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It's Latin anyway, not Greek.

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It's Latin anyway, not Greek.

It's all greek to me.

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It's Latin anyway, not Greek.

Caveat editor.

I thought it was tolkien elvish...

A little known fact about WorseThanFailure.com's editorial process is that we have a word count target, and we fill in the rest with greeking text.

Anonymisation jokes coming in in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

THE REAL WTF IS THE NAME OF THIS SITE NOW THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER SOLD OUT.

Skippy:

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It's Latin anyway, not Greek.

It's all greek to me.

This board is ALL GEEK TO ME!

I feel stupid because I tried to click the button on the force-quit notice. I've been using Windows too much lately...

How come the crash dialog has had the close button in the top-right corner badly removed?

PSWorx:

A little known fact about WorseThanFailure.com's editorial process is that we have a word count target, and we fill in the rest with greeking text.

Anonymisation jokes coming in in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

So these 2 geeks walk into a bar...

Wikipedia:

Lorem ipsum also serves as placeholder text in mock-ups of visual design projects before the actual words are inserted into the finished product. When used in this manner, it is often called greeking.

Wikipedia:

Even though using "lorem ipsum" often arouses curiosity due to its resemblance to classical Latin, it is not intended to have meaning.

Wikipedia

Actually, it's not exactly Latin either. It's gibberish that resembles Latin -- or more accurately, that was snipped out of real Latin. Typesetters have traditionally used the "lorem ipsum" text as either a placeholder or just as boilerplate text to fill out an area that will someday have real text in it so that you can see how it will look. It's helpful for playing around with formatting and presentation when you don't want to worry about real content yet. It goes back centuries, and comes in many variations. The most popular version comes out of Cicero, but is chunked up pretty significantly.

In this case, somebody used it for layout purposes but then evidently forgot to go back and put some actual content in. ;)

I suppose it's the typesetter's version of 0xDEADBEEF, or "Hello, World!" It's arbitrary.

Donec vestibulum quam et nulla.

My shoulderblades are null? :(

Substituting "Lorum Ipsum" text where real text is supposed to go is called "Greeking." Even though it looks more like latin.

THE REAL WTF:

THE REAL WTF IS THE NAME OF THIS SITE NOW THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER SOLD OUT.

Oh shut up and go back to your AOL.

-- Seejay

I remember about a decade ago, the print magazine Electronic Gaming Monthly accidentally printed an article full of greeking text. But instead of using Lorem Ipsum, it was a bunch of English sentences and phrases. The received many complaints from people offended by the fact that the phrase "those Jap bastards" appeared multiple times in the text, and people were fired over this.

The real WTF is how this article is even being discussed.

CAPTCHA: burned (yes, I feel as such)

Shadowman:

Substituting "Lorum Ipsum" text where real text is supposed to go is called "Greeking." Even though it looks more like latin.

I thought "greeking" was when text too small to render at current zoom and you explicitly replaced it with a "squared zig-zag" sort of line (a.k.a. a "greek key" design, thus the name). I know I saw the term used that way in the mid nineties wrt to desktop publishing.

Ever notice how half the msi packages in windows/installer are missing any sort of metadata? They have things like Name: Default, Comment: Contact your system administrator, and lame junk like that, which makes going through them a huge pain. (Also when sorting through variations of setup.exe in download folders.)

Karl von L.:

I remember about a decade ago, the print magazine Electronic Gaming Monthly accidentally printed an article full of greeking text. But instead of using Lorem Ipsum, it was a bunch of English sentences and phrases. The received many complaints from people offended by the fact that the phrase "those Jap bastards" appeared multiple times in the text, and people were fired over this.

My favorite is the Onion's placeholder text, which shows up occasionally in the print version when they have a spare column-inch or two: "Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood."

In the dot-com boom (before div's with auto scroll bars), the common way to get a long disclaimer was to put it into a web form textarea. Of course, these are editable, so I always changed those to "webmaster agrees to come to my house weekly and wash my windows" before clicking "I accept". Yeah. Never got anyone to do it though.

seejay:

THE REAL WTF:

THE REAL WTF IS THE NAME OF THIS SITE NOW THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER SOLD OUT.

Oh shut up and go back to your AOL.

-- Seejay

AOL LUSERS CANT READ TEXT WITH LOWER-CASE LETTERS OR PUNCTUATION LOL

lipsum.com(a Lorem Ipsum generator) has this to say about the origins:

Contrary to popular belief, Lorem Ipsum is not simply random text. It has roots in a piece of classical Latin literature from 45 BC, making it over 2000 years old. Richard McClintock, a Latin professor at Hampden-Sydney College in Virginia, looked up one of the more obscure Latin words, consectetur, from a Lorem Ipsum passage, and going through the cites of the word in classical literature, discovered the undoubtable source. Lorem Ipsum comes from sections 1.10.32 and 1.10.33 of "de Finibus Bonorum et Malorum" (The Extremes of Good and Evil) by Cicero, written in 45 BC. This book is a treatise on the theory of ethics, very popular during the Renaissance. The first line of Lorem Ipsum, "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet..", comes from a line in section 1.10.32.

I still think The Onion's is funnier though, Cicero was such a drag.

THE REAL WTF:

THE REAL WTF IS THE NAME OF THIS SITE NOW THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER SOLD OUT.

Yes, the new name sucks. No, whining about it isn't going to accomplish anything. I cannot for the life of me remember who said this, but it sums up my feelings about this exactly:

"It's a dead horse. F**k it, or leave it alone!"

Timeo Danaos:

Shadowman:

Substituting "Lorum Ipsum" text where real text is supposed to go is called "Greeking." Even though it looks more like latin.

I thought "greeking" was when text too small to render at current zoom and you explicitly replaced it with a "squared zig-zag" sort of line (a.k.a. a "greek key" design, thus the name). I know I saw the term used that way in the mid nineties wrt to desktop publishing.

Yes, "greeking" means that too, although I think it comes from the fact that the "squared zig-zag" (or gray rectangles in Adobe software) is filling in where the real text goes; therefore, the original definition of "greeking" still fits in this context even though it's not "Lorum Ipsum" or something similar.

THE REAL WTF:

THE REAL WTF IS THE NAME OF THIS SITE NOW THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER SOLD OUT.

What do you mean, "previous owner"? It's the same owner as ever.

Clock:

It's Latin anyway, not Greek.

I'm Gay

Karl von L.:

I remember about a decade ago, the print magazine Electronic Gaming Monthly accidentally printed an article full of greeking text. But instead of using Lorem Ipsum, it was a bunch of English sentences and phrases. The received many complaints from people offended by the fact that the phrase "those Jap bastards" appeared multiple times in the text, and people were fired over this.

I think it was Gamefan, not EGM.

Apple Safari for Windows gives me that second error dialog when it crashes.

CAPTCHA: darwin

http://kisrael.com/journal.aux/2005.11.10.badcode.jpg

Hey, it could be worse. Just imagine if they'd hired the guy who wrote the code in the link above!

The moral of the story is don't ever, ever checkin code that has temporary hacks in it!

Personally I hate it when I see other people doing this. It's very unprofessional. Why would you ever check in stupid code like that? What use is it to other people except to poison the entire repository.

If you really have to check something in and it relies on a module that is not available yet, then you need to check in a stub for that module that returns default values. At least that way you know it will be corrected when that module gets built. (You should probably build stubs for everything at the beginning of the project anyway.)

Karl von L.:

I remember about a decade ago, the print magazine Electronic Gaming Monthly accidentally printed an article full of greeking text. But instead of using Lorem Ipsum, it was a bunch of English sentences and phrases. The received many complaints from people offended by the fact that the phrase "those Jap bastards" appeared multiple times in the text, and people were fired over this.

Today they could use one of those buzzword generators and be promoted by the insigtfull article...

savar:

The moral of the story is don't ever, ever checkin code that has temporary hacks in it!

Temporary hacks are usefull, stubs should be written, etc.

I think it's much easier to mark all those things with TODO (and DEBUG) and grep them before release. The problem happens when people either don't mark it or use specialized tools, that search just a subset of the files.

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I also use the Lorem Ipsum text as a placeholder whenever i need it. (http://www.lipsum.com even generates the exact amount of paragraphs that you need to give you a feel for the length of the text)

But this onion text seems cool as well, anyone have a good link for it? I can't find references to it on the Wikipedia article for "placeholder text"

Any idiot knows that lorem ipsum is (supposed to be) Latin.

Since Jake didn't know it, this proves he's not an idiot.

AdT:

Any idiot knows that lorem ipsum is (supposed to be) Latin.

Since Jake didn't know it, this proves he's not an idiot.

well... we all made mistakes every once awhile. Nobody's perfect.

I'm just a nobody. Therefore, I'm perfect.

samic:

I'm just a nobody. Therefore, I'm perfect.

You too?!! I though I was the only one...

Control_Alt_Kaboom:

samic:

I'm just a nobody. Therefore, I'm perfect.

You too?!! I though I was the only one...

Hey, you are unique, just like everybody.

Jim Bob:

I'm Gay

Yes, Jim bob... We know.
Stop with the useless posts.

A major UK opticians uses it as the proof reading text when you get your new pair of glasses.

Calli Arcale:

In this case, somebody used it for layout purposes but then evidently forgot to go back and put some actual content in. ;)

Probably more likely its the default entry text in their CMS, which it is for a few of them. Someone probably thought "Ask the Expert" good idea, lets add that and then either forgot to add content, or forgot to make it not publicly visible.. :D

Atrophy:

"It's a dead horse. F**k it, or leave it alone!"

Thanks, that brightened up my evening for a bit :-)

Dan Grossman:

when it crashes.

And for you: todays twinkie for the most humorously appropriate use of English grammar.

I cannot for the life of me remember who said this, but it sums up my feelings about this exactly:

"It's a dead horse. F**k it, or leave it alone!"

I've no idea who said this, but did anyone else immediately think "Tycho Brahe"...?

The real WTF is that I spent several seconds looking at the viagra advert at the bottom of the article attempting to work out what was wrong with it.

pwnt you noob joobs

AdT:

Any idiot knows that lorem ipsum is (supposed to be) Latin.

Since Jake didn't know it, this proves he's not an idiot.

Just proves he's not any idiot

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