Comment On Please Drive Thru

"I took this picture from my cell phone at the Wendy's drive-thru," Chris Jones noted. "Somehow, the total still came out correct." [expand full text]
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Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 08:20 • by pglewis
ground speed != air speed

It very well could have been a brisk jet stream.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/instruments/q0210.shtml

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 08:20 • by ex-Pizza delivery man (unregistered)
A file named like that will, once added to an overly long directory path, break my operating system.

It cannot then be renamed.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 08:23 • by Timwi (unregistered)
Oh, I didn't realise that number must contain a number. Next time I'll certainly note this error message.

Put text in here that says what the reader should expect - like whether the screenshots were amusing or not.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 08:23 • by Not a Lawyer (unregistered)
Chris, I think when a seller posts a price it is a legally binding contract. You're due a $21 million refund. I'll take 10%, thank you.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 08:24 • by henk (unregistered)
210405 in reply to 210401
Even then, max cruising speed for an MD11 is about 950 km/h.

Converting this to m/h comes down to 989... I suppose this means a combination of tailwind and a wrong unit conversion :)

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 08:30 • by Jeroen Brattinga (unregistered)
Enough with the 2^31 errors! I get it, it's funny ... except for programmers. The other ones are OK, I guess.

Re: Ground speed 1592 km/h

2008-08-06 08:30 • by Maarten Sneep (unregistered)
From the map I think this is a flight over Finland, that is at high latitude. I've seen this before on a flight from Europe to San Fransico, and I think there is a bug in the speed calculation of airplanes (at least the calculation shown in the back). You'll probably go to warp speed if you fly right over the poles.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 08:37 • by pglewis
210410 in reply to 210405
henk:
Even then, max cruising speed for an MD11 is about 950 km/h.

Converting this to m/h comes down to 989... I suppose this means a combination of tailwind and a wrong unit conversion :)


I was still thinking it could be accurate within a couple hundred km/h.

But on a second inspection, is the flight headed west? Now that WOULD be something.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 08:48 • by Motti (unregistered)
The real WTF is that Iain has such a wide monitor and I don't!

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 08:54 • by Crabs (unregistered)
210413 in reply to 210404
Chris, I think when a seller posts a price it is a legally binding contract. You're due a $21 million refund. I'll take 10%, thank you.


Actually a posted price is only a legally binding contract when it's not an obvious error. Otherwise it'd be pretty easy for a disgruntled, underpaid best buy employee to change the price tags around and give us all $1.00 72" LCDs. Obvious error is loosely defined, so most any error is not legally binding. Small errors are usually just given to the customer to preserve good PR.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 08:55 • by foo (unregistered)
210414 in reply to 210401
pglewis:
ground speed != air speed

It very well could have been a brisk jet stream.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/instruments/q0210.shtml


I'm sorry, but a 1,000 kph tail wind? really? If that happens regularly we should change the airline routes to take advantage of them. Imagine the fuel savings.

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2008-08-06 08:59 • by Your Name (unregistered)
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Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 09:31 • by Gnonthgol
The seccond one is a duplecate. I have seen that one before on TDWTF.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 09:34 • by fbjon
210421 in reply to 210414
foo:
pglewis:
ground speed != air speed
It very well could have been a brisk jet stream.
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/instruments/q0210.shtml

I'm sorry, but a 1,000 kph tail wind? really? If that happens regularly we should change the airline routes to take advantage of them. Imagine the fuel savings.

It was some months ago, but IIRC, it was about twice the actual speed. In fact, it occasionally switched to the real ground speed for a moment, before returning to the twice-normal display. I'm pretty sure it was a pure software glitch.

Also yes, the flight's headed west, against the streams.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 09:35 • by dpm
210423 in reply to 210414
foo:
I'm sorry, but a 1,000 kph tail wind? really? If that happens regularly we should change the airline routes to take advantage of them. Imagine the fuel savings.

Shut up shut up shut up SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP!!

Dammit, man, if the airline executive managers heard you, they'd route my trip New York -> Los Angeles to head east.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 09:36 • by Metal Lord (unregistered)
anyone else took note of "Kuusamo"? :P

(almost completely similar to a common arabic curse which refers to one's mother's .. ehm .. private parts, in a somewhat degrading manner. a little like calling someone a motherf!cker)

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 09:38 • by Todd (unregistered)
210425 in reply to 210413
Otherwise it'd be pretty easy for a disgruntled, underpaid best buy employee to change the price tags around and give us all $1.00 72" LCDs.


There is no such thing as a disgruntled Best Buy employee. The re-education I received at Best Buy Camp tells me so.

Even typing the word "disgruntled" in the same sentence as "Best Buy" (all glory to The Yellow Tag) makes my head hurt...

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 09:39 • by Quimby (unregistered)
Ummmmmm . . . the total still came out correct? Are you sure?

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 09:43 • by Crabs (unregistered)
210428 in reply to 210426
Quimby:
Ummmmmm . . . the total still came out correct? Are you sure?


Yes, we're missing $0.97. Maybe that combo only cost 97 cents?

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 09:43 • by Walleye
210429 in reply to 210425
If they're disgruntled, then they need to be re-gruntled.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 09:44 • by Crabs (unregistered)
98 cents.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 10:05 • by KenW
210434 in reply to 210406
Jeroen Brattinga:
Enough with the 2^31 errors! I get it, it's funny ... except for programmers. The other ones are OK, I guess.


Enough with the bitching about content. I get it, you have no sense of humor. Like real people. Go somewhere else.

It's funny because it's a public-facing system that obviously underwent too little testing. Yes, funny... even to programmers. You'd probably get it if you: a) had a sense of humor, and b) were an actual programmer.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 10:07 • by WizardStan (unregistered)
210436 in reply to 210413
Crabs:
Chris, I think when a seller posts a price it is a legally binding contract. You're due a $21 million refund. I'll take 10%, thank you.


Actually a posted price is only a legally binding contract when it's not an obvious error. Otherwise it'd be pretty easy for a disgruntled, underpaid best buy employee to change the price tags around and give us all $1.00 72" LCDs. Obvious error is loosely defined, so most any error is not legally binding. Small errors are usually just given to the customer to preserve good PR.

At least in Canada, prices advertised outside the store (ie, in a flyer or on TV) must be honored on the basis that they're a hook to get you into the store, and your decision on where to go may have been swayed by that advertisement. Otherwise, there is no such requirement.
However, if the cashier tells you your total, and you say "ok", or make an otherwise accepting motion, THEN it becomes a legally binding contract. If the cash rings up an LCD for $1, and the cashier says "huh, guess it's right. $1 please" then the store must sell it to you for $1. The cashier, acting on behalf of the store, can choose not to sell at that price. Small errors usually slip through simply because it's easier than risking dealing with disgruntled customers.
This doesn't apply to web based ads and sales, however, which are classified as 3rd party sales and fall under a different set of rules.
Keep in mind this is also on the total. Upon acceptance, you agree to buy the listed items for the final price, regardless of what each item is actually listed at. The 21 million refund doesn't apply, since it wasn't part of the total.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 10:07 • by tag (unregistered)
Please note that in that long rename message is more than one "to" mentioned. Probably this is meant when asking for help: To figure out which "to" actually is the delimiter between the two filenames.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 10:08 • by KenW
210438 in reply to 210419
Gnonthgol:
The seccond one is a duplecate. I have seen that one before on TDWTF.


1. It's duplicate.
2. Who cares?
3. Says you. URL please.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 10:12 • by KenW
210442 in reply to 210425
Todd:
There is no such thing as a disgruntled Best Buy employee. The re-education I received at Best Buy Camp tells me so.

Even typing the word "disgruntled" in the same sentence as "Best Buy" (all glory to The Yellow Tag) makes my head hurt...


Funny... I picked up on the underpaid. Since Best Buy employees get paid for what they know, and they all seem to know little or nothing, I think they're mostly overpaid.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 11:37 • by Ken (unregistered)
Mmmmmmm.....Baconator...

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 11:53 • by WhiskeyJack
Iain has a huge monitor.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 12:06 • by Smash King
Everybody knows that that ground speed is too high for any plane. It is evident then that it is the speed of the Earth running through space

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 12:08 • by Marketing Error (unregistered)
210494 in reply to 210413
Crabs :


Chris, I think when a seller posts a price it is a legally binding contract. You're due a $21 million refund. I'll take 10%, thank you.


Actually a posted price is only a legally binding contract when it's not an obvious error. Otherwise it'd be pretty easy for a disgruntled, underpaid best buy employee to change the price tags around and give us all $1.00 72" LCDs. Obvious error is loosely defined, so most any error is not legally binding. Small errors are usually just given to the customer to preserve good PR.

That is not entirely true. This all depends on where you are.

For example, my first job was in a Best Buy warehouse in Oregon. One day someone in the company put out an add for a Plasma TV that was more than 64% off the actual COST of the TV (this was when Plasmas were relatively new to the retail market).

In Oregon because it was advertised the store was forced to sell all of our ridiculously low priced plasmas PLUS sell the next X number of these TVs that we got. (Oregon rain-check laws).

Best Buy lost more than $3,000 for each of the 3-4 TV's we had in stock. To avoid selling the rain-checked TV's, they simply stopped having any more of that TV delivered to that store.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 12:19 • by themagni
It's been about 2 years since I did any VB work (so let's call this pseudocode), but IIRC, you can generate popup error messages like this:

msgbox Error.number Error.Description

which would give you
25OMGWTF

to space it out, you'd type

msgbox Error.number & " " & Error.Description

to get
25 OMGWTF

so if they did something whacky like this:

msgbox "number" & " " & Error.Description

they would get:
number OMGWTF

It's possible that they had barely been able to get the code to compile, and when it did, they were reluctant to change anything.

Or worse:

msgbox "number " & Error.number & " " & Error.Description

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 12:20 • by Morasique (unregistered)
The real WTF is the 0 piece nugget combo

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 12:25 • by pmv (unregistered)
That airplane picture looks suspiciously like a camera phone picture, I hope it was in airplane mode.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 12:31 • by null (unregistered)
210510 in reply to 210405
henk:
Even then, max cruising speed for an MD11 is about 950 km/h.

Converting this to m/h comes down to 989... I suppose this means a combination of tailwind and a wrong unit conversion :)


Now we know where the NASA engineers who designed the Mars Express ended up.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 13:49 • by AdT (unregistered)
210529 in reply to 210401
pglewis:
ground speed != air speed

It very well could have been a brisk jet stream.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/instruments/q0210.shtml


Ground speed stated: 1592km/h
MD-11 max. cruise speed according to Wikipedia: 945km/h
Required minimum speed of tailwind: 1592km/h - 945km/h = 647km/h = 180m/s = 36 on the Beaufort scale, which traditionally ends at 12

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 13:58 • by James O'Boston (unregistered)
the real WTF is the BCNATOR CBO

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 14:01 • by car912 (unregistered)
Let's expand that third one a little bit.



magically becomes



Amazing, isn't it?

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 14:58 • by poochner
I still say the Baconator is nothing compared to the Monster Burger.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 15:03 • by Matt.C
I'm feeling supersonic.

Give me gin and tonic.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 15:13 • by Crabs (unregistered)
210552 in reply to 210436
WizardStan:
Crabs:
Chris, I think when a seller posts a price it is a legally binding contract. You're due a $21 million refund. I'll take 10%, thank you.


Actually a posted price is only a legally binding contract when it's not an obvious error. Otherwise it'd be pretty easy for a disgruntled, underpaid best buy employee to change the price tags around and give us all $1.00 72" LCDs. Obvious error is loosely defined, so most any error is not legally binding. Small errors are usually just given to the customer to preserve good PR.

At least in Canada, prices advertised outside the store (ie, in a flyer or on TV) must be honored on the basis that they're a hook to get you into the store, and your decision on where to go may have been swayed by that advertisement. Otherwise, there is no such requirement.
However, if the cashier tells you your total, and you say "ok", or make an otherwise accepting motion, THEN it becomes a legally binding contract. If the cash rings up an LCD for $1, and the cashier says "huh, guess it's right. $1 please" then the store must sell it to you for $1. The cashier, acting on behalf of the store, can choose not to sell at that price. Small errors usually slip through simply because it's easier than risking dealing with disgruntled customers.
This doesn't apply to web based ads and sales, however, which are classified as 3rd party sales and fall under a different set of rules.
Keep in mind this is also on the total. Upon acceptance, you agree to buy the listed items for the final price, regardless of what each item is actually listed at. The 21 million refund doesn't apply, since it wasn't part of the total.


Not exactly the same in the US. I know of one case where Best Buy printed an add with some sort of typo on the price of PS3's (Maybe 59.99 instead of 599.99, don't remember exactly). They were not forced to honor this, as it was an obvious typo.

Re: Subject

2008-08-06 15:16 • by iMalc (unregistered)
210553 in reply to 210415
Your Name:
Comment (BBCode Okay)
Error:
Comment must contain a comment.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 15:38 • by Adam (unregistered)
THEY'RE using that software, too? Haven't we nailed down the source of this yet????

http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/-TODO-fix-before-production.aspx

:D

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 15:39 • by WhiskeyJack
210557 in reply to 210552
Crabs:
Not exactly the same in the US. I know of one case where Best Buy printed an add with some sort of typo on the price of PS3's (Maybe 59.99 instead of 599.99, don't remember exactly). They were not forced to honor this, as it was an obvious typo.


Besides which, doesn't everyone have a little disclaimer in the fine print that says "not responsible for typographical errors, prices subject to change without notice" anyway?

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 15:58 • by pglewis
210563 in reply to 210414
foo:
pglewis:
ground speed != air speed

It very well could have been a brisk jet stream.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/instruments/q0210.shtml


I'm sorry, but a 1,000 kph tail wind? really? If that happens regularly we should change the airline routes to take advantage of them. Imagine the fuel savings.


No, a 650 kph tail wind. It's still excessive, but the point was that the ground speed given still could have been closer than you might think... if the flight had been heading the opposite direction.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 16:13 • by ergegs (unregistered)
210566 in reply to 210436
WizardStan:
Crabs:
Chris, I think when a seller posts a price it is a legally binding contract. You're due a $21 million refund. I'll take 10%, thank you.


Actually a posted price is only a legally binding contract when it's not an obvious error. Otherwise it'd be pretty easy for a disgruntled, underpaid best buy employee to change the price tags around and give us all $1.00 72" LCDs. Obvious error is loosely defined, so most any error is not legally binding. Small errors are usually just given to the customer to preserve good PR.

At least in Canada, prices advertised outside the store (ie, in a flyer or on TV) must be honored on the basis that they're a hook to get you into the store, and your decision on where to go may have been swayed by that advertisement. Otherwise, there is no such requirement.
However, if the cashier tells you your total, and you say "ok", or make an otherwise accepting motion, THEN it becomes a legally binding contract. If the cash rings up an LCD for $1, and the cashier says "huh, guess it's right. $1 please" then the store must sell it to you for $1. The cashier, acting on behalf of the store, can choose not to sell at that price. Small errors usually slip through simply because it's easier than risking dealing with disgruntled customers.
This doesn't apply to web based ads and sales, however, which are classified as 3rd party sales and fall under a different set of rules.
Keep in mind this is also on the total. Upon acceptance, you agree to buy the listed items for the final price, regardless of what each item is actually listed at. The 21 million refund doesn't apply, since it wasn't part of the total.
In Alberta, this is certainly not the case.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 16:22 • by pglewis
210568 in reply to 210529
AdT:
pglewis:
ground speed != air speed

It very well could have been a brisk jet stream.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/instruments/q0210.shtml


Ground speed stated: 1592km/h
MD-11 max. cruise speed according to Wikipedia: 945km/h
Required minimum speed of tailwind: 1592km/h - 945km/h = 647km/h = 180m/s = 36 on the Beaufort scale, which traditionally ends at 12


Beaufort wasn't sailing at 25,000 ft.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 16:47 • by DaveK
210582 in reply to 210424
Metal Lord:
anyone else took note of "Kuusamo"? :P

(almost completely similar to a common arabic curse which refers to one's mother's .. ehm .. private parts, in a somewhat degrading manner. a little like calling someone a motherf!cker)

... and so the chief of Tonto's tribe says to the Lone Ranger, "Sure! You can wander anywhere you like round the village - but I have to warn you, we let the cattle roam loose around here, so you have to take care not to step in the Kemo Sabe!"

Oh, hang on, I just wandered into the wrong joke. Sorry 'bout that!

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 17:07 • by HexHead (unregistered)
Did that price on the Wendy's menu looked familiar to anyone else? It's 0x80000000 (hex) divided by 100 (base 10)

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 18:02 • by St. Mary's Hospital for the True Image of Respiratory Diseases (unregistered)
210595 in reply to 210529
AdT:
pglewis:
ground speed != air speed

It very well could have been a brisk jet stream.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/instruments/q0210.shtml


Ground speed stated: 1592km/h
MD-11 max. cruise speed according to Wikipedia: 945km/h
Required minimum speed of tailwind: 1592km/h - 945km/h = 647km/h = 180m/s = 36 on the Beaufort scale, which traditionally ends at 12


Wikipedia:

The wind speeds vary according to the temperature gradient, exceeding 92 kilometres per hour (50 kn), although speeds of over 398 kilometres per hour (215 kn) have been measured.

Hmm. Perhaps the Jetstream will reach 647 km/h during some further global warming.

Re: Please Drive Thru

2008-08-06 18:25 • by Rich (unregistered)
210600 in reply to 210535
If they didn't want to rewrite the whole form, it would've been useful if they'd said "Error(s) found / Please correct the error below".
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