Comment On The Dreaded Peter Devil

The Peter Devil wasn't very good at delivering bad news. He also wasn't very good at delivering good news, neutral news, making decisions, motivating employees, or, just about anything else that a CTO is supposed to do. But -- bad news -- it just wasn't his thing. He notified, via email, a team of over fifty employees that they'd be jobless in two weeks Unfortunately, the Vancouver office will be disbanded on August 23; we'll need everyone to pull together and make an extra effort to finish up the Integration Project and transition the remaining work to us here in Toronto. [expand full text]
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Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:29 • by facetious
$10M CAD (or, $138.22 USD)

Learn2math.
kthx

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:31 • by G-Unit
105744 in reply to 105743
I think it was a joke....

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:31 • by Nick
105745 in reply to 105743

*laughs*

 

$10M CAD (or, $138.22 USD)

 

I was trying to find out if that was a joke against the Canadian dollar.

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:32 • by My name
105746 in reply to 105743

Anonymous:
$10M CAD (or, $138.22 USD)

Learn2math.
kthx


 

It's a joke...

 

I like the part about buying it for one cent :) 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:33 • by kipthegreat
105747 in reply to 105745
Anonymous:

*laughs*

 

$10M CAD (or, $138.22 USD)

 

I was trying to find out if that was a joke against the Canadian dollar.

No, that is the actual exchange rate.  And I am being completely serious.  Seriously.  I know a guy in Canada, and he confirmed it.  That makes it fact, not speculation.

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:34 • by malfist
105748 in reply to 105746

If $10M CAD = $138.22 USD

Then they paid less than a penny to buy the product.

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:34 • by Bibbo
105749 in reply to 105743
Seriously? Why can't people recognize sarcasm these days? 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:35 • by Chalain
105750 in reply to 105743


$10M CAD (or, $138.22 USD)

Learn2math.
kthx

 

I concur. I believe it is traditional to maintain the same number of digits of precision. This should be $138 USD.
 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:36 • by facetious
105753 in reply to 105746
Anonymous:

 

It's a joke...

 

I like the part about buying it for one cent :) 

I dunno.. For a product that lost so much money and had nearly unrecoverable source, I wouldn't pay more than $1 for it. :)


Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:36 • by malfist
105754 in reply to 105750

Google gave me this:

10 000 000 Canadian dollars = 8.74125874 million U.S. dollars

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:37 • by dustin

The real WTF is that the company paid one Canadian dollar for the junked up software. They should of demanded that they made it open source so they could of gotten a copy of it for free.

Captcha: creative

 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:37 • by tster
105756 in reply to 105750
canadian dollars are so worthless they don't trade anything less than the $1,000 CAD amount therefore that are 5 significant digits, the same as the $US amount. ;)

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:38 • by Sweet Rasberry Danish
105758 in reply to 105749

Anonymous:
Seriously? Why can't people recognize sarcasm these days? 

Say way people can't recognize trolls trying to get people to bite the whole "It's sarcasm!?!?!" thing.

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:40 • by guy
105759 in reply to 105743

Anonymous:
$10M CAD (or, $138.22 USD)

Learn2math.
kthx

 

The joke is dated, the Canadian dollar is almost at 90 cents US ( 0.87 +/- ).  I guess it was funnier when the US economy was doing better...

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:41 • by VGR
Peter Devil was clearly in need of this.

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:43 • by doc0tis
105761 in reply to 105747

Agreed. Whatever we (Canadians) say is in actuality FACT!

 

--doc0tis

 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:43 • by JamesKilton
105762 in reply to 105758
Anonymous:

Anonymous:
Seriously? Why can't people recognize sarcasm these days? 

Say way people can't recognize trolls trying to get people to bite the whole "It's sarcasm!?!?!" thing.

So using your logic, nothing on the internet should ever be taken seriously...

No, I think you give some people too much benefit of the doubt. Even if this person was trying to make himself look funny in leiu of a previous joke (very lame and hint of a quite unfunny person), it still makes you laugh AT the person, not WITH.

 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:45 • by KattMan
105763 in reply to 105755
Anonymous:

The real WTF is that the company paid one Canadian dollar for the junked up software. They should of demanded that they made it open source so they could of gotten a copy of it for free.

Captcha: creative

 

<grammernazialert> 

It does annoy me how educated people here can't get the basics of language down, and yes it is only English speakers that butcher English in this fashion.

They should have demanded that they made it open source so they could have gotten a copy of it for free.

</grammernazialert> 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:47 • by Yuriy
105765 in reply to 105762
JamesKilton:
Anonymous:

Anonymous:
Seriously? Why can't people recognize sarcasm these days? 

Say way people can't recognize trolls trying to get people to bite the whole "It's sarcasm!?!?!" thing.

So using your logic, nothing on the internet should ever be taken seriously...

 

By George, I think she's got it!

[ captcha: giggity]
 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:48 • by dustin
105766 in reply to 105763

Whoever said I was educated. Me not think and talk good

Captcha: captcha? WTF

Why is captcha the captcha text?

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:49 • by Give it up...
105767 in reply to 105755
Anonymous:

The real WTF is that the company paid one Canadian dollar for the junked up software. They should of demanded that they made it open source so they could of gotten a copy of it for free.

The real WTF is that so many people here spew this stupid "the real WTF" crap every time anything is posted. 

SHAME!!

2006-12-07 15:55 • by Claude Houle
It's just a shame that the original story got distorted by whoever edit this site... For the one that are really interested in the REAL story (Which is less spectacular but closer to reality), you can go to my blog: http://dailyitstories.blogspot.com/

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:56 • by osp70
105769 in reply to 105756

Anonymous:
canadian dollars are so worthless they don't trade anything less than the $1,000 CAD amount therefore that are 5 significant digits, the same as the $US amount. ;)

 

noting that the cdn dollar is close to 0.90 of the US dollar that makes your us dollar only 10% useful.

Add to that the Euro is selling for more than the us dollar, makes the europeans that much better.

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:57 • by wk633

The competitor obliged and, in a symbolic gesture, bought the software, it's source code, for a single Canadian dollar.

 

O.K. I know I'm a worthless grammar Nazi, but it's its, not it's!

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 15:59 • by Zorro

So this company didn't have any version control system or backups of any kind?  Sounds like a lot of WTFs have been glossed over here.

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:01 • by ERTW
105774 in reply to 105763
KattMan:
Anonymous:

The real WTF is that the company paid one Canadian dollar for the junked up software. They should of demanded that they made it open source so they could of gotten a copy of it for free.

Captcha: creative

 

<grammernazialert> 

It does annoy me how educated people here can't get the basics of language down, and yes it is only English speakers that butcher English in this fashion.

They should have demanded that they made it open source so they could have gotten a copy of it for free.

</grammernazialert> 

 

 

<grammernazialert> 

"gotten"  That's a big sad face. Use of that word makes me shudder.

 "They should have demanded that they made it open source so they could get a copy of it for free."

</grammernazialert> 

 

hehe. "craptastic" 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:03 • by GoatCheez
Alex Papadimoulis:

The competitor obliged and, in a symbolic gesture, bought the software, it's source code, for a single Canadian dollar.

 The competitor STILL got ripped off!
 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:06 • by themagni
105776 in reply to 105772
Anonymous:

So this company didn't have any version control system or backups of any kind?  Sounds like a lot of WTFs have been glossed over here.

That was my first thought - how can someone sabotage the code? It's all in the repository.

If it's not in the repository, it's not source code. It's just a bunch of text.
 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:08 • by ItsAllGeekToMe
105777 in reply to 105774

I'm pretty sure it should be:

"They shouldave demanded that they made it open source so that they have get a copy of it for free."

 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:08 • by JR
The shenanigans guy is slow today.  He should have been spewing his nonsense 5 minutes ago.

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:09 • by cconroy

I'm wondering about "Peter Devil"... was his real name Paul Satan or something?

 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:10 • by anony-mouse
The Symantec ad is part of the WTF right?

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:11 • by Anon
105783 in reply to 105743

facetious :
$10M CAD (or, $138.22 USD) Learn2math. kthx
I guess people don't check the names any more, huh?

 Oh, and thanks to the grammar nazi on the "could of" thing.

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:13 • by Scientific Genius
105784 in reply to 105750

Actually, the number $10M has only one significant digit.  Therefore it should be $100USD.



If you're going to bring the pedantry, it better be brought-en. 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:18 • by rmg66
105785 in reply to 105763

It does annoy me how educated people here can't get the basics of language down, and yes it is only English speakers that butcher English in this fashion.

*****************************************************

Code Monkey wake up, go work, bang keyboard.

Code Monkey not write tech doc.

Code Monkey very simple man.

Code Monkey see captcha: Zork

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:19 • by SM
105786 in reply to 105754
Anonymous:

Google gave me this:

10 000 000 Canadian dollars = 8.74125874 million U.S. dollars



No, no... I've seen Canadian money -- completely worthless.  Real Canadians use cases of Labatt's as the official currency.

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:20 • by notromda
105788 in reply to 105750
Anonymous:


$10M CAD (or, $138.22 USD)

Learn2math.
kthx

 

I concur. I believe it is traditional to maintain the same number of digits of precision. This should be $138 USD.
 

 

If you are going to keep the same number of precision, then it would be just $100 USD.  There is only one digit of precision in the CAD figure. 

Since the actual exchange rate is near 87%, rounding to the nearest significant precision would actually yield $10M CAD = $9M USD. 

 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:22 • by Shadowman
105789 in reply to 105763
KattMan:

<grammernazialert> 

It does annoy me how educated people here can't get the basics of language down, and yes it is only English speakers that butcher English in this fashion.

They should have demanded that they made it open source so they could have gotten a copy of it for free.

</grammernazialert> 

shoulda, coulda, woulda.  Personally I prefer  should've

 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:29 • by Anonymous
105790 in reply to 105750
Anonymous:


$10M CAD (or, $138.22 USD)

Learn2math.
kthx

 

I concur. I believe it is traditional to maintain the same number of digits of precision. This should be $138 USD.
 

<pedantic> 

Umm... $10M CAD would be 1 sig. fig therefore if we were gonna maintain sig figs, it would be only $100 USD

</pedantic>

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:29 • by Jon
105791 in reply to 105774
Anonymous:
"gotten"  That's a big sad face. Use of that word makes me shudder.
It's been an accepted part of English for a few hundred years. Next thou'lt be complaining about singular 'you'.

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:32 • by el jaybird
105792 in reply to 105786

Anonymous:
No, no... I've seen Canadian money -- completely worthless.  Real Canadians use cases of Labatt's as the official currency.

 Actually, we use these.

Captcha: enterprisey. Yuppers!

 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:36 • by Zygo
105795 in reply to 105772
Anonymous:

So this company didn't have any version control system or backups of any kind?  Sounds like a lot of WTFs have been glossed over here.



I suspect that the version control system was removed so that sufficient space to install Diablo II could be freed.

 As for the backups...during "routine" off-line testing they probably all tested as "bad" and got thrown out or recycled.  Or maybe they did a full backup cycle (including one full GFS tape rotation) right after Diablo II was installed (you know, it's pretty hard to install Diablo II, you wouldn't want to go through it more than once when you could just restore from backup in the event of a hard crash ;-). 

  If I were in that situation I'm not sure I'd be professional enough to not do the same...
 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:39 • by Zygo
105796 in reply to 105775
GoatCheez:
Alex Papadimoulis:

The competitor obliged and, in a symbolic gesture, bought the software, it's source code, for a single Canadian dollar.

 The competitor STILL got ripped off!
 

If I were the competitor, I'd require the salesdroids to take me out to a restaurant where the menu starts at $50 a plate--charged as a business entertainment expense to the selling company.  Good food for $0.87, and I all I have to do is bring home a CD with some data on it.

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:41 • by Gedoon
If it doesn't work, just throw money at it and hope for the best.

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:44 • by Scott B.
105798 in reply to 105792
Yeah, but they don't take Canadian Tire Dollars down at the Dominion.

Re: SHAME!!

2006-12-07 16:50 • by blaaaaaaaaaaaaa
105799 in reply to 105768

Anonymous:
It's just a shame that the original story got distorted by whoever edit this site... For the one that are really interested in the REAL story (Which is less spectacular but closer to reality), you can go to my blog: http://dailyitstories.blogspot.com/

So they didn't sell it off for a dollar?  Damn.  That was the cherry on top. 

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 16:59 • by Dirk
105802 in reply to 105790
All saying that $10M has 1 sigfig are tragically wrong. 0 is just as significant as non-zero, and given the M acts as the exponent, this is equivalent to 10*10**6. Which is two significant figures, or else it'd be 1*10**7. However if we're told specifically that it was *exactly* 10M, down to the fractions of cents, and the exchange rate was known *exactly* at the *exact* same time, then we don't care anyway. No really.

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 17:00 • by Foggen
105803 in reply to 105790

Umm... $10M CAD would be 1 sig. fig therefore if we were gonna maintain sig figs, it would be only $100 USD

 I'd argue that $10M can be seen as 2 sig. figs.  1 sig. fig would be written as $1*10^7.

 So properly, $140.
 

 captcha: captcha

Re: The Dreaded Peter Devil

2006-12-07 17:04 • by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Over.
105804 in reply to 105774
Anonymous:
KattMan:
<grammernazialert> 

It does annoy me how educated people here can't get the basics of language down, and yes it is only English speakers that butcher English in this fashion.

They should have demanded that they made it open source so they could have gotten a copy of it for free.

</grammernazialert> 

<grammernazialert> 

"gotten"  That's a big sad face. Use of that word makes me shudder.

 "They should have demanded that they made it open source so they could get a copy of it for free."

</grammernazialert> 

hehe. "craptastic" 

If the the misspelling of "grammar" in both of these posts was intended as a joke:

Ha, ha! That's damn funny!

If not:

WTF???!?

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