Comment On Almost All-Electronic

"I've signed up for online, 'All-Electronic' billing," Dave H writes, "and no matter what I do, they continue to send me monthly notifications in the mail telling me that my bill is now available online. " [expand full text]
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Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:09 • by Tim (unregistered)
Looks like he hasn't given them his email address so they sent his monthly statement notification by post instead.

Not that much of a WTF.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:13 • by S Larsen (unregistered)
Your clue is at the bottom of the letter: FEDERAL REGULATIONS REQUIRE THE STATEMENT.

It does not matter that you, the buyer, and AT&T, the seller, have agreed that the statement is unnecessary. You're too stupid, you see, and the federal government knows better, so they're going to butt their heads into the middle and tell everyone what to do. You need a statement because it is good for you.

The real WTF is that, in this election, neither of the big old party candidates are seriously pushing smaller government and reduction of stupid regulations. So (unless it is going to come down to one vote in your state) maybe you should vote for a newer, smaller party candidate.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:16 • by Einsidler
Aww, I just wanna give that camera a hug and tell it everything is going to be ok.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:22 • by hikari
223813 in reply to 223810
Tim:
Looks like he hasn't given them his email address so they sent his monthly statement notification by post instead.

Not that much of a WTF.


I think it's just a form letter which always reminds you to keep your e-mail address up-to-date. If they didn't have an e-mail address on file I would expect it to explicitly state that.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:30 • by Flash
Misuse of abbreviations and apostrophes is so common, that the reverse-WTF of Quips 'n' Quotes is remarkable. They properly abbreviate the word "and." Plus, those are real apostrophes on both sides of the n. Kudos to them from a grammar nazi. (I might have used a lowercase n, but I'm still impressed.)

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:35 • by Smash King
Who does Siuying think he is anyway? God?
And what comes next? Maybe he'll want to edit his profile to give himself almighty powers over every other user.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:37 • by ParkinT
It looks to me like the Cannon camera is responding to a question. It is saying that HE is a record album (LP).

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:37 • by Matt (unregistered)
223818 in reply to 223814
If you think about it, a place called "Quips 'n' Quotes" probably stands to lose the most compared to any other business because of a punctuation issue in its name.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:38 • by mauhiz (unregistered)
Error: Welcome to the comment. Thank you for choosing the #1 comment in lolance and readability.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:38 • by Anonymuos (unregistered)
223820 in reply to 223814
Flash:
(I might have used a lowercase n, but I'm still impressed.)


If you had, you'd have been wrong. It's a small-caps font.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:40 • by Steve (unregistered)
I think there's someone trapped inside the camera. They do grab your souls, you know.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:40 • by \ O_o / (unregistered)
HE
LP

I'm stuck in a comment factory!

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:41 • by Zecc

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:41 • by DaveAronson
You are not authorized to create comments.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:42 • by Camera User 2338 (unregistered)
Same thing happened to mine. I sent it back to Canon for warranty service (I just bought it in 4 months ago) but they wanted $104 to refurbish the exterior of the camera because it was “scuffed and scratched.” They contended that if the exterior is not in factory condition, it must be reconditioned to honor the warranty. Well anyway, I told them no thanks (not quite so politely). I just got it back in the mail yesterday and followed the advice of others I found on the ‘net. As it’s starting up after pressing the power button, a moderately hard whack on the table top (the bottom of the camera, the end where the battery goes) fixed the problem immediately. I’m hoping this will last for a while.

Other suggestions to prevent this, I’ve found, said to periodically blow canned air around the lens to dislodge any dirt particles. Also, do not shut off or turn on in rapid sequence. Make sure that the lens is fully retracted after shutting off before you say, ooops I forgot to get one more shot, and turn it back on. Apparently switching direction of the retractable lens in mid stream can cause it to jam up.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:43 • by DaveAronson
The camera breaks the apparent word apart because it is really giving the user a choice of two power sources: helium (production, that is, from hydrogen fusion, it being the Mr. Camera model), or liquid propane.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 08:45 • by snoofle
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You are not authorized to create users.


...said $Deity

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 09:04 • by Valerion (unregistered)
Is that cup-holder sign an extensions of the old "CD-ROM as cup-holder" urban legend support story?

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 09:14 • by Hoffmann (unregistered)
If I'm not mistaken that quartus error actually happens because you are using the trial version. If you see the full error message I think it will complain about not beign registered so it can't compile stuff.

Anyway quartus is an god awful ide. I hate it, but I have never used any of the alternatives so compare with.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 09:15 • by citricsquid (unregistered)
Glad to see cPanel has finally made an appearance. I do presume it's cPanels ticket support system, anyway, if not, someone submit that :D

Please post again to submit your post.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 09:22 • by Jay Jay (unregistered)
223834 in reply to 223811
Yeah, I get this style of letter from each of my credit cards that has been bought by Citibank. An annoyance, really; you'd think that All-Electronic would mean something. BTW, I don't think they're permitted to not send them. I recall asking a customer service rep if they could stop sending them, but I can't remember the exact answer. I'm still getting them, though. I do have a current email address registered with both, so it isn't the lack of an email address...

Agree with the third party; voting that way myself this year. With having Hugo Chavez and Hugo Chavez Lite on the main tickets, no way I'm voting for either...

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 09:24 • by dtech
223835 in reply to 223812
Einsidler:
Aww, I just wanna give that camera a hug and tell it everything is going to be ok.


I want to throw it in the Aperture Science Emergency Intelligence Incinerator as soon as possible. brrr... It creeps me out.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 09:27 • by Karl von L. (unregistered)
Apparently, using Quartus II is an error. If only other companies, such as Microsoft, were so honest about use of their products, the world would be a better place.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 09:43 • by David Emery (unregistered)
Well, I hope you have better luck with the "ATT Universal Card Fee-Free for Life" than we had. They canceled ours due to lack of use; guess they thought we were dead :-)

dave

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 10:04 • by OneMillion (unregistered)
I used to get letters that went a step further, claiming that my bank had been informed that I had not received my e-mail statement, which I had. The letters stopped coming when I started loading the images in the e-mails.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 10:18 • by friedo
I call BS. If the camera doesn't work, how could he have possibly taken a picture?!

Explain that one.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 10:28 • by eric76 (unregistered)
223842 in reply to 223811
S Larsen:
The real WTF is that, in this election, neither of the big old party candidates are seriously pushing smaller government and reduction of stupid regulations. So (unless it is going to come down to one vote in your state) maybe you should vote for a newer, smaller party candidate.
In any election, the big party candidates are not going to push smaller government.

There is a lot of talk about the unfairness of the tax system (higher tax rates at higher incomes and things like that). The funny thing is that those who are complaining the loudest are going to vote for a major party. And neither of the major parties we have now are going to do anything about it.

They don't seem to be able to understand that if we are ever going to see a significant drop in taxes, we are going to have to significantly drop spending.

And the major parties are too much in love with big spending to ever make any reductions in the size of government other than just enough to make it appear like they are going to do something.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 10:31 • by yah (unregistered)
223843 in reply to 223834
Jay Jay:
Yeah, I get this style of letter from each of my credit cards that has been bought by Citibank. An annoyance, really; you'd think that All-Electronic would mean something. BTW, I don't think they're permitted to not send them. I recall asking a customer service rep if they could stop sending them, but I can't remember the exact answer. I'm still getting them, though. I do have a current email address registered with both, so it isn't the lack of an email address...

Agree with the third party; voting that way myself this year. With having Hugo Chavez and Hugo Chavez Lite on the main tickets, no way I'm voting for either...


"Hugo Chavez Lite" - are you referring to complexion?

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 10:44 • by Lea Verou
223844 in reply to 223832
Hoffmann:
If I'm not mistaken that quartus error actually happens because you are using the trial version. If you see the full error message I think it will complain about not beign registered so it can't compile stuff.

Anyway quartus is an god awful ide. I hate it, but I have never used any of the alternatives so compare with.


Yeap, that's true, but I thought it looked lame anyway.

It was awful indeed. Thank god I only needed it for a course in uni, and not for my work.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 11:03 • by Jay Jay (unregistered)
223846 in reply to 223843
yah:
Jay Jay:
Yeah, I get this style of letter from each of my credit cards that has been bought by Citibank. An annoyance, really; you'd think that All-Electronic would mean something. BTW, I don't think they're permitted to not send them. I recall asking a customer service rep if they could stop sending them, but I can't remember the exact answer. I'm still getting them, though. I do have a current email address registered with both, so it isn't the lack of an email address...

Agree with the third party; voting that way myself this year. With having Hugo Chavez and Hugo Chavez Lite on the main tickets, no way I'm voting for either...


"Hugo Chavez Lite" - are you referring to complexion?


Nah; referring to the fact that one candidate seems to want to take the superhighway towards socialistic/big-government policies, the other a rickshaw. Both are getting us there, but one is a bit slower in method, hence the 'Lite'. No complexion issues involved or implied.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 11:12 • by tombom (unregistered)
223849 in reply to 223811
S Larsen:
Your clue is at the bottom of the letter: FEDERAL REGULATIONS REQUIRE THE STATEMENT.

It does not matter that you, the buyer, and AT&T, the seller, have agreed that the statement is unnecessary. You're too stupid, you see, and the federal government knows better, so they're going to butt their heads into the middle and tell everyone what to do. You need a statement because it is good for you.

The real WTF is that, in this election, neither of the big old party candidates are seriously pushing smaller government and reduction of stupid regulations. So (unless it is going to come down to one vote in your state) maybe you should vote for a newer, smaller party candidate.


The second reply and it somehow manages to be about politics. Amazing.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 11:14 • by ZaM
It's obvious! That form don't allow autopoiesis.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 11:24 • by David (unregistered)
223857 in reply to 223812
This! The message is just sooo helpless and cute!

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 11:50 • by jimicus (unregistered)
I used to own a Minolta SLR.

This error is from an older Minolta film camera.

Earlier models didn't have the intelligence to display error codes. All they could do was say "Help". Apparently the later ones did show error codes but I've never seen one.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 12:19 • by A. Peon (unregistered)
The AT&T notice isn't really a WTF. It gives you a paper trail confirming that you've elected to receive no further paper, and protects against various situations that must be incredibly common (accidentally signed up; one of multiple people on the account signed up; SNAFU happened and someone without a computer got signed up)...

The failure modes for some of those cases without the paper notice are a lot worse.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 12:22 • by A. Peon (unregistered)
223888 in reply to 223887
[I fail, I missed the fact that it's being sent out every month, not once when enrolling.]

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 12:31 • by lolwtf
223890 in reply to 223840
friedo:
I call BS. If the camera doesn't work, how could he have possibly taken a picture?!

Explain that one.
He took the camera back in time, and took a photo of it with the non-broken camera in the past.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 12:45 • by halcyon1234
223895 in reply to 223890
lolwtf:
friedo:
I call BS. If the camera doesn't work, how could he have possibly taken a picture?!

Explain that one.
He took the camera back in time, and took a photo of it with the non-broken camera in the past.


Nonono, what he did was take a picture, but captured the picture in a can. Then, when the camera was broken, he opened the can and voila-- he still had one picture stored up that he could use.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 12:50 • by Vic Tim (unregistered)
Camera was either used to take naughty pictures for MySpace... a lot... or got sick of politics in comments on non-political message boards

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 13:30 • by hatterson
223905 in reply to 223811
S Larsen:
Your clue is at the bottom of the letter: FEDERAL REGULATIONS REQUIRE THE STATEMENT.

It does not matter that you, the buyer, and AT&T, the seller, have agreed that the statement is unnecessary. You're too stupid, you see, and the federal government knows better, so they're going to butt their heads into the middle and tell everyone what to do. You need a statement because it is good for you.

The real WTF is that, in this election, neither of the big old party candidates are seriously pushing smaller government and reduction of stupid regulations. So (unless it is going to come down to one vote in your state) maybe you should vote for a newer, smaller party candidate.


Yea that Federal Regulations line totally couldn't have been referring to some legalese on the reverse side of that paper. If that was the case it surely would have included "REVERSE SIDE" at the end of the sentence.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 14:01 • by timias
At least Quartus II didn't advertise reliability

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 14:29 • by Mike (unregistered)
I get those Citicard related paper mails too. TRWTF is why out of ALL the mail communication they send, these have your FULL account number printed on them (the others just use last 4 digits).

Oh and the whole reverse-side federal regulations thing. They use standard paper for all their mail communications; the fine print is required for some of their communications and apparently it's cheaper to buy pre-printed paper than to use blank paper for some and not others.

And no, federal requirements do not require paper notification of a bill; I have cards from other banks that are electronic and do not notify me by mail.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 14:49 • by bsaksida
Error: Welcome to the The Daily WTF. Thank you for chosing #1 site in humor and pupolarity

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 14:55 • by DWalker59
223928 in reply to 223834
Jay Jay:
Yeah, I get this style of letter from each of my credit cards that has been bought by Citibank. An annoyance, really; you'd think that All-Electronic would mean something. BTW, I don't think they're permitted to not send them. I recall asking a customer service rep if they could stop sending them, but I can't remember the exact answer. I'm still getting them, though. I do have a current email address registered with both, so it isn't the lack of an email address...



YES, credit card companies are "permitted" to not send any paper. I have agreed with a few of my card companies to stop sending paper, and by golly, they don't mail me ANYTHING at all.

I don't know what the AT&T "law requires this notice" thing is talking about, it might be that way for phone companies, but I really doubt it.

For cards, you could call the company and ask them why they are still sending paper when you have asked them not to.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 15:11 • by Spencer (unregistered)
223933 in reply to 223810
Tim:
Looks like he hasn't given them his email address so they sent his monthly statement notification by post instead.

Not that much of a WTF.


That's exactly right, same thing happened to me, this is their substitute for the email notice saying your bill is ready.

You just have to log into the website and update your email address. If it is there already just change one character and change it back then hit OK so that their database will think it's been "updated".

It's also possible you haven't agreed to some new terms and conditions.

I bet you are not receiving email notices, right?

Not a WTF at all.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 15:39 • by FatherStorm (unregistered)
223937 in reply to 223873
jimicus:
I used to own a Minolta SLR.

This error is from an older Minolta film camera.

Earlier models didn't have the intelligence to display error codes. All they could do was say "Help". Apparently the later ones did show error codes but I've never seen one.


On mine it basically told me my AF drive was shot to heck. I ended up replacing the body. it's a real message that says, "No user servicable parts inside, take me to a camera shop so they cn tell you to replace me."

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 17:33 • by RyanE (unregistered)
223955 in reply to 223812
My laptop already has a cupholder.

Just push the button on the side, and it pops out.

Yes, I know, that's an old one.

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 18:43 • by The Fake WTF (unregistered)
The camera guy should get a transfer to the division that writes fortune cookie fortunes. You can at least send a better plea for help that way...

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 19:47 • by :-( my lapy has no cup-holder (unregistered)
if I press the button on the side of my lappy a solid plate slides out. I want the plastic thing with the whole like in my tower

Re: Almost All-Electronic

2008-10-21 20:31 • by GalacticCowboy
FEDERAL REGULATIONS REQUIRE THE COMMENT PRINTED HERE IN TRIPLICATE, LOST, FOUND AND BURIED IN A PEAT BOG.
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