Comment On 19th Century MSDN Subscription

"MSDN subscriptions were great in the 19th century. Once the 1900's rolled around, I never bothered to renew it," wrote Josh Einstein. [expand full text]
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Re: 19th Century MSDN Subscription

2013-02-02 20:02 • by fjf (unregistered)
400478 in reply to 400459
I don't think targeted ads work as well as Google or whomever would like the advertisers to think. The targeted ads that I'm getting lately:

1. I recently bought a new scanner. I spent a few hours shopping around and then ordered it. For months after, I got ads for scanners. Too late guys, I already bought one. How many scanners do you think I need?
For a long time now, all the ads I get are basically:

- Products I bought a few weeks ago.

- Hotels in cities I was last month.

- On some sites (like this one): Always the same I've seen hundreds of times and I either want or no do not want the product and I'm not going to change my mind by seeing the same ad once more.

Slightly relevant xkcd.

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Re: 19th Century MSDN Subscription

2013-02-03 03:34 • by Lukas (unregistered)
The "In the future," part of the Install-on-demand message caught my eye. The phrasing makes it sound like an accusation "*Sigh* In the future, I would APPRECIATE if ... ".

Anyhow, I would probably have tried something like "Note: To remove or modify components, [...]"

...or nothing at all. It is nice that components can be removed like that, but probably not that important. Someone who cares could look that up elsewhere, and others are instead probably frightened by the scary bulkiness of the message, suggesting that dangers are afoot.

Oh and "for this operation" should preferably have specified what operation that is. Also a term like "Install-on-Demand Component" seems unhelpful, a subtle case of a programmer-friendly phrase breaching the user interface.

Re: 19th Century MSDN Subscription

2013-02-03 18:25 • by Simon (unregistered)
400481 in reply to 400452
That 12/31/1899 was used when you wanted SQL to display only a time in SQL 7.0. You couldn't set it directly though. You had to set the date to 1/1/1900 and subtract 1 for some reason or the date would display.

Hmm... I was assuming it was a "-1" error value, expressed as a date from epoch...

Re: 19th Century MSDN Subscription

2013-02-04 13:22 • by jay (unregistered)
400534 in reply to 400478
On the one hand, there's something fundamentally creepy about Google tracking where you've been and using that info to target ads. It's the electronic equivalent of someone following you around all day, seeing what stores you shop at or other places you visit, and then mailing you ads based on that. Like, they see you go to a bowling alley, they send you ads for bowling shoes. You go to a concert, they send you ads for that genre music albums. You go to a strip club, they send you ads for porn. You go to a church, they send you ads for Bible study books. Etc. No different in principle from what Google does.

On the other hand, I guess as long as you're not ashamed of the places you're going, why should you care? It doesn't cost me anything -- presumably it benefits me, as advertisers are paying the cost of websites that I like to visit.

Still, I lean toward creepy. And one can easily see abuse. Like who has access to this information? Could a potential employer decide not to hire you because he discovers that you frequent sites advocating social or religious beliefs that he disagrees with? If the Democrats are in power and government officials discover you visit Republican web sites, or vice versa, could they use that against you when you apply for benefits or come tax audit time or whatever?

Nothing to do with the Internet, but a certain TV commentator once said that in his entire life before being on TV he was audited by the IRS once, and that was a brief phone call that resulted in the issue being quickly cleared up. In the then three years that he had been on TV routinely criticizing the policies of the administration that was in power at the time, the IRS audited him ... three times. Oh, I don't suppose that I'm important enough for the government to want to come after me personally -- I'll have to work much harder before I make it to the president's list of enemies. But I can easily imagine them harassing influential people, and that could hurt me indirectly. And I can easily imagine them providing favoritism to people in general from the right party.

Re: 19th Century MSDN Subscription

2013-02-06 11:20 • by Val (unregistered)
Forget about MSDN. The subscription for STEAM in that time was even better!

Re: 19th Century MSDN Subscription

2013-02-06 17:58 • by db (unregistered)
400777 in reply to 400534
It doesn't cost me anything -- presumably it benefits me, as advertisers are paying the cost of websites that I like to visit.

It doesn't benefit you. Who do you think pays for those ad's? You do through higher cost products. It also costs you your time and attention. Your cost/benefit ratio for unsolicited advertising is very poor - just another form of spam really.
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