Comment On sometimes headers get that do long

"This strange tooltip popped up while playing with some code in Dev-C++," J. K. writes. "It seems to be saying something important but unfortunately doesn't make any sense." [expand full text]
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Re: Variable naming

2008-03-25 08:04 • by brazzy
What's a "scrsz"? It sounds like someone clearing his throat.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 08:11 • by chishm
The bug tracker is missing the all-important "File Not Found".

Re: Variable naming

2008-03-25 08:21 • by Marty (unregistered)
185666 in reply to 185662
brazzy:
What's a "scrsz"? It sounds like someone clearing his throat.


I'm thinking source size.

Re: Variable naming

2008-03-25 08:24 • by deborahgsmith (unregistered)
185667 in reply to 185662
brazzy:
What's a "scrsz"? It sounds like someone clearing his throat.


I was thinking "screensize", or maybe a famous film director.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 08:26 • by Kartik (unregistered)
In Dev-C++, you get funny tooltips when you hover over other data types too (int, char etc.)

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 08:38 • by JD (unregistered)
I would hasten to guess that MetaEdit was written for IIS 4.0 and 5.0 whether or not he chose to continue.

Not that he was really give a choice in the matter. It begs the question of whether or not we really have "Free Will", and plays the part a much-needed link between deterministic theology and....and.......

...damn, I still miss the Irish girl.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 08:56 • by pitchingchris
I think the third one might even be a further WTF. Almost suggests that it is sharing data with either another column, or using a single database column to hold multiple listbox choices. None, Yes, No, or Neither should not be choices for a request source, but they would probably be easily be seen in other selections in the issue tracker. If its an interal program, it might also suggest some copy n paste screwup where the code was copied that did the Yes, No, etc. and just added the proper code below it without removing the copy paste example they were following.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 08:57 • by Foo (unregistered)
And I though I was the only who saw the black sidebar/linenumbers bug in Dev-C++.

For those who have never used Dev-C++, there was weird bug that when you changed syntax colors, Dev-C++ decided to change the background and foreground colors of the sidebar to black, thus you could not see linenumbers; the only way IIRC to fix it was to manually edit config file, the program refused to change the colors after the bug happened. And this bug was very random. And annoying. And it was not fixed for years, if ever (haven't used it for couple of years now).

I use Code::Blocks these day.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 09:12 • by sinistral
185672 in reply to 185670
pitchingchris:
I think the third one might even be a further WTF. Almost suggests that it is sharing data with either another column, or using a single database column to hold multiple listbox choices. None, Yes, No, or Neither should not be choices for a request source, but they would probably be easily be seen in other selections in the issue tracker.


It's not a program written in-house, it's Jira. These values were created by one of the administrators of this particular site, perhaps as an import from a previously used system. The blame goes not to the software, but to the person configuring the software for the site.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 09:21 • by jmroth
185673 in reply to 185664
chishm:
The bug tracker is missing the all-important "File Not Found".


Oh but "Neither" yes or no *IS* FILE_NOT_FOUND !!

Re: Variable naming

2008-03-25 09:43 • by Odo (unregistered)
185675 in reply to 185662
brazzy:
What's a "scrsz"? It sounds like someone clearing his throat.

"sz" stands for a null-terminated string, although I have seen it much more as a prefix to the variable name, like "szSrc", "lpszFileName", etc. Windows API is full of this variable naming convention.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 09:46 • by Odo (unregistered)
Alas, looks like I have misunderstood the variable name/context :)

Re: Variable naming

2008-03-25 09:46 • by me (unregistered)
185677 in reply to 185675
Yeah, that's why they are storing an unsigned long into it.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 09:48 • by T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM
185678 in reply to 185664
chishm:
The bug tracker is missing the all-important "File Not Found".
And "Silver" as well.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 10:01 • by A Nonny Mouse
not only can you have no source of request, but you can have it in 4 different ways - 2 of which are actually the same :(

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 10:01 • by The MAZZTer
185680 in reply to 185671
Foo:
I use Code::Blocks these day.


I was going to try that, but then I noticed that the last update to it was back in 2005. Dev-C++ was last updated in 2006.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 10:11 • by ounos
Invisible dialogs is a joke in itself.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 10:24 • by Vempele
185691 in reply to 185680
The MAZZTer:
Foo:
I use Code::Blocks these day.


I was going to try that, but then I noticed that the last update to it was back in 2005. Dev-C++ was last updated in 2006.


You didn't notice the nightly builds? Anyway, Code::Blocks 8.02 was released a month ago.

Re: Variable naming

2008-03-25 10:31 • by elias
185698 in reply to 185667
deborahgsmith:
brazzy:
What's a "scrsz"? It sounds like someone clearing his throat.


I was thinking "screensize", or maybe a famous film director.

Except that it's "srcsz".

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 10:42 • by DaveK
185706 in reply to 185683
ounos:
Invisible dialogs is a joke in itself.

Well, it's a lolcat caption to be precise...

Delayed reactions or what!

2008-03-25 10:46 • by DaveK
I think the OP must have the tool-tip delay time set too high in his windows settings:


All these other people took much less than three years to notice the bug!

Re: Variable naming

2008-03-25 10:47 • by T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM
185710 in reply to 185698
z0mg s0rCeZ0rsz!11!ONEONE!8D

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 11:53 • by IV (unregistered)
I see several comments about Dev-Cpp. Is this the version offered by bloodshed.net? Dev-Cpp seems kind of generic.

captcha: paratus

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 11:54 • by axus
wxDevCpp is an improved version of DevC++. I think they've stopped updating that one as well, though ;p

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 11:56 • by umm... (unregistered)

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 12:09 • by Erik N (unregistered)
I sometimes feel these yes/no questions with an okay dialog must be mistranslated from Japanese.

The participle in question must be "ne" which is to indicate agreement. As in "Atsui desu ne" It's hot, isn't it?

And not a "ka" which is a yes/no question. "samui desu ka" Is it cold?

Because we all know that we developers don't make mistakes. It's the doc writer and language services departments that do. :)

And for those that didn't catch it, yes this is a joke.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 12:23 • by Neither (unregistered)
185757 in reply to 185679
A Nonny Mouse:
not only can you have no source of request, but you can have it in 4 different ways - 2 of which are actually the same :(
The real WTF is that there are two choices each of Neither and None, but only one choice of No.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 12:38 • by A Nonny Mouse
185761 in reply to 185757
Neither:
A Nonny Mouse:
not only can you have no source of request, but you can have it in 4 different ways - 2 of which are actually the same :(
The real WTF is that there are two choices each of Neither and None, but only one choice of No.

to be honest i'm trying not to think about it too much, lest my brain implodes

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 13:15 • by Walleye (unregistered)
185775 in reply to 185752
Erik N:

The participle in question must be "ne" which is to indicate agreement. As in "Atsui desu ne" It's hot, isn't it?


<pedantic mode>Ummm, ne is a particle, not a participle.</pedantic mode>

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 15:54 • by v.dog (unregistered)
Don't you just love it when an app asks a rhetorical question?
[OK]

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 16:16 • by DaveK
185812 in reply to 185748
umm...:


TBH, you missed a trick or two there:



There. Fixed it for ya.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 16:17 • by al (unregistered)

S. V. couldn't decipher what was being said here:


I can decipher that some poor smiley that got that A lodged in his face

^_`A

He used to be so happy too. Every time I saw him, he'd be like ^_^.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 16:54 • by ibegofyou (unregistered)
185827 in reply to 185669
JD:
I would hasten to guess that MetaEdit was written for IIS 4.0 and 5.0 whether or not he chose to continue.

Not that he was really give a choice in the matter. It begs the question of whether or not we really have "Free Will", and plays the part a much-needed link between deterministic theology and....and.......

...damn, I still miss the Irish girl.


Sorry, gotta do this:

http://begthequestion.info/

When you beg the "question", you're proving a conclusion by merely restating it. It's mostly the same as saying "that's just circular logic", but "begs the question" is a little more descriptive.

I don't blame you...lots of computer books get it wrong, which is mildly annoying considering the price tags on those things.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 17:37 • by tin
185836 in reply to 185672
sinistral:
It's not a program written in-house, it's Jira.


And as issue tracking systems go, from what I've seen, it's one (if not the) best out there. Simple enough that almost any user can figure it out, but powerful enough to still be useful.

Edit: And I sure wish the government department I work for had chosen it instead of the pile of crap they picked (and probably paid more for).

srcsz has in-line comment?

2008-03-25 18:37 • by Jim d. (unregistered)
I think that srcsz must have a line-comment on the line that it's defined, aka:


unsigned long srcsz; //sometimes headers get that do long
...
...


This would cause a tooltip with this inane message when you hovered over (or near) the occurances of "srcsz". Perhaps it was a fragment that was continued on comments on the next line. Who knows.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 20:21 • by DrGuz (unregistered)
Sometimes headers do get that long. Or at least, that's how my brain insisted on repeatedly parsing it.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-25 21:45 • by Lynx (unregistered)
185878 in reply to 185672
sinistral:
It's not a program written in-house, it's Jira. These values were created by one of the administrators of this particular site, perhaps as an import from a previously used system. The blame goes not to the software, but to the person configuring the software for the site.

I confirm this. The problem is more with the person who set up the customization, not the software itself.

The software is a good, stable software. I currently maintain it for my organization, and after having to isolate dozens of problems down to my middleware and infrastructure -- which thanks to management short-sight, is fairly... well, was crappy, now, is better with a better operator in charge. Anyhow, I feel that the app is actually quite robust and stable, it's just that sometimes some of the admins are dumber than bricks.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-26 01:36 • by Ahsayuni (unregistered)
185891 in reply to 185752
Erik N:
I sometimes feel these yes/no questions with an okay dialog must be mistranslated from Japanese.

The participle in question must be "ne" which is to indicate agreement. As in "Atsui desu ne" It's hot, isn't it?

And not a "ka" which is a yes/no question. "samui desu ka" Is it cold?

Because we all know that we developers don't make mistakes. It's the doc writer and language services departments that do. :)

And for those that didn't catch it, yes this is a joke.
I'm guessing they just paste in a call to MessageBox() and forget to change the buttons.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-26 01:40 • by Laxminarayan G Kamath A (unregistered)
185892 in reply to 185664
May be the "File not found" file was not found.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-26 03:17 • by Burglar (unregistered)
I think the MetaEdit thing is because of someone carelessly copied the dialog resource from the following dialog:

---------------------------
MetaEdit
---------------------------
So it's your fault to mass up again?
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-26 10:30 • by Pope
Do long
Dooby dooby long
Do long, do long wo-o-o-oah
Long Days,
Red Bulls,
And all ni-i-i-ghters.

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-26 12:56 • by Praesent (unregistered)
Sometimes comments get that do long

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-26 13:26 • by JD (unregistered)
186135 in reply to 185827
ibegofyou:
JD:
I would hasten to guess that MetaEdit was written for IIS 4.0 and 5.0 whether or not he chose to continue.

Not that he was really give a choice in the matter. It begs the question of whether or not we really have "Free Will", and plays the part a much-needed link between deterministic theology and....and.......

...damn, I still miss the Irish girl.


Sorry, gotta do this:

http://begthequestion.info/

When you beg the "question", you're proving a conclusion by merely restating it. It's mostly the same as saying "that's just circular logic", but "begs the question" is a little more descriptive.

I don't blame you...lots of computer books get it wrong, which is mildly annoying considering the price tags on those things.


Please, don't apologize! I should have known this, what with being a philosophy major, required to take the intro to logic class. If memory serves, the prof would often ask us if something "begs the question", and I never really knew wtf he was talking about. Thanks for showing me the light! (If only everyone whose grammar I corrected would be so happy; I would be much more popular)

CAPTCHA: conventio

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-26 20:45 • by DaveK
186205 in reply to 186135
JD:
ibegofyou:
JD:
I would hasten to guess that MetaEdit was written for IIS 4.0 and 5.0 whether or not he chose to continue.

Not that he was really give a choice in the matter. It begs the question of whether or not we really have "Free Will", and plays the part a much-needed link between deterministic theology and....and.......

...damn, I still miss the Irish girl.


Sorry, gotta do this:

http://begthequestion.info/

When you beg the "question", you're proving a conclusion by merely restating it. It's mostly the same as saying "that's just circular logic", but "begs the question" is a little more descriptive.

I don't blame you...lots of computer books get it wrong, which is mildly annoying considering the price tags on those things.


Please, don't apologize! I should have known this, what with being a philosophy major, required to take the intro to logic class. If memory serves, the prof would often ask us if something "begs the question", and I never really knew wtf he was talking about. Thanks for showing me the light!

Heh. Now that you've learnt it, here's an exercise for you:
Watch 100 politicians explaining why whatever-it-is-that-they're-currently-proposing inevitably has to be the case, rather than is just a matter of choice and/or dogma.
While you do that, count how many of them beg the question.

[If you find one who doesn't, you win.]

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-27 13:15 • by Other not listed (unregistered)
186357 in reply to 185670
pitchingchris:
Almost suggests that it is sharing data with either another column, or using a single database column to hold multiple listbox choices.
Right, those listbox choices might come from a database table -- unfortunately they are then retrieved by a SQL query where at least three different values of NEITHER match the where clause.

Something along the lines of,
Select NONE from FILE_NOT_FOUND where NEITHER * NEITHER <= 1

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-27 13:23 • by I could not code my way out of an open dialog window... (unregistered)
What's wrong with invisible dialogs? For instance, when you need to define some constants that are used in a lot of places, and you can't think of a reasonably illogical place to put them, why not put them into an invisible dialog?

Just make sure that the invisible dialog window has been created (if not made visible) before you use any of those constants, otherwise they might still have the wrong values... ;-)

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-27 13:25 • by The Invisible Man (unregistered)
What's the deal with the invisible dialog? I couldn't see anything there (which would be consistent with it being invisible). Could you?

Re: sometimes headers get that do long

2008-03-27 13:37 • by unsigned long (unregistered)
Sometimes unsigned long's can go to your head.
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