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Hitchcock River had gotten so badly polluted that going for a dip in it would get you one of two things: superpowers or some kind of nasty flesh-eating bacterial infection. And as awesome as it'd be to have X-Ray vision, it was just not worth the risk. [expand full text]
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Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:12 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
Oh God, I remember that crap - "95% IBM compatible". Great, but that 5% makes a whole heap of difference...

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:16 • by Tarval (unregistered)
Never underestimate the power of the potential of hot lab assistants to help drive ingenuity and invention.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:16 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
Not exactly a WTF but interesting reading nonetheless, cheers.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:18 • by Tarval (unregistered)
243156 in reply to 243153
Pre-coffee commenting without previewing not recommended...
Two extra words turn sentences into ugly.

Tarval:
Never underestimate the power of potential hot lab assistants to help drive ingenuity and invention.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:22 • by Booboo (unregistered)
243157 in reply to 243155
Anonymous:
Not exactly a WTF but interesting reading nonetheless, cheers.
Not even _slightly_ a WTF. Wonderful stuff.

HP-85

2009-02-10 09:23 • by Dingbat (unregistered)
All this lab kit, and nothing running on IEEE-488 into a HP-85?

300 baud modems at the age of the 286-AT seems a bit retro too.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:23 • by Ollie Jones (unregistered)
Umm, young fellas, those are "foxy" lab assistants.
The word "hot" is soooo 90s.

And the VAX text editor was indeed a miserable crock. It was called teco.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:27 • by Code Dependent
243161 in reply to 243159
Ollie Jones:
Umm, young fellas, those are "foxy" lab assistants.
The word "hot" is soooo 90s.
Anything "female lab assistant" is soooo seventies. Why are the women all relegated to subordinate roles in which their main feature is appearance? What would be really cool is if "Gary" was instead "Mary".


Oh, wait... this was way back when, wasn't it. Nevermind.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:29 • by GreyWolf
243162 in reply to 243151
Anonymous:
Oh God, I remember that crap - "95% IBM compatible". Great, but that 5% makes a whole heap of difference...



Oh how we laughed in the Old Days at IBM, at Those Others with their Some Percent Compatible! We used to tell our customers that Compatibility is Like Pregnancy, Either You Are or You Aren't.


Then the rat fink customers looked at the price lists and decided 95% was close enough.

Of course, they wailed and gnashed their teeth later. For us, the worst bit was not being allowed to say "I Told You So".

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:29 • by Kensey
243163 in reply to 243159
Ollie Jones:
And the VAX text editor was indeed a miserable crock. It was called teco.


Then again, that miserable crock motivated the creation of what eventually became the OS we know as emacs, which lacks only a decent editor to be useful.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:32 • by kinz (unregistered)
"Hitchcock" River sounds a lot like the Cuyahoga...

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:35 • by Old TOPS-10 Dude (unregistered)
243165 in reply to 243163
Kensey:
Ollie Jones:
And the VAX text editor was indeed a miserable crock. It was called teco.


Then again, that miserable crock motivated the creation of what eventually became the OS we know as emacs, which lacks only a decent editor to be useful.


I remember TECO. I hated TECO. OTOH, I did like that you could produce useful results in your text buffer by starting TECO and just whacking the crap out of the acoustic coupler. Random line noise made a fine command stream for TECO.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:41 • by MetalPig
It woud be funnier if Ed's name were Jay.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:43 • by g (unregistered)
Ed's primary female contact on the job was the overseer of the Vax mainframe – a 67 year old grandmother with anger management issues, who would frequently throw fits, slamming a binder full of the source code on the monitor whenever she suspected someone of meddling with the system.

hahah!

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:51 • by Anon (unregistered)
I'm pretty sure that hot lab assistants only exist on CSI.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:53 • by Kef Schecter (unregistered)
243170 in reply to 243163
Kensey:
Then again, that miserable crock motivated the creation of what eventually became the OS we know as emacs, which lacks only a decent editor to be useful.


I laughed -- it's so true!

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:53 • by KattMan
243171 in reply to 243169
Anon:
I'm pretty sure that hot lab assistants only exist on CSI.


Lies! They exist on NCIS also. Oh wait, Abby isn't an assistant is she?

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:57 • by Matthew Watson (unregistered)
The Central Laboratory Information Terminal?

Interesting acronym...

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:57 • by Bob (unregistered)
243173 in reply to 243165
Old TOPS-10 Dude:
Kensey:
Ollie Jones:
And the VAX text editor was indeed a miserable crock. It was called teco.


Then again, that miserable crock motivated the creation of what eventually became the OS we know as emacs, which lacks only a decent editor to be useful.


I remember TECO. I hated TECO. OTOH, I did like that you could produce useful results in your text buffer by starting TECO and just whacking the crap out of the acoustic coupler. Random line noise made a fine command stream for TECO.


I remember EVE on VAX boxen, wasn't tooooo bad.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 09:58 • by Code Dependent
243174 in reply to 243159
Ollie Jones:
Umm, young fellas, those are "foxy" lab assistants.
The word "hot" is soooo 90s.
And "foxy" is so... oh, goodness, let me think, when did Hendrix come out with that song? Oh, yeah... 1967.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 10:06 • by shepd
Just FYI, laplink and netware both came out in 1983, so it is somewhat possible that a laplink-based network would have come first.

Somewhat.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 10:06 • by Code Dependent
243176 in reply to 243172
Matthew Watson:
The Central Laboratory Information Terminal?

Interesting acronym...
Thus rendering the subsequent sentence relevant:

"Some of the newer female lab assistants never seemed to understand the snickering among their male colleagues whenever the terminal was discussed."

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 10:11 • by bohica61
243177 in reply to 243159
Ollie Jones:
The word "hot" is soooo 90s.


All you have to do to give it a 21st century cachet is change the spelling: "hawt".

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 10:12 • by Crash Magnet (unregistered)
Would that local university be in a southern state on the banks of the Mississippi River (not New Orleans)?

The story about Ed's well funded arch-rivals with Mac's, GC's, MS's, and female lab assistances sounds a little like our group at XXU.


Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 10:14 • by Aehiilrs (unregistered)
243179 in reply to 243172
Matthew Watson:
The Central Laboratory Information Terminal?

Interesting acronym...


He just wanted to be able to say he was the CLIT Commander.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 10:20 • by valerion
CLIT? Pah. The Committe for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabilitation Into Society - now there's a real acronym.

</red dwarf>

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 10:35 • by Code Dependent
243182 in reply to 243180
valerion:
CLIT? Pah. The Committe for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabilitation Into Society - now there's a real acronym.

</red dwarf>
Nothing terrifying about that. I had it licked the first time I encountered it.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 10:38 • by mauhiz (unregistered)
That's how real men do PC networks. Do not try this at home, kids.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 10:38 • by T (unregistered)
I don't understand. What's the WTF here? This is just plain awesome. The guy's a freakin' hero!

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 10:38 • by TakeASeatOverThere
More stories like this one, all the nostalgia is just awesome.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 10:42 • by Vilx- (unregistered)
243187 in reply to 243184
Yup. Have to have some positive stories too once in a while, no?

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 10:46 • by Bob (unregistered)
243190 in reply to 243171
KattMan:
Anon:
I'm pretty sure that hot lab assistants only exist on CSI.


Lies! They exist on NCIS also. Oh wait, Abby isn't an assistant is she?


Abby doesn't fit the criteria in the first place. Forced-adult-goth is more irritating and saddengingly fake than her just being normal. Take out the obvious and overwhelming stereotypical goth stuff about her, and then she'd fit just fine.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 10:47 • by Rasomuro (unregistered)
Some detail is anachronistic (and I'm not talking about the hot lab assistants)... How is it possible that, well within the IBM PC era, somebody could find the name "Apple" strange for a computer?

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 11:00 • by pjt33
243193 in reply to 243191
Rasomuro:
Some detail is anachronistic (and I'm not talking about the hot lab assistants)... How is it possible that, well within the IBM PC era, somebody could find the name "Apple" strange for a computer?

Good point. It's no stranger than Apricot or Dragon.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 11:00 • by Consultuning (unregistered)
This is one of the best stories I've read so far in TDWTF. Well written, and it managed to bring fond memories of the time when I was doing similar things, challenging the status quo of computer technology using those new "personal" computers (and the PC was not the dominant player so you had a lot of variety to choose) Long gone are the days where one could radically change the way people worked using technology.

Today, everything has become so standarized that one wonders if there is actually room for innovation anywhere. We're using technology as a commodity, and probably missing a million of opportunities to make people lives easier.

Still, the store has a certain literary smell. I, for one, never saw new technology attracting female lab assistants matching certain physical features. Perhaps it was just me, that would explain a lot of my assumptions about how woman behave according to their looks.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 11:05 • by Da' Man (unregistered)
..and the best thing is:

With the help of a few coloured marker pencils you can even draw something that remotely resembles an Apple logo onto these PCs.

Captcha: amet (remind me to ask some priest if it is still valid if misspelled)

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 11:08 • by Sutherlands
243198 in reply to 243161
Code Dependent:
Ollie Jones:
Umm, young fellas, those are "foxy" lab assistants.
The word "hot" is soooo 90s.
Anything "female lab assistant" is soooo seventies. Why are the women all relegated to subordinate roles in which their main feature is appearance? What would be really cool is if "Gary" was instead "Mary".

No, what would be really cool is if the story come with pictures.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 11:17 • by clum1 (unregistered)
The Central Laboratory Information Terminal?

Even with an AD and GB ethernet, I still have trouble finding it on the network. The hot female lab assistants get so frustrated.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 11:18 • by TadGhostal (unregistered)
243200 in reply to 243166
OMFG!!! I was thinking *exactly* the same thing! (except I was thinking Pete)

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 11:19 • by TadGhostal (unregistered)
243201 in reply to 243166
MetalPig:
It woud be funnier if Ed's name were Jay.


OMFG!!! I was thinking *exactly* the same thing! (except I was thinking Pete)

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 11:29 • by Gnubeutel (unregistered)
hahahahaha.
"Central Laboratory Information Terminal."
hahahahahaha

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 11:33 • by Ranxerox (unregistered)
Ah yes, paper clips to hold cables to the ceiling. I did that back in the 80's because the company wouldn't allocate resources to run them in the ceiling and the walls. I had them running across hallways and such.

Then the fire inspector came. Suddenly there was budget to do the job right. ;-)

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 11:41 • by eric76 (unregistered)
In the late 70s, someone at a certain well-known oil company had two PDP-11's next to each other and was wanting to network them together.

Someone suggested, not very seriously, that since the tape drives of the two machines were side by side, they could cut a couple small holes in each cabinet, splice a tape to make it continuous, and let it run.

They never actually did that, of course, but the thought of it has made me laugh whenever I think about it ever since.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 11:44 • by eric76 (unregistered)
243207 in reply to 243159
Ollie Jones:
And the VAX text editor was indeed a miserable crock. It was called teco.
I used to use Teco on PDP-11's, but I dont' remember ever even seeing it on a VAX.

I've often wished I had a copy I could use on my OpenBSD machines.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 11:46 • by amischiefr
243208 in reply to 243161
Code Dependent:
Ollie Jones:
Umm, young fellas, those are "foxy" lab assistants.
The word "hot" is soooo 90s.
Anything "female lab assistant" is soooo seventies. Why are the women all relegated to subordinate roles in which their main feature is appearance? What would be really cool is if "Gary" was instead "Mary".


Oh, wait... this was way back when, wasn't it. Nevermind.

Because objectifying women is fun? </shrug> What are we supposed to look at, their personalities? Fuck that. Show me some titties!@

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 12:00 • by Bob (unregistered)
243210 in reply to 243208
amischiefr:
Code Dependent:
Ollie Jones:
Umm, young fellas, those are "foxy" lab assistants.
The word "hot" is soooo 90s.
Anything "female lab assistant" is soooo seventies. Why are the women all relegated to subordinate roles in which their main feature is appearance? What would be really cool is if "Gary" was instead "Mary".


Oh, wait... this was way back when, wasn't it. Nevermind.

Because objectifying women is fun? </shrug> What are we supposed to look at, their personalities? Fuck that. Show me some titties!@


Performance review time!

Karen, you've been given a grade of B. Sheila, your grade is an A. Stacy, your final grade is DD.

Stacy, FTW.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 12:13 • by webhamster
243215 in reply to 243172
Matthew Watson:
The Central Laboratory Information Terminal?

Interesting acronym...


I once wrote something I called the "Purchase Management System" (totally not noticing the acronym) until the (female) accountant quietly suggested I think about the name...hence the "Purchase & Expense Management System" was born...although the "E" part of the code didn't actually exist until version 2.0.

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 12:15 • by Charles400
While reading this story, another memory was was playing out on another thread in my head. Scotty was in the engine room patching together a warp coil...

Re: Damn the River

2009-02-10 12:16 • by An Onymous (unregistered)
This story is more of a WTG than a WTF.

Re: HP-85

2009-02-10 12:32 • by JamesQMurphy
243219 in reply to 243158
Dingbat:
All this lab kit, and nothing running on IEEE-488 into a HP-85?

300 baud modems at the age of the 286-AT seems a bit retro too.

Seems about right to me. The AT came out in 1984, and I was still playing with my acoustic 300 baud modem at the time.

Remember too, Gary didn't have the 286's, he had the hand-me-down 8088's, so it's likely he had hand-me-down 300 baud modems as well.
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