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North Korea is a strange place. From what I've read, it's as close to Hell on Earth as any other place, and their sole economic output appears to be YouTube videos featuring their Mass Games. Oh, and don't even get me started on that whole Dear Leader thing. [expand full text]
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Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:04 • by SR (unregistered)
Does it work with BBCode too?

[b][b][b][b][b][b][b][b][b][b][b][b][b][b][b]Send me teh code LOL[/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b]

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:04 • by justsomedude (unregistered)
Must be an IE hack. Like pushing the elevator call button multiple times to make it come quicker.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:05 • by SR (unregistered)
315691 in reply to 315689
SR:
Does it work with BBCode too?

[b][b][b][b][b][b][b][b][b][b][b][b][b][b][b]Send me teh code LOL[/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b]


That'll be a "no" then. Shame. Clearly TDWTF is not as <strong> as the glorious People's Republic.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:06 • by John (unregistered)
Error, comment not [b][b]strong[/b][/b] enough.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:08 • by The Nerve (unregistered)
This is just an English translation of The Leader's speech. It goes: "less than, strong, greater than, less than, forward slash, strong, greater than, less than, strong, greater than, less than..."

Has kind of a musical quality to it, but you should hear it in the original Klingon, I mean, Korean.

I can't wait to hear it.
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Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:11 • by Kyle Z. (unregistered)
They showed their "strong" in the South Africa World Cup losing to Portugal with a great score: 7x0.

They are trying to regain their strength even in Web now.

Captcha: commoveo (Oh yeah, this history really moved me)

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:12 • by Matt Westwood (unregistered)
Reminds me of an apocryphal tale from an introductory programming class.

The instructor asked the student why the following:

10 LET I = 0
20 LET I = 0
30 LET I = 0
40 LET I = 0
50 LET I = 0

The answer came back: "I want to make sure the stupid computer actually gets the message this time."

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:17 • by frits
I am Kim.
Und I am Hu.

Und ve just vant to pump *clap* YOU UP!

Believe me now, and hear me later: it is people like you that are smelly trash, and are pitiful!

Poor little girlie man alone in his girlie house!

Ya! Get out of our face!

Ya! We don't need you!

perhaps we should remove this post...

2010-07-28 09:17 • by Roei (unregistered)
Alex, I suspect this might just be some kind of anti-regime joke made by someone from the inside. If that is so, it would probably be wise for us to remove this post. We don't want anyone to suffer because of a daily WTF.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:20 • by Knux2 (unregistered)
<head><head><head>monkey</head></head></head>

It's a three-headed monkey!

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:20 • by MuTaTeD (unregistered)
I might be blind for not seeing any sequence of <Strong> on the source of the linked web page

Is this a joke?

Did u check the source of the site to see if this WTF was really there or may be the Koreans are really great web developers that they updated their site within 5 minutes of your post

MuTaTeD

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:21 • by Steve The Cynic
315700 in reply to 315695
Matt Westwood:
Reminds me of an apocryphal tale from an introductory programming class.

The instructor asked the student why the following:

10 LET I = 0
20 LET I = 0
30 LET I = 0
40 LET I = 0
50 LET I = 0

The answer came back: "I want to make sure the stupid computer actually gets the message this time."


Ah, Shakespearean BASIC.

In Shakespeare's day, the word "let" meant basically the opposite of what it does in normal usage today, so this must have been the SBASIC language where "LET" means "PROHIBIT" or "PREVENT".

(In Hamlet, when the Prince of Denmark wants to talk to his father's ghost, he tells his friends, "Do not let me," meaning, "Do not try to stop me." This meaning of "let" survives in modern British English in the legalistic set phrase "without let or hindrance".)

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:23 • by Dear Leader (unregistered)
Can you not tell how glorious this is? You westerners will catch up in a few years.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:24 • by MuTaTeD (unregistered)
315702 in reply to 315699
Opps found it

I am really blind, actually I have gone blind after seeing the code

My Bad

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:25 • by HS (unregistered)
Had to search the site. Do a search on "internet seminar" which is right smack in the middle of the 'strong' references. Then scroll over right. Then scroll over right some more...

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:25 • by Johannes (unregistered)
315704 in reply to 315699
MuTaTeD:
I might be blind for not seeing any sequence of <Strong> on the source of the linked web page


It's still there.

But it is not the official site in the sense as I would think. It is from a private friendship foundation with strong links to DPR's gouvernment.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:26 • by anon (unregistered)
Doesn't really look like this is actually North Korea's website, registered to some dude in spain:

Registration Service Provided By: AXARNET COMUNICACIONES SL
Contact: +34.902120769

Domain Name: KOREA-DPR.COM

Registrant:
korea-dpr.com #22562
Alejandro Cao de Benos de Les Perez (vientian@hotmail.com)
Calle President Companys 4-8
Torredembarra -Tarragona
,43830
ES
Tel. +34.616496994

Creation Date: 08-Aug-2000
Expiration Date: 08-Aug-2011

Domain servers in listed order:
ns2.losdns.net
ns1.losdns.net


Administrative Contact:
korea-dpr.com #22562
Alejandro Cao de Benos de Les Perez (vientian@hotmail.com)
Calle President Companys 4-8
Torredembarra -Tarragona
,43830
ES
Tel. +34.616496994

Technical Contact:
Axarnet Comunicaciones SL
Ignacio Molina (dominios@axarnet.es)
Avda. Andalucia, 81 Edf. Jaime II, 2C
Torre del Mar
MALAGA,29740
ES
Tel. +34.902120769
Fax. +34.952546363

Billing Contact:
Axarnet Comunicaciones SL
Ignacio Molina (dominios@axarnet.es)
Avda. Andalucia, 81 Edf. Jaime II, 2C
Torre del Mar
MALAGA,29740
ES
Tel. +34.902120769
Fax. +34.952546363

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:31 • by frits
No no, you guys have it all wrong. It's not North Korea's official website, officially. That's the website's title: "Official webpage of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea"
See. There's a difference there.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:33 • by Michael Stevens (unregistered)
Maybe this is some kind of steganography. There is a message encoded in these strong tags.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:33 • by deveric (unregistered)
315708 in reply to 315705
anon:
Doesn't really look like this is actually North Korea's website, registered to some dude in spain:

Registration Service Provided By: AXARNET COMUNICACIONES SL
Contact: +34.902120769



They might have registered it outside of the DPRK since I doubt any US registrar would let them registrate

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:40 • by Kyle Z. (unregistered)
315709 in reply to 315705
anon:
Doesn't really look like this is actually North Korea's website, registered to some dude in spain:

Registration Service Provided By: AXARNET COMUNICACIONES SL
Contact: +34.902120769

Domain Name: KOREA-DPR.COM

Registrant:
korea-dpr.com #22562
Alejandro Cao de Benos de Les Perez (vientian@hotmail.com)
Calle President Companys 4-8
Torredembarra -Tarragona
,43830
ES
Tel. +34.616496994



WTF... Spain joking on North Korea? I smell a bomb-attack...

Captcha: nobis (Yeah, Spain noobs, don't know what they're doing)

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:41 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
315710 in reply to 315705
anon:
Doesn't really look like this is actually North Korea's website, registered to some dude in spain:

The site says it is published by the KFA, which defines itself as having “full recognition from the Government of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea” and allegedly possesses an office in Spain. The Spanish dude could simply be a Spain-based supporter of the DPRK.

Anyway, if you want something more official, you can always try their portal, which has a nice URL ending in .kp (and that's a pretty exclusive club ;-)

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:41 • by Some Wonk (unregistered)
315711 in reply to 315706
frits:
No no, you guys have it all wrong. It's not North Korea's official website, officially. That's the website's title: "Official webpage of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea"
See. There's a difference there.

You must want the Popular Judean Front. We're the People's Front for Judea.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:48 • by Jan (unregistered)
No, you are all wrong. This web page is the perfect place for hiding information in it using steganography...

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:50 • by Killian (unregistered)
Looks like they changed their claim to North Korea is Strong Korea!

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:51 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
I take it that "Rick O'Shay" is a pseudonym? I can do you one better: I've done some work in the past for Hanson Aggregates and their CEO is called Patrick O Shea. "Patrick" naturally contracts to "Rick" so his honest-to-God name is "Rick O Shea". Best name ever.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:51 • by Romeo (unregistered)
315715 in reply to 315698
Knux2:
<head><head><head>monkey</head></head></head>

It's a three-headed monkey!


Epic Monkey Island reference!

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:57 • by operagost
315716 in reply to 315700
The confusion comes from there being two similar sounding words in old English: "laetan", "to allow"; and "lettan", "to hinder".

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 09:57 • by Alargule (unregistered)
315717 in reply to 315690
justsomedude:
Must be an IE hack. Like pushing the elevator call button multiple times to make it come quicker.


Would do the trick for me, though...

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 10:00 • by JamesQMurphy
Now this entry might be fun to listen to on Hear-A-Blog. I wonder if would sound something like the Vikings chanting "Spam spam spam spam spam..."

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 10:01 • by freibooter (unregistered)
Congratulations, you just made North Korea's only self-taught web designer mysteriously disappear never to be seen again.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 10:03 • by en espagnol? (unregistered)
website hosted in spain? who's the internet expert [b][b][b]NOW?![/b][/b][/b]

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 10:05 • by DJ (unregistered)
Subliminal web-messaging anyone?

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 10:12 • by gramie
315723 in reply to 315711
Some Wonk:

You must want the Popular Judean Front. We're the People's Front for Judea.


I thought we were the Judean Popular People's Front?

(btw it's "People's front of Judea)

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 10:17 • by Max (unregistered)
I once worked on a site with code like this. It wasn't quite as bad, but it was the result of using MS FrontPage. I spent quite a while whittling down all the cases of <font><font><font><span></span><font></font>some text</font></font></font> to simply <p>some text</p>

I would guess the same thing has happened here. Every time they update the page, a new <strong> tag gets added. Which makes these tags like the rings on a tree, you can tell how often it has been updated by counting the tags. Although perhaps I'm underestimating North Korean culture, and they actually just want to make it really strong

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 10:18 • by nobulate
Obviously they improved their site security 904 fold. At least they had the forethought to close every opened tag!

Python Code
import re

import urllib

f = urllib.urlopen("http://www.korea-dpr.com")
text = f.read()
f.close()

r = re.compile(r"<strong>")
print "open strongs: %s" % len(r.findall(text))
# >>> 904

r = re.compile(r"</strong>")
print "close strongs: %s" % len(r.findall(text))
# >>> 904


Edit: At (904 * 8 char) words + (904 * 9 chars) there's 15,368 bytes bloat on that page. Doesn't seem much, but for every 65 page hits that's another meg gone. LOL.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 10:18 • by Lars Vargas
That's bad enough to make Kim Jong ill.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 10:20 • by Anon (unregistered)
315727 in reply to 315723
gramie:
Some Wonk:

You must want the Popular Judean Front. We're the People's Front for Judea.


I thought we were the Judean Popular People's Front?

(btw it's "People's front of Judea)


Splitter!

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 10:23 • by nobulate
frist page 2 :D

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 10:25 • by Dear Leader (unregistered)
I love the single <em> right in the middle of it all.

Also, pushing my elevator call button certainly makes me come quicker.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 10:26 • by Raymond (unregistered)
Also notice the javascript functions are prefixed with mm, which means they used Adobe dreamweaver or stole the functions from a dreamweaver designed site.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 10:33 • by I disagree (unregistered)
315734 in reply to 315698
Knux2:
<head><head><head>monkey</head></head></head>

It's a three-headed monkey!


This is a three headed monkey:

<monkey>
<head />
<head />
<head />
</monkey>

What you describe is a erm...
Monkey-headed-headed head?

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 10:47 • by The Nerve (unregistered)
With nothing else to do at work, I had to resort to a history of North Korea and ran across this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe_Murder_Incident

when Capt. Bonifas again turned his back on him, Pak removed his watch, carefully wrapped it in a handkerchief, placed it in his pocket, and then shouted "Kill them!" as he swung a karate chop to the back of Capt. Bonifas' neck.

...
While Capt. Bonifas died instantly...
Good form! Even a double-chop by Captain Kirk is only designed to render its victim unconscious.

But we know how to respond to that: 64 special forces with M-16s, grenade launchers, and claymore mines; A 165mm gun, 20 utility helicopters, and 6 Cobra attack choppers, B-52 bombers escorted by F-4 and F-5 fighter jets; 12,000 troops, 1,800 marines; 16 engineers, two platoons. They went to the middle of that bridge and chainsawed that m-fin tree down!

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 10:54 • by boog (unregistered)
315736 in reply to 315724
Max:
I once worked on a site with code like this. It wasn't quite as bad, but it was the result of using MS FrontPage. I spent quite a while whittling down all the cases of <font><font><font><span></span><font></font>some text</font></font></font> to simply <p>some text</p>

I would guess the same thing has happened here. Every time they update the page, a new <strong> tag gets added. Which makes these tags like the rings on a tree, you can tell how often it has been updated by counting the tags. Although perhaps I'm underestimating North Korean culture, and they actually just want to make it really strong


Another potential cause I've seen before is working with a buggy WYSIWYG editor (oh, I suppose you did already say Frontpage). Users will highlight something and click the "bold" button, but it won't go bold. So they click "bold" again. And again. And again. In reality, the editor is adding the <b> tags and due to some bug it is failing to show the bold font. So eventually you have text wrapped with 9000 <b> tags.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 11:03 • by Anonymous Coward (unregistered)


captcha: validus (roman authentication routine)

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 11:29 • by Mason Wheeler
315738 in reply to 315714
Anonymous:
I take it that "Rick O'Shay" is a pseudonym? I can do you one better: I've done some work in the past for Hanson Aggregates and their CEO is called Patrick O Shea. "Patrick" naturally contracts to "Rick" so his honest-to-God name is "Rick O Shea". Best name ever.


I thought Patrick naturally contracts to "Pat"...

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 11:36 • by go_back_to_4chan (unregistered)
Nobulate,

You should apologize for posting at all. Stupid cunt.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 11:42 • by Anon (unregistered)
315741 in reply to 315738
Mason Wheeler:
Anonymous:
I take it that "Rick O'Shay" is a pseudonym? I can do you one better: I've done some work in the past for Hanson Aggregates and their CEO is called Patrick O Shea. "Patrick" naturally contracts to "Rick" so his honest-to-God name is "Rick O Shea". Best name ever.


I thought Patrick naturally contracts to "Pat"...


Exactly, AFAIK, Rick is a short form of Richard. I've never heard of a Patrick going by Rick rather than Pat. I guess maybe if you were concerned about the androgynous nature of Pat, you might choose Rick instead?

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 11:46 • by Gram ma (unregistered)
Rick O'Shea - pshaw right. like that's real.

Next you'll have a post from Faye Kearings, Hugo First and Cliff Topp.

Re: Strong Web Design

2010-07-28 11:50 • by Richard P. (unregistered)
Okay, this might sound weird... but could we help them making a better website?
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