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Irrational Installation (from Mike T) My company recently shelled out $8,000 for a mobile TV conference endpoint that allows us to do a two-way video conference from the field using a fairly small device (about the size of a large digital camera). It's a pretty cool idea, but we're finding that the hardware and software design are just not quite Enterprisey enough for our liking. [expand full text]
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Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:05 • by trtrwtf (unregistered)
As a technical writer, I apologize, and I assure you that I will be hunting down the parties responsible and dealing with them personally.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:05 • by jrh (unregistered)
Oh my, those hard drive install instruction are a work of art.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:05 • by Firstouss (unregistered)
FRIST! Paula Brilliant that magnet trick.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:06 • by Lockwood
I was going to comment on the comment manager comment manager comment, but I had a problem with my hard dish and couldn't find a magnet.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:09 • by Michael Burge (unregistered)
I don't see the issue with the second one. "See our article on installing Microsoft Office with the Microsoft Office installer" doesn't cause any alarm bells, so neither should saying "Installation Manager installer". They even capitalized their product name to make it clear how to parse it.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:09 • by SonicLover (unregistered)
Sounds like whoever wrote that silent install sentence needs to retake CPSC 432.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:12 • by PythonM (unregistered)
351760 in reply to 351757
The producers wish it to be known that those responsible for the fault in the hard dish manual have just been sacked.



N0, Really! A m00se bit my sister 0nce!

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:14 • by alegr (unregistered)
Yo dog, I herd you like installers, so I made an installer for your installation manager installer.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:18 • by frits
I like how they use a Euro coin, as if that's been around long enough to be a valid point of reference. Also, what if I'm not in Europe?

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:19 • by Childish (unregistered)
The Factory Reset magnet trick takes me back to my first home computer, a Mac Plus.

Circa 1985, I got the Macintosh and Lisa Assembly Language programming kit. It had some 3.5" disks, a book, & a small plastic switch.

It turns out that the plastic switch was the reset button. Find the air slot on the side of the Mac Plus, & snap it in. Since Macintosh was user friendly, they didn't want regular people to have a reset switch.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:21 • by In before the obvious (unregistered)
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Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:22 • by Just Me (unregistered)
Maybe I'm just too geeky but I liked the factory reset procedure for the Xcaster. Factory reset is not an usual procedure and can cause a lot of trouble if done inadvertently. Using a magnet there is no need for a small hole (as is common in a lot of products).

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:22 • by PedanticCurmudgeon
Whoever designed the camera reset function has been visiting trollscience.com much too often.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:22 • by Anonymous Cow-Herd (unregistered)
351768 in reply to 351763
frits:
I like how they use a Euro coin, as if that's been around long enough to be a valid point of reference. Also, what if I'm not in Europe?

Then you're missing out on some hot Euro action. Sucks to be you. I like two-tone coins, two-tone coins are cool.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:22 • by Carlos (unregistered)
But the question is : how do magnets work?

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:25 • by Jack (unregistered)
That's not Engrish.

That's not even bad Engrish.

That is an alien intelligence attempting to make contact with the human race. See, it isn't as easy as we thought, establishing a meaningful understanding from which to start decoding each other's languages...

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:26 • by Sam (unregistered)
Hah, I received that very same manual many years ago with a cheap case I picked up on eBay. A work of art indeed, which I had completely forgotten until now.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:26 • by Quining (unregistered)
I'm guessing 'slipper' is a mistranslation of "Sled" or "Slide"?

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:27 • by adam (unregistered)
That has got to be the worst translation of of an instruction manual I've ever seen.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:27 • by bjeeb (unregistered)
Poring, for the love of god, poring! #correction

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:28 • by Shaggy 2 Dope (unregistered)
351775 in reply to 351769
Carlos:
But the question is : how do magnets work?

If you find out, please don't tell me. I'd rather not know.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:29 • by bertram
Obligatory "in Soviet Russia, manual installs you" type quip.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:31 • by silent d (unregistered)
Well don't leave us in suspense -- will right slippery contain word sign of on carrying the facing the HDD data line is on carrying?


Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:34 • by piskvorr
Well, what exactly *is* the problem with the magnet trick? Makes it much easier to hide from those pesky C-level monkeys with propensity to twiddle anything until it breaks ("I didn't change anything. Well, I did press the Big Red Button; but I mean, what is the button for, if not for pressing?").

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:35 • by Bagel (unregistered)
351779 in reply to 351766
I agree. I think a reed switch is a slick solution, rather than having to blindly stab a paper clip through a small hole in the case, hopefully hitting a switch that doesn't have enough of a click to let me know I hit anything at all. And then probably hold the switch for at least 15 seconds before seeing any indication that I've done anything.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:37 • by Fred (unregistered)
Because everything you buy for your computer has to have a CD so you can install something, I once got a Dell monitor with a CD.

WTF?

The "installer" basically copies a PDF of the manual to your hard disk.

Of course, it only runs on Windows.

I guess they figured if you're smart enough to have anything else, you're smart enough to figure out how to open a PDF from a CD. Or copy it yourself. Or just plug in the damn cable and forget about TFM.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:44 • by Jay (unregistered)
351783 in reply to 351774
bjeeb:
Poring, for the love of god, poring! #correction


Oh, I thought he was pouring gravy onto his hard dish.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 12:59 • by C-Octothorpe
351785 in reply to 351762
alegr:
Yo dog, I herd you like installers, so I made an installer for your installation manager installer.

No, no. no... It's:

Yo dog, I herd you like managing your installations, so I made an installation manager installer so you can install your installation manager while you manage your installations.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:07 • by airdrik (unregistered)
So I was installation manager the install of hard dish when slippery the managing word sign carrying. Error'd the managing install so single press down on installation but didn't working. Can someone help please?

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:08 • by zunesis (unregistered)
351787 in reply to 351785
C-Octothorpe:
alegr:
Yo dog, I herd you like installers, so I made an installer for your installation manager installer.

No, no. no... It's:

Yo dog, I herd you like managing your installations, so I made an installation manager installer so you can install your installation manager while you manage your installations.


Hey, nice work! You're so much smarter than that guy, being able to cite memes and all. Thank God for you, C-Octothorpe. The contributions you add to the comments are just so important.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:09 • by C-Octothorpe
351788 in reply to 351787
zunesis:
C-Octothorpe:
alegr:
Yo dog, I herd you like installers, so I made an installer for your installation manager installer.

No, no. no... It's:

Yo dog, I herd you like managing your installations, so I made an installation manager installer so you can install your installation manager while you manage your installations.


Hey, nice work! You're so much smarter than that guy, being able to cite memes and all. Thank God for you, C-Octothorpe. The contributions you add to the comments are just so important.


Glad I can help.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:11 • by C-Octothorpe
Obviously the comments were written by a neural network.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:11 • by FlyboyFred (unregistered)
351790 in reply to 351770
Jack:
That's not Engrish.

That's not even bad Engrish.

That is an alien intelligence attempting to make contact with the human race. See, it isn't as easy as we thought, establishing a meaningful understanding from which to start decoding each other's languages...


Exactly, except for the intelligence part.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:13 • by Hortical (unregistered)
351791 in reply to 351785
Anyone smell that? It's the odd stench of an unjustified superiority complex.

Oh, wait, here it is:

C-Octothorpe:

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:14 • by Meep (unregistered)
351792 in reply to 351764
Childish:
It turns out that the plastic switch was the reset button. Find the air slot on the side of the Mac Plus, & snap it in. Since Macintosh was user friendly, they didn't want regular people to have a reset switch.


Regular people don't want a reset switch, they want their computer to not crash.

Before System 6 introduced multitasking, Macs were incredibly stable. If you had a reset switch, all you gained was the possibility of accidentally pressing it and losing all your work.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:16 • by Meep (unregistered)
351793 in reply to 351791
Hortical:
Anyone smell that? It's the odd stench of an unjustified superiority complex.

Oh, wait, here it is:

C-Octothorpe:


You sound like my ex.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:17 • by C-Octothorpe
351794 in reply to 351791
Hortical:
Anyone smell that? It's the odd stench of an unjustified superiority complex.

Oh, wait, here it is:

C-Octothorpe:


Oh wow, you actually think I care what an anonymous loser on a forum thinks of me. Cool!

AND you even took the time to tell everyone about it...

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:19 • by Joe (unregistered)
351795 in reply to 351792
Meep:

Before System 6 introduced multitasking, Macs were incredibly stable.


Yeah, and before v1.0 introduced "booting", so was MSDOS.

--Joe

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:20 • by anon (unregistered)
351796 in reply to 351782
Fred:
Because everything you buy for your computer has to have a CD so you can install something, I once got a Dell monitor with a CD.

WTF?

The "installer" basically copies a PDF of the manual to your hard disk.

Of course, it only runs on Windows.

I guess they figured if you're smart enough to have anything else, you're smart enough to figure out how to open a PDF from a CD. Or copy it yourself. Or just plug in the damn cable and forget about TFM.


Just about every monitor comes with a disc, usually containing the manuals and the driver. Yes, every monitor has a driver, which tells the machine what capabilities (resolution, refresh rate) it has. Now tons of monitor drivers are included with OSes by default, and the generic driver will work pretty well for just about every monitor, but there are a lot of scenarios where the driver can be necessary or at least useful

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:20 • by Hortical (unregistered)
351797 in reply to 351794
C-Octothorpe:
Hortical:
Anyone smell that? It's the odd stench of an unjustified superiority complex.

Oh, wait, here it is:

C-Octothorpe:


Oh wow, you actually think I care what an anonymous loser on a forum thinks of me. Cool!

AND you take the time to tell everyone about it...


Then why are you responding? You wouldn't feel motivated to respond unless I was getting to you.

For instance, when you respond to this post, it will be with an explanation of how I'm not getting to you, but you feel the need to post it because the idea that I'm getting to you bothers you enough that you feel the need to post!

Don't be so predictable.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:21 • by Aaron (unregistered)
The whole Rational tool set was designed and written by a sadist with a deep, personal hatred of developers. That's the only possible explanation for it.

The fact that it actually does some awesome stuff when it deigns to work just makes it more evil.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:23 • by Meep (unregistered)
351799 in reply to 351794
C-Octothorpe:
Hortical:
Anyone smell that? It's the odd stench of an unjustified superiority complex.

Oh, wait, here it is:

C-Octothorpe:


Oh wow, you actually think I care what an anonymous loser on a forum thinks of me. Cool!

AND you even took the time to tell everyone about it...


And then you take the time to reply to him...

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:27 • by Meep (unregistered)
351800 in reply to 351795
Joe:
Meep:

Before System 6 introduced multitasking, Macs were incredibly stable.


Yeah, and before v1.0 introduced "booting", so was MSDOS.

--Joe


DOS was stable if you didn't have too many TSRs running, and didn't use weird hardware. It was still a PITA to configure, though, considering how many times you'd have to reboot to test your damned config scripts and how lame COMMAND.COM was as a shell language.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:43 • by RogerC
351804 in reply to 351773
adam:
That has got to be the worst translation of of an instruction manual I've ever seen.

Then you were not reading TDWTF when this was posted.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:46 • by honnza (unregistered)
351805 in reply to 351796
As far as I know, this information is negotiated between the display unit and the graphics chip via (in case of VGA) a pair of pins (12&15) running the I2C protocol.

Captcha: Incassum - in vain (latin)

In cassum cadunt omnia tua promissa.
All your promises are in vain.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:48 • by CoderHero (unregistered)
351806 in reply to 351757
Lockwood:
I was going to comment on the comment manager comment manager comment, but I had a problem with my hard dish and couldn't find a magnet.

There's your problem! Magnets and hard disks don't mix.

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:57 • by Doug (unregistered)
If you've never had to install IBM Rational ClearCase, consider yourself lucky. On the pain scale, it sits right between taking your bottom lip and stretching it over your head to the back of your neck, and actually using Rational ClearCase.


So ... it's less painful than childbirth?

(see also: "Bill Cosby: Himself")

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 13:59 • by untalented_newbie
Am I the only one who thought instruction #5 should have been 'Be attitude for gains', or that the heading for the manual's 'Troubleshooting' section should be 'You fail it, your skill is not enough'?

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 14:02 • by Hortical (unregistered)
351810 in reply to 351806
CoderHero:
Lockwood:
I was going to comment on the comment manager comment manager comment, but I had a problem with my hard dish and couldn't find a magnet.

There's your problem! Magnets and hard disks don't mix.


Oh, you said *disks*... Sorry, my mind was wandering. :P

Re: Unstructions: The Factory Reset, Irrational Installation, and Installs the Manual

2011-06-30 14:18 • by Anon (unregistered)
It is factory reset. I don't see how this is much worse than for example, including a little hole into which you have to put a needle to reset a calculator. In fact, it is actually not bad... You wouldn't want people to accidentally reset to factory settings whenever they fiddle with the buttons.

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