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Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 06:06 • by PlasticineGuy (unregistered)
TRWTF: "ready to recount the tail of the dreaded F5 virus,"

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 06:15 • by Sebastian Buchannon (unregistered)
387015 in reply to 387014
So what? it has a long tail. What are you some kind of virii noob?

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 06:20 • by mscha (unregistered)
TRWTF is Blair closing the browser window without further thought, when the problem is HTTP requests coming from that computer...

– Michael

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 06:52 • by Stev (unregistered)
387018 in reply to 387015
Sebastian Buchannon:
So what? it has a long tail. What are you some kind of virii noob?


I don't know if you're deliberately using that word, given the context, but I just want to point out that "virii" is not a real word and never has been. Anyone that uses "Virii" to mean the plural of "Virus" is, frankly, an idiot trying to sound smarter than they really are. The plural of "Virus" is simply "Viruses".
Once again, if you were using the word in an ironic sense, that is fine, but if not - by all means go look it up in a dictionary: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/virii?s=t

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 07:01 • by QJo
387019 in reply to 387018
Stev:
Sebastian Buchannon:
So what? it has a long tail. What are you some kind of virii noob?


I don't know if you're deliberately using that word, given the context, but I just want to point out that "virii" is not a real word and never has been. Anyone that uses "Virii" to mean the plural of "Virus" is, frankly, an idiot trying to sound smarter than they really are. The plural of "Virus" is simply "Viruses".
Once again, if you were using the word in an ironic sense, that is fine, but if not - by all means go look it up in a dictionary: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/virii?s=t

+1

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 07:01 • by kktkkr (unregistered)
I loved that comment about nearly fully depressed F5!

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 07:06 • by freibooter (unregistered)
387022 in reply to 387020
kktkkr:
I loved that comment about nearly fully depressed F5!

Depression is no laughing matter! More and more function keys suffer from depression every year, suffering enormously under the pressure and hoping that they could just let go.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 07:25 • by Cherry Treats (unregistered)
387024 in reply to 387014
Make sure to click $WORD fluke

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 07:25 • by Meep (unregistered)
387025 in reply to 387018
Stev:
Sebastian Buchannon:
So what? it has a long tail. What are you some kind of virii noob?


I don't know if you're deliberately using that word, given the context, but I just want to point out that "virii" is not a real word and never has been. Anyone that uses "Virii" to mean the plural of "Virus" is, frankly, an idiot trying to sound smarter than they really are. The plural of "Virus" is simply "Viruses".
Once again, if you were using the word in an ironic sense, that is fine, but if not - by all means go look it up in a dictionary: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/virii?s=t


These are the same people who think the plural of box is boxen.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 07:33 • by Ducky (unregistered)
I had the same thing happen with me once...
A LMS system we use had blocked our IP address because they were getting "attacked" by someone on our network.

Turns out it was just an F5 key on one machine on a 20mbit connection -_-

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 07:40 • by PaulR (unregistered)
I had the exact same thing happen to me, albeit with an electromechanical machine:

A customer called and explained that when he closed a safety-pressure-release gate (it was normally closed), the machine would start actuating, all by itself. "Hmmm, when the other technician comes back in the next few minutes, I'll be able to head out to see you. In the meantime, I'll look at the schematics to see if I can see anything that can cause that."

I hung up, and turned to the schematics. After a few minutes, I figured that a defective microswitch in the footswitch could cause the customer's problem. Just as my hand was reaching for the phone so I could call the customer and ask him to disconnect the foot switch, a "Paul, line one!" came over the PA system...

It was the customer: "I'm so embarassed. We just realized that someone had placed a box right on the footswitch....."

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 07:50 • by $$ERR:get_name_fail (unregistered)
and they swooped over the situation like B1 bombers over Eastern Europe.

Don't want to nitpick*, but I think you mean a B2 bomber. There is no such thing as a B1 bomber.


*who am I kidding? Sure I want to! Nitpicking is the reason I am reading this website!

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 07:50 • by Cbuttius
so someone had a key stuck. boring WTF. next!

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 07:53 • by Ru (unregistered)
387030 in reply to 387028
$$ERR:get_name_fail:
Don't want to nitpick*, but I think you mean a B2 bomber. There is no such thing as a B1 bomber.


Rockwell B1 Lancer

(wikipedia might be spam, I suppose. thanks, akismet)

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 07:58 • by schmitter (unregistered)
Come on. Stories where a user/idiot/moron do something that anyone smarter than a tomato plant would NOT do, that in turn causes hours of work for an department/group/individual that they do not work for are always interesting.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 08:16 • by Poor Suffering Bastard (unregistered)
387032 in reply to 387028
$$ERR:get_name_fail:
and they swooped over the situation like B1 bombers over Eastern Europe.

Don't want to nitpick*, but I think you mean a B2 bomber. There is no such thing as a B1 bomber.


*who am I kidding? Sure I want to! Nitpicking is the reason I am reading this website!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockwell_B-1_Lancer

orly?

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 08:17 • by See that (unregistered)
Marketing manager left a book on the enter key of a unix terminal session so that the screen would costantly refresh so he could see the sales instantly, pity it put the POS system offline :(

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 08:18 • by Dessimus (unregistered)
I was unaware of the need for home-grow project-management software, I guess hydroponics has become serious business.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 08:29 • by Remy Porter
387035 in reply to 387028
The B2 bomber would be a bad choice for a Cold War metaphor. The first prototypes were only hitting the air in 1989, and didn't actually enter service until 1997. The B1-B, on the other hand, was featured in the film Real Genius.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 08:31 • by Andrew (unregistered)
387036 in reply to 387018
Stev:
Sebastian Buchannon:
So what? it has a long tail. What are you some kind of virii noob?


I don't know if you're deliberately using that word, given the context, but I just want to point out that "virii" is not a real word and never has been. Anyone that uses "Virii" to mean the plural of "Virus" is, frankly, an idiot trying to sound smarter than they really are. The plural of "Virus" is simply "Viruses".
Once again, if you were using the word in an ironic sense, that is fine, but if not - by all means go look it up in a dictionary: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/virii?s=t
In a rare display, English abides by rules with reproducible results.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 08:31 • by frits
Ha ha! Anybody who solders must be some kind of rube.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 08:55 • by Mike (unregistered)
So a web server getting 20 requests per second on a single URL on the valid web port is under attack?

What was it? an 80286 PC?

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 08:57 • by Tonka (unregistered)
387040 in reply to 387018
Stev:
Sebastian Buchannon:
So what? it has a long tail. What are you some kind of virii noob?


I don't know if you're deliberately using that word, given the context, but I just want to point out that "virii" is not a real word and never has been. Anyone that uses "Virii" to mean the plural of "Virus" is, frankly, an idiot trying to sound smarter than they really are. The plural of "Virus" is simply "Viruses".
Once again, if you were using the word in an ironic sense, that is fine, but if not - by all means go look it up in a dictionary: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/virii?s=t


Just in case you decide to find out more than you ever wanted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_form_of_words_ending_in_-us#Virus

TRWTF? Wikipedia-links being flagged as spam.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 09:11 • by Vilx- (unregistered)
We're gonna need a new Timmy!

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 09:21 • by foo (unregistered)
387042 in reply to 387016
mscha:
TRWTF is Blair closing the browser window without further thought, when the problem is HTTP requests coming from that computer...
Hey, still better than turning off the machine as a first step of troubleshooting.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 09:21 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
387043 in reply to 387022
freibooter:
kktkkr:
I loved that comment about nearly fully depressed F5!

Depression is no laughing matter! More and more function keys suffer from depression every year, suffering enormously under the pressure and hoping that they could just let go.


That's because nobody likes to be under the finger of THE MAN!

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 09:29 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
387044 in reply to 387039
Mike:
So a web server getting 20 requests per second on a single URL on the valid web port is under attack?

What was it? an 80286 PC?


Actually... on machines with modern specs (and I am not talking about 4x 8 hyperthreaded core processors with all solidstate drives...im talking about a more standard core I7 system or something)... pages with anything more than the most basic of server functionality... 118ms - 200ms response time is considered reasonably good. a 5 year old computer would likely be in the 350-450 range at best. That is roughly 5-10 requests/second for a newer system, 2-3 request/second for their own. Also... if the company is small enough that this is abnormal and is not hosting an external service (which I suspect it is not)... then I imagine traffic of this nature does appear to be at least an attempt at a DOS attack.

Re: Refresh Your Virii Scanner

2012-08-13 09:35 • by Cbuttius
No, virii has been commonly adopted as a plural form for virus in the computing context, although it is not used in the normal biological context of virus. It is rather strange that it is commonly spelt with a double 'i' as the normal Latin plural if there were one would simply be viri.

Virus is actually a Latin word originally but it is a collective noun and they don't have plurals.

Re: Refresh Your Virii Scanner

2012-08-13 09:45 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
387046 in reply to 387045
Cbuttius:
No, virii has been commonly adopted as a plural form for virus in the computing context, although it is not used in the normal biological context of virus. It is rather strange that it is commonly spelt with a double 'i' as the normal Latin plural if there were one would simply be viri.

Virus is actually a Latin word originally but it is a collective noun and they don't have plurals.


Watching programmers debate grammer is like watching monkeys debate mathematical proofs. It's just wierd. And really... WHO GIVES A SHIT!?

CAPTCHA: wisi - I been smoking too much, and feeling a bit wisi.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 09:55 • by OKJoker (unregistered)
387047 in reply to 387018
Whew. I'm glad he got your permission to use the word ironically.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 10:03 • by Cbuttius
I was shocked when playing Words With Friends that it rejected the word struct as not being a word...

Of course it's a word.

Now someone sometime decided to call a kind of program that gets onto your computer unintentionally with dire consequences a "virus". Then people commonly created a pluralised form for it. There is no reason why this plural has to be the same word as the one for a biological virus.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 10:16 • by ubersoldat
I believe that TRWTF is not the F5 key thing (that's just a little funny) but the reaction of the manager on the whole situation when a server with a service you don't care about is being "attacked".

I mean, if it's your production environment, the thing that pays the beans, then it's ok to burn some torches and pray to the gods.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 10:24 • by Bub (unregistered)
387050 in reply to 387018
Another fine member of the snooty Tribe of Dorkii

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 10:25 • by Bub (unregistered)
387051 in reply to 387018
Stev:

I don't know if you're deliberately using that word, given the context, but I just want to point out that "virii" is not a real word and never has been. Anyone that uses "Virii" to mean the plural of "Virus" is, frankly, an idiot trying to sound smarter than they really are. The plural of "Virus" is simply "Viruses".


Another member of the snooty Tribe of Dorkii

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 10:27 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
387052 in reply to 387049
ubersoldat:
I believe that TRWTF is not the F5 key thing (that's just a little funny) but the reaction of the manager on the whole situation when a server with a service you don't care about is being "attacked".

I mean, if it's your production environment, the thing that pays the beans, then it's ok to burn some torches and pray to the gods.


Like kicking a hornets' nest... yes. It reminds me of a few similar experiences of my own. Truthfully... I sort of forgot exactly where this story differed from my own memories of such situations. Ignorance, a good story and something suspect can breed all sorts of humuliation for people :p.

I remember one old lady who asked me if she needed to get a padlock. "For what" I asked her, as I was unaware of any habits that might necessitate one, she mainly stayed at home. She wanted to do it to protect her credit card numbers on her computer. The funny thing about it was... the only thing she used her computer for was to play solitare. She just thought that since the computer was hers, she had to go buy a padlock so it didn't try to steal her personal information.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 10:29 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
387053 in reply to 387051
Bub:
Stev:

I don't know if you're deliberately using that word, given the context, but I just want to point out that "virii" is not a real word and never has been. Anyone that uses "Virii" to mean the plural of "Virus" is, frankly, an idiot trying to sound smarter than they really are. The plural of "Virus" is simply "Viruses".


Another member of the snooty Tribe of Dorkii


Unflatulantly, this thread seems to have reverted to english class.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 10:31 • by Maltz (unregistered)
387054 in reply to 387032
Poor Suffering Bastard:
$$ERR:get_name_fail:
and they swooped over the situation like B1 bombers over Eastern Europe.

Don't want to nitpick*, but I think you mean a B2 bomber. There is no such thing as a B1 bomber.


*who am I kidding? Sure I want to! Nitpicking is the reason I am reading this website!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockwell_B-1_Lancer

orly?


I highly doubt that he was thinking of the B1 Lancer. In fact, I suspect he was thinking of the B-17, which actually HAS flown missions over Europe in large numbers, unlike either the B1 or the B2.

But frankly, the whole argument is pretty pedantic...

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 10:38 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
387055 in reply to 387054
Maltz:
Poor Suffering Bastard:
$$ERR:get_name_fail:
and they swooped over the situation like B1 bombers over Eastern Europe.

Don't want to nitpick*, but I think you mean a B2 bomber. There is no such thing as a B1 bomber.


*who am I kidding? Sure I want to! Nitpicking is the reason I am reading this website!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockwell_B-1_Lancer

orly?


I highly doubt that he was thinking of the B1 Lancer. In fact, I suspect he was thinking of the B-17, which actually HAS flown missions over Europe in large numbers, unlike either the B1 or the B2.

But frankly, the whole argument is pretty pedantic...


B-52 is far more popular, if we aren't thinking strictly WWII anyway. It is easily the most well known stratigic bombing craft... and has a cool nickname to boot (BUFF-Big Ugly Fat Fucker) - you can wikipedia that if you don't believe me.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 10:39 • by Cbuttius
In visual studio F5 starts a build. It doesn't "refresh" the content.

It is a big WTF though when F3 doesn't implement "Find next" and you have to do some horrible mouse activity every time instead.

It's also a WTF if you cannot type Alt-0189 to get the "half" character because something has decided that the Alt followed by the 0 should perform some menu action. Similarly Alt-0178 should give you the "squared" character.


Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 10:43 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
387058 in reply to 387056
Cbuttius:
In visual studio F5 starts a build. It doesn't "refresh" the content.


yes... and F13 downloads Victoria's Secret models into your bedroom.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 10:49 • by Ben Jammin (unregistered)
387059 in reply to 387028
$$ERR:get_name_fail:
and they swooped over the situation like B1 bombers over Eastern Europe.

Don't want to nitpick*, but I think you mean a B2 bomber. There is no such thing as a B1 bomber.


*who am I kidding? Sure I want to! Nitpicking is the reason I am reading this website!


Out of curiosity, why would anyone start counting bomber ids at 2?

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 10:50 • by Ben Jammin (unregistered)
387060 in reply to 387058
Some Jerk:
Cbuttius:
In visual studio F5 starts a build. It doesn't "refresh" the content.


yes... and F13 downloads Victoria's Secret models into your bedroom.


I need a better keyboard

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 10:52 • by just me (unregistered)
387062 in reply to 387025
Meep:
Stev:
Sebastian Buchannon:
So what? it has a long tail. What are you some kind of virii noob?


I don't know if you're deliberately using that word, given the context, but I just want to point out that "virii" is not a real word and never has been. Anyone that uses "Virii" to mean the plural of "Virus" is, frankly, an idiot trying to sound smarter than they really are. The plural of "Virus" is simply "Viruses".
Once again, if you were using the word in an ironic sense, that is fine, but if not - by all means go look it up in a dictionary: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/virii?s=t


These are the same people who think the plural of box is boxen.


Yeah, everybody knows it's spelt "boxxen".

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 10:57 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
387063 in reply to 387059
Ben Jammin:
Out of curiosity, why would anyone start counting bomber ids at 2?


It's like movies... only the sequels have numbers. After all... who knew that the number would suddenly become important? HMMM... wonder if there was a "B" that simply didn't work out? Was the B plane like a B movie??? Getting so little recognition as to fade into obscurity? Or was it like those old "Christmas classics" narrated by Barry Manalow that are only aired because parents don't want to have to worry that their children are watching something violent while they are busy ignoring them... and that nobody ever seems to know the name of?

CAPTCHA: vulputate - the process by which vultures enter a larval state to become attorneys

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 10:59 • by Cbuttius
387064 in reply to 387055
Some Jerk:
B-52 is far more popular, if we aren't thinking strictly WWII anyway. It is easily the most well known stratigic bombing craft... and has a cool nickname to boot (BUFF-Big Ugly Fat Fucker) - you can wikipedia that if you don't believe me.


it's not a WTF, it's WTF-lobster...

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 11:01 • by Zylon
387065 in reply to 387035
Remy Porter:
The B2 bomber would be a bad choice for a Cold War metaphor. The first prototypes were only hitting the air in 1989, and didn't actually enter service until 1997. The B1-B, on the other hand, was featured in the film Real Genius.

It's "B-1B", not "B1-B". And B-2, B-52, F-15, A-10, etc.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 11:16 • by Cbuttius
The F keys were put on the computer keyboards so that the alphabetic characters could retain their purpose of typing the letter they have printed on them. Unlike in vi where that depends on what mode you are in.

And the key with the left arrow was put there to erase your last input character, not to put a Ctrl^H on your screen unless you "remember" to stty erase first.

I don't have to stty to make the console print an A when I hit the A key, so why do I have to stty the erase?

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 11:18 • by DanDan (unregistered)
It seems everyone and his wonky donkey knows an awful lot about bombers.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 11:19 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
387068 in reply to 387066
Cbuttius:
The F keys were put on the computer keyboards so that the alphabetic characters could retain their purpose of typing the letter they have printed on them. Unlike in vi where that depends on what mode you are in.

And the key with the left arrow was put there to erase your last input character, not to put a Ctrl^H on your screen unless you "remember" to stty erase first.

I don't have to stty to make the console print an A when I hit the A key, so why do I have to stty the erase?

ummm... what? Dude... I think your computer needs a breathalizer built on to i.

Re: Refresh Your Virus Scanner

2012-08-13 11:19 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
387069 in reply to 387067
DanDan:
It seems everyone and his wonky donkey knows an awful lot about bombers.
yea... they are the bomb
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