Comment On Unacceptable Use

As an employer, it can be a pretty big challenge to figure out what sites are work-appropriate and what ones aren’t. Game sites, news sites, shopping sites: obviously inappropriate and most certainly frowned upon. The company intranet and the company’s public website: appropriate, so long as it’s on your lunch break. It’s those “grey area” sites – such as the reference and education ones – that one could go either way on. Fortunately, Chad Moore’s company knew exactly where to draw the line … [expand full text]
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Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 11:04 • by dkf (unregistered)
Looking stuff up in a public free dictionary is unacceptable use? That's one severe and stupid AUP...

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 11:09 • by SilverEyes (unregistered)
Company proprietary dictionary only!

That way you can have the correct version of words, as approved by management.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 11:11 • by R1 (unregistered)
144059 in reply to 144057
Must be that the whole category "educational/Reference" is blocked because "don't need educational sites for business".

(how many times did I check a word in an online dictionnary while writing business documents ?)

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 11:13 • by Dr. Stumpy (unregistered)
144060 in reply to 144057
Who kneads a dictionary when you half built in spell chequers???

Captcha: darwin

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 11:13 • by Badger (unregistered)
The real WTF is that he is using IE5

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 11:20 • by abx
144062 in reply to 144061
Badger:
The real WTF is that he is using IE5
downloads.microsoft.com was probably blocked...

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 11:25 • by benryves
144063 in reply to 144061
Badger:
The real WTF is that he is using IE5
Looks like IE6 to me (XP). Just running at a low colour depth.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 11:33 • by Badger (unregistered)
144064 in reply to 144063
benryves:
Badger:
The real WTF is that he is using IE5
Looks like IE6 to me (XP). Just running at a low colour depth.

On 16-bit colour depth, the home icon in IE6 is still the "perspective" one (IE5 has the "front elevation" one).

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 11:40 • by Zhouluyi (unregistered)
144066 in reply to 144064
Badger:

On 16-bit colour depth, the home icon in IE6 is still the "perspective" one (IE5 has the "front elevation" one).


That's a true MS fan. I like IE and MS, but I don't think I can identify icons from old versions in diferent color depths.

Captcha: tacos (lunch time!)

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 11:48 • by Chrsitopher Mercer (unregistered)
At just about every company I worked at they had a wide open internet policy. No filters, blocking programs, restrictions of any kind. You were expected to do your job and if you did not because of internet abuse (wasting time) you got the bounce. It's really simple, do your job don't waste time.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 11:49 • by H3SO5
144068 in reply to 144063
benryves:
Badger:
The real WTF is that he is using IE5
Looks like IE6 to me (XP). Just running at a low colour depth.


Looks like IE6 on 256 color mode. The real WTF is that there are people still using 256-color mode...

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 11:49 • by JenK (unregistered)
I used to work on IE. The scary thing was, we could justify almost any browsing as "ad-hoc testing"....

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 11:54 • by digislave (unregistered)
144071 in reply to 144063
benryves:
Badger:
The real WTF is that he is using IE5
Looks like IE6 to me (XP). Just running at a low colour depth.

16 colours ought to be enough for anyone!!

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 12:11 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
Look at the back button: IE 6 has a round arrow (even when set to small icons, which is not the default), while IE 5 has a plain arrow (and its default is small icons)

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 12:14 • by yafake (unregistered)
Hm... he's trying to use MSIE on the untrusted internet. No wonder that he got malware which blocks sites.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 12:21 • by Thief^
It's IE6.
The icons look old because IE6 drops back to old icons when you're running in that low a colour depth.
IE5 had everything on toolbars that you couldn't lock, so they always had "grab points" on the left, and the image doesn't. The logo in the top-right is from IE6 (IE5 is a globe).

IE5 vs IE6 from History of Internet Explorer (Wikipedia)

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 12:29 • by penryu (unregistered)
If you want to have and justify unrestricted network access, become a netadmin.

Having followed that advice, one of our public-facing departments (read: reception) recently sent a formal request to my department requesting we allow them access to myspace.com for "morale reasons."

We laughed.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 12:34 • by gwenhwyfaer
144077 in reply to 144076
penryu:
Having followed that advice, one of our public-facing departments (read: reception) recently sent a formal request to my department requesting we allow them access to myspace.com for "morale reasons."

We laughed.

Ah, but you have to admit, it was a spirited effort. :)

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 12:47 • by Ben (unregistered)
144080 in reply to 144076
penryu:
If you want to have and justify unrestricted network access, become a netadmin.

Having followed that advice, one of our public-facing departments (read: reception) recently sent a formal request to my department requesting we allow them access to myspace.com for "morale reasons."

We laughed.
Do you also search their cubicles for contraband like books and wacky desk calendars that could be used to goof off?

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 12:48 • by Words-R-Us (unregistered)
144082 in reply to 144060
Dr. Stumpy:
Who kneads a dictionary when you half built in spell chequers???

Well, I suppose, the rationale is that the dictionary contains 'inappropriate' language. And we don't want any of that on our corporate network.
Sadly, those who need to use a reference when writing business correspondence, do not. I see abuses constantly in corporate communications (http://www.syndicateyourcontent.com/articledetail.php?id=16)

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 12:49 • by arock99
That's not that bad...
we do Java Development and Oracle.com was blocked a while ago. Needless to say I was not too happy. What is more disurbing is that nobody noticed before I did and it had been like that for god knows how long.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 13:08 • by charlie (unregistered)
144086 in reply to 144060
Those who can write word well written, but don't know what they mean?

Captcha: tastey, Firefox spellcheker doesn't know that one...

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 13:14 • by Ted (unregistered)
144088 in reply to 144073
Anonymous:
Look at the back button: IE 6 has a round arrow (even when set to small icons, which is not the default), while IE 5 has a plain arrow (and its default is small icons)


some people really need a woman/man in their life

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 13:19 • by penryu (unregistered)
144089 in reply to 144080
He's a receptionist. He doesn't have a cube. He has a PC that does nothing but keep track of customers which come up to his station at any time.

If his supervisor wants to raid their stations, that's his prerogative. The same supervisor who, upon verification, asked us to ignore the request to allow myspace.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 13:41 • by Foobar (unregistered)
We have our very own language, so no dictionaries are allowed here, don't insist.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 13:56 • by Dave (unregistered)
This reminds me of the time my old company's filters got inverted. All of the OK websites were blocked, and all of the forbidden websites were allowed. We had some fun that day. =)

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 14:20 • by AdT (unregistered)
dictionary.com lists the definitions of many obscene words. If that isn't sufficient justification to block all of dictionary.com, block all of the Internet, and gouge everyone's eyes out who's ever had a dirty thought, I don't know what is!

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 14:29 • by nwbrown
144101 in reply to 144064
Badger:
benryves:
Badger:
The real WTF is that he is using IE5
Looks like IE6 to me (XP). Just running at a low colour depth.

On 16-bit colour depth, the home icon in IE6 is still the "perspective" one (IE5 has the "front elevation" one).

The Real WTF is that you guys use IE enough that you can tell the difference.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 14:55 • by Bobbo (unregistered)
144102 in reply to 144069
JenK:
I used to work on IE. The scary thing was, we could justify almost any browsing as "ad-hoc testing"....


Ah, so that's why pr0n sites always work really well in IE?? Err, apparently.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 15:07 • by buggy
I used to work at a company that had bizarre blocking policies. They would block PETA, for example, but not Earth First. They would block some, but not all, of Planned Parenthood, but openly let Operation Rescue through. I used to amuse myself finding interesting, contradictory, or ironic parings of blocked/unblocked pages.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 15:49 • by Alcari (unregistered)
144109 in reply to 144104
buggy:
I used to work at a company that had bizarre blocking policies. They would block PETA, for example, but not Earth First. They would block some, but not all, of Planned Parenthood, but openly let Operation Rescue through. I used to amuse myself finding interesting, contradictory, or ironic parings of blocked/unblocked pages.


Sounds like their policy is really paying off...

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 17:13 • by Sauron (unregistered)
Reminds me of one day a year or two ago when Websense blocked Google for 'sex'. Yeah, it would have been an unpleasant day at school for me had I not set up a personal proxy server already....

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 19:47 • by dingo done snatched my baby (unregistered)
It seems that people have figured out ways to circumvent these restrictions. Research should thus proceed into uploading biocontrol software directly into worker's brains. This software will, for the duration that subjects are at work, preclude them from accessing sites deemed "off limits" by patching their behavioral control centers with neuronal implant interfaces. At the least, it will allow easier panoptic monitoring from the master control center. We should also proceed with, but maybe not tell people about, additional hidden control capabilities that will be available to be engaged after work hours, as that sort of thing tends to scare people.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 20:24 • by Daniel Beardsmore
144118 in reply to 144088
Ted:
some people really need a woman/man in their life

The irony of this idea becomes apparent when you realise that nerds who are getting laid are still as nerdy as they were before they got to make use of the sack.

For what it's worth, I can confirm that IE 6 reverts to the old icons in 256-colour mode. Although the screenshot fooled me too -- I wasn't aware of this "feature".

Edit: Oooo something I did (either the depth switches or the re-assertion of my colour scheme (which gets broken when I switch down in Win2k)) has triggered the bug in my Firefox profile whereby Firefox gains an empty toolbar above the menu bar. Whatever the bar is, it won't respond to mouse clicks and you cannot drag icons onto it.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 20:27 • by Brian Jones (unregistered)
Clearly they're not allowing access to dictionary.com because it contains a lot of mistakes. Flavour, colour, the list goes on. I bet if he went to the Oxford English site he'd find it nice and accessible ;)

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 20:37 • by ytb (unregistered)
dew knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 21:07 • by dkf (unregistered)
144122 in reply to 144068
H3SO5:
The real WTF is that there are people still using 256-color mode...
I understand that that sort of thing is more common when using remote desktops, or at least that's the only time I get bug reports filed against software I maintain about poor handling of 256-color mode.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 21:13 • by nevyn (unregistered)
144123 in reply to 144068
H3SO5:
benryves:
Badger:
The real WTF is that he is using IE5
Looks like IE6 to me (XP). Just running at a low colour depth.


Looks like IE6 on 256 color mode. The real WTF is that there are people still using 256-color mode...


Citrix/thin client/RDC or similar, probably.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-04 23:23 • by sas
144126 in reply to 144067
Oh really, and in which country can you discriminate so openly and hire only people with the maturity level of a 16-year-old or better?

Here in the US, you can do a lot of things to your employees, but firing them often requires defending a lawsuit.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-05 03:15 • by penryu (unregistered)
I think you're all missing the point here.

Forget about all this censorship. Dictionaries, social networking, Greenpeace... all this pales next to my employers "no beard" policy!

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-05 03:32 • by nelle (unregistered)
144133 in reply to 144101
nwbrown:
Badger:
benryves:
Badger:
The real WTF is that he is using IE5
Looks like IE6 to me (XP). Just running at a low colour depth.

On 16-bit colour depth, the home icon in IE6 is still the "perspective" one (IE5 has the "front elevation" one).

The Real WTF is that you guys use IE enough that you can tell the difference.


I do webprogramming for living and I have this handy tool that enables you to have ALL IE versions installed on one PC (3.0 - 7.0) ...

p.s. I often use VPN to dial in to a external company intranet and than use mstsc to connect to a computer on their network where i have to work in 256 colors with all stupid policies and i am not admin so i can not update the IE ....

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-05 03:52 • by Alan (unregistered)
At my old company, we managed to avoid filtering by demonstrating that our manager, and her copious use of horoscope and dating sites, would be the worst off.

Another time, she had me launch a big investigation into why our ISDN internet was connecting every 5 minutes, 24 hours a day - hinting that disiplinary measures would result for the culprit. Turns out that she had installed one of those stupid "virtual dektop buddy" things and her PC was crawling with spyware. No action was taken.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-05 04:09 • by Zecc
144137 in reply to 144076
penryu:
If you want to have and justify unrestricted network access, become a netadmin.

Having followed that advice, one of our public-facing departments (read: reception) recently sent a formal request to my department requesting we allow them access to myspace.com for "morale reasons."

We laughed.
^ There's morale right there. ^

Having said that, I'm at this very moment asking my girlfriend(through gmail chat) to send me an HTTP monitoring program I want to help me debug my webapp.

Freeware/Download sites are blocked here, so she helped me browse the site via gmail. :)

(worsethanfailure.com isn't blocked, fortunately)

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-05 04:25 • by DOA
144140 in reply to 144117
dingo done snatched my baby:
It seems that people have figured out ways to circumvent these restrictions. Research should thus proceed into uploading biocontrol software directly into worker's brains. This software will, for the duration that subjects are at work, preclude them from accessing sites deemed "off limits" by patching their behavioral control centers with neuronal implant interfaces. At the least, it will allow easier panoptic monitoring from the master control center. We should also proceed with, but maybe not tell people about, additional hidden control capabilities that will be available to be engaged after work hours, as that sort of thing tends to scare people.

All I need now is a Persuadertron

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-05 04:39 • by Arancaytar
144141 in reply to 144062
abx:
Badger:
The real WTF is that he is using IE5
downloads.microsoft.com was probably blocked...


"... categorized as Virus/Malware."

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-05 05:11 • by Rabbi (unregistered)
A WTF from the WTF is a load of IT professionals arguing about the colour depth.

It might originally have been 32-bit colour, but 256 is more than adequate for an emailed image that's going to be posted to a website.

If I had submitted this error, I would have reduced the colour depth on the image before sending it, out of consideration to Alex. Why should I use up my bandwidth and his storage on a 500k image when 50k will do?

As for the version debate, it's IE6 on Windows XP (logo) with "Classic" appearance - no round "back" button.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-05 06:55 • by rsynnott
144148 in reply to 144133
I've been lucky enough to only ever work somewhere which had web filtering once; it was a large state hospital. The filtering wasn't generally too obtrusive (it was really just there to stop people browsing porn) but for whatever reason, it decided for a week or so that Jakarta/Apache Struts (a large, rambling Java web framework in vogue at the time) was an unthinkably filthy subject, and blocked the site and mailing list.

Everywhere else I've worked has either been pretty small or a university, so no web filtering in either case.

nelle:


I do webprogramming for living and I have this handy tool that enables you to have ALL IE versions installed on one PC (3.0 - 7.0) ...




But that's not EVERY IE! Remember IE 2, which came with NT4? Completely and utterly useless, of course, but IE nonetheless. I'm sure there was an IE 1 at some point, too, but I've never seen it.

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-05 07:24 • by XIU
144150 in reply to 144148
rsynnott:
I've been lucky enough to only ever work somewhere which had web filtering once; it was a large state hospital. The filtering wasn't generally too obtrusive (it was really just there to stop people browsing porn) but for whatever reason, it decided for a week or so that Jakarta/Apache Struts (a large, rambling Java web framework in vogue at the time) was an unthinkably filthy subject, and blocked the site and mailing list.

Everywhere else I've worked has either been pretty small or a university, so no web filtering in either case.

nelle:


I do webprogramming for living and I have this handy tool that enables you to have ALL IE versions installed on one PC (3.0 - 7.0) ...




But that's not EVERY IE! Remember IE 2, which came with NT4? Completely and utterly useless, of course, but IE nonetheless. I'm sure there was an IE 1 at some point, too, but I've never seen it.


http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=msie

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-05 08:11 • by Gertjan (unregistered)
The real WTF is that he has "reference.com" in his bookmarks bar...

Re: Unacceptable Use

2007-07-05 08:39 • by Anon (unregistered)
144159 in reply to 144057
We have a real WTF at my work when I discovered that all the "translate this page" links on Google have been blocked, even though the original pages aren't. I had to manually cut and paste snippets of German out of a page into the Google language tools (which aren't blocked) and translate piece by piece (while losing all formatting).
I reported it 3 weeks ago and they still haven't fixed it. Stupid Blue Coat.
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