Comment On Intellisense Comes Alive!

Obviously that should have been:

list<na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na,

    na, na, na, na, na, na>

      katamari, damancy;

I was gonna start my password with abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz, but I figured everyone uses that alphabet.

I assume the second intellisense choice is "na na ne boo boo".

Address intoned just before the security question in #3:

The Lizard King:

Brothers and sisters of the pale forest,
O children of night,
Who among you will run with the hunt?

Now Night arrives with her purple legion.
Retire now to your tents, and to your dreams.
Tomorrow we enter the town of my birth.
I want to be ready.

na = not available ?

na na na na na na hey hey hey goodbye.

list <na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, hey, jude>

Jonathan:

na = not available ?

Of course it is!

1 of 2 list <na na na na na na na na na na na hey Jude>
2 of 2 list <na na na na na na na na na na na hey Jude>

Using "alphabet" for "alphabetic character" or "letter" is a common mistake among Finns at least. Finnish doesn't really have a word for alphabet; you just use the word for alphabetic characters ("aakkonen") in plural ("aakkoset"). For the same reason, the alphabet ends up becoming "the alphabets" in Finglish.

The last one made me cringe. Okay, it says "alphabet" where it probably means "letter". But that's not it. I'm thinking about why this site should bother at all whether or not my password starts with a letter. Hopefully I'm wrong about this, but I have a suspicion that this is a hideous workaround for security problems further down the line - e.g. SQL injection or passwords being used in number context in Perl, VBScript or a similar language.

I mean it's ok to limit the available characters for the entire password, e.g. only ASCII letters, decimal digit, spaces and possibly some punctuation characters exluding quotes. This can be justified in terms of pro-active security and avoiding i18n issues. But why run a special check on the first character? And why exclude digits? It doesn't make any sense. If

' or ''='

is rejected because it does not start with a letter, but

a' or ''='

is accepted, then any foolishly implemented SQL query (and, as we all know, about 1 in 2 SQL queries is foolishly implemented) is still wide open.

And by the way, WTF do they mean with 4 attempts remaining? Why would failing to enter a good (for an arbitrary definition of "good") new password decrement this counter? By the time they've explained all of their arbitrary password limitations to the users, the attempts are up, good bye, please call tech support? Great!

Novus:

Using "alphabet" for "alphabetic character" or "letter" is a common mistake among Finns at least. Finnish doesn't really have a word for alphabet; you just use the word for alphabetic characters ("aakkonen") in plural ("aakkoset"). For the same reason, the alphabet ends up becoming "the alphabets" in Finglish.

Nice. Something new to make fun of Linus about.

list <na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, BATMAN!>

phil:

1 of 2 list <na na na na na na na na na na na hey Jude>
2 of 2 list <na na na na na na na na na na na hey Jude>

1 of 2 list <na na na na na na na na na na na hey Jude>
2 of 2 list <Ju-juudy Judy Judy Juday Juday Ow Wow>

Great, now I'm going to have three different, equally stupid songs stuck in my head all day.

AdT:

And by the way, WTF do they mean with 4 attempts remaining? Why would failing to enter a good (for an arbitrary definition of "good") new password decrement this counter? By the time they've explained all of their arbitrary password limitations to the users, the attempts are up, good bye, please call tech support? Great!

Because if after five tries you fail to recount an alphabet, you're likely not a student. 8=]

mudkip:

Novus:

Using "alphabet" for "alphabetic character" or "letter" is a common mistake among Finns at least. Finnish doesn't really have a word for alphabet; you just use the word for alphabetic characters ("aakkonen") in plural ("aakkoset"). For the same reason, the alphabet ends up becoming "the alphabets" in Finglish.

Nice. Something new to make fun of Linus about.

Linus is a Swedish-speaking Finn (or "Finland Swede"), so he probably gets it right without even thinking about it ("alfabet"="alphabet").

na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na, she's got the look!

It's just another crime...

Captcha s/b: Journey!

Ashley's example sounds more typical of the game programmer/artist relationship.

I often see "alphabet" for "alphabetic letter" in English from East Asia, where of course the letters (or characters, or logogram, or ideographs, or morpho-syllabograms, are not alphabetic).

you've just read my mind boy

Now it's your turn, girl, to cry
Na na na na na na
Na na na na na
Na na na na na na
Na na na na na

Goodbye!

KingOfAllCosmos:

Obviously that should have been:

list<na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na,

    na, na, na, na, na, na>

      katamari, damancy;

It would be even better as:

 list<na, na, na, na, na, na, hey, hey, hey, good, bye>

The only thing wrong with the fx file one was that "before" wasn't also written as _BEFORE_

mh:

The only thing wrong with the fx file one was that "before" wasn't also written as _BEFORE_

No, the relationship still sounds too healthy to me. Some strong language would spice up things more.

"Do you do drugs danny?"

"Every day, sir."

"good boy, Danny. Good boy."

na na na na na na

My password starts with the Chinese alphabet. Takes a long time to type though.

Galbrezu:

list <na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, BATMAN!>

Win.

Diamonds on the soles of her shoes ... na na na na na

Or someone didn't not when to stop while spelling banana...

Ashley R. sent in an example of the typical developer/tester relationship:

That actually sounds more like a message to artists using the tool, rather than to testers...
Artists have a very nasty habit of "finding" developers as soon as they see any error message, and of course error messages are always super high priority work-flow blockers. I've been dragged aside a few times because a tool I help maintain "isn't working" and they "can't figure out why because the error messages are confusing"... The error message was along the lines of "Cannot write to file, out of disk space"........
So our only hope is to make messages like this and maybe put up posters in their work area. "Before wasting half an hour of a devs time, spend two minutes checking the following...."

ah....even got the correct number of na's, as per sir paul.

My alphabets came up as a blank image the first time... But that's what happens when you are forced through a WTF of a proxy.

Anonymouse:

Ashley R. sent in an example of the typical developer/tester relationship:

That actually sounds more like a message to artists using the tool, rather than to testers...
Artists have a very nasty habit of "finding" developers as soon as they see any error message, and of course error messages are always super high priority work-flow blockers. I've been dragged aside a few times because a tool I help maintain "isn't working" and they "can't figure out why because the error messages are confusing"... The error message was along the lines of "Cannot write to file, out of disk space"........
So our only hope is to make messages like this and maybe put up posters in their work area. "Before wasting half an hour of a devs time, spend two minutes checking the following...."

Sorry, but anyone who uses multiple exclamation points and words like "_DO_" deserves all the grief the world at large can heap upon them. More power to you, idiot artists! Give 'em hell.

Anonymouse:

Ashley R. sent in an example of the typical developer/tester relationship:

That actually sounds more like a message to artists using the tool, rather than to testers...
Artists have a very nasty habit of "finding" developers as soon as they see any error message, and of course error messages are always super high priority work-flow blockers. I've been dragged aside a few times because a tool I help maintain "isn't working" and they "can't figure out why because the error messages are confusing"... The error message was along the lines of "Cannot write to file, out of disk space"........
So our only hope is to make messages like this and maybe put up posters in their work area. "Before wasting half an hour of a devs time, spend two minutes checking the following...."

feh. out of disk space errors are for n00bs..any REAL programmer would just write a function to delete random files from the disk (excluding, of course, the contents of the application's directory) until there is sufficient space to perform the operation...

KingOfAllCosmos:

Obviously that should have been:

list<na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na,

    na, na, na, na, na, na>

      katamari, damancy;

heh, hadn't thought of that.
Maybe it's mocking us though? If I were intellisense and suddenly became aware I'd mock programmers for not being able to remember names. I mean, really, you have a massive amount of memory between your ears. What do I have, A couple of lousy DDR2 sticks?

Novus:

Using "alphabet" for "alphabetic character" or "letter" is a common mistake among Finns at least. Finnish doesn't really have a word for alphabet; you just use the word for alphabetic characters ("aakkonen") in plural ("aakkoset"). For the same reason, the alphabet ends up becoming "the alphabets" in Finglish.

What about "kirjain" (singular) or "kirjaimet" (plural) ?
Pretty much direct equivalent for letter.
Actually I can't even recall if I've ever seen the word "aakkonen" used this way.

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzpassword

Just in case anyone wonders: the first one is IntelliSense being unable to distinguish between std::list and boost::mpl::list, which really has the shown default values for its many template parameters.

My name?:

My password starts with the Chinese alphabet. Takes a long time to type though.

Galbrezu:

list <na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, BATMAN!>

Win.

Seconded! We have winner! Internet now closed!

Pingmaster:

(excluding, of course, the contents of the application's directory)

Whaaat? You kids these days have no idea how to write code.

Grant:

Captcha s/b: Journey!

Is that "s/b" short for "should be"? I don't know what you should be punched in the head for first; quoting a captcha, insisting on getting a different captcha than the one you actually did, or BEING TOO LAZY TO WRITE "SHOULD BE" IN FULL DESPITE BEING SO MUCH OF A TYPAHOLIC THAT YOU QUOTE CAPTCHAS.

"Stop thinking and be the ball".

Na na na na na na na na na.....

CornedBee:

Just in case anyone wonders: the first one is IntelliSense being unable to distinguish between std::list and boost::mpl::list, which really has the shown default values for its many template parameters.

IntelliSense works with booost?
I should switch to VS 2005 then.

Synonymous Awkward:

Grant:

Captcha s/b: Journey!

Is that "s/b" short for "should be"? I don't know what you should be punched in the head for first; quoting a captcha, insisting on getting a different captcha than the one you actually did, or BEING TOO LAZY TO WRITE "SHOULD BE" IN FULL DESPITE BEING SO MUCH OF A TYPAHOLIC THAT YOU QUOTE CAPTCHAS.

<3.

tl;dr.

maybe i sould have reserved this gif for other text.. humm..

Truly speaking, this post was totally ridiculous.

AdT:

The last one made me cringe. Okay, it says "alphabet" where it probably means "letter". But that's not it. I'm thinking about why this site should bother at all whether or not my password starts with a letter. Hopefully I'm wrong about this, but I have a suspicion that this is a hideous workaround for security problems further down the line - e.g. SQL injection or passwords being used in number context in Perl, VBScript or a similar language.

I mean it's ok to limit the available characters for the entire password, e.g. only ASCII letters, decimal digit, spaces and possibly some punctuation characters exluding quotes. This can be justified in terms of pro-active security and avoiding i18n issues. But why run a special check on the first character? And why exclude digits? It doesn't make any sense. If

' or ''='

is rejected because it does not start with a letter, but

a' or ''='

is accepted, then any foolishly implemented SQL query (and, as we all know, about 1 in 2 SQL queries is foolishly implemented) is still wide open.

And by the way, WTF do they mean with 4 attempts remaining? Why would failing to enter a good (for an arbitrary definition of "good") new password decrement this counter? By the time they've explained all of their arbitrary password limitations to the users, the attempts are up, good bye, please call tech support? Great!

And finally if your "good friends" know where you are born then you may already be screwed, anyway.

Whats wrong with the last one? Is starting with an alphabet wrong?

it sounds like epro from beck
http://www.google.com.ar/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D7WcXWK-Ez8s&ei=g8lGR-HJDofGgQLopemBDQ&usg=AFQjCNFf36ZKUS3VmMHNcUSvTTpwA89hOw&sig2=VdrNYzK7qphvv0--I8aZ5g

mudkip:

Novus:

Using "alphabet" for "alphabetic character" or "letter" is a common mistake among Finns at least. Finnish doesn't really have a word for alphabet; you just use the word for alphabetic characters ("aakkonen") in plural ("aakkoset"). For the same reason, the alphabet ends up becoming "the alphabets" in Finglish.

Nice. Something new to make fun of Linus about.

Linus speaks swedish, not finnish.

Erick:

Now it's your turn, girl, to cry
Na na na na na na
Na na na na na
Na na na na na na
Na na na na na

Journey FTW!!!