Comment On It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

It's All About C Now (from Dan M) Last year, I saw that a certain founded-and-headquartered-in-the-Netherlands electronics company was hiring web developers in my town, so sent in my résumé. Like most résumés, mine contained the standard skills & buzzword section: Languages and technical writing: PHP, MySQL, AJAX, JavaScript, PRADO Framework, MSSQL Server, C#, .Net Framework, Perl, C/C++, Visual Basic, ASP, HTML, DHTML, XML, SOAP, CSS, Java, UML [expand full text]
« PrevPage 1 | Page 2 | Page 3 | Page 4 | Page 5Next »

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-08 12:04 • by ExaminerJ (unregistered)
Ex. patent office employee here.

The USPTO only hires CEs; not CSs, not ITs, etc.
I'm not sure why though. They hire around 100 people every month, and about %80 (estimate) will leave in the first two years, so you know they'll hire anyone with a BS in a degree that ends in E.

Why they have that rule, I'm not sure. In all honesty, it doesn't take anything more than general highschool reading comprehension skills and the ability to use google to do that job. It's a very easy job though, so if you have no career goals it's a great place to go.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-08 12:07 • by Steve H (unregistered)
238152 in reply to 237929
Befuddled:
It's the easiest field narrower, if you can't get one simple short document about content you know intimately correct and readable and figure out how to use a spelling and grammar check then I don't need you.


I think we all wish you'd figure out how to use one.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-08 12:26 • by Me (unregistered)
238156 in reply to 237808

I tried that, but it was hard to get them in the envelope. Plus the staples never held them very securely.


You should try those nice vacuum sealed plastic envelopes, that will do the job.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-08 12:27 • by Seraph
238157 in reply to 238136
Wyrd:
An example of strawman would be if I were to talk about the bogusness of the point of view of a specific nutball religious extremest, and then went on to generalize from that, that all religious persons are nuts. *That's* strawman.

That isn't a strawman.

A strawman is where you misrepresent your opponents position by presenting a case that appears similar to his position but is easier to argue against. An example might be if I said "There are C programs that won't compile with a C++ compiler", and you said "What do you mean that C programs won't compile with a C++ compiler. Here is a C program that works fine. You clearly don't know what you're talking about".

I think what you're describing is the fallacy of composition. Where you infer something is true of the whole because it is true for part of the whole.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-08 12:46 • by Mern (unregistered)
238161 in reply to 237808
I would have to agree with JoJo on this one.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-08 13:34 • by curtmack (unregistered)
And lest we forget, the patent infringement suits against Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft back in 2007, claiming that - get this - some guy held a patent on the analog joystick. Just to be clear, we're talking about something that dates back to at LEAST the Atari 5200, which would be back in the 1982. When was this patent filed? 1998 - not only after the 5200, but also after the Nintendo 64 and the first DualShock controller.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-08 13:36 • by Code Dependent
238176 in reply to 238096
Wizard Stan:
Code Dependent:
Every essay I have ever read on getting hired, plus my Business and Professional Speaking class in college, have recommended that you not go beyond one page on your resume. A resume isn't an interview; it's a request for an interview. The details can come out in the interview.
You haven't been keeping up with the times. Much like how C has evolved and is no longer close enough to current C++ to be considered a subset under even the loosest definition of the word, the skill of resume writing has, as well, undergone quite a few changes. Only 12% of polled businesses agree with your statement, more suggest you should have as many as it takes (3+), while the most think you should stop at 2.
I did in fact quite recently read an article which sharply reminded the reader to keep the resume to one page. However, it's quite possible that you are correct; I'm not motivated to investigate. I have been at my present employer for eight years, and plan to be here another 10. Before this, five years with my previous employer. So yes, there has been no need for me to "keep up with the times" regarding resumes.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-08 13:43 • by Code Dependent
238177 in reply to 238157
Seraph:
A strawman is where you misrepresent your opponents position by presenting a case that appears similar to his position but is easier to argue against. An example might be if I said "There are C programs that won't compile with a C++ compiler", and you said "What do you mean that C programs won't compile with a C++ compiler. Here is a C program that works fine. You clearly don't know what you're talking about".

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-08 13:44 • by Buffled (unregistered)
238179 in reply to 237826
Anonymous Cowherd:
dubbreak:
C++ is a proper superset of C.


Incorrect. There are all kinds of things that are legal in C that are not legal in C++. void * conversions are the obvious example. C++'s compatibility with C is more or less limited to making sure you can use C headers and libraries in programs without any difficulty; running non-trivial C code through a compiler as C++ will generally not work.

C++ adds to C, thus making it a superset. In some cases, it adds restrictions. This does not make it any less a superset C.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-09 01:11 • by dbg (unregistered)
238245 in reply to 237859
the phrase is "for all intents and purposes".

you've made a common mistake based on assigning the phonetically similar "intensive" in place of "intents and", however this means you also never stopped to think about what the meaning of the words in the expression actually are.

what exactly would an intensive purpose be?

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-09 01:15 • by BentFranklin
The CIA incident was a test. Some kind of non-linear response was required to demonstrate he can think on his feet. The interviewee failed the test.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-09 02:18 • by Kef Schecter (unregistered)
238254 in reply to 238245
dbg:
the phrase is "for all intents and purposes".

you've made a common mistake based on assigning the phonetically similar "intensive" in place of "intents and", however this means you also never stopped to think about what the meaning of the words in the expression actually are.

what exactly would an intensive purpose be?


No, Steve said "for all intensive *porpoises*". It was a deliberate change (like "for hysterical raisins" instead of "for historical reasons").

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-09 03:07 • by Dave (unregistered)
I thought the USPTO one was well known, for many, many years the USPTO would specifically refuse to hire computer scientists to evaluate computer patents. In other words you had to be unqualified for the job in order to be allowed to it.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-09 11:23 • by Alehx (unregistered)
238316 in reply to 237880
Smash King:
Anonymous Cowherd:
dubbreak:
C++ is a proper superset of C.


Incorrect. There are all kinds of things that are legal in C that are not legal in C++. void * conversions are the obvious example. C++'s compatibility with C is more or less limited to making sure you can use C headers and libraries in programs without any difficulty; running non-trivial C code through a compiler as C++ will generally not work.
I disagree. I have never used or studied C++, but I often see C++ WTFs here and can fully understand them. It would take me just a few hours to grasp the differences, receive the official title of CPP programmer and start on the new project.
I think a nice analogy is playing acoustic guitar and electric guitar. You can play almost anything you do in one with the other, but if you need to use vibrato or harmonics or pull the distortion lever on an acoustic guitar you're stuck.


Just mic the acoustic guitar and voila! Run it through some pedals and the effects loop of your half stack and you can play some metal!

I think career fairs are different. You go in, talk to people and give them your resume. Sometimes you just talk to a person who is in management and might not have much CS background. That person then determines if your personality is compatible with the company. Sucks if you only have knowledge of CS and your strengths would be talking shop.

I also asked an interviewer once what they look for in a prospective employee. They told me that the way they present themselves and any leadership qualities that they have were a major factor in their consideration process. I guess I could see why a well presented resume could potentially reflect how a person presents themselves. However, its unfortunate that sometimes less qualified applicants will get consideration just because of this. I think the morale of the story is no matter how ridiculous it seems, play the game the best you can, because there is really no disadvantage to having a great looking resume.

That being said, I didn't get the internship. So WTF do I know.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-09 13:23 • by Jay (unregistered)
Yes, in real life, companies routinely use irrelevant criteria when hiring people for a job. Whether it's using pretty colored paper for your resume or having the right haircut or whatever. My philosophy is that if I need to get a job right now -- like once in my life I got fired and needed something to pay the mortgage as soon as possible -- then I'll play the game and do all sorts of silly things to get in the door. But most of the time when I've been looking for a job, I already had a job that paid the bills but that I simply decided I didn't like for whatever reason. In that case, the goal isn't to get any job, but to get a job that will be a pleasant place to work. And if the company has a bunch of silly, irrelevant rules for hiring people, then they probably have a bunch of silly, irrelevant rules to be followed when you're working there, and that's probably not where I want to go. So I don't worry about criteria I consider irrelevant, and if they pass me up because of that, than I probably wouldn't have wanted to work there anyway.

That said, I find I have an irrational desire to be liked and respected and all that, so when I get to an interview I tend to break my own rule, and when they bring up silly criteria, I find myself trying to meet it or sound like I meet it.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-09 14:36 • by FIA (unregistered)
238334 in reply to 237907
Bill:
No word of a lie: I once got interviewed because I had a cartoon pig on my application letter. As they told me later: "We couldn't find anybody and then I said, "Why don't we call that guy with the pig on his resume?"... and the rest is history...


Oh.... so THAT explains DOS, and Windows, and VB, and IE.

Wish you'd stuck to law dude. :((

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-09 15:21 • by Kef Schecter (unregistered)
238338 in reply to 238316
Alehx:
Just mic the acoustic guitar and voila! Run it through some pedals and the effects loop of your half stack and you can play some metal!


I think that's a very good analogy for what a C programmer who's just learning C++ is likely to produce. :)

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-09 15:48 • by FIA (unregistered)
Neeneko:
Some stuff about C and C++

Steve:
Some more stuff about C and C++


Cheers guys, the nitpicking over minutia of some of the more obscure aspects of computing in the comments is getting less and less common these days, so it's nice to read a few pages of comments that leave me realising I don't know quite as much about a particular subject as I thought I did; whilst also learning a fair bit.

Proper computery TDWTF comments FTW!!

:)

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-09 20:42 • by curtmack (unregistered)
238361 in reply to 238179
Buffled:
Anonymous Cowherd:
dubbreak:
C++ is a proper superset of C.


Incorrect. There are all kinds of things that are legal in C that are not legal in C++. void * conversions are the obvious example. C++'s compatibility with C is more or less limited to making sure you can use C headers and libraries in programs without any difficulty; running non-trivial C code through a compiler as C++ will generally not work.

C++ adds to C, thus making it a superset. In some cases, it adds restrictions. This does not make it any less a superset C.



Look up "superset." I don't think it means what you think it means.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-09 23:58 • by Neeneko (unregistered)
238371 in reply to 238338
Kef Schecter:

I think that's a very good analogy for what a C programmer who's just learning C++ is likely to produce. :)


And vice versa.

I think C++ programmers just sorta assume that the C code they are producing is 'good' because they understand what they are typing.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-10 00:03 • by Neeneko (unregistered)
238372 in reply to 238340
FIA:

Cheers guys, the nitpicking over minutia of some of the more obscure aspects of computing in the comments is getting less and less common these days, so it's nice to read a few pages of comments that leave me realising I don't know quite as much about a particular subject as I thought I did; whilst also learning a fair bit.

Proper computery TDWTF comments FTW!!

:)


Wow. I've never had anyone sarcastically comment about a technical discussion that since they don't care about no one possibly could. You must be the true alpha geek of all things technical and your obvious wisdom has changed my life forever.

And of course, obscure details must never matter because no one possibly uses them. That's why all real programs use 4th and 5th generation languages.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-10 11:01 • by Rob (unregistered)
238409 in reply to 237808
Then I'll say it to DanM, too. Get with the program. C is used far more than C# or any other language on your list except Java.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-12 04:31 • by FIA (unregistered)
238499 in reply to 238372
Neeneko:
FIA:

Snip me.


Wow. I've never had anyone sarcastically comment about a technical discussion that since they don't care about no one possibly could. You must be the true alpha geek of all things technical and your obvious wisdom has changed my life forever.


??

I can assure you, that wasn't ment at all sarcastically, I apologise if it came across that way.

It was actually written after spending about 2 hours reading the comments fully. (and prompted a weekend of brushing up on my C++). I take my job quite seriously, and consider that constantly learning and improving my skills are a big part of that.

I'm sorry if the internet has jaded you to the point that everyone is bitter and sarcastic, but the comment was heartfelt and certanly not ment that way.

Neeneko:

And of course, obscure details must never matter because no one possibly uses them. That's why all real programs use 4th and 5th generation languages.


No, obscure details are important, they stop you falling into silly traps. (Mind you, if you worked with some of the people I do even simple details are unimportant aparently.)

Again, sorry if I offended, but I genuinely got a lot from yours and Steve's discussion.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-12 10:42 • by AAAAHHHHH! (unregistered)
238566 in reply to 237854
blah:
No grammar for you!

10/10 for you sir! :D

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-12 15:34 • by Neeneko (unregistered)
238643 in reply to 238499
FIA:

Again, sorry if I offended, but I genuinely got a lot from yours and Steve's discussion.


My apologies for misunderstanding then ^_^

Sometimes telling sarcasm from honesty can be tricky without hearing someone's voice. I have encounter the attitude that I thought I was responding to before I jumped to a conclusion.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-13 03:18 • by Some european developer (unregistered)
"Just look at it," she responded, "it's everything, all around. For example, you used dots for your bullet points and he has these nice arrows."


When I tell people I'm a contractor for an European institution, they ask me if I'm applying for direct employment. In their mind, it means large amounts of money, no taxes and a guaranteed job whatever happens. To me, it means spending 50% of my time filling a report about why I wrote "standardize" instead of "standardise" or having to explain why we shouldn't develop new projects in pure C on mainframes.

After this comment from CIA, some will have changed their resume to get them hired and sold their soul to government administrativia.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-13 18:00 • by Krem (unregistered)
238849 in reply to 237808
Glue or flypaper ftw.. but I'd recommend shaving them first, or just sending a hairless..

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-01-22 00:55 • by Steven (unregistered)
How many people replaced the bullets on their resume with arrows after reading this? :3

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-02-11 15:47 • by ICU (unregistered)
243486 in reply to 237826
Bjarne is that you??

http://www.research.att.com/~bs/bs_faq.html#C-is-subset

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-02-11 15:57 • by ICU (unregistered)
243487 in reply to 237839
DWalker:
ObiWayneKenobi:
Incompetence at it's best.



Sorry to correct your "incompetence" sentence, but "it's" should be "its". I won't say that you're incompetent, though...


Actually the apostrophe is correct. The possessive form would apply because "best" would be an attribute possessed by this particular example of incompetence.

for review: http://www.meredith.edu/grammar/plural.htm

Re: Thank you, Javascript

2009-03-02 01:20 • by huojia (unregistered)
  
货架racking.   仓储货架
南京货架设备要产品包括:重型货架
,阁楼货架,超市Shelf,重量型货架,横梁式货架,驶入式货架... 仓储笼
货架的形式与材料 · 立体仓库 · 货架厂
物流规划设计的步骤与程序(货架的设计... 中国物流行业呈现三足鼎立抢市场 · 亚洲第三方物流的现状和发展 ... 托盘
抽出式货架系列 · 重力式 货架/推入式货架钢托盘
移动式货架 · 阁楼式货架 · 悬臂式货架
系列 长件物料储存货架 货架公司

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2009-05-19 07:00 • by few (unregistered)


ドルチェ&ガッバーナ
DOLCE & GABBANA
ドルチェ&ガッバーナ バッグ


ドルチェ&ガッバーナ 財布


ドルチェ&ガッバーナ ネ

ックレス

ドルチェ&ガッバーナ 

サングラス

ドルチェ&ガッバーナ リング


ドルチェ&ガッバーナ 香水


ドルチェ&ガッバーナ シュー


ドルチェ&ガッバーナ アウタ


ドルチェ&ガッバーナ インナ


ドルチェ&ガッバーナ シャツ


ドルチェ&ガッバーナ ジーン


ドルチェ&ガッバーナ 時計


ドルチェ&ガッバーナ Tシ

ャツ


グッチ
gucci
グッチ バッグ
グッチ 財布
グッチ ネックレス
グッチ サングラス


グッチ リング
グッチ 香水
グッチ シューズ
グッチ アウター
グッチ シャツ
グッチ ジーンズ
グッチ 時計
グッチ Tシャツ
グッチ アウター
グッチ インナー


ディオール
Christian Dior
ディオール バッグ
ディオール 財布
ディオール ネックレス


ディオール サングラス


ディオール リング
ディオール 香水
ディオール シューズ
ディオール アウター
ディオール シャツ
ディオール ジーンズ
ディオール Tシャツ
ディオール 時計
ディオール インナー

ヴィトン
LOUIS VUITTON
ヴィトン バッグ
ヴィトン 財布
ヴィトン ネックレス


ヴィトン サングラス


ヴィトン リング
ヴィトン シューズ
ヴィトン アウター
ヴィトン シャツ
ヴィトン ジーンズ
ヴィトン Tシャツ
ヴィトン 時計

シャネル
CHANEL
シャネル バッグ
シャネル 財布
シャネル ネックレス


シャネル サングラス


シャネル リング
シャネル 香水
シャネル シューズ
シャネル アウター
シャネル シャツ
シャネル ジーンズ
シャネル Tシャツ
シャネル 時計
シャネル インナー


プラダ
prada
プラダ バッグ
プラダ 財布
プラダ ネックレス
プラダ サングラス


プラダ リング
プラダ 香水
プラダ シューズ
プラダ アウター
プラダ シャツ
プラダ ジーンズ
プラダ Tシャツ
プラダ 時計



フェラガモ
SALVATORE FERRAGAMO
フェラガモ バッグ
フェラガモ 財布
フェラガモ ネックレ


フェラガモ サング

ラス

フェラガモ リング
フェラガモ 香水


フェラガモ シューズ


フェラガモ アウター


フェラガモ シャツ


フェラガモ ジーンズ


フェラガモ Tシャツ


フェラガモ 時計


セリーヌ
CELINE
セリーヌ バッグ
セリーヌ 財布
セリーヌ ネックレス


セリーヌ サングラス



[URL=http://celine-lukus.com/item/category/perfume]セリーヌ 香水

セリーヌ シューズ
セリーヌ アウター
セリーヌ シャツ
セリーヌ ジーンズ
セリーヌ Tシャツ

ボッテガ
BOTTEGA VENETA
ボッテガ バッグ
ボッテガ 財布
ボッテガ ネックレス


ボッテガ サングラス


ボッテガ リング
ボッテガ 香水
ボッテガ シューズ
ボッテガ アウター
ボッテガ シャツ
ボッテガ ジーンズ
ボッテガ Tシャツ

コーチ
COACH
コーチ バッグ
コーチ 財布
コーチ ネックレス
コーチ サングラス


コーチ リング
コーチ 香水
コーチ シューズ
コーチ アウター
コーチ シャツ
コーチ ジーンズ
コーチ Tシャツ
コーチ 時計


ダンヒル
dunhill
ダンヒル バッグ
ダンヒル 財布
ダンヒル カフスボタン



[URL=http://dunhill-lukus.com/item/category/ring]ダンヒル リング

ダンヒル 香水
ダンヒル シューズ
ダンヒル アウター
ダンヒル シャツ
ダンヒル ジーンズ
ダンヒル Tシャツ
ダンヒル 時計

ロエベ
LOEWE
ロエベ バッグ
ロエベ 財布
ロエベ ネックレス
ロエベ サングラス


ロエベ キーホルダー
ロエベ 香水
ロエベ シューズ
ロエベ アウター
ロエベ シャツ
ロエベ ジーンズ
ロエベ Tシャツ

ディーゼル
DIESEL
ディーゼル バッグ
ディーゼル 財布
ディーゼル ネックレス


ディーゼル サングラ


ディーゼル リング
ディーゼル 香水
ディーゼル シューズ
ディーゼル アウター
ディーゼル シャツ
ディーゼル ジーンズ
ディーゼル Tシャツ


ディーゼル 時計
ディーゼル インナー

デリヘル 大阪
仙台 デリヘル
仙台 風俗
仙台 デリヘル
仙台 風俗
仙台 デリヘル
仙台 風俗
家族葬
滋賀 賃貸
葬儀 費用
滋賀県の賃貸
滋賀の賃貸
アダルト SEO
被リンク
茶道具 買取
絵画 買取
レザー
革小物
クレジットカード 現金化
現金化
ショッピング枠 現金化
クレジットカード 現金化
現金化
ショッピング枠 現金化
FX
FX 比較
FX 初心者
ダイエット
ダイエット食品
腕時計
ヘアアイロン
クレイツ
アイビル
アドスト
バッグ
ネイル
アクセンツ
脱毛 大阪
埋没 大阪
わきが 大阪
オーロラ 大阪クリニック
タウンサーチ
探偵 大阪
浮気調査 大阪
素行調査 大阪
別れさせ 大阪
吹田 美容室
エステ 尼崎
メナード 梅田
MM
MAJORITY&MINORITY
エムエム
メナード 梅田


キャッシング
大阪 賃貸
中古車 販売
ルームウェア
大阪 マンション
賃貸マンション 神戸
中古 ゴルフクラブ
クールビズ
フィットネスクラブ
大阪府 司法書士
クレジット 申し込み
ベビードール
矯正歯科 東京
ホワイトニング 東京
大阪 ラブホテル
リサイクルショップ
不動産
カードローン
投資 信託
下着
即日 キャッシング
銀行
神戸市 中央区 税理士
FX
消費者金融
ローン
引越し
生命保険
ジェルネイル
人材派遣
ネット証券
アフィリエイト
格安航空券
ウィークリーマンション
レンタカー
SEO
オフィス家具
合宿免許
ペット用品
高速バス
デリヘル
キャバクラ
派遣
コラーゲン
化粧品
インテリア
ウェディング
結婚相談
投資物件
留学
貸事務所 大阪
経営コンサルティング
工芸品
高級品
自動車保険
ホテヘル
レストランウェディング
バイク買取
運転免許
ベビーカー
外反母趾
圧力鍋
腕時計
フェラガモ
デリヘル
キャバクラ
セレブ
プラセンタ
カルシウム
青汁
ブルーベリー
家具
脱毛クリーム
除毛クリーム
コスト削減 大阪
弁護士 大阪
車買取 大阪
バイク買取 大阪
エステ 大阪
リフォーム 大阪
大阪 歯科
派遣 大阪
アルバイト 大阪
転職 大阪
大阪 住宅
大阪 専門学校
グルメ 大阪
ホテル 大阪
一戸建て 大阪
大阪 宿泊
大阪 マンション
デリヘル 大阪
印刷 大阪
不動産 大阪
賃貸 大阪
ブライダル 大阪
リサイクル
アダルト SEO
賃貸
SEO 大阪
イベント コンパニオン 大阪
転職 大阪
大阪 ラブホ
ペット ショップ 大阪
豆腐
京都 不動産
運転免許 合宿
ヘアアイロン
ダイエット
ダイエット
デリヘル
キャバクラ
シャンパン
老人ホーム
精力剤
大阪 ラブホテル
ブランド品 買取
ワイン
京都 不動産
ペット
リサイクルショップ
歯科求人
結婚式場
バイク便
動物病院
美容整形外科
エルメス
ヘアアイロン
クレイツ
シャンプー
アイビル
ジェルネイル
育毛剤
ドライヤー
アゲハ嬢
ダイエットサプリ
エステ 大阪 フェイシャル
エステ 大阪 求人
エステ 大阪 メンズ
リフォーム 大阪 キッチン
リフォーム 大阪 マンション
リフォーム 大阪 外壁
大阪 歯医者 ランキング
大阪 歯医者 料金
大阪 歯医者 矯正
派遣 大阪 求人
派遣 大阪 短期
派遣 大阪 ランキング
アルバイト 大阪 検索
アルバイト 大阪 短期
アルバイト 大阪 口コミ
転職 大阪 求人
転職 大阪 ランキング
転職 大阪 女性
大阪 住宅 検索
大阪 住宅 ローン
大阪 住宅 中古
専門学校 大阪 美容
専門学校 大阪 看護
専門学校 大阪 調理
大阪 グルメ カフェ
大阪 グルメ お好み焼き
大阪 グルメ たこ焼き
ホテル 大阪 シティホテル
ホテル 大阪 ビジネスホテル
ホテル 大阪 モーテル
大阪 一戸建て 検索
大阪 一戸建て 口コミ
大阪 一戸建て ランキング
大阪 宿泊 格安
大阪 宿泊 高級
大阪 宿泊 口コミ
大阪 マンション 新築
大阪 マンション 中古
大阪 マンション 賃貸
大阪 デリヘル 人妻
大阪 デリヘル OL
大阪 デリヘル 3P
印刷 大阪 チラシ
印刷 大阪 名刺
印刷 大阪 格安
大阪 不動産 検索
大阪 不動産 分譲
大阪 不動産 比較

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2010-03-28 04:17 • by BlackwaterMerk
"Just look at it," she responded, "it's everything, all around. For example, you used dots for your bullet points and he has these nice arrows."

I never ended up getting a call about a position at the CIA.


^^^
||| Was this a real story? I think I just lost a little faith in humanity.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2010-09-04 04:34 • by dgghua (unregistered)
Thank You for the post. I love to read interesting post that has knowledge to impart. I hope to read more articles from you and in return I will post also my articles in the forum so that others can benefit from it. Keep up the good work!Rosetta stone learning software worthy of trust,rosetta stone english the effect is very obvious, guarantee our product, progress quickly!

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2010-10-09 06:01 • by samantha cruise (unregistered)
I agree with post analysis
<a href='http://www.riseuniversity.com/schools-majors/computer-science/'>Computer Science school</a> | <a href='http://www.riseuniversity.com/'>Online degree</a>

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2011-07-12 01:03 • by Prism (unregistered)
353074 in reply to 237859
Steve:
Argh! I hate people who keep claiming that because C++ is not a proper subset of C that therefore they are completely different languages.

Firstly, are we talking about K&R C, ANSI C, or C99(doubtful)?
What code would you write in ANSI C that you would actually want to write that wouldn't compile in C++?

Yes you can write crap C code that a C++ compiler won't compile, but why would you want to?

For all intensive porpoises C++ is a superset of C.


And I'll betcha those dolphins have stunning resumes too!

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2011-07-12 01:21 • by Prism (unregistered)
353075 in reply to 237880
Smash King:
Anonymous Cowherd:
dubbreak:
C++ is a proper superset of C.


Incorrect. There are all kinds of things that are legal in C that are not legal in C++. void * conversions are the obvious example. C++'s compatibility with C is more or less limited to making sure you can use C headers and libraries in programs without any difficulty; running non-trivial C code through a compiler as C++ will generally not work.
I disagree. I have never used or studied C++, but I often see C++ WTFs here and can fully understand them. It would take me just a few hours to grasp the differences, receive the official title of CPP programmer and start on the new project.
I think a nice analogy is playing acoustic guitar and electric guitar. You can play almost anything you do in one with the other, but if you need to use vibrato or harmonics or pull the distortion lever on an acoustic guitar you're stuck.


You would be correct, *somewhat*, only if you had a stash of extensive OOP in your back pocket that you acquired elsewhere.

Your musical analogy needs to be changed into: Being a one man band, then being a real orchestra-level conductor/composer.

Re: It's All About C, The CIA Interview, & Not People Like You

2011-07-12 01:35 • by Prism (unregistered)
353078 in reply to 237890
Steve:
Neeneko:
Steve:

I would say that a good C++ programmer can write good C code straight away. A good C programmer can pick up C++ quickly but would need to learn the ++ part of the language/std library.


I have to disagree. I've found that good C++ programmers THINK they are writing good C code, but often they don't. I used to work in a mixed C and C++ environment and sometimes got headaches when the C++ programmers tried to 'help' on sections of C code. They were bright programmers who really know thier C++ stuff but they just didn't think of the types of problems you encounter in C or how to deal with them. It got esp messy when try tried resource management, overloading, or polymorphisms.. things that are done magically for you in C++ but you have to do them manually in C.

Now granted with had similiar problems when it came to the pure C programmers trying to help in C++ code.... usually they were unaware of all the things the language helps you with and thus kept doing things the "C" way... or they discovered a useful feature and used it to death rather then were it was appropriate.


They can't be very good C++ programmers if they can't write decent C code. Seriously, I'd like to see some pure C code that a C++ programmer wouldn't understand.


As someone who learned C++ first, I can tell you that someone like me might understand a select piece of C, but only after time. We don't recognize the idioms used, which results in a confidence hit.

If C and C++ programmers are both 'mechanics', the C people are more 'machinists'.

« PrevPage 1 | Page 2 | Page 3 | Page 4 | Page 5Next »

Add Comment