Comment On Film At 11:00

"This just in: our clock has been adjusted for daylight savings time. To find out why you should be terrified by this and other things, tune in at 11:00." [expand full text]
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Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 12:20 • by AC (unregistered)
"Film at 11:00"

At 11:00 DST on non-DST ?

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 12:25 • by Rolf (unregistered)
That reminded me of picture of BSOD on TVs at airplane waiting areas.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 12:25 • by Anonymous Coward (unregistered)
So would it be at 11:00 plus/minus an hour?

I guess if you lived on the border of a time zone, it could be 11:00 plus/minus 2 hours.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 12:35 • by Anthony in Toronto (unregistered)
Okay, who else just tried to click the "Ok" button on that picture?

I'll admit it. I'm a dork.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 12:37 • by Jeff (unregistered)
138460 in reply to 138456
I saw one of those in the international airport in Rome when my wife and I traveled to Italy. It was quite surprising, and a little bit freaky.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 12:38 • by Lucas Goodwin (unregistered)
So this guys TV is running windows? WTF?

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 12:48 • by rd (unregistered)
OMFG! Everything they said about Y2.007194520547K is true!

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 12:52 • by Migala (unregistered)
138466 in reply to 138461
Lucas Goodwin:
So this guys TV is running windows? WTF?


I wouldn't be surprised to see this on my TV at all; I have a media center (running Windows MCE).

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 12:53 • by Andrew (unregistered)
Look at the bright side, at least it doesn't say:

"We just pushed another patch to your system to fix another bug. We will reboot your machine in 5 seconds. Please save all of your work."

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 12:56 • by Maximilianop
So this tv network is using a windows based computer to provide content trough the tv-out port. Or maybe this pic is from someone who has a tv tuner on the pc plus a tv-out to tv.

Anyway, which time is the move on ??

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 12:57 • by bpk (unregistered)
since when did they get computers in Arkansas?

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 12:58 • by mrprogguy
The REAL WTF (*sigh* I couldn't stop myself) is that nobody uses film anymore. It's all digital/analog tape or solid state digital media anymore.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 12:58 • by Dan (unregistered)
The real question is whether this dialog was displayed by a Media Center PC DVR or by the channel broadcasting the show.

The real WTF is why anyone would watch Fox news.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 12:59 • by Guy With a Pet Peeve (unregistered)
The phrase is "Daylight Saving Time". Singular. Thank you, that is all.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 12:59 • by Michael (unregistered)
138473 in reply to 138461
Lucas Goodwin:
So this guys TV is running windows? WTF?
I think the implication is that this guy's local TV broadcaster is running their feed through windows. If this guy is using MCE or something, then this isn't a WTF, just a funny coincidence given the background image. If, however, the Windows dialog is being sent by the broadcaster, and possibly related to the "Technical Difficulties", that is indeed a WTF.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 13:00 • by jj (unregistered)
138474 in reply to 138470
yeah, it really is a WTF that we as a society made advances to improve quality of sound/picture

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 13:00 • by Michael (unregistered)
138475 in reply to 138469
bpk:
since when did they get computers in Arkansas?
They've had computers in Arkansas for decades, but they just now got the electricity.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 13:07 • by Zach (unregistered)
138476 in reply to 138471
It's CBS.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 13:08 • by Sven (unregistered)
It's the TV station who's giving the message, not the TV. If he was using MCE, you wouldn't get that message, since NT-based versions of Windows have never given that message (at least since NT4, not entirely sure about older versions).

There was a funny bug with this on the Dutch versions of Win9x (that actually still exists in the Dutch version of Windows Mobile 5). In Dutch, we don't say "Daylight Savings Time", we say "zomertijd" (summer time) and "wintertijd" (winter time). But since Windows has only the one message for this, it would always say "De klok is aangepast aan de zomertijd" (the clock has been adjusted to summer time) even at the start of winter time.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 13:25 • by yet another Matt
138479 in reply to 138459
Anthony in Toronto:
Okay, who else just tried to click the "Ok" button on that picture?

I'll admit it. I'm a dork.


I tried bringing the message box to focus first, so I could read it better.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 13:28 • by Frederik (unregistered)
That reminds me of the Barcelona metro. They have some kind of "Metro TV", but it would frequently show a Windows "Low on Virtual Memory" error message. Always made me smile.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 13:31 • by Lummox (unregistered)
138482 in reply to 138459
Anthony in Toronto:
Okay, who else just tried to click the "Ok" button on that picture?

I'll admit it. I'm a dork.


The same people that click OK to those fake windows banner ads saying "Click on this windows-style looking alert to make your Internets move faster! [Ok][Cancel]"

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 13:31 • by - (unregistered)
Years ago my local cable provider used an Amiga to deliver content to the "info channel". I found this out when the info channel displayed a Guru Meditation :-)

Later I moved, where the TV greeted me with the BSOD of Windows 95.

In both cases I waited and looked at the person rebooting the machine and starting the presentations - I obviously have no life.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 13:32 • by TheRider
138484 in reply to 138468
Maximilianop:
So this tv network is using a windows based computer to provide content trough the tv-out port. Or maybe this pic is from someone who has a tv tuner on the pc plus a tv-out to tv.

I think so, too. Where is the WTF? Just klick the fu...ng button and move on with life.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 13:39 • by Anon (unregistered)
I've seen some local public access or information channels displaying just the windows taskbar at the bottom of the screen for long periods of time.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 13:46 • by Mike (unregistered)
138487 in reply to 138467
Just change it already....

http://lifehacker.com/software/windows/get-rid-of-windows-update-restart-nag-183976.php

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 13:47 • by Mike (unregistered)
138488 in reply to 138487
.. I meant that in reference to the person that mentioned the windows update restart pending notification ..

I forgot to quote it.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 13:51 • by ebs2002
The pop-up window is being broadcast by the TV station. It's not on the end-user's device.

I think that's the only way this would be a WTF, so that must be what it is (because TDWTF never posts articles where there's no WTF, right? right?

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 13:59 • by Ken (unregistered)
138491 in reply to 138483
-:
Years ago my local cable provider used an Amiga to deliver content to the "info channel". I found this out when the info channel displayed a Guru Meditation :-)

Later I moved, where the TV greeted me with the BSOD of Windows 95.

Like this one from my cable company a few years ago:

http://www.hvcomputer.com/temp/wtf-tv.jpg

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 14:05 • by GrandmasterB (unregistered)
138493 in reply to 138471
Dan:
The real WTF is why anyone would watch Fox news.


Eh, that was CBS there, Mr. Rather.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 14:06 • by mare
My IPTV provider has some sort of 'music channel' or 'radio' as they call it, where they play music 24/7. It is usually accompanied by the sight of a windows desktop with windows media player, displaying the same error message over and over again (something about a certain file not fount...;))

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 14:09 • by GrandmasterB (unregistered)
Here's what I think is happening. They have a PC that outputs the 'technical difficulties' banner continuously so they can switch to that whenever they need it. They're not using Windows to feed their channel per se - they just have a dedicated pc outputting that one frame so the engineers have *some* feed to switch to when there are problems.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 14:10 • by GrandmasterB (unregistered)
138498 in reply to 138486
Anon:
I've seen some local public access or information channels displaying just the windows taskbar at the bottom of the screen for long periods of time.


Ours does that as well. There's appearently a popular software package for running cable info channels that runs under windows. I've also seen it reboot a couple of times :-)

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 14:11 • by Andy Janata (unregistered)
TRWTF is that they're using Win9x for a critical system.


Mmm... tacos (captcha). Dammit, now I'm hungry again.

Zomertijd

2007-05-24 14:12 • by Shinobu (unregistered)
138500 in reply to 138477
Sven:
the clock has been adjusted to summer time) even at the start of winter time.
Ah yes, that brings back memories! Getting that message at the start of wintertime and checking if per chance the computer clock had been adjusted in the wrong direction. Those were the days. YouTube filmpje (make sure to read the translations as you go along - so touching)

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 14:16 • by Neil W. (unregistered)
138504 in reply to 138489
This was not from a media PC; it was broadcast. If it had been a message from my media PC I would have 1) taken a screenshot and 2) not submitted it here because it wouldn't have been a WTF. I might have skipped step one.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 14:31 • by jsbillings
138506 in reply to 138483
I remember seeing the Guru Meditation error on my local "community" station. Now it's just boring windows.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 14:34 • by aaaaaaaa (unregistered)

sounds like somebody has a case of the mondays

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 15:16 • by Theo (unregistered)
138508 in reply to 138459
Anthony in Toronto:
Okay, who else just tried to click the "Ok" button on that picture?

I'll admit it. I'm a dork.


I have a Cancel button on my wooden table, me too.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 15:29 • by Chris (unregistered)
138510 in reply to 138461
Lucas Goodwin:
So this guys TV is running windows? WTF?


No, apparently the TV station is running Windows to do their screen cards. And I imagine the station manager wasn't too happy with whoever's responsible for that box.

Chris Mattern

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 15:30 • by savar
138511 in reply to 138459
Anthony in Toronto:
Okay, who else just tried to click the "Ok" button on that picture?

I'll admit it. I'm a dork.


No, you're Paula Bean.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 15:36 • by Ifni (unregistered)
To me, the WTF is that they are simply using video out on the main display to broadcast their message. This is akin to creating a service that interacts with the desktop - it's bad form. I'm fairly certain that most professional compositing tools send only the desired video stream to the output, not the user interface itself. This is like using Windows Media Player to play an MP3 and using the 1/4 jacks to record directly to cassette tape, then browsing the Internet and getting a whole bunch of Windows interface sounds recorded along with the MP3.

In this case, it looks like the station used Powerpoint to display a single slide and just used the analog out on their display adapter to pump the image into the broadcast stream. Cheap and effective, but prone to non-professional results such as this.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 16:02 • by deice (unregistered)
It's freakingly common to see windows error messages on various media. The only one that really curdled my blood was seeing Windows embedded or smth displaying a GPF warning dialog on an ATM machine in finland. Handling money is the last thing I would let windows touch.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 16:16 • by Lothar (unregistered)
You can do this kind of thing for yourself. All you need is a TV-card and watch TV during the time the time-change is happening. The popup-window might come from the locally running windows being shown over the tv-program being shown in fullscreen-mode.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 16:59 • by Troy Mclure (unregistered)
As noted it usually seems to be the public-access or equally crappy stations that I've seen stuff like this on. I've seen error messages, desktops - stuff you know you arent supposed ot be seeing on a tv. And they wonder why public access gets a bad rap for being amateurish.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 17:15 • by EvanED
138555 in reply to 138513
Ifni:
To me, the WTF is that they are simply using video out on the main display to broadcast their message. This is akin to creating a service that interacts with the desktop - it's bad form. I'm fairly certain that most professional compositing tools send only the desired video stream to the output, not the user interface itself. This is like using Windows Media Player to play an MP3 and using the 1/4 jacks to record directly to cassette tape, then browsing the Internet and getting a whole bunch of Windows interface sounds recorded along with the MP3.


I've actually done that. (Also when recording streaming audio direct to hard drive. I mean wait, I don't do that.) And then you play it back and think someone has IM'd you, only to realize after a moment of confusion what happened.

Then again, I'm a student and I have no money.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 17:18 • by net-send (unregistered)
138559 in reply to 138454
The college station was frequently hit by the notorious "net send" spam that was frequent a few years ago. Always good for a laugh.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 17:30 • by gwenhwyfaer
138564 in reply to 138493
GrandmasterB:
Dan:
The real WTF is why anyone would watch Fox news.


Eh, that was CBS there, Mr. Rather.

Indeed it was, but I still think Dan's making a valid point. ;)

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-24 22:21 • by tin
This is like how Optus use Powerpoint on their satellite "tuning" channel (on Optus B3 and C1). You can see the little transparent menu button thing at the bottom corner.

If you were to watch it long enough you would probably get to see some odd things like dialogs, BSODs, reboots, etc.

Re: Film At 11:00

2007-05-25 03:12 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
138648 in reply to 138484
TheRider:
Maximilianop:
So this tv network is using a windows based computer to provide content trough the tv-out port. Or maybe this pic is from someone who has a tv tuner on the pc plus a tv-out to tv.

I think so, too. Where is the WTF? Just klick the fu...ng button and move on with life.


WTF#1 (the root WTF) DST is still in practice in the Western world.
WTF#2 Windows keeps time *internally* in localtime, subject to DST adjustments, rather than in UTC.
WTF#3 Windows doesn't separate the video output from the desktop screen. (X11 _is_ capable of using separate screens and displays. So, it's possible to have one screen output dedicated to TV output, and another screen to controlling the video mixing, etc. Even with only one screen/display, one may still use virtual desktops to avoid having messages displayed on top of video output.)
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