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It's so not fair... Why couldn't I have been a highly paid software developer in the late bubble years? I would love a year or two of paid Magic: The Gathering.
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Sweet merciful christ. Where was this job when I graduated college? I want to sit around doing nothing all day...
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Something needed to be done. Declare bankruptcy? |
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Oh look, a traffic accident, let's invest! Actually, if you subsidized car insurance for drivers with really bad driving records, you stand a good chance of THOUSANDS of people seeing your ads on the sides of the car as the rubberneck past the accidents they get involved in. Anyone who wants is free to run with that idea, just don't ever use my name. |
Re: Virtudyne: The Gathering
2006-10-11 13:21
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Who wants to know
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WOW, I'm with YOU! Forget what I said about dream, etc.... They wanted this to be multiplatform? 8-) Multiplatform and Microsoft don't mix! Steve |
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I am LOVING this.
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Let me guess about the other 100M dollar.... "Look, we've got the product... now we have to port it to Linux. For that we must make a Visual Basic-compatible program for Linux. We'll need 100M dollar for that. Oh, but don't worry, it'll only take 6 months... we'll do it in Visual Basic!" |
Cough, cough. I guess this might result in the CEO buying his own software to be used in his own company. Imaginary sales. Yea, this happened once - one of our sales guys started using our own management-induced WTF-loaded software to ensure that the people investing in the product would see purchase orders. Oh, he (the salesman) wasnt happy about the self-imposed decision though. Last time I checked, they were about to shut shop. |
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Reading this makes me literally sick to the stomach. Not because of the waste of money (although I know a few start-ups that could have actually used it productively), but because this kind of incompetency is all too common.
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What? You mean suckering onto a project that is not just dying, but is an abomination against nature/science/god/satan/decency/earthworms/compost-heaps and Mom's apple pie that is screaming in ear-piercing agony "I WAS NEVER MEANT TO LIVE" just so you can get piles of cash, doughnuts and Magic-playing time doesn't constitute being"experienced"? Try telling that to Paula. She'd laugh in your face, and show you her PHD in "brillancy" from the Second-Floor Holywood College for Wood-Engraving and Computer Science. Lordy, Lordy... I've been idolizing the wrong people all along. That must be why I'm so poor. Being a Remora must really suck. |
Let me guess... Lay off all of the underpaid, steady working developers that do all the work, and keep the high profile "super-star" developers who can't code? |
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It's like watching a horror movie. You know everyone is going to die a bloody, and very predicable, death. Nevertheless, even though you still scream "don't go into the pitch black basement alone!", they ALWAYS go into the basement alone, and they always die. Do you hear me, Virtudyne?? DON'T GO INTO THE BASEMENT!!
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SHH! You're going to ruin the ending! |
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This is one of those kinds of stories where you can see the end result coming a mile away, but you can't help watching the whole train wreck occur. Piddling six months away (when the entire production cycle was supposed to be six months), then slapping together a hardcoded functionless GUI for a demo that doesn't actually do anything? BRILLANT! Bonus points for wowing the investors enough to make them believe that this festering pile of scat could actually compete with MS Office. *grabs a bag of popcorn* |
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I would want to be on the QA team. With this kind of scenario you could just sit there, and shout out a code line and a possible error and almost always be right. "Line 86 of you class! There is a null pointer exception... ummm... with the... ummm... private void Form1_Load class... Yeah!" Captcha := "Was actually 1337" |
Scene 1 Patient : Doctor, it hurts when I hit myself here. Doctor : Then dont hit yourself there.
Scene 2 We (all of us here) : Sir, it hurts when hit us here. PHB : No, I must hit. It's good for you.
Very real. And yet, we dont show some spine when it matters most. |
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Thank goodness that the Chief Information
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Show code baby.... Many a product started being sold after it "worked" at a trade show. Scary... seriously scary.
Captcha: Hacker... 'hax0r' didn't work :-/ |
That one caused actual, physical pain. |
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<geekness> *ahem* The Real WTF is that the card background is green, rather than gold--as is appropriate for a multi-color, pre-8th edition card--and that the limitation "cannot be used as an instant" does not indicate when the ability may be used. </geekness> Anyways, props to Alex for the hillarious MTG card. [Note from Alex: Thanks, it was pretty easy to make a program I stumbled across called MTG GenCard. FWIW, the border was actually gold, the resizing/compressing seems to have toned it down] |
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I love the spend 5 mana to get 1 back on the card.
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This is almost as anticipating as Entourage or Band of Brothers. HBO is looking at you next Alex! I can't wait to see the rest of this!
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Re: Virtudyne: The Gathering
2006-10-11 14:19
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It's me remember?
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...Try telling that to Paula. She'd laugh in your face, and show you her PHD in "brillancy" from the Second-Floor Holywood...
So that's were the extra L came from. |
It should say: "This ability may only be used as a sorcery." Because that effect would normally be classified as a "mana effect" which has no strict timing normally (otherwise you couldn't tap lands to cast instants in response to other instants because the stack would be fubared). Of course restricting a mana effect to sorcery timing is the real WTF here. |
I am SO grateful that I had no idea that's what it meant.
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But...what happened to the "h" in "where"?
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We've had Virtudyne: The Founding and Virtudyne: The Gathering Hey, my captcha is "paula" Brillant! |
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"Though his team's competence was minimal, their confidence was as strong as ever." That's my new favorite WTF line... Sure we're a bunch of inexperienced dolts, but we're sure we can take on the biggest software company in the world. No problem.... -Me |
I still find it so funny how they think that they can get a VB6 app to run on non-MS operating systems... lol...
I love the card too, I haven't played in like.... 10 years... but I remember the rules still... lol.... a 0/2 creature with 6 casting cost is outrageous lol... and it's THREE colors lol... and to top it all off, you can spend FIVE mana to gain ONE lol.... PERFECT card lol... |
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There are different types of people. For example, some people make money, other people write stories about people making money....
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I fhound it! |
Re: Virtudyne: The Gathering
2006-10-11 15:08
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my name is missing
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When you need a few $ to make a good idea happen, people tell you to get lost. When you ask for a few $100 mililion, they give it to you, I guess I'm too cheap.
I remember once being asked to "fix" a medical office program where the developers had spent millions on development. They had been so secretive that no developer was allowed to have all the source code or even the design. In the end 40 developers wrote 40 different silos of the application. Of course it was a complete disaster. The lawsuits continue to this day.... |
What work? Pay attention! |
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I wonder if it's an accident that this four-part series will end on Friday the 13th.
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Re: Virtudyne: The Gathering
2006-10-11 15:16
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Alexis de Torquemada
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And point fingers... |
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<groan> where were we when wildspending willy wound up rich? <groan/> btw I ran into a similar scenario: some electrical engineer was touching wires together under a table to woo their customers into thinking the telephone would ring when they pressed the magic "call" button to make the phone ring. Don't worry! It works as promised! Sad to say the company is still around and does government work <yikes!/> as the electrical engineer is the head honcho now and has actual *gurus* coding for him who suck btw... |
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Is there some strange connection between M:TG and WTFs? The best two ilustrations up to now were the mtg cards. Googles and Virtudyne CIO are GREAT! And surprisingly they are good quality also (apart from the gold / multicolor stuff ;) ). Or maybe it's just M:TG that is funny? monty python anyone? I'm awaiting for a full WTF set... |
Warning to all!
It is bad luck to be superstitious. |
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A "$94M war chest" dwindles to a mere "$10M" and they still can't even have a basic word processor up and running? The real WTF is that I know I could do better than they did, but don't have a clue how to get a bunch of rich morons to fund my long paid vacation. ;) I knew I did something wrong when I wasted time learning how to actually do things. |
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More importantly, this thread has made me nostalgic for M:TG again. I haven't played it since the 4th Ed. days. I really need to find a way to make that old Win95 M:TG PC game work on my current system, since playing against the AI is far easier than spending gobs of money on a real deck and finding other people who feel like doing the same. Though perhaps buying real cards would be a /little/ less of a financial burden for me now with a full-time job out of college as opposed to when I was playing in the 5th grade and earning like $5 a week. |
I'm hoping for Virtudyne: The Quickening ("There can be only one... office suite.") . |
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To illustrate how a person can possibly have gotten away with "The Story, Thus Far..." I think it's time for a math/physics lesson. Attend me carefully. It's a well known physics law that power is equal to work divided by time: P = W/T It's a well known pop-cultural fact that Time is Money: T = $ It's a lessor known (but oft management-quoted) pop-fact that Knowledge is Power: K = P Let us know substitute the later two facts into the original equation for work... K = W/$ Now, we're all curious as to the magical equation for how to make money... so let's rearrange our new formula: $ = W/K Now time for the math-part... anyone who has studied fractions knows that as the lower half of the fraction gets smaller, the output gets larger and larger... from this simple fact, we can deduce three things... Attend me closely... Not that close... Ok... 1) The less you know, the more money you make. Any questions class? Yes? No, you can't go to the bathroom. Ever again. |
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Thanks CodeReaper. You just put my entire life into perspective. Now, as I take this drill to my brain, I expect to put Bill Gates earnings to shame. |
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Hate to sidetrack further, but the new set that just released, "Time Spiral", is really sweet. It contains reprints of cards from just about every set prior and has a bunch of new cards directly inspired by older cards. |
Re: Virtudyne: The Gathering
2006-10-11 17:21
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not saying...
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So, $200m to take on MS-Office' with 100 developers.... last time I worked with them, there were 10,000+ people under the Office product (ok, most of them were marketing / sales), but they had several $bn in investment just to do the next release of the product... Hell, MSN have a few $bn of funding and some several thousand developers just over the next few years... |
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I wonder how much Rob Graves (pseudonym) is really responsible for the percieved failures of this company. Obviously he thinks highly of his talents, since he wrote the article, and very little of others. People like this are suspect in my opinion. Not that the story isn't true but he will refuse to believe he was a part of any failure he percieves real or not
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This is 1999, and VB6 is not only the king of the desktop, but also the king of COM, COM+, ActiveX and Microsoft Transaction Server. There is virtually nothing that cannot be done in VB6. (Just like C# and Java* today)
* ok, Java on the desktop... let's avoid answering this question by claiming "the desktop is not important anymore, the network is the computer(R)" |
Re: Virtudyne: The Gathering- Byrds of a feather
2006-10-11 18:03
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Given the whole story, do you really think that any technician, not matter how talented or not, can be more than 0.0001% responsible for the failure of "the VB6 office killer" project? |
That reminds me of this poster from Despair.com |
Re: Virtudyne: The Gathering
2006-10-11 18:54
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this reminds me of my time in the military when every now and then some idiot would say "We need to run the Navy like a business!" yup, just like 'Virtudyne'
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