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Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:14 • by themagni

It's not just 2 H and 1 O. The Hs must be attached to the O. THey have them exactly backwards on the picture. It must be like this:

H   H
 \  /
  O
 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:18 • by doc0tis

You mean I'm not supposed to roll through every stop sign I see?

 

--doc0tis 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:19 • by Red5
Alex Papadimoulis:

Eric Golpe appreciated Washington state's new public education program: teaching the English alphabet to drivers along the I-5 ...-

This is a good thing. 
Very beneficial to immigrants that don't know our language yet.

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:22 • by Ron
Alex Papadimoulis:

That's their subtle way of telling us that they're removing the letter 'Z' from the alphabet :-o 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:25 • by bbum
The CPU at 105% isn't a bug, it is a feature!

Seriously -- long ago, someone decided that each additional CPU added to a system should add 100 to the total amount of CPU available.  So, if you have a quad CPU system, you can see a multithreaded app use up to 400% CPU. 

Neat, huh?

Happens on most unixes, it seems.

I'm not saying it is a terribly good design decision, but it was a purposeful decision, none-the-less.

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:25 • by Franz Kafka
97335 in reply to 97333
Anonymous:
Alex Papadimoulis:

That's their subtle way of telling us that they're removing the letter 'Z' from the alphabet :-o 

 

Sorry to be a wet blanket, but that's a test pattern.     

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:25 • by Codde
97336 in reply to 97330
Anonymous:

You mean I'm not supposed to roll through every stop sign I see?

 

--doc0tis 

 You can roll through them if they have a white border   ;)

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:26 • by VirtudyneEmployeeNumber423290123

The last one is by far the best......

 "Let the Daily WTF be your source of WTFs. Not your job."   ..... Why shouldn't I let the Daily WTF be my job? I spend enough time reading it at work.  Can't it be both? 

 
(Yes, we all realize that I know what he meant, but this is in the spirit of the popup potpourri, not the grammar nazi thing [heck, is it even wrong?].)
 

 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:26 • by GoatCheez
Alex Papadimoulis:

Given the overall quality of a product that Mathieu Lalonde's company uses, it's not to surprising that they didn't spend much on translation ...

Translation error? Seems to me more like the person took out a foreign language->english dictionary, replaced the words, then started insertting random other english words. My cat's made sentences that make more sense by lying down on the keyboard. Sheesh! ;-P 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:27 • by A/C gal
97339 in reply to 97334
Anonymous:
The CPU at 105% isn't a bug, it is a feature!

Seriously -- long ago, someone decided that each additional CPU added to a system should add 100 to the total amount of CPU available.  So, if you have a quad CPU system, you can see a multithreaded app use up to 400% CPU. 

Neat, huh?

Happens on most unixes, it seems.

I'm not saying it is a terribly good design decision, but it was a purposeful decision, none-the-less.

Any relation to overclocking?

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:29 • by ryos
97340 in reply to 97338
Actually, it looks a lot like the output you get from Google's chinese-to-english translater.

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:30 • by RH
Sure, it takes $5.00 to save $2.00, if you're a loser and go alone!  Since this seems to be a child-friendly event, it would seem that most orders are going to include 2 adults and at least one child (a savings of $6.00).

3 non-wtfs in the friday potpourri.  That seems about par for the course.

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:31 • by Anon
97342 in reply to 97335
Anonymous:
Anonymous:
That's their subtle way of telling us that they're removing the letter 'Z' from the alphabet :-o 
Sorry to be a wet blanket, but that's a test pattern. 
Wow, you think so?  Thanks Franz, I never would have gotten that on my own.

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:31 • by RH
97343 in reply to 97339
Anonymous:
Anonymous:
The CPU at 105% isn't a bug, it is a feature!

Seriously -- long ago, someone decided that each additional CPU added to a system should add 100 to the total amount of CPU available.  So, if you have a quad CPU system, you can see a multithreaded app use up to 400% CPU. 

Neat, huh?

Happens on most unixes, it seems.

I'm not saying it is a terribly good design decision, but it was a purposeful decision, none-the-less.

Any relation to overclocking?


No.

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:31 • by emurphy
Alex Papadimoulis:

Good News Everyone! I found a great deal for you all: for only $5.00, you can save $2.00!

 

 

If the $5 is per order, then this is... well, still a WTF, but not as much of one.

 

How much do tickets for children under 5 normally cost?  That wouldn't be ambiguous if they'd used a table instead of all that tedious verbiage.  (But knowing these guys, the table would be a wooden one with a photo on it.)

 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:32 • by GoatCheez
97345 in reply to 97339
Anonymous:
Anonymous:
The CPU at 105% isn't a bug, it is a feature!

Seriously -- long ago, someone decided that each additional CPU added to a system should add 100 to the total amount of CPU available.  So, if you have a quad CPU system, you can see a multithreaded app use up to 400% CPU. 

Neat, huh?

Happens on most unixes, it seems.

I'm not saying it is a terribly good design decision, but it was a purposeful decision, none-the-less.

Any relation to overclocking?

NO. Definitely not. they'd have to read the processor's ID to know what it's default clock is, and then they'd have to figure out the current clock to come up with the new max... So, NO, definitely not.

 So does that happen on linux? I've never noticed cpu usage > 100% on my dual core ...
 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:32 • by ryos
97346 in reply to 97339
"Any relations to overclocking?"

Nope - how does the system know what clock the machine shipped at?

(The lableing of the shot as originating from a PowerBook are inaccurate. As much as I wish Apple's dual-core, intel-based laptops were still called PowerBooks, this must have been from a MacBook (Pro).)

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:33 • by RH
97347 in reply to 97341
Anonymous:
Sure, it takes $5.00 to save $2.00, if you're a loser and go alone!  Since this seems to be a child-friendly event, it would seem that most orders are going to include 2 adults and at least one child (a savings of $6.00).

3 non-wtfs in the friday potpourri.  That seems about par for the course.

Um, make that $5.00.  I'm moving out of my apartment and typing on a keyboard on the floor while laying on an inflatable matress.  My finger slipped.

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:36 • by quamaretto
Alex Papadimoulis:

Eric Golpe appreciated Washington state's new public education program: teaching the English alphabet to drivers along the I-5 ...-

 

No no no, this is the Alphabet Alert System, to let us know when an alphabet has been kidnapped. Are you a bad enough dude to rescure the Alphabet?

Now that it's gone, of course, there's really no way of knowing when we'll run out of lette

 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:40 • by emurphy
97351 in reply to 97341
Anonymous:
Sure, it takes $5.00 to save $2.00, if you're a loser and go alone!  Since this seems to be a child-friendly event, it would seem that most orders are going to include 2 adults and at least one child (a savings of $6.00).

3 non-wtfs in the friday potpourri.  That seems about par for the course.

 

Um, no, that's a savings of $5.00.  (Matthew 7:3-5.)

 

Unless the child is under 5, in which case we have to pick an assumption about how much (if anything) tickets for such children normally cost.  (My assumption would be that they're normally free.)  In any case, that ambiguity is a secondary WTF.

 

To really cash in on the discount, you'd want to sign up an entire group at once (class field trip, Scout troop/den, etc.), which is actually a smart thing to incentivize (even though they were dumb about the implementation).

 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:42 • by Paul

http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200610/gmh20.gif

The 'O' in H2O is a letter, not a number

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:42 • by emurphy
97353 in reply to 97347
Anonymous:
Anonymous:
Sure, it takes $5.00 to save $2.00, if you're a loser and go alone!  Since this seems to be a child-friendly event, it would seem that most orders are going to include 2 adults and at least one child (a savings of $6.00).

3 non-wtfs in the friday potpourri.  That seems about par for the course.

Um, make that $5.00.  I'm moving out of my apartment and typing on a keyboard on the floor while laying on an inflatable matress.  My finger slipped.

 

Fair enough; I retract the Bible quote, then.

 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:46 • by Anonymous
97355 in reply to 97345
GoatCheez:
Anonymous:
Anonymous:
The CPU at 105% isn't a bug, it is a feature!

Seriously -- long ago, someone decided that each additional CPU added to a system should add 100 to the total amount of CPU available.  So, if you have a quad CPU system, you can see a multithreaded app use up to 400% CPU. 

Neat, huh?

Happens on most unixes, it seems.

I'm not saying it is a terribly good design decision, but it was a purposeful decision, none-the-less.

Any relation to overclocking?

NO. Definitely not. they'd have to read the processor's ID to know what it's default clock is, and then they'd have to figure out the current clock to come up with the new max... So, NO, definitely not.

 So does that happen on linux? I've never noticed cpu usage > 100% on my dual core ...
 

 

Yep.  I've seen CPU usage of 190%+ when doing a make -j3 on a 2 CPU linux box, say during a kernel rebuild :)

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:52 • by un.sined
97357 in reply to 97331
Red5:
Alex Papadimoulis:

Eric Golpe appreciated Washington state's new public education program: teaching the English alphabet to drivers along the I-5 ...-

This is a good thing. 
Very beneficial to immigrants that don't know our language yet.

 

Quite important for people coming in from Oregon...

 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:53 • by Seltsam
97359 in reply to 97355

Yep.  I've seen CPU usage of 190%+ when doing a make -j3 on a 2 CPU linux box, say during a kernel rebuild :)

 

I'm not saying Windows is correct, but it only uses 100% in the case of > 1 core/cpu.  If 2 cores or cpus, then 50% means one CPU is likely pegged.

 

This makes more sense to me, since it is 100% of the system's CPU time.

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:57 • by hk0
97360 in reply to 97345

The values in the CPU usage column when viewing top (or a similar utility) are per process/thread... it represents the total CPU loading for that thread for the particular CPU core it's scheduled on. If a program is multithreaded there will be multiple lines with seperate percentages.

The sum total at the top goes from 0 - NCPU * 100% because that way if you add up all the percentages in the column, it will equal the shown User CPU %. It's also a quick way to notice how much "scaling" you're getting out of your extra cores. If you have 4 cores but your user% never gets above %160 then maybe you should see where you can increase parallelism.

 
I suspect MacOSX pre-adds the threads together for each process, and final cut pro is certainly multi-threaded. Hence the +100% for a single entry there. 

Chocobot (vc: chocobot)

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 14:57 • by un.sined
Alex Papadimoulis:
 

I've heard of people who send themselves flowers for a self-esteem boost ... but I have to agree with Dave Oranchak on this one ... having to buy sympathy flowers for yourself post-mortem is extra sad ...

This is actually kinda scary if you look at the third option...  Multiple Recipients, Same Location... 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:02 • by unknown
97362 in reply to 97361
clearly this is for the cult with mass suicide intentions...

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:03 • by Pap
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't those peanut bags say "Alergy Warning: May contain nuts" because although the peanut is not a nut, they are often processed with the same equipment that is used to process nuts at the same facility?


WTF Note:  This forum software seems to think it's funny to randomly add nbsp; tags instead of regular spaces after all the words that follow "May", hence the weird formatting.

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:04 • by Anonymous
97364 in reply to 97334
Anonymous:
The CPU at 105% isn't a bug, it is a feature!

Seriously -- long ago, someone decided that each additional CPU added to a system should add 100 to the total amount of CPU available.  So, if you have a quad CPU system, you can see a multithreaded app use up to 400% CPU. 

Neat, huh?

Happens on most unixes, it seems.

I'm not saying it is a terribly good design decision, but it was a purposeful decision, none-the-less.

It makes perfect sense at the kernel level.

In any OS, an individual thread can only take up to 100% of a given CPU.  You can't run the same thread on two processors at the same time.  It wouldn't make any sense.  A single thread is, by definition, single threaded.

The CPU% given is the percentage of CPU time a given thread has been allocated on a processor by the OS.  It's not the percentage of total CPU time available, since a thread is limited to one CPU at a time anyway.

The tool in the screenshot has combined 8 threads in one entry.  Some threads are obviously running on different CPUs at the same time.  Since the tool is already combining multiple entries into one data view, it would make more sense to display a percentage of total CPU time and not usage on an individual processor.

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:07 • by Anonymous
Alex Papadimoulis:

The real WTF is why they're using a web application that breaks the "Back" button... 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:08 • by Digitalbath
97367 in reply to 97362

Anonymous:
clearly this is for the cult with mass suicide intentions...

It could be for those guys out there whose wife and mistress are coworkers.  With this feature, you would never forget one or the other...always a plus.

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:09 • by Mark Haanen
97368 in reply to 97362
Anonymous:
clearly this is for the cult with mass suicide intentions...

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:10 • by Mark Haanen
97369 in reply to 97362
Anonymous:
clearly this is for the cult with mass suicide intentions...


Probably that group from Oregon. The Alphabet Road Sign Suiciders Anonymous.

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:11 • by un.sined
97370 in reply to 97367
Digitalbath:

Anonymous:
clearly this is for the cult with mass suicide intentions...

It could be for those guys out there whose wife and mistress are coworkers.  With this feature, you would never forget one or the other...always a plus.

 It does specify recently deceased though.  I guess if they found out about each other you might have to take drastic measures...
 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:14 • by meeeeeeee
97371 in reply to 97342

OH! ... I get it NOW.... It IS a test pattern! Wow, Franz is smart. I was staring at the image trying to decipher what the mysterious numbers and letters meant, but I couldn't figure it out. Only after Franz enlightened me, do I understand the mystery. Thanks, Franz!! Good thinking!

 captcha: badgerbadgerbadger

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:16 • by foonly
When I put 'undefined' in Google Maps it quite appropriately gives a map of the whole US and lists one spot in NJ and one in California.

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:19 • by Carnildo
97374 in reply to 97339
Anonymous:
Anonymous:
The CPU at 105% isn't a bug, it is a feature!

Seriously -- long ago, someone decided that each additional CPU added to a system should add 100 to the total amount of CPU available.  So, if you have a quad CPU system, you can see a multithreaded app use up to 400% CPU. 

Neat, huh?

Happens on most unixes, it seems.

I'm not saying it is a terribly good design decision, but it was a purposeful decision, none-the-less.

Any relation to overclocking?


No, overclocking only moves where 100% is.  If you want your system to go to 11, you need to add CPUs.

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:25 • by Trinian
97375 in reply to 97366
The other real WTF is that signing up for the online banking service somehow requires Adobe Acrobat.  What exactly would you need Acrobat for - to print out the application form, sign it, take a picture on a wooden table, scan the picture, and then e-mail it to the bank?

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:26 • by TB3
The H2O thing doesn't surprise me in the least. I worked at the ad agency that manages the GM Canada web sites last year, and the ineptitude was stunning. They somehow managed to build an entire CMS using XML and flat files instead of a database. Unfortunately, the XML was processed through a Java app, and it took so long to run they could only build the site once a day.

The level of QC and QA was abysmal. I saw mistakes like the 'H2O' thing go through to production even after I alerted multiple people about it. For example, the french side of the trucks site refered to pick-up truck models that were no longer in production. That error remained on the live site for about six months, until they refreshed the entire site.

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:35 • by Rich
97377 in reply to 97361
un.sined:

This is actually kinda scary if you look at the third option...  Multiple Recipients, Same Location... 

Then there's the "Mafia" option: Same recipient, multiple locations.

 

Rich 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:37 • by Anonymous
97378 in reply to 97334
This is very useful if you have massively parallel systems. Also its just correct math. If you have 2 CPUs running an ap for each 1 hour you get 2 hour CPU time which is exactly 200% of the 1 hour it took, got it?

If you got a few thousand cores you do not want to have it the other way around.

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:38 • by un.sined
97379 in reply to 97377
Anonymous:
un.sined:

This is actually kinda scary if you look at the third option...  Multiple Recipients, Same Location... 

Then there's the "Mafia" option: Same recipient, multiple locations.

 

Rich 

 

I wonder if the site lets you specify a date in the future...

 

"I'm really sorry about your impending death on 10/31/2006" 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:39 • by Rich
97380 in reply to 97333
Anonymous:

That's their subtle way of telling us that they're removing the letter 'Z' from the alphabet :-o 

Zed's dead, baby.

 

Rich 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:42 • by Jeremy H
Alex Papadimoulis:
someone might want to let General Motors know that the reason they call it H2O is because there's two H's and one O


Actually, I think the point of the ad is that the kind of student who doodles an ad for GM in their Chemistry notebook is the same kind of student who thinks that H2O has two O's...


captcha: pizza (I could go for some right now)

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:43 • by cconroy
Alex Papadimoulis:

Eric Golpe appreciated Washington state's new public education program: teaching the English alphabet to drivers along the I-5 ...-









It makes more sense if you see the previous message in the series:



    THIS MESSAGE
    BROUGHT TO YOU BY
    THE CHARACTERS

 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:45 • by Dr Sanchez
Alex Papadimoulis:

Hmmm ... maybe it was the same guy who translated this manual that came with hardware that Alistair Higson purchased (see full image) ...

 

"spreading the hot good"

I love it! 
 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 15:51 • by Saladin
97385 in reply to 97363

Pap:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't those peanut bags say "Alergy Warning: May contain nuts" because although the peanut is not a nut, they are often processed with the same equipment that is used to process nuts at the same facility?

There are some peanut products out there (like, say, peanut butter) that say "Warning: may contain peanuts" on them.  It's pretty astounding at how some people need the obvious stated to them (you mean I'll get fat if I eat McDonald's 3 meals per day every day?)

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 16:07 • by bedtime
97388 in reply to 97361
un.sined:
Alex Papadimoulis:
 

I've heard of people who send themselves flowers for a self-esteem boost ... but I have to agree with Dave Oranchak on this one ... having to buy sympathy flowers for yourself post-mortem is extra sad ...

This is actually kinda scary if you look at the third option...  Multiple Recipients, Same Location... 

http://ww4.1800flowers.com/product.do?baseCode=2108

What's even scarier is that if you look at the options in "Location Type" you have the options of:

RURAL_ROUTE and SCHOOL

 

Re: Pop-up Potpourri: You Can Quote Me On That

2006-10-20 16:07 • by GrandmasterB
Alex Papadimoulis:

From this day forward, all my message boxes will use the term 'we are to afflict nuisance'.  Its so poetic.

 

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