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Chris got this error while playing around with Xcode. Though he could prove to the contrary, he was given no choice other than to agree. [expand full text]
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Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 06:07 • by Cbuttius
I do exFR1ST you know. Now feature this.. or I will never go away.

Incidentally with regards that telephone number, the real WTF is that after the +44 the next digit is an 8.

Means they probably have one of those 0845 numbers that are fobbed off as "local rate" but are not included in inclusive packages and that make megabucks for telephony providers who charge extortionate rates to call them.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 06:17 • by RuBen (unregistered)
At least the phone number has a fallback: "If not in put behind flowers". I shoould check your garden for the real phone number

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 06:18 • by Steve (unregistered)
386878 in reply to 386876
Cbuttius:
I do exFR1ST you know. Now feature this.. or I will never go away.

Incidentally with regards that telephone number, the real WTF is that after the +44 the next digit is an 8.

Means they probably have one of those 0845 numbers that are fobbed off as "local rate" but are not included in inclusive packages and that make megabucks for telephony providers who charge extortionate rates to call them.



BT include them in the inclusive mins of their packages.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 06:22 • by MiffTheFox
"VBScript: File Transfer Manager"

TRWTF?

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 06:23 • by Thomas (unregistered)
The "You don't exist" message is presumably from git, which had this cute message in pre-v1.7.11 when getpwuid(getuid()) fails. In which case it would be fair to conclude that your current user does indeed not exist....

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 06:33 • by asdf (unregistered)
"You Don't Exist. Go Away!" is much older than that, login command from linux's sysutils package require syslog and some other logs up and running in order to manage user's logins. That message usually appeared when you tried to logout.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 06:56 • by anonymous (unregistered)
386884 in reply to 386881
I think I remember that from Ultrix, when trying to talk to someone who wasn't in the utmp file.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 07:05 • by John (unregistered)
What's the problem with the first one, somebody obviously set up the computer to turn off the display 76 seconds before you stop using it. Think of the energy savings.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 07:06 • by John (unregistered)
386886 in reply to 386885
John:
What's the problem with the first one, somebody obviously set up the computer to turn off the display 76 seconds before you stop using it. Think of the energy savings.


Aargh, second one. I blame time dilation.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 07:10 • by Foo Bar (unregistered)
http://www.google.com/search?q=passwd+you+dont+exist+go+away+1970..1999

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 07:15 • by Brandon (unregistered)
What is the WTF with the kbb image? A lot of cars come with accessory packages that are known only by their package number, which is assigned to them by the manufacture.

storing phone numbers in doubles

2012-08-10 07:23 • by faoileag (unregistered)
But, but, storing telephone numbers in doubles is the perfect solution for the uninitiated! The decimal point makes such a nice separator between exchange and number!!

Actually, its just another aspect of the old fact that a lot of people *don't know how floating point numbers are handled by a computer*.

A WTF, sure, but a common one. I do not want to know how many sums (of money) are stored in doubles, and in what software - it would probably keep me from sleeping at night.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 07:27 • by ekolis
I thought "You don't exist. Go away!" is fatal only to fairies...

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 07:30 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
Hasn't anyone considered the possibility that the person who received that error message really didn't exist and shouldn't be bothering that poor program to deal with non-existent persons?

I think I am going to make a custom exception like "Damn You! You found my one weakness!" and throw it arbitrarily under the File > New option.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 07:31 • by Cbuttius
The real WTF is that if you don't exist you can't do anything, not even go away.

136.102 years

2012-08-10 07:31 • by faoileag (unregistered)
The 1193046 hrs 27 mins is actually MAXINT seconds - 76 (on a 32 bit system).
I wonder how the 76 seconds got lost... did we have that many leap seconds since 1.1.1970?

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 07:31 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
386895 in reply to 386891
ekolis:
I thought "You don't exist. Go away!" is fatal only to fairies...


We live in a politically correct world... you are supposed to call them queers.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 07:32 • by faoileag (unregistered)
And of course the real WTF is a Volkswagen Jetta.

Re: storing phone numbers in doubles

2012-08-10 07:33 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
386898 in reply to 386890
faoileag:
But, but, storing telephone numbers in doubles is the perfect solution for the uninitiated! The decimal point makes such a nice separator between exchange and number!!

Actually, its just another aspect of the old fact that a lot of people *don't know how floating point numbers are handled by a computer*.

A WTF, sure, but a common one. I do not want to know how many sums (of money) are stored in doubles, and in what software - it would probably keep me from sleeping at night.

yea... well, try storing telephone numbers in any numeric format in Excel! THERE is a WTF for you.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 07:33 • by Cbuttius
the real WTF is what follows SMT and comes before S

Re: storing phone numbers in doubles

2012-08-10 07:36 • by Whiner (unregistered)
386900 in reply to 386890
faoileag:
a lot of people *don't know how floating point numbers are handled by a computer*.
But why should we have to know anything? All that geeky stuff is supposed to be abstracted away! Computers should be designed so that the proudest most ignorant lamer can do just as well as a CS grad, if not better! This is really just another failure of everybody-but-me.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 07:37 • by Bill P. Godfrey (unregistered)
Don't exist? Try thinking.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 07:42 • by Cbuttius
386902 in reply to 386878

BT include them in the inclusive mins of their packages.


I'd have to see what the full package would be. Virgin have fibre-optic broadband and a good TV service. I subscribe to Sky Sports and no way am I ever going to use YouView so any broadband package that includes that as the TV service will never have me as a customer.

And no mobile phone service offers inclusive 0845 numbers.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 07:51 • by Larry (unregistered)
386903 in reply to 386901
Bill P. Godfrey:
Don't exist? Try thinking.
I did once, but damn, that is so fucking painful. There must be another way.

Re: storing phone numbers in doubles

2012-08-10 07:53 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
386904 in reply to 386900
Whiner:
faoileag:
a lot of people *don't know how floating point numbers are handled by a computer*.
But why should we have to know anything? All that geeky stuff is supposed to be abstracted away! Computers should be designed so that the proudest most ignorant lamer can do just as well as a CS grad, if not better! This is really just another failure of everybody-but-me.


In my experience... ignorant programmers tend to do much better than CS grads... but then, I suppose I could incite a riot if I started ragging on college programmers. I'll do my best to keep my prejudices to myself.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 07:55 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
386905 in reply to 386903
Larry:
Bill P. Godfrey:
Don't exist? Try thinking.
I did once, but damn, that is so fucking painful. There must be another way.


fart... and if you can smell it, then you can be reasonably certain that whomever caused the smell did in fact exist.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 08:07 • by Uncle Slacky (unregistered)
386906 in reply to 386876
I think the "8" may have been rounded up from the more likely value "7".

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 08:13 • by Alexander Ragtime Bell (unregistered)
"Who on earth stores phone numbers in a numeric field?"

You'd be surprised. We got into the habit of doing a descending sort on phone numbers to be loaded into a machine we have, since otherwise the loading widget would conclude that they were 32-bit integers and fail when it got to (say) Massachusetts and a 617 area code. Internally, it is true, the machine stored them as VARCHARs.

And don't get me started on the software that barfed when it hit a "house number" such as 125E....

Captcha: odio, the ablative of odium...

(And why is a guy named Papadimoulis giving us all these Latin captchas? Where's the Greek patriotism?)

Re: storing phone numbers in doubles

2012-08-10 08:19 • by Remy Porter
386909 in reply to 386904
It depends on the kind of college programmers. I've seen a lot of colleges that basically try and make any IT-related degree a Vo-tec program. Then there are other schools that have a real CS program that actually teaches people things. There are a lot more of the former than the latter.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 08:32 • by Lindsay M (unregistered)
>"Who on earth stores phone numbers in a numeric field?"

Alas, I've seen it done several times.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 08:45 • by Remy Porter
386912 in reply to 386911
I used to train programmers, and my first lesson was: "I don't care what you call it- if you aren't going to use it in mathematical expressions, it isn't a number. PINs, phone numbers, zip codes, SSNs, etc.- they are all text."

And then people would go and hand me programs that treated each one of them as an integer.

Re: storing phone numbers in doubles

2012-08-10 08:48 • by dkf
386914 in reply to 386890
faoileag:
But, but, storing telephone numbers in doubles is the perfect solution for the uninitiated! The decimal point makes such a nice separator between exchange and number!!
What's even better is that it supports automatic anonymization for TDWTF!

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 08:49 • by moz (unregistered)
386915 in reply to 386893
Cbuttius:
The real WTF is that if you don't exist you can't do anything, not even go away.

But then again, there's no harm in asking.

Re: storing phone numbers in doubles

2012-08-10 08:50 • by PedanticCurmudgeon
386916 in reply to 386890
faoileag:
But, but, storing telephone numbers in doubles is the perfect solution for the uninitiated! The decimal point makes such a nice separator between exchange and number!!

Actually, its just another aspect of the old fact that a lot of people *don't know how floating point numbers are handled by a computer*.

A WTF, sure, but a common one. I do not want to know how many sums (of money) are stored in doubles, and in what software - it would probably keep me from sleeping at night.
You don't exist. Go away!

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 08:55 • by PedanticCurmudgeon
Relevant poem:
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn’t there
He wasn’t there again today
I wish, I wish he’d go away...

When I came home last night at three
The man was waiting there for me
But when I looked around the hall
I couldn’t see him there at all!
Go away, go away, don’t you come back any more!
Go away, go away, and please don’t slam the door... (slam!)

Last night I saw upon the stair
A little man who wasn’t there
He wasn’t there again today
Oh, how I wish he’d go away

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 09:02 • by bhtooefr (unregistered)
386918 in reply to 386888
And in 2006, VWs didn't have trim levels, they had packages on the Jetta.

Not familiar with the packages on the 2.0Ts, but on the TDIs, it went something like this:

Package 0 (no packages selected): Pleather, no trip computer, CD changer with MP3, ordinary HVAC
Package 1: I think added sunroof and Sirius to Package 0
Package 2: Added real leather, trip computer, climate control to Package 1

I'd guess that Package 3 on a 2.0T would be HIDs or something like that, on top of Package 2.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 09:05 • by Cbuttius
386919 in reply to 386906
Uncle Slacky:
I think the "8" may have been rounded up from the more likely value "7".


Difficult to know as 0845 would round down to an 8 but some mobile numbers like mine which begins 0795 would round up to an 8.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 09:09 • by Cbuttius
386920 in reply to 386912
Remy Porter:
I used to train programmers, and my first lesson was: "I don't care what you call it- if you aren't going to use it in mathematical expressions, it isn't a number. PINs, phone numbers, zip codes, SSNs, etc.- they are all text."

And then people would go and hand me programs that treated each one of them as an integer.


What would you consider enumerations to be?

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 09:25 • by FrostCat
One wonders why a simple POS terminal needs to be written in .Net. Seems like overkill. Reminds me of this great story: http://www.ganssle.com/articles/toastallessons.htm

Representative line: " "With a computer our customer can load the bread the night before, program a finish time, and be presented with the perfect slice of toast when he awakens", Bob intoned as if reading from a script. "

I wonder what toast made with stale bread tastes like?

Re: #5 ("Who on earth stores phone numbers in a numeric field?")

2012-08-10 09:32 • by Jon (unregistered)
Classic copy paste into Excel and mail merge - happens all the time.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 09:34 • by FrostCat
386923 in reply to 386920
Cbuttius:
Remy Porter:
I used to train programmers, and my first lesson was: "I don't care what you call it- if you aren't going to use it in mathematical expressions, it isn't a number. PINs, phone numbers, zip codes, SSNs, etc.- they are all text."

And then people would go and hand me programs that treated each one of them as an integer.


What would you consider enumerations to be?


Opaque. You should almost never have to care about the value of a particular enum.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 09:35 • by Bob (unregistered)
Who the hell leaves an $8.02 tip?

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 09:39 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
386925 in reply to 386921
FrostCat:
One wonders why a simple POS terminal needs to be written in .Net. Seems like overkill.


Perhaps writing it in javascript would make more sense to you.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 09:40 • by Nagesh (unregistered)
386926 in reply to 386924
Bob:
Who the hell leaves an $8.02 tip?
Someone who can't do (approx.) 15% without a calculator.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 09:41 • by Nagesh (unregistered)
386927 in reply to 386911
Lindsay M:
>"Who on earth stores phone numbers in a numeric field?"

Alas, I've seen it done several times.
Yes, I've also been reading this site for a few weeks. :(

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 09:42 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
386928 in reply to 386912
I always enjoy giving a handfull of javascript tasks where javascript is guaranteed to infer a number when a string is meant, and the other way around. I was typically making the same point that you were, and reinforcing the value of strongly typed languages as well.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 09:44 • by golddog (unregistered)
Neil's WTF presumably means he won't make any verizon phone calls in August 2017.

Hope that means he's only gotten a different provider rather than he's dead.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 09:47 • by RichP
The really hot girl I met at the bar last night works at MSDN tech support? Cool!

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 09:51 • by Chelloveck (unregistered)
Can Chris really prove that he exists? Come on, this one's been bugging philosophers for millenia now! If Chris has an air-tight proof he really needs to publish.

Re: You Don't Exist. Go Away!

2012-08-10 09:52 • by Some Jerk (unregistered)
386933 in reply to 386931
RichP:
The really hot girl I met at the bar last night works at MSDN tech support? Cool!


I wonder if she can get an employee discount on a premium subscription. If she could save some $5 or $10 per year... that would be neat :p
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