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Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:07 • by fjf (unregistered)
I hate commenting.

And I don't know how to click Submit.

GPS?

2010-08-06 09:10 • by Slicerwizard (unregistered)
It doesn't look like a GPS. Hell, it doesn't even look like a GPSr.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:12 • by caffeine (unregistered)
I wonder if they tried
Answer1
Answer2

Fair chance it might just work!

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:15 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
I'm pretty sure that most of HP's business level printers allow you to put any status message on the display that you want. Not a WTF and the message wasn't even that funny. The best printer status message I've seen in the wild:
College Printer:
I fucked the scanner and now my children are in Taipei instead of my tray!

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:20 • by The Nerve (unregistered)
Oh, great. So I tried dozens of times to link back to an article on this site and it gets marked as spam. An online dating advertisement has no problem getting on here though.

Must be all the people posting their CAPTCHAs.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:22 • by a spam bot (unregistered)
316754 in reply to 316752
CAPTCHA: venio

Re: Free online dating at Matchormingle.com

2010-08-06 09:22 • by caffeine (unregistered)
matt:
our research specialists whos combine years of research total
over 30 years of relationship study.


They employed 360 people for a month... unfortunately they only have a combined total of one months study of the english language.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:26 • by Bus Logic (unregistered)
Is that an OS/X copy dialog (guessing here but it has the traditional OS/X look)? Do they really refer to data as "stuff"? This is exactly why I hate Macs, the damn things are made for children and retards. "So like, you want me to copy this stuff over to that thingy where your gear gets stored"? No you stupid fucking mac, I want copy a damn file. You're a computer FFS, you should at least have the technical competence to refer to data in slightly more descriptive terms than "stuff".

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:31 • by anon (unregistered)
TRWTF is ESXi right?

Also, I hate people who post their CAPTCHAs, but I just got facilisi for about the 100th time, which seems somewhat ineffective for a CAPTCHA system.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:31 • by Raptor (unregistered)
Ditto on the HP Printer status message not being a WTF. It's easy to change the ready message on just about any commercial HP printer if you know what you're doing and mess with coworkers... not that I'd know.




...you'd be amazed at the number of coworkers who claim a laser jet is running slow because it has a "Incoming Fax". Then again, it helped me form a good picture of where people fit in in the company.

...likewise, thankfully no one called the police when one of the printers reported a radiation leak.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:33 • by Steve (unregistered)
316761 in reply to 316752
The Nerve:
Oh, great. So I tried dozens of times to link back to an article on this site and it gets marked as spam. An online dating advertisement has no problem getting on here though.

Must be all the people posting their CAPTCHAs.

The captcha text is passed in on the querystring when it's retrieved, so any competent spambot can decode it directly from the URL with no further information required. For example, this is the querystring for "usitas":

CaptchaImage.aspx?w=250&h=50&t=WSxfLEUsWCxNLF8s

Obviously 't' is the text parameter. Now, bonus marks will be awarded if you can figure out the encoding (yes, it is possible). Any ideas?

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:33 • by OMG (unregistered)
316762 in reply to 316757
It does appear to be running on OSX but no, it's an application dialog; I don't recognize the little truck, but that's probably the clue as to what app it is. OSX dialogs most definitely don't refer to "Your Stuff".

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:34 • by jonsjava
316763 in reply to 316757
oops. proper skark below

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:35 • by jonsjava
316764 in reply to 316757
Bus Logic:
Is that an OS/X copy dialog (guessing here but it has the traditional OS/X look)? Do they really refer to data as "stuff"? This is exactly why I hate Macs, the damn things are made for children and retards. "So like, you want me to copy this stuff over to that thingy where your gear gets stored"? No you stupid fucking mac, I want copy a damn file. You're a computer FFS, you should at least have the technical competence to refer to data in slightly more descriptive terms than "stuff".

I like the stuff you put there. Stuff.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:36 • by Bobbo (unregistered)
316765 in reply to 316757
Bus Logic:
Is that an OS/X copy dialog (guessing here but it has the traditional OS/X look)? Do they really refer to data as "stuff"? This is exactly why I hate Macs, the damn things are made for children and retards. "So like, you want me to copy this stuff over to that thingy where your gear gets stored"? No you stupid fucking mac, I want copy a damn file. You're a computer FFS, you should at least have the technical competence to refer to data in slightly more descriptive terms than "stuff".


Nice attempt at flame-baiting, but try harder next time.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:39 • by caffeine (unregistered)
316766 in reply to 316762
OMG:
It does appear to be running on OSX but no, it's an application dialog; I don't recognize the little truck, but that's probably the clue as to what app it is. OSX dialogs most definitely don't refer to "Your Stuff".


It's Transmit - a Mac FTP app.

http://panic.com/transmit/

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:40 • by The MAZZTer
Whenever I shut down my work computer with Excel 2007 running, I get "Microsoft Excel cannot quit."

I have to click OK and close it myself.

And then there's this error (I was able to screencap this one and got it word for word):

"A document with the name 'whatever.xls' is already open. You cannot open two documents with the same name, even if the documents are in different folders.
To open the second document, either close the document that's currently open, or rename one of the documents."

Umm no thanks, I'll just use OpenOffice instead.

Seriously try it, Excel 2007. Open a document, then open another document with the same name from a different folder, in the same window (opening it in a new Excel 2007 window will work). Programs written in 20XX shouldn't be shipping with stuff like that anymore.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:41 • by HopelessIntern (unregistered)
The android one is good. One thing I love about android (at least the two ive had) is that when the battery really is low, and it suggests you plug it in again, it gives two options: OK, and Why?
I like being given the ability to question my orders/suggestions.

As for the HP printer, yes that is a custom message. Our one usually just says the location of the printer, but it is easy to change.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:41 • by Bus Logic (unregistered)
316769 in reply to 316762
OMG:
It does appear to be running on OSX but no, it's an application dialog; I don't recognize the little truck, but that's probably the clue as to what app it is. OSX dialogs most definitely don't refer to "Your Stuff".

Ah, thanks, I'm glad to hear that. For a minute I was worried they might refer to the mouse as the "pointy thing" and the hard drive as the "whirry stuff holder". Dumbing down computers is only a good thing for the dumb. For the rest of us it's a pain in the ass.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:41 • by bl@h (unregistered)
Sorry but there is no comment at this location.


Captcha: dolor -> If I had a dolor for every time.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:46 • by Anonymous Coward (unregistered)
316772 in reply to 316769
We should get rid of wheelchair ramps too.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:48 • by BeepDog
Error: UI doesn't know how to display WTF.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:50 • by Remy Porter
316775 in reply to 316769
Let me get my asbestos suit on here... there we are.

I actually switched to Mac because Windows was too dumbed down. Yes, I could have installed Cygwin and Perl and Ruby and all of the other tools I wanted on Windows. But on OSX they were built in. Also, DTrace. DTrace is full of win and debugging. Plus, for OSX, I can actually play with the kernel code. Not that I would, because I'm not a masochist, but knowing that I can makes me happy.

//Hey, Apple, while you're stealing ZFS and DTrace from Solaris, would you mind adapting Zones? That'd be great.
//I am not the sort of person that thinks OSX is the best OS ever.
//That honor goes to VMS.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:53 • by Lefty Middlewright (unregistered)
316776 in reply to 316757
Let's see, you don't know what a standard dialog box is, but you hate the OS. There's a name for people like that, what is it? Right here on the tip of my tongue, wait, no, don't tell me...

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:54 • by Lefty Middlewright (unregistered)
316777 in reply to 316775
Upvoted for VMS. Oops wrong site.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 09:58 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
316778 in reply to 316749
Anonymous:
I'm pretty sure that most of HP's business level printers allow you to put any status message on the display that you want. Not a WTF and the message wasn't even that funny. The best printer status message I've seen in the wild:
College Printer:
I fucked the scanner and now my children are in Taipei instead of my tray!


I just realised I messed up the quote. It was actually:
College Printer:
I just fucked the fax machine and now my children are in Taipei instead of my tray!


...fax machine, hence the "my children are in Taipei".

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 10:03 • by The Nerve (unregistered)
316779 in reply to 316775
Remy Porter:
Let me get my asbestos suit on here... there we are.

I actually switched to Mac because Windows was too dumbed down. Yes, I could have installed Cygwin and Perl and Ruby and all of the other tools I wanted on Windows. But on OSX they were built in. Also, DTrace. DTrace is full of win and debugging. Plus, for OSX, I can actually play with the kernel code. Not that I would, because I'm not a masochist, but knowing that I can makes me happy.

//Hey, Apple, while you're stealing ZFS and DTrace from Solaris, would you mind adapting Zones? That'd be great.
//I am not the sort of person that thinks OSX is the best OS ever.
//That honor goes to VMS.


Unfortunately, Apple ripped off BSD, which ripped off these tools from Linux, which is not dumbed down at all, runs on reasonably-priced hardware, and doesn't have an insecure, egomaniac, control freak with his hands in every pot. Even the rubber-bumper-Ubuntu version blows OSX out of the water, although in 10.04 Mark Shuttleworth may be admitting he has a crush on Steve Jobs

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 10:03 • by anon (unregistered)
Uh, anyone wonder why he's looking for scenic views on a gps while standing right there? It's tantamount to querying the weather while standing outside.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 10:04 • by Bus Logic (unregistered)
316781 in reply to 316775
Remy Porter:
Let me get my asbestos suit on here... there we are.

I actually switched to Mac because Windows was too dumbed down. Yes, I could have installed Cygwin and Perl and Ruby and all of the other tools I wanted on Windows. But on OSX they were built in. Also, DTrace. DTrace is full of win and debugging. Plus, for OSX, I can actually play with the kernel code. Not that I would, because I'm not a masochist, but knowing that I can makes me happy.

//Hey, Apple, while you're stealing ZFS and DTrace from Solaris, would you mind adapting Zones? That'd be great.
//I am not the sort of person that thinks OSX is the best OS ever.
//That honor goes to VMS.


For all that stuff I'm perfectly happy running Linux through VMWare but thanks for your comment, you raise a good point.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 10:08 • by Lefty Middlewright (unregistered)
316782 in reply to 316779
The Nerve:
Remy Porter:
Let me get my asbestos suit on here... there we are.

I actually switched to Mac because Windows was too dumbed down. Yes, I could have installed Cygwin and Perl and Ruby and all of the other tools I wanted on Windows. But on OSX they were built in. Also, DTrace. DTrace is full of win and debugging. Plus, for OSX, I can actually play with the kernel code. Not that I would, because I'm not a masochist, but knowing that I can makes me happy.

//Hey, Apple, while you're stealing ZFS and DTrace from Solaris, would you mind adapting Zones? That'd be great.
//I am not the sort of person that thinks OSX is the best OS ever.
//That honor goes to VMS.


Unfortunately, Apple ripped off BSD, which ripped off these tools from Linux, which is not dumbed down at all, runs on reasonably-priced hardware, and doesn't have an insecure, egomaniac, control freak with his hands in every pot. Even the rubber-bumper-Ubuntu version blows OSX out of the water, although in 10.04 Mark Shuttleworth may be admitting he has a crush on Steve Jobs


Yeah! And the mouses only have one button!

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 10:13 • by The Nerve (unregistered)
316784 in reply to 316782
Lefty Middlewright:
The Nerve:
Remy Porter:
Let me get my asbestos suit on here... there we are.

I actually switched to Mac because Windows was too dumbed down. Yes, I could have installed Cygwin and Perl and Ruby and all of the other tools I wanted on Windows. But on OSX they were built in. Also, DTrace. DTrace is full of win and debugging. Plus, for OSX, I can actually play with the kernel code. Not that I would, because I'm not a masochist, but knowing that I can makes me happy.

//Hey, Apple, while you're stealing ZFS and DTrace from Solaris, would you mind adapting Zones? That'd be great.
//I am not the sort of person that thinks OSX is the best OS ever.
//That honor goes to VMS.


Unfortunately, Apple ripped off BSD, which ripped off these tools from Linux, which is not dumbed down at all, runs on reasonably-priced hardware, and doesn't have an insecure, egomaniac, control freak with his hands in every pot. Even the rubber-bumper-Ubuntu version blows OSX out of the water, although in 10.04 Mark Shuttleworth may be admitting he has a crush on Steve Jobs


Yeah! And the mouses only have one button!


Ok, I was a bit harsh and I think I missed my point. The ultimate point was that NOT that a "light user" should use Linux (although I think it's possible with Ubuntu, there's still some paper-cuts that are frustrating and non-intuitive). My real point was that moving to Apple because of the availability of the tools you mentioned and the stated reason that it is less dumbed-down than Windows is an all-caps WTF.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 10:20 • by sadwings (unregistered)
316785 in reply to 316778
Anonymous:


I just realised I messed up the quote. It was actually:
College Printer:
I just fucked the fax machine and now my children are in Taipei instead of my tray!


...fax machine, hence the "my children are in Taipei".


Neither one was amusing.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 10:33 • by Anon (unregistered)
316787 in reply to 316749
Anonymous:
I'm pretty sure that most of HP's business level printers allow you to put any status message on the display that you want. Not a WTF and the message wasn't even that funny. The best printer status message I've seen in the wild:
College Printer:
I fucked the scanner and now my children are in Taipei instead of my tray!


Indeed. And it's not just business-level printers. I had some fun messing with some German nationals in my section when I was stationed over there. I set the message to be "Too much toner." And watched as they pulled out the toner cartridge, shook it around, blew out the machine with canned air, and other "try me first" technical solutions.

It was quite hilarious. Link to instructions:
http://www.ancientpond.com/ljshen.html

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 10:34 • by The Nerve (unregistered)
316788 in reply to 316785
sadwings:
Anonymous:


I just realised I messed up the quote. It was actually:
College Printer:
I just fucked the fax machine and now my children are in Taipei instead of my tray!


...fax machine, hence the "my children are in Taipei".


Neither one was amusing.


Sure it was. He used the "F-bomb", which is teh kewlest. If only newspapers and radio stations would start using this adjective more prolifically, we would be a pinnacle of light to the world.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 10:35 • by Remy Porter
316789 in reply to 316784
The Nerve:
Even the rubber-bumper-Ubuntu version blows OSX out of the water,


Ubuntu isn't even half as good as Haiku. I tried to like it, I really did. The package manager ranks as one of the worst abominations ever layered on top of apt I've ever seen. And the repository layout- well, I have nothing polite to say about it.

Also, it's unfair to say that OSX ripped off BSD- OSX is BSD. It's not a rip-off, any more than Ubuntu is a rip-off of Debian. Take the same base, fork it in a different direction. Darwin is a pretty handy little distro- I'm just miffed that I can't get jails to work quite right on it (not that I've put much effort into it).

The Nerve:
(although I think it's possible with Ubuntu, there's still some paper-cuts that are frustrating and non-intuitive). My real point was that moving to Apple because of the availability of the tools you mentioned and the stated reason that it is less dumbed-down than Windows is an all-caps WTF.


"Regular" users aren't going to use Ubuntu until they drop the whole Universe/Multiverse garbage from the package manager. Because regular users don't care about the distinction. Richard Stallman is pretty much the only person that cares about the distinction.

And yes, OSX is less dumbed down that Windows. I can inject debugging code into nearly any process with tools distributed with the OS. You can't even do that with Visual Studio on Windows. It's hard to explain how awesome DTrace actually is if you're trying to profile some code.

The thing is: Windows pretty much locks you out of doing anything dangerous with your computer. They've removed the spinning blades of death. On OSX, they've simply covered the spinning blades of death with some nice wallpaper, but if you know that, you can still jam your hand in there to see what happens.

And brining this back to the really important part: VMS had the greatest filesystem ever devised on any operating system. If I didn't need an Alpha to get OpenVMS running, I'd switch in a second.

//Although Apple's insistence that their media layer shouldn't support DTrace is... GRRRRR.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 10:37 • by Someone You Know
316790 in reply to 316767
The MAZZTer:

And then there's this error (I was able to screencap this one and got it word for word):

"A document with the name 'whatever.xls' is already open. You cannot open two documents with the same name, even if the documents are in different folders.
To open the second document, either close the document that's currently open, or rename one of the documents."

Umm no thanks, I'll just use OpenOffice instead.

Seriously try it, Excel 2007. Open a document, then open another document with the same name from a different folder, in the same window (opening it in a new Excel 2007 window will work). Programs written in 20XX shouldn't be shipping with stuff like that anymore.


I've often had this problem in Excel 2003. I was really hoping it had been fixed in newer versions. Apparently not.

This is particularly bothersome because none of the other Office applications seem to have this problem. I always figured it was related to Excel 2003's bizarro-world taskbar buttons, where each open file has its own taskbar button, even if they're all displayed in the same container window.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 10:43 • by Captcha (unregistered)
316792 in reply to 316759
anon:
TRWTF is ESXi right?

Also, I hate people who post their CAPTCHAs, but I just got facilisi for about the 100th time, which seems somewhat ineffective for a CAPTCHA system.
captcha: aptent

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 10:46 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
316793 in reply to 316785
sadwings:
Anonymous:


I just realised I messed up the quote. It was actually:
College Printer:
I just fucked the fax machine and now my children are in Taipei instead of my tray!


...fax machine, hence the "my children are in Taipei".


Neither one was amusing.

Frankly I agree. But as the quote indicated, this was a college printer and most college students probably don't have your mature sense of humour (or lack thereof, as the case may be).

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 10:52 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
316794 in reply to 316790
Someone You Know:
The MAZZTer:
"A document with the name 'whatever.xls' is already open. You cannot open two documents with the same name, even if the documents are in different folders.
To open the second document, either close the document that's currently open, or rename one of the documents."

I've often had this problem in Excel 2003. I was really hoping it had been fixed in newer versions. Apparently not.

This is particularly bothersome because none of the other Office applications seem to have this problem. I always figured it was related to Excel 2003's bizarro-world taskbar buttons, where each open file has its own taskbar button, even if they're all displayed in the same container window.

Nope, this bit of legacy nonsense is specifically to support VBA. If you look at how you reference an open file in VBA you'll see the problem - it is referenced by name instead of path, so two files with the same name in different locations cannot be distinguished between. And you might as well stop waiting for a fix because they will never fix it. As far as MS is concerned it is by design and is necessary to support legacy VBA apps.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 10:55 • by Cbuttius
If they told you what the questions are, it would make it too easy for an unauthorised person to be able to guess the answers and thus get access to your account.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 10:59 • by m a t t
316797 in reply to 316768
HopelessIntern:
The android one is good. One thing I love about android (at least the two ive had) is that when the battery really is low, and it suggests you plug it in again, it gives two options: OK, and Why?
I like being given the ability to question my orders/suggestions.


Android phones have two power supplies. I know this because mine will proudly announce that it's battery level is < 0% and I should really plug it in. Either that or it is powered by it's own brilliance.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 11:02 • by dave (unregistered)
316798 in reply to 316748
caffeine:
I wonder if they tried
Answer1
Answer2

Fair chance it might just work!


I'd put my money on '+Answer1+'

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 11:04 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
316799 in reply to 316788
The Nerve:
sadwings:
Anonymous:

I just realised I messed up the quote. It was actually:
College Printer:
I just fucked the fax machine and now my children are in Taipei instead of my tray!

...fax machine, hence the "my children are in Taipei".

Neither one was amusing.

Sure it was. He used the "F-bomb", which is teh kewlest. If only newspapers and radio stations would start using this adjective more prolifically, we would be a pinnacle of light to the world.

No disrespect Nerve but we can all tell a recent school leaver when we see one on TDWTF, especially when evidenced by some of your ridiculously off-mark comments:
The Nerve:
JavaScript is an INTERPRETED language, which means that an interpreter reads the code and executes actions.

My point being that you are hardly in a position to make oblique references to immaturity. Just a friendly reminder.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 11:31 • by whiskeyjack (unregistered)
316800 in reply to 316782
Lefty Middlewright:

Yeah! And the mouses only have one button!


Actually, these days, they have NO visible buttons. ;)

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 11:35 • by Frank Lee (unregistered)
316802 in reply to 316769
Bus Logic:
Dumbing down computers is only a good thing for the dumb. For the rest of us it's a pain in the ass.
QFT.

Yes, yes, a thousand times yes! Computers for stupid people -- the curse of my career!

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 11:36 • by bannedfromcoding
+1 for VMS!

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 11:41 • by The Nerve (unregistered)
316804 in reply to 316799
Anonymous:

No disrespect Nerve but we can all tell a recent school leaver when we see one on TDWTF, especially when evidenced by some of your ridiculously off-mark comments:
The Nerve:
JavaScript is an INTERPRETED language, which means that an interpreter reads the code and executes actions.

My point being that you are hardly in a position to make oblique references to immaturity. Just a friendly reminder.


I remember stepping out of bounds on that one--a fact which I admitted to later. I was drawn offsides by an irritating trend I've noticed in this industry for languages and paradigms with dynamically typed errors, a disdain for checking at compile time, along with "programmers" who have the characteristic of being hopelessly tied to a debugger. Furthermore, after dealing briefly with JavaScript (for fun, independent of my job), I resolved not to touch it with a 10' pole if possible, and as much as I like using what Google has been able to create with AJAX; it bothers me that they are able to keep this poorly-conceived language in operation long past its expiration date.

And so, as I learned later in the conversation, a JavaScript compiler HAD been created: a monstrosity which I had hoped would never come to be. And it's the basis for Rhinoscript from what I understand, which has made its way into the JDK, which I unfortunately have to use. Luckily no one around here has found a use for it thus far.

As for my comments being off the mark, the only thing people disagreed with was that JavaScript could be and was currently compiled and not with my definition of a compiler.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 11:44 • by Remy Porter
316805 in reply to 316804
JavaScript has some clumsy syntax, but is otherwise a fantastic language. Clever use of closures allows you to do some pretty incredible things with a very small amount of code.

Also: it's the most mainstream functional language out there, and one of the few functional languages that you know pretty much every client can execute.

And one more thing: not only has a JavaScript compiler been created, but pretty much every modern browser uses a JIT compiler to execute JavaScript.

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 11:46 • by Herby (unregistered)
I am surprised that nobody has said:

"Nothing to see here, please move along."

Re: Nothing to See Here

2010-08-06 12:05 • by Huh? (unregistered)
316808 in reply to 316779
The Nerve:
Remy Porter:
...
//Hey, Apple, while you're stealing ZFS and DTrace from Solaris, would you mind adapting Zones? That'd be great.
//I am not the sort of person that thinks OSX is the best OS ever.
//That honor goes to VMS.


Unfortunately, Apple ripped off BSD, which ripped off these tools from Linux, which is not dumbed down at all, runs on reasonably-priced hardware, and doesn't have an insecure, egomaniac, control freak with his hands in every pot. Even the rubber-bumper-Ubuntu version blows OSX out of the water, although in 10.04 Mark Shuttleworth may be admitting he has a crush on Steve Jobs


Huh? BSD ripped what off from Linux?!
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