourcing.

Mason Wheeler · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Senior Swede:
FTFY. People don't understand what racism is, and think it's just white folks giving black folks a hard time. Slowly, that's starting to include those of Hispanic origin. That's not it either. Racism is the mindset that "we" are inherently better than "them" at x. That means saying that blacks are better runners is racism. That means that Mexicans are better lovers is racism. That means that saying "white men can't jump" is racism. I've noticed the tendency for it to be "okay" to make fun of Indians (MetroPCS,Outsourced I'm looking at you), just as it was previously funny to make fun of Chinese. And blacks. And Irishmen. And Native Americans. That doesn't make it right, and it doesn't mean that your kids won't someday call you a racist *****.

The key word there, that you seem to be overlooking, is "inherently." While I agree that all men are created equal, we don't tend to stay that way for long, and coding is a learned skill, not an inherent talent. This means that the quality of the learning process and the surrounding culture has quite a bit of influence on the finished product.

Take a white kid, raise him in India in the Indian school system, and he'll be a heck of a lot more likely to produce really crappy code than an Indian kid of equal intelligence raised and educated in America.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Personally, I think I would've chosen a network drive letter that wasn't adjacent to the letter 'c' when hurriedly doing a quick format at a Windows command prompt.

boog · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Nagesh:
boog:
What do you expect? You do sub-standard work, you work twice as hard for twice as much time.
What you claim sub-standard is not same claim as client. Client happy with work.

My customers are happy with my work too. They're especially happy that I don't have to work twice as hard for twice as much time.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

While, if you've never made love to a hispanic, you wouldn't know that white people are not as good...

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

While, if you've never made love to a hispanic, you wouldn't know that white people are not as good...

hoodaticus · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

JSelf:
While, if you've never made love to a hispanic, you wouldn't know that white people are not as good...

Yeah, there's nothing so pleasing as hearing "OH PAPI!".

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Quake 2 or Quake 3?

Nagesh · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

boog:
Nagesh:
boog:
What do you expect? You do sub-standard work, you work twice as hard for twice as much time.
What you claim sub-standard is not same claim as client. Client happy with work.
My customers are happy with my work too. They're especially happy that I don't have to work twice as hard for twice as much time.

Okay

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

JSelf:
While, if you've never made love to a hispanic, you wouldn't know that white people are not as good...

Millions of Black men would tend to disagree...

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Larry:
hoodaticus:
You're saying TRWTF is free markets? Which side of supply and demand offends thee?
The way to keep jobs from going to India is to let them go ahead and go to India. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, and in this case, the outsourcer will learn its lesson:

Indian Code = Shit.
TRWTF is racism

Translation: "I have no worthy counter argument so I'm just going to yell RACIST! RACIST! IS ANYONE LISTENING? RACIST!"

I suggest you come back when you have some sort of tangible argument, instead of this embarrasingly predictable hyperbole.

Oh for fuck's sake Larry, I just wrote that whole thing thinking you were serious! I should have read the name sooner, didn't realise it was a troll (and neither did anyone else by the looks of things). Another subtle troll from the unsung super-troll of TDWTF. Great work Larry but maybe you should try making some serious comments now and then? You might actually like it.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Mike:
1997, an era of before thumb-drives and when Quake was the best deathmatch money could buy
And today, the best deathmatch money can buy is... ?

Sorry, my previous comment was a reply to this.

Remy Porter · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

TRWTF is this comment thread.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

now that everyone has let out their angsty "i didn't get any last night for valentine's", resume civilized discussion.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

hoodaticus:
JSelf:
While, if you've never made love to a hispanic, you wouldn't know that white people are not as good...
Yeah, there's nothing so pleasing as hearing "AYE PAPI!".

FTFY

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

cool story2:
now that everyone has let out their angsty "i didn't get any last night for valentine's", resume civilized discussion.

Resume civilized discussion? I think you're lost... This is TDWTF.

And the only angst that is being expressed here is good, hard-working developers having to compete and lose jobs to shitty, lowest bidding companies who are "CMM level 5" certified, which is about as meaningful as a MCBF certification (McDonalds Certified Burger Flipper).

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

hoodaticus:
You're saying TRWTF is free markets? Which side of supply and demand offends thee?

Perhaps the part where people are treated as commodities?

Coyne · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

This totally isn't what I expected. I expected howls of outrage as people realized that Earnest had accidentally formatted the development server.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Thinking you're better than someone else for whatever reason is wrong, but political correctness is just a masking term for Marxism.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Nobody:
Thinking you're better than someone else for whatever reason is wrong, but political correctness is just a masking term for Marxism.

...and we all know how inferior those Marxists are, right?

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Greens:
JSelf:
While, if you've never made love to a hispanic, you wouldn't know that white people are not as good...
Millions of Mexicans would tend to disagree...

FTFY

Nagesh · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

DA:
Nobody:
Thinking you're better than someone else for whatever reason is wrong, but political correctness is just a masking term for Marxism.

...and we all know how inferior those Marxists are, right?

We have communist party of India (M) who are Marxists. They never get anything done. All they are good for is doing strikes.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Anon:
hoodaticus:
You're saying TRWTF is free markets? Which side of supply and demand offends thee?

Perhaps the part where people are treated as commodities?

Pipe down, you Human Resource.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Nobody:
Thinking you're better than someone else for whatever reason is wrong, but political correctness is just a masking term for Marxism.

First of all, there is nothing wrong with socialism, just the crooked humans who try to implement it.

Second, PC is not socialism. It's everyone being too damn polite and stupid to realize their own countries identity being ripped out from underneath them to appease <1% of the population...

Sorry, you know that saying "liberal at 20, conservative at 50?" Yeah, well...

hoodaticus · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Remy Porter:
TRWTF is this comment thread.

Agreed. You can thank Larry for throwing the grenade.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

by:
cool story2:
now that everyone has let out their angsty "i didn't get any last night for valentine's", resume civilized discussion.

Resume civilized discussion? I think you're lost... This is TDWTF.

And the only angst that is being expressed here is good, hard-working developers having to compete and lose jobs to shitty, lowest bidding companies who are "CMM level 5" certified, which is about as meaningful as a MCBF certification (McDonalds Certified Burger Flipper).

I got one of those! Are you saying that I don't know how to flip burgers?

Certificates are important you know. Without them, how would we trick people into buying things they don't need or doesn't work? It's what makes the economy go round.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

hoodaticus:
Remy Porter:
TRWTF is this comment thread.
Agreed. You can thank Larry for throwing the grenade.

TRWTF is getting flak for callin' 'em as I see 'em.

Which is why I am still unlisted.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Bryan the K:
I was hoping for ponies today and I wasn't let down.
/The real WTF is that I check the source code before I read the article

I was too lazy to read the source, so I hacked together this: function remify(){if(window.remified)return;var ch=document.getElementById("MainContent").children;while(ch.length){var c=ch[0];if(ch.shift){ch.shift()}else{var chs=new Array();for(var i=1;i<ch.length;++i){chs.push(ch[i])}ch=chs}if(c.nodeType==8){var cn=document.createElement("span");cn.style.backgroundColor="lightgray";var remy=document.createElement("b");remy.appendChild(document.createTextNode("Remy: "));cn.appendChild(remy);cn.appendChild(document.createTextNode(c.data.replace(/(^\s*|\s*$)/g,'')));c.parentNode.insertBefore(cn,c)}else{var chn=c.childNodes;for(var i=0;i<chn.length;++i){ch.push(chn[i])}}}window.remified=true};remify();

Adding this as bookmarklet (with javascript: in front) remifies the current page... ;)

Remy Porter · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Grenades? Fun Quake II story. We liked to play the Weapons of Destruction mod- it added the best Q2 grappling hook and gave every weapon a ridiculous alt-fire (the chaingun, for example, would fire shotgun shells). It also added the cataclysm device- a grenade that could clear a room.

Because I was a giant jerk-face, when we death-matched, I'd run into a room with other players in it, and set off a cataclysm device. Yeah, I'd die, and get -1 to my score- but they'd all also die, adding points to my score.

//And when they complained, I proceeded tear them up with the buzzsaw.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Remy Porter:
Grenades? Fun Quake II story. We liked to play the Weapons of Destruction mod- it added the best Q2 grappling hook and gave every weapon a ridiculous alt-fire (the chaingun, for example, would fire shotgun shells). It also added the cataclysm device- a grenade that could clear a room.
Because I was a giant jerk-face, when we death-matched, I'd run into a room with other players in it, and set off a cataclysm device. Yeah, I'd die, and get -1 to my score- but they'd all also die, adding points to my score.

//And when they complained, I proceeded tear them up with the buzzsaw.

TRWTF is Alex asking his 12-year-old daughter to write articles for him.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

I never heard of a network file system that allowed for remote formats. This story is bunk.

Nagesh · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Pytry:
by:
cool story2:
now that everyone has let out their angsty "i didn't get any last night for valentine's", resume civilized discussion.

Resume civilized discussion? I think you're lost... This is TDWTF.

And the only angst that is being expressed here is good, hard-working developers having to compete and lose jobs to shitty, lowest bidding companies who are "CMM level 5" certified, which is about as meaningful as a MCBF certification (McDonalds Certified Burger Flipper).

I got one of those! Are you saying that I don't know how to flip burgers?

Certificates are important you know. Without them, how would we trick people into buying things they don't need or doesn't work? It's what makes the economy go round.

That's how the university system was founded!!!

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

I thought it was just a phase, but ol' Remy Martin continues to hold on to his unicorn and rainbow fetish.

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Nagesh:
Pytry:
by:
cool story2:
now that everyone has let out their angsty "i didn't get any last night for valentine's", resume civilized discussion.

Resume civilized discussion? I think you're lost... This is TDWTF.

And the only angst that is being expressed here is good, hard-working developers having to compete and lose jobs to shitty, lowest bidding companies who are "CMM level 5" certified, which is about as meaningful as a MCBF certification (McDonalds Certified Burger Flipper).

I got one of those! Are you saying that I don't know how to flip burgers?

Certificates are important you know. Without them, how would we trick people into buying things they don't need or doesn't work? It's what makes the economy go round.

That's how the university system was founded!!!

So you're saying that you don't need an education to code in CMM 5 certified shops?

captcha: caecus - OutsourcedCode == Caecus

Nagesh · 2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Pytry:
Nagesh:
Pytry:
by:
cool story2:
now that everyone has let out their angsty "i didn't get any last night for valentine's", resume civilized discussion.

Resume civilized discussion? I think you're lost... This is TDWTF.

And the only angst that is being expressed here is good, hard-working developers having to compete and lose jobs to shitty, lowest bidding companies who are "CMM level 5" certified, which is about as meaningful as a MCBF certification (McDonalds Certified Burger Flipper).

I got one of those! Are you saying that I don't know how to flip burgers?

Certificates are important you know. Without them, how would we trick people into buying things they don't need or doesn't work? It's what makes the economy go round.

That's how the university system was founded!!!

So you're saying that you don't need an education to code in CMM 5 certified shops?

captcha: caecus - OutsourcedCode == Caecus

WRONG: What I said is that the university was found on this principle. You come, get educated and get a certificate. Then you pay the university to give you that certificate. Do you understand now?

2011-02-15 Reply Admin

Martin N:
Personally, I think I would've chosen a network drive letter that wasn't adjacent to the letter 'c' when hurriedly doing a quick format at a Windows command prompt.

He had a minute to stare at his command line (and check for any errors such as the one you're imagining) while he waited for the Auditor to insert the disk.

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