Comment On Drive-By Architecture

Anne Wiggler has the pleasure of sitting directly across from a conference room. Although her location is the prime spot for scavenging lunch meeting leftovers, it does have its disadvantages. Managers, while waiting for the room to free up, will congregate around the door and hold a pre-meeting just in case anyone in the immediate vicinity was trying to write code and wasn't distracted enough already. Worse, some managers (especially the more jovial executive type) will notice Anne hard at work and stop by for a chat. [expand full text]
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Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 13:49 • by Nitehawk
The stick figures are a nice touch. It also appears that the [smart client] is communicating to the (Perf Stat) via morse code.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 13:51 • by Colin
I feel dumber.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 13:51 • by John Bigboote
57932 in reply to 57930
A box saying "Weber" has been labeled "n-tier."



"You see, a successful architecture is n-tiered. Just like a good grill allows you to cook on several levels."

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 13:52 • by Rain dog
So that's what VP's get paid to do....

That's totally awesome

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 13:52 • by ammoQ
suddenly it all makes sense

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 13:53 • by Michael
Is anybody here seeing a single piece of information in this ..... drawing?

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 13:54 • by marvin_rabbit
Not only that, but I hear they've got that internet thing on computers now!

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 13:55 • by John Bigboote
57938 in reply to 57936
Anonymous:
Is anybody here seeing a single piece of information in this ..... drawing?




It almost certainly took longer to draw than simply scrawling "I AM A MORON."

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 13:55 • by voodooc
The REAL wtf here is that they didn't use Visio.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 13:56 • by Suck My Lisp
That there is why executives get paid the big bucks.  They're smart enough to understand drawings like that.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 13:56 • by anonymoose
This is fantastic. Wish we had the audio to accompany this insanity.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 13:57 • by Jim
To be fair, drawings like that are just the visual component of the conversation they're being used to illustrate.  By nature they won't make much sense when separated from the spoken explanations and gestures being used.  I've drawn things when talking to colleagues that I had trouble puzzling out later on, but made perfect sense in context.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 13:57 • by haveworld
The diagram has been taken out of context.
You have to listen to what he said.
The diagram is just a presentation aid.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:03 • by Satanicpuppy
All I know is, if I try to release a version 1.1..1.21.1 of any piece of software, I want someone to slap me.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:04 • by Jon
  It's patently ridiculous to refer to this as what the fuck. In your overzealousness to ridicule, you seem to have forgotten that an actual conversation took place while this diagram was being drawn, the diagram was referred to, elaborated upon, crossed out for emphasis and probably abandoned halfway through once the more pressing visual analogies had been established. I myself have paper all over my desk covered in numbers and such drawings, which are of little use to me right now, but were immensely helpful during a conversation with a colleague.

While the VPs knowledge can be called into question, this diagram is not the basis for doing so.

I'm afraid you'll have to look elsewhere today for your self-aggrandization.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:05 • by WTF Batman
57947 in reply to 57943
haveworld:
The diagram has been taken out of context.
You have to listen to what he said.
The diagram is just a presentation aid.


Agreed. I just found it amusing that he's trying to explain the merits of .NET to a .NET developer! Heh.

What really makes my day is when someone will forget that I'm the one who previously enlightened THEM on a given subject, and will try to inform ME of the self-same concept -- usually distorting it in accordance with the illustration above.

Sometimes work really is fun.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:07 • by What the fag
57948 in reply to 57930
Nitehawk:
The stick figures are a nice touch. It also appears that the [smart client] is communicating to the (Perf Stat) via morse code.


Stick-figures are a part of the UML-specification.

And no, this is no joke.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:09 • by WTF Batman
57949 in reply to 57946
Anonymous:
It's patently ridiculous to refer to this as what the fuck. In your overzealousness to ridicule, you seem to have forgotten that an actual conversation took place while this diagram was being drawn, the diagram was referred to, elaborated upon, crossed out for emphasis and probably abandoned halfway through once the more pressing visual analogies had been established. I myself have paper all over my desk covered in numbers and such drawings, which are of little use to me right now, but were immensely helpful during a conversation with a colleague.

While the VPs knowledge can be called into question, this diagram is not the basis for doing so.

I'm afraid you'll have to look elsewhere today for your self-aggrandization.


Dude. I think you're taking this wayyy to seriously. People don't come here for code pointers and serious discussion (even though I have learned a few things from comments posted here). They come here to have a chuckle at break-time.

Obviously, you're right, but no one needs to be told that it's taken out of context. We've probably all made drawings like that for exactly the same purpose. So what? It's funny. Relax. Enjoy life.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:11 • by CSI Pat
This is clearly a crime scene. Just look to the right of the SmartClient [:P]

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:11 • by Ralph Malph
Umm, yeah, we are going to need you to come in on Saturday,  MMMKAY?

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:18 • by JS
I'd say that looks more like a diagram of VB, but what do I know.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:26 • by Gene Wirchenko
57957 in reply to 57948
Anonymous:
Nitehawk:
The stick figures are a nice touch. It also appears that the [smart client] is communicating to the (Perf Stat) via morse code.


Stick-figures are a part of the UML-specification.

And no, this is no joke.


Though UML is.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:27 • by pjsson
57959 in reply to 57948

Anonymous:

Stick-figures are a part of the UML-specification.
And no, this is no joke.


My former boss invented the stick-figures in UML. And this is also not a joke, I used to work for this guy. The difference between my boss and the one bothering Anne Wiggler is that mine got rich from his stick-figures when Rational bought his company.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:28 • by Your Name
57960 in reply to 57948
Anonymous:
Nitehawk:
The stick figures are a nice touch. It also appears that the [smart client] is communicating to the (Perf Stat) via morse code.


Stick-figures are a part of the UML-specification.

And no, this is no joke.


True enough. I wrote a Master's Thesis in CS with stick figures in it. No joke either.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:36 • by BlackTigerX
sure she meant, her kid did this

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:36 • by WTF Batman
57965 in reply to 57959
pjsson:

Anonymous:

Stick-figures are a part of the UML-specification.
And no, this is no joke.


My former boss invented the stick-figures in UML. And this is also not a joke, I used to work for this guy. The difference between my boss and the one bothering Anne Wiggler is that mine got rich from his stick-figures when Rational bought his company.



Ugh. The Rational mentioned in that article isn't the one responsible for the atrocity that is ClearCase, is it?

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:37 • by lamborghini
Joined/First post today. Just couldn't resist this one :D

I have worked with several managers and colleagues who thought that by drawing a cryptic "diagram" of god-knows-what-type they could hide their cluelessness. H*ll no. :D:D:D

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:37 • by Rob
57967 in reply to 57946
Anonymous:
It's patently ridiculous to refer to this as what the fuck. In your overzealousness to ridicule, you seem to have forgotten that an actual conversation took place while this diagram was being drawn, the diagram was referred to, elaborated upon, crossed out for emphasis and probably abandoned halfway through once the more pressing visual analogies had been established. I myself have paper all over my desk covered in numbers and such drawings, which are of little use to me right now, but were immensely helpful during a conversation with a colleague.

While the VPs knowledge can be called into question, this diagram is not the basis for doing so.

I'm afraid you'll have to look elsewhere today for your self-aggrandization.


It's FUNNY.  Laugh.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:39 • by pjsson
57968 in reply to 57965
WTF Batman:
pjsson:

My former boss invented the stick-figures in UML. And this is also not a joke, I used to work for this guy. The difference between my boss and the one bothering Anne Wiggler is that mine got rich from his stick-figures when Rational bought his company.



Ugh. The Rational mentioned in that article isn't the one responsible for the atrocity that is ClearCase, is it?


sure is, however it's not done by the team I used to work for so I'm innocent to that one.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:40 • by OneFactor
57970 in reply to 57965
WTF Batman:
pjsson:

Anonymous:

Stick-figures are a part of the UML-specification.
And no, this is no joke.


My former boss invented the stick-figures in UML. And this is also not a joke, I used to work for this guy. The difference between my boss and the one bothering Anne Wiggler is that mine got rich from his stick-figures when Rational bought his company.




Ugh. The Rational mentioned in that article isn't the one responsible for the atrocity that is ClearCase, is it?


I just hope this doesn't begin a whole line of UML WTF's...

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:42 • by BlackTigerX
57971 in reply to 57960

Anonymous:


True enough. I wrote a Master's Thesis in CS with stick figures in it. No joke either.


True enough... like in, barely true, that is almost false, but is not false, because is enough true?[:P]

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:45 • by WTF Batman
57972 in reply to 57968
pjsson:

sure is, however it's not done by the team I used to work for so I'm innocent to that one.


Heh - ok, then. I'll save my ire for the more deserving! :-)

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:49 • by ammoQ
57973 in reply to 57947
WTF Batman:


Agreed. I just found it amusing that he's trying to explain the merits of .NET to a .NET developer!





In the past years, ".net" meant two things for Microsoft. One is the
.net we developers know - VB.net, C#, IL and stuff. The technology some
people might call "Java meets Delphi".

On the other hand, for some time around 2001 or so, ".net" was the allround buzzword at Microsoft - the all-including vision of interconnected systems, with "Passport", "Hailstorm" etc.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:50 • by mercwrought


Apparently me and my associates are the only ones who see it
this is devious perpetual motion machine.



  1. people
    enter the “Smart client”
  2. People
    are ground into a pile of goo.
  3. Close
    up to show that this is made of people
  4. Goo is
    sent to be food for upside-down beholders.
  5. upside-down
    beholder (D&D) uses psionic powers to turn the crank for the “version  treadmill”
  6. Crank
    for “version treadmill” turns to power “Smart Client”
  7. “Smart
    client” is powered to begin process again


We figure it’s called “Smart Client” because it is what
happens to clients who begin questioning the programming practices.



Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:55 • by xcor057
57977 in reply to 57942

The real WTF here is trying to be fair.  Its a WTF period.


I guess the manager just heard of the phrase 'abstraction layer'.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 14:57 • by xcor057
57978 in reply to 57942

 


Again, that is


Anonymous:
To be fair, drawings like that are just the visual component of the conversation they're being used to illustrate.  By nature they won't make much sense when separated from the spoken explanations and gestures being used.  I've drawn things when talking to colleagues that I had trouble puzzling out later on, but made perfect sense in context.


The real WTF here is trying to be fair.  Its a WTF period.


I guess the manager just heard of the phrase 'abstraction layer'.


 

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 15:00 • by Disgruntled DBA
57979 in reply to 57977
Hey, this looks suspiciously like some of the JFK assassination conspiracy theories...If you hold it up to a mirror, you get a clear picture of Dealy Plaza and the grassy knoll......

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 15:01 • by Anonymoose
57980 in reply to 57941
Anonymoose:
This is fantastic. Wish we had the audio to accompany this insanity.




Hey, get your own username, I had this one first!



I dunno, the audio might cause me to dig sharpened pencils into my eardrums....



Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 15:03 • by Miki Watts
57981 in reply to 57978
That looks like an angry snowman at the bottom...

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 15:04 • by Gene Wirchenko
57982 in reply to 57978
Anonymous:
Again, that is

Anonymous:
To be fair, drawings like that are just the visual component of the conversation they're being used to illustrate.  By nature they won't make much sense when separated from the spoken explanations and gestures being used.  I've drawn things when talking to colleagues that I had trouble puzzling out later on, but made perfect sense in context.


The real WTF here is trying to be fair.  Its a WTF period.



I guess the manager just heard of the phrase 'abstraction layer'.

And read "abstraction" as "abstract"?

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko


Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 15:05 • by dshiznit
Is that dude in the center sleeping behind his desk, or is he dead?

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 15:06 • by GoatCheez
I truly wonder if any managers (other than the one who write this) would actually be able to understand this garbage. I also wonder if this manager felt any sort of feeling of accomplishment from scribbling out this piece of crap. Why do managers get paid again? What purpose do they serve? Why do they get paid MORE? *sigh*.... it may start to sound like my catch phrase... but THIS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD TODAY!

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 15:07 • by jvancil
57985 in reply to 57942

Anonymous:
To be fair, drawings like that are just the visual component of the conversation they're being used to illustrate.  By nature they won't make much sense when separated from the spoken explanations and gestures being used.  I've drawn things when talking to colleagues that I had trouble puzzling out later on, but made perfect sense in context.


It was obviously created by an automated Drawing Creation Tool...

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 15:10 • by Sean
57986 in reply to 57946
Jon:
It's patently ridiculous to refer to this as what the fuck. In your overzealousness to ridicule, you seem to have forgotten that an actual conversation took place while this diagram was being drawn, the diagram was referred to, elaborated upon, crossed out for emphasis and probably abandoned halfway through once the more pressing visual analogies had been established. I myself have paper all over my desk covered in numbers and such drawings, which are of little use to me right now, but were immensely helpful during a conversation with a colleague.

While the VPs knowledge can be called into question, this diagram is not the basis for doing so.

I'm afraid you'll have to look elsewhere today for your self-aggrandization.


Ladies and gentlemen... I believe we've located the artist.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 15:15 • by Andrew O
57987 in reply to 57944
Ohhh, I didn't see the "ver" in the drawing and thought the 1.1..1.21.1 was a stream (with 0s as '.'s). Now I'm a lot less worried about that 2...

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 15:21 • by Runtime Error
57988 in reply to 57951
Anonymous:
This is clearly a crime scene. Just look to the right of the SmartClient [:P]




Oh my god, there is a sniper in the Weber building.  Man down, man down.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 15:22 • by John Hensley
In fairness to Bill, the WTF doesn't say anywhere that Anne is a .net
developer (using VS.NET doesn't mean squat), and there's a surprising
number of intelligent programmers (e.g. Joel Spolsky) who at some point
thought they had .net all figured out but really had no clue.



Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 15:23 • by brian
57990 in reply to 57987
As most drawings in this context are meant to be aids to the verbal conversation taking place, I'm sure the conversation was to die for.

Horriffic Accident

2006-01-26 15:27 • by marvin_rabbit
I'm looking at the circle (desk?) at the very top center.  I think the stick figure has been decapitated!

Probably by a rampant N-tier.  You gotta watch out for those.

Re: Drive-By Architecture

2006-01-26 15:30 • by lowmagnet
57992 in reply to 57947
WTF Batman:
Agreed. I just found it amusing that he's trying to explain the merits of .NET to a .NET developer! Heh.


I thought the exact same thing as I read the wtf. It was more about how managers sometimes do annoying things, and sometimes explain things that don't need explaining.
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