Comment On Brevity Is Important

Paul likes brevity, so he was discouraged when he received a really long and confusing error message. For those unfamiliar, "brevity" is defined by Merriam-Webster as a shortness of duration, or a shortness or conciseness of expression. To elaborate, it is the ability to describe a potentially complex idea in as quick a way as possible, leaving out extraneous details that would serve only to confuse the listener. If extra details are needlessly left in, listeners' eyes will glaze over and they'll stop paying attention to your message, which is why it is of the utmost importance that an idea be expressed clearly and quickly. Also, be sure to phrase your message in simple language. Overly uburbulous words will klologe readers if they have deblionic vocabularies. When trying to write humor, knowing when to end a joke is important, too. God damnit, here's your screenshot. [expand full text]
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Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 15:01 • by Thorin (unregistered)
"Did you know the word "gullible" isn't in any edition of the Merriam-Webster dictionary? "

Ya I already said I was ok with it.

I have no problem admitting I checked because I know plenty of others did and just won't say so.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 15:01 • by AndrewB (unregistered)
I wish these people would just learn to make use of their environment's built-in functionality.


System.Verbose.CorsicationHolder ch = new System.Verbose.CorsicationHolder(this);
if (ch.IsIntrigid == true)
{
System.Verbose.Rebspok.YominaWarper yw = ch.GetBundingWarper(ch.CurrentArtel);
try
{
yw.PourStackOut();
}
finally {}
}
else
{
doNothing();
}

private void doNothing()
{
// Make sure we are really doing nothing
doNothing();
}



Sheesh.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 15:05 • by spamparranoid (unregistered)
129593 in reply to 129590
Thorin:
Ok I'll admit it I actually had to check....flame on I don't care.

"uburbulous words will klologe readers if they have deblionic vocabularies"

uburbulous - doesn't come up at dictionary.reference.com, though is found by google (though it brings up a lot of Matrix references not any actual definition that I could find).

klologe - Nothing @ dictionary. Two non-English references on google.

deblionic - Nothing @ dictionary. Google says "Did you mean Dublin" and returns nothing.


Somebody should put these on urbandictionary.com I think they are very useful in the english language.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 15:05 • by mav (unregistered)
Found probrem more than one.

You want flied lice? You is rucky rady tonight! Me give flied lice free! kekekekekeke

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 15:25 • by Le Verne (unregistered)
My Grandfather's favourite quote was:

"Brevity is the soul of wit".

It is appropriate for so many situations.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 15:39 • by John (unregistered)
Looks like the kind of shit non-english-speaking indians make at work here.


Hey, they cost less though, so obviously they're worth it!!!


/sigh.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 15:48 • by bobbo (unregistered)
129601 in reply to 129554
Zylon:
DM:
AnthonyG:
All your MessageBox are belong to us



yessah! Zero-wing!!

Congratulations on your third-grade mastery of Internet fads.

/the best way to suck the humor out of a reference is to point at it and scream "I get it!"


I don't get it?

(Ignore this if you're the "Zero-wing!!" guy above.)

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 16:10 • by The Vicar
This reminds me of this...

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 16:32 • by bstorer
129607 in reply to 129596
Le Verne:
My Grandfather's favourite quote was:

"Brevity is the soul of wit".

It is appropriate for so many situations.

My grandfather's favorite quote was "You know Max."
When someone would inevitably reply "Max who?", he would come back with "Max no difference."
It was hardly ever appropriate.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 16:42 • by Vibeulator (unregistered)
Wow. An example of why outsourcing is so great for the bottom line.

CAPTCHA: ninjas - perfect!

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 17:00 • by BrownHornet
129613 in reply to 129517
Ms. Crabapple:
Sheb:
Overly uburbulous words will klologe readers if they have deblionic vocabularies

Come on! Those aren't even real words anymore. You're just making shit up now.

uburbulous is a perfectly cromulent word.

Those are exactly my sentimonies.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 17:39 • by kopepi (unregistered)
Google translate is your friend

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 18:08 • by MX5Ringer (unregistered)
Frist!!

I really wish I had the nuts to put stuff like this in error messages in the stuff I write, It'd make normal life seem so much more exciting.

Much better than "There is a problem, please contact technical support, and quote error code " etc etc etc

CAPTCHA:- Looney (some looney's writing error messages?)

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 19:23 • by Steve Bush (unregistered)
Sounds like the sort of message that occurs when you write the error message in English, translate to an Asian language, then back to English. Reminds me of the News Radio episode

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 19:47 • by chrismcb
Think the next Bug report I get that is caused by some other project, I'm going to respond with:

"Could be fertilized by special purpose in other application program."

But, whoever got that dialog, I would recomment that you execute the below "Modification", directly.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 20:21 • by Michael G. (unregistered)
129629 in reply to 129551
sjs:
kirchhoff:
Ms. Crobople:

uburbulous is a perfectly cromulent word.


While cromulent may have been a made-up word, it certainly isn't anymore. I've used it in conversation (entirely by accident) and people seemed to understand what it meant (either coincidentally or by context).


It certainly is still a made-up word. It is gibberish, nonsense. Regardless off your view on what its definition should be and no matter how many of your friends want to act smart by pretending to know words they're unfamiliar with it is still just a meaningless word that was made up for The Simpsons.


Isn't gibberish the root of all words? I mean, it's not like one day our ancient ancestors suddenly decided all at once that solid ground was to be called called "rock" and that clear liquid that falls out of the sky was to be called "water."

Language evolves. If enough people start using cromulent as a word, then it becomes a legitimate word. You might not like it, but that's how this whole language thing works.

And, don't go starting on this "it's not in the dictionary" thing to which you might be tempted. Dictionaries reflect usage - they do not dictate what the language is.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-30 21:12 • by darkshaddow
129631 in reply to 129559
Mogri:
sjs:
kirchhoff:
Ms. Crobople:

uburbulous is a perfectly cromulent word.


While cromulent may have been a made-up word, it certainly isn't anymore. I've used it in conversation (entirely by accident) and people seemed to understand what it meant (either coincidentally or by context).


It certainly is still a made-up word. It is gibberish, nonsense. Regardless off your view on what its definition should be and no matter how many of your friends want to act smart by pretending to know words they're unfamiliar with it is still just a meaningless word that was made up for The Simpsons.


It is still a made-up word, but it is not meaningless. Just because a word is made-up does not prevent it from having meaning. See "Jabberwocky" (conveniently posted above) for some great examples of this; also, see http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cromulent for a definition of the "meaningless" word.


Although the word is slang as noted in that link, I saw no reference to word being meaningless. Also, in order fro any word to become part of the English language, it merely needs to be in English literature for 3-5 years if I am not mistaken and since this came to us since 1996 and is still known and used, and has definition; it can be said that it indeed is part of the English language, slang or not. Ain't it :P

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-31 00:02 • by MrBawn (unregistered)
129639 in reply to 129520
Sheb:
uburbulous is a perfectly cromulent word.


Haha, love the Simpsons reference...


Brevity is... wit.

Ok, that's maybe a little more obscure. Sign gag from season 3. Still...

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-31 04:25 • by icelava
129643 in reply to 129507
Sheb:
Overly uburbulous words will klologe readers if they have deblionic vocabularies


Come on! Those aren't even real words anymore. You're just making shit up now.

They are perfectly cromulent in this context.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-31 07:06 • by Olius
129646 in reply to 129591
Real the is WTF not point the getting to.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-31 16:33 • by Thr Crafty Sod (unregistered)
129657 in reply to 129547
Its even better if read in a German accent (Brillig is the clue)

Captcha -I am a robot!

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-31 17:28 • by dkf (unregistered)
129658 in reply to 129629
Michael G.:
Language evolves. If enough people start using cromulent as a word, then it becomes a legitimate word. You might not like it, but that's how this whole language thing works.

And, don't go starting on this "it's not in the dictionary" thing to which you might be tempted. Dictionaries reflect usage - they do not dictate what the language is.
That's not the whole story. What you report is correct for English as that is defined to be the language spoken by English speakers, and hence dictionaries can only ever track usage with it. But other languages have a committee to define what is part of the language and what is not (I'm looking at you, French!) and hence dictionaries can be truly definitive in those sorts of languages. Of course, that seems really strange to me, but then I'm an English-speaker so I would think that...

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-31 17:40 • by dkf (unregistered)
129659 in reply to 129592
AndrewB:
if (ch.IsIntrigid == true)
In the spirit of true code review, I think you really meant to write something more like this, so as to truly capture the battered soul of this place better:

if (ch.IsIntrigid === true & ch.IsIntrigid == FILE_NOT_FOUND) // Brillant!
AndrewB:
Sheesh.
Quite.

Captcha: sanitarium (hello, guy with long-sleeved coat!)

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-31 18:10 • by SurfMan (unregistered)
Outsourcing kills

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-31 18:53 • by Kemp (unregistered)
How has no-one noticed what the message is saying? Another program has associated itself with files that this program wants to use and it's warning the user that if it breaks anything then go to the other program and set the association back, otherwise don't worry.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-31 18:54 • by SerajewelKS
Oh yeah? Well YOU are a FESTIGIO! See? I can make up words too, sister!

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-03-31 23:23 • by noise (unregistered)
129668 in reply to 129547
joe.edwards@imaginuity.com:
`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
(This poem was so good that many of the nonsense words made their way into the dictionaries.)


they may not actually be nonsense words, just jumbled words. he says in one of the introductions to the snark the approximate algorithm :

"For instance, take the two words “fuming” and “furious.” Make up your mind that you will say both words... Now open your mouth and speak. If your thoughts incline ever so little towards “fuming,” you will say “fuming-furious;” if they turn, by even a hair’s breadth, towards “furious,” you will say “furious-fuming;” but if you have the rarest of gifts, a perfectly balanced mind, you will say “frumious.”

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-01 05:20 • by eloj (unregistered)
All words are "made up". Chocker of the day.

And for klopper's sake, stop using JPEG for MessageBoxExA's

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-01 08:27 • by berkus (unregistered)
It looks like a direct machine translation from Chinese...

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-01 14:33 • by MichaelWojcik
129674 in reply to 129551
sjs:
It certainly is still a made-up word.

Unlike all the English words that are found in nature.

sjs:
It is gibberish, nonsense.

By definition, it's not "nonsense" if it holds shared meaning for a speech community. That's precisely the condition that renders a word sensible. If you're going to be a pedant, do try to get the terminology correct.

sjs:
Regardless off your view on what its definition should be and no matter how many of your friends want to act smart by pretending to know words they're unfamiliar with it is still just a meaningless word that was made up for The Simpsons.


Which are worse, naive prescriptivists who think some magical authority defines the language, or naive descriptivists who think all usage is of equal value?

I think I prefer the descriptivists. At least they don't tend to adopt that insufferable tone of moral indignation.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-01 17:39 • by Binary (unregistered)
Engrish sucks... especially in I.T.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-02 07:53 • by Misha (unregistered)
129693 in reply to 129658
dkf:
Michael G.:
Language evolves. If enough people start using cromulent as a word, then it becomes a legitimate word. You might not like it, but that's how this whole language thing works.

And, don't go starting on this "it's not in the dictionary" thing to which you might be tempted. Dictionaries reflect usage - they do not dictate what the language is.
That's not the whole story. What you report is correct for English as that is defined to be the language spoken by English speakers, and hence dictionaries can only ever track usage with it. But other languages have a committee to define what is part of the language and what is not (I'm looking at you, French!) and hence dictionaries can be truly definitive in those sorts of languages. Of course, that seems really strange to me, but then I'm an English-speaker so I would think that...


French dictionaries which follow the language as laid down by the Académie française can indeed be "definitive", but in that case almost no one actually speaks French. The Academie can dictate what the language is till le vache come home, but that won't change usage one bit.

Anyway, English is full of French words, or words derived from French (and most other latinate languages and Greek and Arabic and, oh well just all the others too) so what's really wrong with "le weekend"?

Sorry, I shouldn't get so annoyed, it's not as if I even speak French.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-02 08:23 • by Err (unregistered)
129695 in reply to 129507


Overly uburbulous words will klologe readers if they have deblionic vocabularies

Come on! Those aren't even real words anymore. You're just making shit up now.

I'm sure he's anaspeptic, prasmotic - even compunctuous to have caused you such pericombobulation.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-02 08:33 • by Les (unregistered)
129696 in reply to 129511
vt_mruhlin:
I'm thinking about the time that MS Outlook told me "could not load the set of folders"


Hey, that's a relatively helpful and descriptive Outlook message. It usually just says

THE OPERATION FAILED

Which sounds disturbingly surgical....

CAPTCHA: sanitarium, which seems nicely appropriate

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-02 08:36 • by Alchymist
129698 in reply to 129657
Thr Crafty Sod:
Its even better if read in a German accent (Brillig is the clue)

Captcha -I am a robot!


Es brillig war
Die schliche Toeven
Wirten und wimmelten im Waben
Und alle muemsige Burgoven
Die Momenrath ausgraben

Apologies to German speakers, since I'm just typing this from memory

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-02 08:37 • by Alchymist
129699 in reply to 129507
Sheb:
Overly uburbulous words will klologe readers if they have deblionic vocabularies


Come on! Those aren't even real words anymore. You're just making shit up now.


I'm frasmotic, nay almost compunctuous, to have caused you such pericombobulations.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-02 09:29 • by Alchymist
129715 in reply to 129695
Err:


Overly uburbulous words will klologe readers if they have deblionic vocabularies

Come on! Those aren't even real words anymore. You're just making shit up now.

I'm sure he's anaspeptic, prasmotic - even compunctuous to have caused you such pericombobulation.


Oops! Didn't read quite far enough down before I replied - and Err remembered the quote better than I did as well.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-02 10:16 • by Sgt. Preston (unregistered)
129724 in reply to 129551
sjs:
kirchhoff:
Ms. Crobople:

uburbulous is a perfectly cromulent word.

While cromulent may have been a made-up word, it certainly isn't anymore. I've used it in conversation (entirely by accident) and people seemed to understand what it meant (either coincidentally or by context).

It certainly is still a made-up word. It is gibberish, nonsense. Regardless off your view on what its definition should be and no matter how many of your friends want to act smart by pretending to know words they're unfamiliar with it is still just a meaningless word that was made up for The Simpsons.

Urban Dictionary, which is more descriptive of current language than prescriptive of canonical language, is aware of "cromulent":
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cromulent

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-02 12:36 • by BenM (unregistered)
1) English hasn't just "borrowed" words. It has been known to chase small languages down dark alleys and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.

2) Please change your localization setting from "Engrish" to "English"

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-02 13:13 • by Confused (unregistered)
So, since cromulent is listed in both urbandictionary.com and dictionary.reference.com, I think it is now safe to say that cromulent is a perfectly cromulent word.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-02 13:54 • by Pseudonym (unregistered)
The real wtf is using JPEG compression on a screenshot when PNG probably compresses better and doesn't leave artifacts.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-02 15:31 • by Handerson (unregistered)
129824 in reply to 129551
I found a definition for cromulent at Dictionary.com
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cromulent+

Main Entry: cromulent
Part of Speech: adj
Definition: fine, acceptable
Usage: slang

Like Colbert says, the reality can be changed, just edit a page in Wikipedia.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-03 11:48 • by Fabian
Found problem more than one?

In communist China, problems find you more than one!

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-05 12:24 • by Hank (unregistered)

The intro was hilarious.

But it looks like Lisa Johnson, a makeup artist from Tennessee is plagiarising you here:

modelmayhem.com

????

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-10 15:28 • by Ones Self (unregistered)
131226 in reply to 129503
In Soviet Russia, error message pop you.

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-04-27 05:41 • by alanon (unregistered)
133917 in reply to 131226
$20 on korean engrish
(delete files from the folder perfectly)

Re: Brevity Is Important

2007-05-23 08:56 • by anna (unregistered)
138122 in reply to 133917
ayos!!

Re: Brevity Is Important

2008-01-08 07:50 • by Your Maw (unregistered)
I'm going to examine the veracity of these statements.....I shall return interfrastically.

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