Comment On Lord of the Blogs

It was about frickin’ time -- Rob had finally landed himself a promotion. Technically, it was more an “absorption of responsibilities” than anything else, but the important thing was that his new role as “Global Editor” offered an excellent ROR (Return On Résumé). Really, how hard could it be to administer a handful of internal users writing a handful of blogs? [expand full text]
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Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 15:37 • by Yaos
The person that wrote this blog would probably write a text editor like this.

ARE YOU TRYING TO HIT THE UPPERCASE A BUTTON?
yes|no

ARE YOU TRYING TO THIS THE UPPERCASE B BUTTON?
yes|no

Interrupts? What are those?

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 15:46 • by Suburban Decay (unregistered)
Holy. Jesus.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 15:48 • by a (unregistered)
145074 in reply to 145067
Yaos:
The person that wrote this blog would probably write a text editor like this.

ARE YOU TRYING TO HIT THE UPPERCASE A BUTTON?
yes|no

ARE YOU TRYING TO THIS THE UPPERCASE B BUTTON?
yes|no

Interrupts? What are those?


MS wrote an entire OS feature that way It's called Windows Vista UAC

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 15:48 • by schwomp
hehe, I'd also stop showing up at work..

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 15:53 • by James (unregistered)
This reads like a joke, but I have the sick feeling in the pit of my stomach that it isn't.

...

The most infuriating part is that there are dozens if not hundreds of prominent blog "engines"/backends that people actually thought through and designed well, many of which are even free (in both senses of the word). Why anyone would continue to use this hodgepodge of horseshit is so far beyond me it gives me a headache just to think about it.

I know CAPTCHA posting is frowned upon, but this is too good: I got "vern", and the system does sound like something Ernest P. Worrell might have designed.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 15:54 • by Douglas F Shearer (unregistered)
Someone install Wordpress, quick!

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 15:56 • by Ben4jammin (unregistered)
While I would like to send condolences to Rob on the death of his sanity, I suddenly feel much better about my job.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 15:58 • by KattMan
Rob should not complain. He actually had good documentation that apparently was kept up to date when new information was received. If only all software was this well documented.

And that's the only good thing I can say about this.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 15:58 • by MS Ninja (unregistered)
Needs more MS Access.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 16:04 • by Licky Lindsay
145082 in reply to 145080
Needs more wooden table.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 16:04 • by "Rob" (unregistered)
145083 in reply to 145076
James:
This reads like a joke, but I have the sick feeling in the pit of my stomach that it isn't.

...

The most infuriating part is that there are dozens if not hundreds of prominent blog "engines"/backends that people actually thought through and designed well, many of which are even free (in both senses of the word). Why anyone would continue to use this hodgepodge of horseshit is so far beyond me it gives me a headache just to think about it.

I know CAPTCHA posting is frowned upon, but this is too good: I got "vern", and the system does sound like something Ernest P. Worrell might have designed.


Rob here,

It's not a joke, and it wasn't free.

However, it's a corporate thing, a decision that may have been good several years ago but isn't now, and changing it would involve too much paperwork.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 16:05 • by Atrophy
145084 in reply to 145080
MS Ninja:
Needs more MS Access.


And some XML.

And possibly a wooden table.

No quack.

That about cover it?

</sarcasm>

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 16:09 • by Ben4jammin (unregistered)
145085 in reply to 145083
However, it's a corporate thing, a decision that may have been good several years ago but isn't now, and changing it would involve too much paperwork.


Ah yes...I'm sure we've all been there before. Paperwork in triplicate requiring God's signature I'm sure.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 16:10 • by xtremezone
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Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 16:19 • by Josh (unregistered)
At least it *was* documented by somebody who had to actually maintain it.

I don't know which would be worse:
- Showing up and finding no documentation, or...
- Showing up and only finding the manual, which only describes how everything is *supposed* to work.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 16:19 • by Corporate Cog (unregistered)
Assuming the users don't know these secrets, they must be totally baffled by the formatting changes that occur once they publish to the mysterious machine. "Wow, that's some crazy software that takes a picture of my table and inserts it back into the post".

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 16:22 • by Mike (unregistered)
That is one mother of a WTF. It pains me to think about it, especially since we had a pretty WTF content management system at my last place of work. This one takes the cake though.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 16:24 • by ben_
I like how he depends on an obvious security vulnerability to get his job done.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 16:25 • by Anon (unregistered)
145092 in reply to 145074
a:
Yaos:
The person that wrote this blog would probably write a text editor like this.

ARE YOU TRYING TO HIT THE UPPERCASE A BUTTON?
yes|no

ARE YOU TRYING TO THIS THE UPPERCASE B BUTTON?
yes|no

Interrupts? What are those?


MS wrote an entire OS feature that way It's called Windows Vista UAC

This is only tangentially related, but by far my favorite Vista UAC-ism is the warnings that a UAC prompt is about to be generated.

I wanted to delete the program directory for a program I had uninstalled that hadn't actually bothered to remove any of its data. So I browse to Program Files, and delete the folder. This causes the following:

1. Are you sure you want to delete this folder? [Yes]
2. Windows will prompt you to confirm this deletion. Do you want to continue? [Continue]
3. Cancel or allow? [Allow]

I can't help but think that similar thinking to that "you're about to be asked to allow this action you've already OKed once" created the blog software generated.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 16:30 • by ImaSwitch (unregistered)
145095 in reply to 145091
When a user is ready to publish his blog post, she simply goes to “set post status” and selects “published” from the drop down list.


The real WTF is the gender change of the user in question in the instructions.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 16:35 • by Ben4jammin (unregistered)
145097 in reply to 145091
ben_:
I like how he depends on an obvious security vulnerability to get his job done.


That's an added-on feature. It costs extra.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 16:40 • by Jon (unregistered)
145098 in reply to 145095
ImaSwitch:
When a user is ready to publish his blog post, she simply goes to “set post status” and selects “published” from the drop down list.


The real WTF is the gender change of the user in question in the instructions.


Well done sir. Nice catch.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 16:50 • by Grumpy (unregistered)
Was the company name in the last paragraph supposed to be anonymized?

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 16:58 • by vt_mruhlin
145102 in reply to 145095
ImaSwitch:
When a user is ready to publish his blog post, she simply goes to “set post status” and selects “published” from the drop down list.


The real WTF is the gender change of the user in question in the instructions.


Maybe there's some arbitrary third person who comes by with the sole function of selecting "published".

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 16:59 • by Frenchier than thou (unregistered)
145103 in reply to 145100
Grumpy:
Was the company name in the last paragraph supposed to be anonymized?


I don't think so, since Akamai is one of the biggest mirror-server farms on the 'net.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 17:06 • by OtherMichael (unregistered)
This is because the CSS on the live site is different from the CSS on the blog server, so everything will look different.



Er.... synch up the CSS files?

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 17:10 • by Kev (unregistered)
145107 in reply to 145095
ImaSwitch:
When a user is ready to publish his blog post, she simply goes to “set post status” and selects “published” from the drop down list.


The real WTF is the gender change of the user in question in the instructions.


I see that type of writing all the time - better than the "he/she"; "his/her"; "s/he"; "(s)he" alternatives that get used.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 17:27 • by PSWorx
145109 in reply to 145105
OtherMichael:
This is because the CSS on the live site is different from the CSS on the blog server, so everything will look different.



Er.... synch up the CSS files?


Nah... too much paperwork...

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 17:35 • by danfiru
145110 in reply to 145082
Licky Lindsay:
Needs more wooden table.


AHHAHAHAHA.... dying... laughing...

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 17:38 • by chevy chase (unregistered)
145111 in reply to 145080
MS Ninja:
Needs more MS Access.


Needs more cow bell

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 17:39 • by Anon (unregistered)
145112 in reply to 145082
Licky Lindsay:
Needs more wooden table.

No, you see, they've already streamlined past that stage. It used to be that HTML tables had to be printed out, photographed and reinserted into the blog entries, but now they've got this cutting-edge enterprise-class feature called "Print Screen" that lets them make an image of it without actually printing it!

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 17:39 • by Arancaytar
Seeahmess? What is this see-a-mess?

But seriously, it sounds like all they needed was something like this.

That and a course in website design, of course, and perhaps some basics to drill in the idea that computers are meant to make work /easier/, not harder.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 18:47 • by Xepol
145120 in reply to 145083
"Rob":

However, it's a corporate thing, a decision that may have been good several years ago but isn't now, and changing it would involve too much paperwork.


That's why you don't ask, you just do. Push a new improved system into place and document how to use it as part of a "service maintenance release to address critical security issues".

Problem solved and no one asks questions - anyone who does you simply point to the bit about critical security issues, which from the way this system appears to be designed would be honest. After all, you have a legal requirement to protect the company from security vulernabilities (and the truth about how you fixed them if being honest prevents it).

Then, pretend everything continues to work the old way and sit back and enjoy all the new free time.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 19:14 • by Theo (unregistered)
145122 in reply to 145120
original post:
...Something probably got “lost” along the way...


Yeah, the editor's patience, at that point.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 19:20 • by weee (unregistered)
145124 in reply to 145120
Xepol:
"Rob":

However, it's a corporate thing, a decision that may have been good several years ago but isn't now, and changing it would involve too much paperwork.


That's why you don't ask, you just do. Push a new improved system into place and document how to use it as part of a "service maintenance release to address critical security issues".

Problem solved and no one asks questions - anyone who does you simply point to the bit about critical security issues, which from the way this system appears to be designed would be honest. After all, you have a legal requirement to protect the company from security vulernabilities (and the truth about how you fixed them if being honest prevents it).

Then, pretend everything continues to work the old way and sit back and enjoy all the new free time.


Bravo! Thats what I would do! :D overnight preferably.

captcha: slashbot - not

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 19:23 • by HotMom (unregistered)
Funny MS Ninja and Vista comment. This poor guy obviously cracked after years of dealing with imbeciles and resorted to this.
Ha Ha...dreadlocks captcha!

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 19:28 • by AdT (unregistered)
Even as some will complain about the missing code... Nice story. I had a good laugh already when reading about the ROR. The Accounts & Passwords stuff was a nice introductory triple-WTF, although it's stuff we readers have seen all too often (and some of these things actually remind me of my workplace sigh).

When reading "Publishing Articles", I had a serious headdesk moment and felt dizzy for a while. Even if this metaphor is overused around here: This must be the blog system from Hell. And the thought of being the "Global Editor" for this... thing... makes me wonder whether being tormented with a pitchfork for all eternity is really that bad. "Troubleshooting" then provided a nice lead-out with auxiliary WTFs. Aristotle would have been proud.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 19:29 • by Carnildo
145129 in reply to 145107
Kev:
ImaSwitch:
When a user is ready to publish his blog post, she simply goes to “set post status” and selects “published” from the drop down list.


The real WTF is the gender change of the user in question in the instructions.


I see that type of writing all the time - better than the "he/she"; "his/her"; "s/he"; "(s)he" alternatives that get used.


When it comes to gender-unspecific pronouns, I like "s/h/it".

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 19:37 • by poopdeville
145130 in reply to 145084
Atrophy:
MS Ninja:
Needs more MS Access.


And some XML.

And possibly a wooden table.

No quack.

That about cover it?

</sarcasm>


Brillant!

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 20:20 • by sxeraverx
145132 in reply to 145095
ImaSwitch:
When a user is ready to publish his blog post, she simply goes to “set post status” and selects “published” from the drop down list.


The real WTF is the gender change of the user in question in the instructions.


That's not a WTF: It's a feature!

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 20:56 • by "Rob" (unregistered)
145134 in reply to 145120
Xepol:
"Rob":

However, it's a corporate thing, a decision that may have been good several years ago but isn't now, and changing it would involve too much paperwork.


That's why you don't ask, you just do. Push a new improved system into place and document how to use it as part of a "service maintenance release to address critical security issues".

Problem solved and no one asks questions - anyone who does you simply point to the bit about critical security issues, which from the way this system appears to be designed would be honest. After all, you have a legal requirement to protect the company from security vulernabilities (and the truth about how you fixed them if being honest prevents it).

Then, pretend everything continues to work the old way and sit back and enjoy all the new free time.

Haha, if only it were that easy. The server I work directly on is in my office and is managed by a guy I barely know. He looks after the software and stuff. The server it gets pushed to is in another country, managed by somebody I only know by name. And it does a lot of different things. The server after that is outside both my country and company, and I wouldn't even know who to talk to.

Long story short, it's a long chain that's completely out of my, and everybody else's hands. :(

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 21:20 • by hectore (unregistered)
145137 in reply to 145134
That's what I'd call a reaaaaaaaally "Distributed System" and a company that likes to enable Collaboration as much as possible...

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 21:42 • by keng (unregistered)
"Rob"?....sure you mean "Alex" 80)

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-11 23:07 • by Licky Lindsay
145147 in reply to 145134
"Rob":

Haha, if only it were that easy. The server I work directly on is in my office and is managed by a guy I barely know. He looks after the software and stuff. The server it gets pushed to is in another country, managed by somebody I only know by name. And it does a lot of different things. The server after that is outside both my country and company, and I wouldn't even know who to talk to.


Shit. Steal an old PC from out in the hall somewhere, install a web server and some open source blogging software, tell everybody to start using that instead.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-12 00:55 • by simon (unregistered)
145151 in reply to 145107
Kev:
ImaSwitch:
The real WTF is the gender change of the user in question in the instructions.


I see that type of writing all the time - better than the "he/she"; "his/her"; "s/he"; "(s)he" alternatives that get used.


I suspect this may be a (overly) politically correct americanism? I much prefer "they".

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-12 01:12 • by SamP
Proposal of new gender-neutral pronouns:

hos = he or she
hoh = him or her
hohs = his or hers

Would save so much time writing!

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-12 01:40 • by amandahugginkiss
145155 in reply to 145152
SamP:
Proposal of new gender-neutral pronouns:

hos = he or she
hoh = him or her
hohs = his or hers

Would save so much time writing!


Bah. You have to train everyone what these weird new (and ugly) words are. Far easier to just loosen up on they/their to allow it as a gender-neutral singular as well as a plural.

'hohs' is horseshit. Not to mention that 'hos' already has far more mindshare as the derogatory ebonics word for prostitutes (or women in general, depending on your speaker).

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-12 02:46 • by bob (unregistered)
145157 in reply to 145120
Xepol:

...pretend everything continues to work the old way and sit back and enjoy all the new free time.


I know someone who is doing this at this very moment. Part of his job, a big part, is to collate a bunch of data and create some nice graphs for the weekly reports that get done. I helped him with a script to deal with the tedious data collection and graph generation. Now he just runs the script and adds some comments to the report about the weekly data and then surfs the net for 2 hours.
Everyone knows he has used scripts to speed up his work but no one has realised a 4 hour job now takes about 10 minutes.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-12 03:58 • by foxyshadis
145159 in reply to 145155
amandahugginkiss:
SamP:
Proposal of new gender-neutral pronouns:

hos = he or she
hoh = him or her
hohs = his or hers

Would save so much time writing!


Bah. You have to train everyone what these weird new (and ugly) words are. Far easier to just loosen up on they/their to allow it as a gender-neutral singular as well as a plural.

'hohs' is horseshit. Not to mention that 'hos' already has far more mindshare as the derogatory ebonics word for prostitutes (or women in general, depending on your speaker).

Whoosh.

The real wtf was that this entry was an awesome wtf. I've seen it happen! Propped so hard.

Re: Lord of the Blogs

2007-07-12 04:05 • by c (unregistered)
I would issue all the users with a digital camera, they could then write thier blogs in Word (or whatever), take a picture of the screen and then post that.

Would save a lot of hassle.
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