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So if zero takes you to the ground floor, where does 1 take you? The 2nd floor?

Where's the wtf for the first one?

Captcha: nulla (i think you're right)

In the UK at least the 1st floor is above the ground floor.

because thats how we roll

Bitch:

Where's the wtf for the first one?

Captcha: nulla (i think you're right)

Are you retarded or trolling? -1 for the basement and you don't see the wtf? I know I know, lots of European places use 0 for ground floor instead of 1, its not our fault you guys are mildly retarded.

Press -1 to change it on your mind

Yes, I can see how the UK is so bad at math with all those crazy measurement systems

US First Floor = UK Ground Floor
US Second Floor = UK First Floor

Programmers should at least appreciate the logic behind the elevator one (zero-based floors). But I'm not sure whether that's the WTF here (at least I don't think it's a failure). Maybe that there's no -1 button?

Presumably to the first floor - the one above the ground floor in every country except America.

Ground Floor:

So if zero takes you to the ground floor, where does 1 take you? The 2nd floor?

Yes. As you can see a programmer obviously designed this. And all us programming folk know that 0 IS the first integer.

Press +0.5 for Mezzanine.

Actually, first floor is above ground floor pretty much everywhere except USA :-P

Now who's the weirdo?

OK if you limeys want to call your first floor 0 I'll allow it. But then wouldn't the basement be -0?

rd:

Press +0.5 for Mezzanine.

Choose your own elevator music?

amischiefr:

Bitch:

Where's the wtf for the first one?

Captcha: nulla (i think you're right)

Are you retarded or trolling? -1 for the basement and you don't see the wtf? I know I know, lots of European places use 0 for ground floor instead of 1, its not our fault you guys are mildly retarded.

Neither. We (the rest of the world) just dont like your crazy american floor labeling standards.

Actually, first floor is above ground floor pretty much everywhere except USA :-P

Now who's the weirdo?

When you say this, do you not include Canada, some Eastern Europe countries, Russia, Scandinavia, China, Japan and Taiwan on purpose or do you have no idea what you're talking about?

K&T:

Actually, first floor is above ground floor pretty much everywhere except USA :-P

Now who's the weirdo?

When you say this, do you not include Canada, some Eastern Europe countries, Russia, Scandinavia, China, Japan and Taiwan on purpose or do you have no idea what you're talking about?

In Soviet Russia ground floor number you!

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These lift controls are very popular in Europe. I guess it's because you can install them cheaply in a building with any number of floors.

He was obviously referring to the civilised world.

Eric L:

Yes, I can see how the UK is so bad at math with all those crazy measurement systems

So the number "1" is "0" in metric? No wonder it never caught on here in the US!

Presumably to the first floor - the one above the ground floor in every country except America.

Every country except America. And Russia. And most of Scandinavia. And China and Japan. But other than that, no one uses the American system!

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Presumably to the first floor - the one above the ground floor in every country except America.

O RLY? Been to, say, Sweden lately? Or how about Denmark? Or anywhere?

rd:

Press +0.5 for Mezzanine.

and -0.5 for the Podium block

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You're in fine formm today, Alex. (But we love you anyway!)

I will take the stairs, thank you.

Alex:

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Wow! I didn't know my imagination was that strong... it can affect even my RSS reader.

Now that I know that I can do it, I'll try to change the cables on my mind.

levi_h:

Programmers should at least appreciate the logic behind the elevator one (zero-based floors). But I'm not sure whether that's the WTF here (at least I don't think it's a failure). Maybe that there's no -1 button?

There is a - button and a big button at the bottom that I think is enter. So i guess you'd press -, 1, enter

Actually, it's mostly just Europe (and Quebec... weirdos) that use the "1st floor is the floor above ground" system. North America (except Quebec. Seriously, WTF guys?), Russia and Asia use the "ground floor is first floor" system. I think Australia also uses British terms. Hong Kong appears to be split 50/50.
That just leaves South America and Africa as the deciding votes. I wasn't able to find any information on how they number their floors.

Bob:

There is a - button and a big button at the bottom that I think is enter.

That big button would be the one with a picture of a wheelchair on it?

And if I press 2 * 3 {wheelchair} does that take me to the 6th floor (7th if in the UK)?

Carl T:

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Presumably to the first floor - the one above the ground floor in every country except America.

O RLY? Been to, say, Sweden lately? Or how about Denmark? Or anywhere?

lern2read.

Carl T says the first floor is the one above the ground floor in a lot of countries (not quite as many as he states, but still a considerable number). You then say he's wrong, giving Danish as an example, where the first floor (første sal) is indeed the one above the ground floor (stueetage).

Wizard Stan:

Actually, it's mostly just Europe (and Quebec... weirdos) that use the "1st floor is the floor above ground" system. North America (except Quebec. Seriously, WTF guys?), Russia and Asia use the "ground floor is first floor" system. I think Australia also uses British terms. Hong Kong appears to be split 50/50.
That just leaves South America and Africa as the deciding votes. I wasn't able to find any information on how they number their floors.

In South America we use the smart system too. Above the ground floor there's the first floor. I believe Africa must be the same.

Hey America what's up with the 1-based floor numbering? Do you base your numbering system on roman numerals? Not the smartest system today eh?

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Bob:

There is a - button and a big button at the bottom that I think is enter.

That big button would be the one with a picture of a wheelchair on it?

And if I press 2 * 3 {wheelchair} does that take me to the 6th floor (7th if in the UK)?

Where's the square root symbol in case a mathematician comes along and wants to go the the 4^(1/2) floor?

What about Pi?

I have always stated it as a Ponderable, why an elevator in a two-story building (like many American shopping malls) has two buttons inside the compartment (one for up and one for down).
When you enter such an elevator you have NO CHOICE where you will go. I propose there be NO BUTTONS (maybe just one that says, "GO")

snoofle:

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Bob:

There is a - button and a big button at the bottom that I think is enter.

That big button would be the one with a picture of a wheelchair on it?

And if I press 2 * 3 {wheelchair} does that take me to the 6th floor (7th if in the UK)?

Where's the square root symbol in case a mathematician comes along and wants to go the the 4^(1/2) floor?

What about Pi?

well, seeing as floors are discrete integers, I don't think an irrational number, such as pi, would be very useful...

Uh, so if the building only has 5 floors, what happens if I enter 9?

Do I finally get to meet God? :o

I have one of those keypads where I work, and it's exactly that: a standard keypad. You press '-' and '1' to go to the first basement, '1' '0' for the tenth floor, etc (bonus points: '*' yields -1, as a shortcut). The only WTF is that the mezzanine between 0 and 1 is floor 100 :): And yes, at least in Portugal we use zero = ground for our floor denominations too.

Thats funny because here where i live, in Denmark, we do actually call it 'stueetage' (ground floor) and then first floor. But perhaps its more a local thing than a national thing.

ThisIsMe:

Uh, so if the building only has 5 floors, what happens if I enter 9?

Do I finally get to meet God? :o

I suppose if you enter -666 you end up going somewhere else?
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Now that you mentioned it, WTF does a wheelchair button do? Does it expand the previously small elevator so that a wheelchair can fit inside?

amischiefr:

I know I know, lots of European places use 0 for ground floor instead of 1, its not our fault you guys are mildly retarded.

Retarded are those who assume that every european country is english speaking. In some other languages the elevator buttons don't show the FLOOR number, but a number of "upstairs", thus 0 is the ground floor and 1 the one above it. Some languages even have two different words, one for "floor" and one for "upstairs".

Btw TRWTF is that it's a numpad instead of one number per floor.

Oh, and also, those keypads are outside the elevators, and the choice of which elevator will answer your request is decided in software, and reported on the little LCD above. The real WTF is that, for such a sophisticated system, the distribution software is particularly daft.

The wheelchair button probably forces the assignment to pick a "wheelchair-friendly" elevator in case you have different sizes (never had to use it).

Smash King:

In South America we use the smart system too. Above the ground floor there's the first floor. I believe Africa must be the same.

Hey America what's up with the 1-based floor numbering? Do you base your numbering system on roman numerals? Not the smartest system today eh?

It's actually quite intuitive. Building X has 3 floors. We count them: 1 floor, 2 floor, 3 floors! AH AH AH!
With the floor on the ground, the one we point to and count "1", that's the first floor. The one above that, we point to and say "2"; that's the second floor. We then point one higher, and say "3", the third floor.
I'm sure someone can equally justify the "ground zero" system: it's just two ways of thinking.
But please stop referring to it as the American system. The point I'm trying to make is that significantly more countries than just the US use it, and it's quite insulting to be casually lumped in with them.

snoofle:

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And if I press 2 * 3 {wheelchair} does that take me to the 6th floor (7th if in the UK)?

Where's the square root symbol in case a mathematician comes along and wants to go the the 4^(1/2) floor?

What about Pi?

(Elevator brain) Hmmm, I'm sure pi is around here somewhere... up... down... up... down... infinite shudder...

Bob:

levi_h:

Programmers should at least appreciate the logic behind the elevator one (zero-based floors). But I'm not sure whether that's the WTF here (at least I don't think it's a failure). Maybe that there's no -1 button?

There is a - button and a big button at the bottom that I think is enter. So i guess you'd press -, 1, enter

Yes, that's my guess as well [though you might want to take a better look at that 'enter' button :)]. My point was: where's the WTF? The only one I can think of is the wording on the note, that says you should be able to press a single button. (So that would make a /very/ minor WTF.)

Anyway, the fact that the elevator actually needs a printed instruction shows that controlling it is apparently not intuitive enough, I'll give Alex that.

Ground Floor:

OK if you limeys want to call your first floor 0 I'll allow it. But then wouldn't the basement be -0?

Nah, we think in Two's complement, not One's complement =P

amischiefr:

Bitch:

Where's the wtf for the first one?

Captcha: nulla (i think you're right)

Are you retarded or trolling? -1 for the basement and you don't see the wtf? I know I know, lots of European places use 0 for ground floor instead of 1, its not our fault you guys are mildly retarded.

... we also index arrays starting from 0 - I knew we were wrong.