The ö Alternative

  • Anonymous 2009-06-16 08:03
    ö no! And FIR- oh, never mind.
  • Ian 2009-06-16 08:04
    Now where did I leave that 10PB drive?
  • Fab 2009-06-16 08:07
    Theme Hospital :D

    Soooooo good !
  • ConnectToReality 2009-06-16 08:10
    I abandoned all hope a long time ago. About the time I started viewing this site
  • Fredrik 2009-06-16 08:13
    5.99 petabyte?

    I hope Windows 7 has a less bloated desktop.
  • Hiekkaa 2009-06-16 08:15
    The file name implies that that IS windows 7.
  • Mark 2009-06-16 08:16
    I'm glad it specifies only 5.99PB. I'd hate to waste my money on a 6PB drive only to have 10TB left over with nothing to use it for.

    And anyway 5.99PB should be enough for anyone!

    Hey, wait a second... is that a petabyte or a pebibyte? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebibyte
  • amischiefr 2009-06-16 08:16
    What, doesn't everybody have a 100 Peta byte hard drive these days? I thought that was standard.
  • Luser Support 2009-06-16 08:22
    As you may notice, the ~6PB is to be downloaded to someone's desktop. So, obviously, some granny upgraded to MSIE 8, went to google, and right-clicked save to desktop. She's making a copy of the entire Internet!
  • Fab 2009-06-16 08:23
    Chinese should also learn Austria is not a city.
  • Jer Null 2009-06-16 08:26
    Yeah, it starts with a measly 6PB, but by the time the journaling file system gets done with it, and hands it off to the search indexer thingie, we're looking at 14PB minimum. Now let's hope you don't actually try to open it, because that makes two temporary copies even if you don't change anything.
  • Stu Dent 2009-06-16 08:27
    Fab:
    Chinese should also learn Austria is not a city.

    Right. It's the world's largest island. Or smallest continent. My teacher never seemed quite sure.
  • RandomUser423652 2009-06-16 08:33
    Mark:
    Hey, wait a second... is that a petabyte or a pebibyte?
    Why it's very clear: petabyte. It it were asking for pebibytes, it would say 5.99PiB.

    ...

    Or not.
  • Green 2009-06-16 08:35
    Note that it is Austria and not Australia.
  • Bob 2009-06-16 08:36
    Green:
    Note that it is Austria and not Australia.


    Also note "whooooosh".
  • MadJo@Work 2009-06-16 08:37
    Stu Dent:
    Fab:
    Chinese should also learn Austria is not a city.

    Right. It's the world's largest island. Or smallest continent. My teacher never seemed quite sure.

    Hahaha, I hope you were joking. :)
    Otherwise your teacher might need a class or two more.
    Austria != Australia.
  • Jay Jay 2009-06-16 08:41
    Green:
    Note that it is Austria and not Australia.


    Wow. I could hear the whoosh of that going over your head from here...
  • JoLoCo 2009-06-16 08:41
    MadJo@Work:

    Hahaha, I hope you were joking. :)
    Otherwise your teacher might need a class or two more.
    Austria != Australia.


    Green:
    Note that it is Austria and not Australia.


    You people give geeks a bad name.
  • aka 2009-06-16 08:44
    I originally thought the poor person copying the address down was essentially copying a drawing, much as I would copy down chinese characters, but when you look at it carefully, it was clearly written by someone who had a least a basic idea of english type handwriting. So the box could well have been them being deliberately awkward, or simply having no way of recovering the original character and deciding a rectangle was less confusing than missing it out
  • Neil 2009-06-16 08:49
    @aka

    I'd imagining, that the square was from a font that didn't support that character. It was probably printed/onscreen and then copied by hand. I doubt that the person copying it gave it much thought really.......
  • Stu Dent 2009-06-16 08:50
    JoLoCo:
    MadJo@Work:

    Hahaha, I hope you were joking. :)
    Otherwise your teacher might need a class or two more.
    Austria != Australia.

    Green:
    Note that it is Austria and not Australia.

    You people give geeks a bad name.

    Wow! I got a twofer! Not that I'm surprised. Nobody pays attention to the words anymore. The way things are going I

    Oh, look! Shiny!
  • Neil 2009-06-16 08:50
    @aka

    I'd imagining, that the square was from a font that didn't support that character. It was probably printed/onscreen and then copied by hand. I doubt that the person copying it gave it much thought really.......
  • Whoevar 2009-06-16 08:56
    "apparently, the Chinese folks writing these slips don't have computers that can display the 'ö' character."


    That'll make 5 ? (or squares, if you do not have quotation marks) into the piggi bank for sustaining prejudices.
  • pjt33 2009-06-16 08:59
    Whoevar:
    "apparently, the Chinese folks writing these slips don't have computers that can display the 'ö' character."


    That'll make 5 ? (or squares, if you do not have quotation marks) into the piggi bank for sustaining prejudices.

    Given that the label is clearly printed in Chinese, it's a reasonable assumption that the person filling it in was also Chinese. In fact the person who submitted the WTF may have known that they were purchasing from a Chinese company. Fancy knowing who you're doing business with!
  • Tim 2009-06-16 09:01
    Kibi, mebi etc. were a terrible idea. They're phonetically ugly and sound like very unprofessional. It would be embarrassing to say them.

    *That's* why nobody uses them.
  • LotusCMS 2009-06-16 09:14
    amischiefr:
    What, doesn't everybody have a 100 Peta byte hard drive these days? I thought that was standard.


    I'm a little afraid, I don't think he's lying.

    CAPTCHA: nulla
  • zbe 2009-06-16 09:18
    i'm just glad that i don't have to write a chinese address... that would look like 上海 to me

    [those boxes with numbers that firefox uses for unicode characters]
  • Talking Head 2009-06-16 09:24
    LotusCMS:
    amischiefr:
    What, doesn't everybody have a 100 Peta byte hard drive these days? I thought that was standard.

    I'm a little afraid, I don't think he's lying.

    You're going to need 100PB for the full-screen digital video of a newsbabe showing you how to click the start button (and every other user interface element).

    But I bet they'll still say "click the defranglinder checkbox if you want to enable defranglinding" without ever telling you what defranglinding is or why you might or might not want it.
  • hatterson 2009-06-16 09:24
    Fab:
    Chinese should also learn Austria is not a city.

    Austria..heh heh...well then...G'day mate...let's put another shrimp on the barbie.
  • JustSomeGuy 2009-06-16 09:41
    RandomUser423652:


    Why it's very clear: petabyte. It it were asking for pebibytes, it would say 5.99PiB.

    ...

    Or not.


    It's ok to quote XKCD by proxy then?
  • Tim 2009-06-16 09:48
    Couldn't that have been a Zip bomb?
  • brazzy 2009-06-16 09:53
    Jay Jay:
    Wow. I could hear the whoosh of that going over your head from here...

    No, that was the sound of an incestual rapist riding a kangaroo to town to get some Apfelstrudel after a hard day of Opal mining.
  • dkf 2009-06-16 09:55
    Fab:
    Chinese should also learn Austria is not a city.
    They'll be OK if they avoid the drop bears and the strudel.
  • GalacticCowboy 2009-06-16 09:58
    Stu Dent:
    JoLoCo:
    MadJo@Work:

    Hahaha, I hope you were joking. :)
    Otherwise your teacher might need a class or two more.
    Austria != Australia.

    Green:
    Note that it is Austria and not Australia.

    You people give geeks a bad name.

    Wow! I got a twofer! Not that I'm surprised. Nobody pays attention to the words anymore. The way things are going I

    Oh, look! Shiny!


    So you suffer from ADOS? Attention Deficit Ooh Shiny
  • lolwtf 2009-06-16 09:58
    The message clearly says they're trying to copy the desktop to the desktop. Obviously they have a huge hard drive, and this created an infinite recursion loop filling it up.
    zbe:
    i'm just glad that i don't have to write a chinese address... that would look like 上海 to me

    [those boxes with numbers that firefox uses for unicode characters]
    Nice example. I see two Chinese characters.
  • RandomUser423652 2009-06-16 10:01
    JustSomeGuy:
    It's ok to quote XKCD by proxy then?
    Pretty sure I was linking Raymond Chen, but yes, I suppose the xkcd link is a bonus.
  • kastein 2009-06-16 10:02
    Corrupted zip files are awesome! Kudos to WinZip for correctly handling the Petabyte prefix though... whoever wrote that part of the code was all about future-proofing. anyone want to bet on whether it'll handle Exabytes, Zettabytes, Yottabytes, Xonabytes, Wekabytes, and Vundabytes as well?

    ... I never even knew the last 3 of those existed as prefixes... http://guymal.com/techCorner/powers.shtml. Who gets naming rights on the one after Vundabytes? Following the backwards-alphabet trend, I think it should be named Uberbytes.

    lolwtf:
    The message clearly says they're trying to copy the desktop to the desktop. Obviously they have a huge hard drive, and this created an infinite recursion loop filling it up.
    zbe:
    i'm just glad that i don't have to write a chinese address... that would look like 上海 to me

    [those boxes with numbers that firefox uses for unicode characters]
    Nice example. I see two Chinese characters.
    Same here... firefox 3. zbe, maybe your fonts are FUBAR?
  • Smash King 2009-06-16 10:07
    I thought I was good at killing rats on Theme Hospital until I saw Christian's prize. The higher I scored was about a measly 98%.

    <sigh> That photo brought back a lot of good memories. It was one of the funniest games I ever played. The diseases' explanation, symptoms and treatment sheet was so full of nonsense it was hilarious. Guess I'll have to dig my TH cd now.
  • Hrrruuuuaaaaarrrrrrwwwwlll 2009-06-16 10:08
    Tim:
    Kibi, mebi etc. were a terrible idea. They're phonetically ugly and sound like very unprofessional. It would be embarrassing to say them.

    *That's* why nobody uses them.


    I totally agree... Having different prefixes for binary units is not a bad idea, but those Mebi etc just sound retarded. I will NEVER use them.
  • methinks 2009-06-16 10:18
    Stu Dent:
    Fab:
    Chinese should also learn Austria is not a city.

    Right. It's the world's largest island. Or smallest continent. My teacher never seemed quite sure.


    so sorry, no kangaroos in Austria... but skiing is great here ;o)
  • Code Dependent 2009-06-16 10:22
    kastein:
    anyone want to bet on whether it'll handle Exabytes, Zettabytes, Yottabytes, Xonabytes, Wekabytes, and Vundabytes as well?
    Shouldn't Trilobytes fit in there somewhere?

    kastein:
    Who gets naming rights on the one after Vundabytes? Following the backwards-alphabet trend, I think it should be named Uberbytes.
    I vote for Godzillabytes.
  • aka 2009-06-16 10:22
    Neil:
    @aka

    I'd imagining, that the square was from a font that didn't support that character. It was probably printed/onscreen and then copied by hand. I doubt that the person copying it gave it much thought really.......


    Well, duh, obviously it was a box on their screen. The copying of the box is the part that was either being awkward or trying to be helpful. (as opposed to not recognising the missing character).
  • Herohtar 2009-06-16 10:24
    Hiekkaa:
    The file name implies that that IS windows 7.


    No, the file name implies nothing. However, the UI implies that the system is at least Vista. Furthermore, the "Send Feedback" in the dialog title implies that it is a beta/RC version of the OS, which one might then assume to be Windows 7.
  • methinks 2009-06-16 10:28
    Tim:
    Kibi, mebi etc. were a terrible idea. They're phonetically ugly and sound like very unprofessional. It would be embarrassing to say them.

    *That's* why nobody uses them.


    No. the manufacturers don't use them because they'd have to build bigger drives (by some multiple of 1.024) while still having to stick to the same size numbers... *very* bad for marketing ;o)
  • random.next 2009-06-16 10:30
    Having an 'ü' in my name, I know the pains of it. Or used to, anyway. Pretty much everything handles it correctly by now.
    Except for Apple's website. Either it rejects my name right away, or transforms the ü into ü.
    I don't like Apple.
  • OldCoder 2009-06-16 10:34
    aka:
    Neil:
    @aka

    I'd imagining, that the square was from a font that didn't support that character. It was probably printed/onscreen and then copied by hand. I doubt that the person copying it gave it much thought really.......


    Well, duh, obviously it was a box on their screen. The copying of the box is the part that was either being awkward or trying to be helpful. (as opposed to not recognising the missing character).

    aaaaand if you were a dispatch clerk who had a box to send with a Chinese address on the screen, you'd attempt to copy it as accurately as you could, wouldn't you? I mean, it's not as if everyone in your part of the world knows the Chinese alphabet intimately, is it?
  • methinks 2009-06-16 10:35
    kastein:

    ... I never even knew the last 3 of those existed as prefixes... http://guymal.com/techCorner/powers.shtml. Who gets naming rights on the one after Vundabytes? Following the backwards-alphabet trend, I think it should be named Uberbytes.


    As we are talking german umlauts here (i.e. the Ö in the article), this should of course correctly read:

    Überbytes

    :o)
    (or Ueberbytes, if you care to avoid the cited font problems...)
  • Synchronos 2009-06-16 10:37
    Herohtar:
    Hiekkaa:
    The file name implies that that IS windows 7.


    No, the file name implies nothing. However, the UI implies that the system is at least Vista. Furthermore, the "Send Feedback" in the dialog title implies that it is a beta/RC version of the OS, which one might then assume to be Windows 7.


    Here's some implication for you:

    http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200906/errord/Win7ExplorerError.png

    PS. Would like to see the subtitles of the M□nti Pyth□n ik den H□lie Gr□ilen on those Chinese folks' computers
  • What? 2009-06-16 10:40
    brazzy:
    Jay Jay:
    Wow. I could hear the whoosh of that going over your head from here...

    No, that was the sound of an incestual rapist riding a kangaroo to town to get some Apfelstrudel after a hard day of Opal mining.


    What?
  • Code Dependent 2009-06-16 10:46
    What?:
    brazzy:
    Jay Jay:
    Wow. I could hear the whoosh of that going over your head from here...
    No, that was the sound of an incestual rapist riding a kangaroo to town to get some Apfelstrudel after a hard day of Opal mining.
    What?
    Hard of hearing? No wonder you thought that sound was a whoosh.
  • null reference 2009-06-16 10:47
    hatterson:
    Fab:
    Chinese should also learn Austria is not a city.

    Austria..heh heh...well then...G'day mate...let's put another shrimp on the barbie.


    We got no food, no jobs... our PET'S HEADS ARE FALLING OFF!"
  • Observer 2009-06-16 10:49
    Stu Dent:
    JoLoCo:
    MadJo@Work:

    Hahaha, I hope you were joking. :)
    Otherwise your teacher might need a class or two more.
    Austria != Australia.

    Green:
    Note that it is Austria and not Australia.

    You people give geeks a bad name.

    Wow! I got a twofer! Not that I'm surprised. Nobody pays attention to the words anymore. The way things are going I

    Oh, look! Shiny!


    Maybe someone can explain why this is funny? Is mixing up Austria and Australia some new meme that I'm not aware of? Is it as simple as being sarcastic and then laughing at people when they thought you were serious? Am I missing something fundamental here?
  • EJ_ 2009-06-16 10:53
    It's not a meme, it's just one person attempting a small bit of levity, and having it go way over (at my count) 4 people's heads.
  • Anonymous 2009-06-16 11:10
    Observer:
    Maybe someone can explain why this is funny? Is mixing up Austria and Australia some new meme that I'm not aware of? Is it as simple as being sarcastic and then laughing at people when they thought you were serious? Am I missing something fundamental here?
    It's a retarded meme that came into fashion after the arrest of Josef Fritzl (which was probably the first time that most Americans even became aware of a weird little country called "Austria"). No it's not funny and no its not new but you know how these pathetic memes work. Business as usual.
  • Tom Wilson 2009-06-16 11:12
    Neil:
    @aka

    I'd imagining, that the square was from a font that didn't support that character. It was probably printed/onscreen and then copied by hand. I doubt that the person copying it gave it much thought really.......


    I love it when people have to explain the joke. :-D
  • null reference 2009-06-16 11:13
    Anonymous:
    which was probably the first time that most Americans even became aware of a weird little country called "Austria"


    Are you kidding? Americans know about Austria because of the hash bars!
  • Rookierookie 2009-06-16 11:14
    It's true that many Asian fontsets don't have weird characters like ö in it.

    I run Chinese Windows, and I have always had a load of problem with the modified characters used in French, Italian, German, etc. I actually had to go into the game files of Civ 4 to edit a lot of XML strings that were broken this way before the game would run properly.
  • Anonymous 2009-06-16 11:18
    Tim:
    Kibi, mebi etc. were a terrible idea. They're phonetically ugly and sound like very unprofessional. It would be embarrassing to say them.

    *That's* why nobody uses them.
    Well, not quite. Nobody uses them because they have no place in computer science. Bytes are not base 10, end of story. The ONLY reason this stupid construct exists is so hard drive manufacturers can screw us over. The worst thing about this is that as the size of the drives increase, so too does the size of the "loss" due to the hard drive manufacturers using incorrect values for the size of a byte. And of course, they always incorrectly label their drives in KB, MB and GB instead of the standard KiB, MiB and GiB.
  • Anonymous 2009-06-16 11:20
    null reference:
    Anonymous:
    which was probably the first time that most Americans even became aware of a weird little country called "Austria"


    Are you kidding? Americans know about Austria because of the hash bars!
    Nice try my friend! Let's see if anyone else goes for it...
  • MRAB 2009-06-16 11:23
    OldCoder:
    aka:
    Neil:
    @aka

    I'd imagining, that the square was from a font that didn't support that character. It was probably printed/onscreen and then copied by hand. I doubt that the person copying it gave it much thought really.......


    Well, duh, obviously it was a box on their screen. The copying of the box is the part that was either being awkward or trying to be helpful. (as opposed to not recognising the missing character).

    aaaaand if you were a dispatch clerk who had a box to send with a Chinese address on the screen, you'd attempt to copy it as accurately as you could, wouldn't you? I mean, it's not as if everyone in your part of the world knows the Chinese alphabet intimately, is it?


    I don't know any Chinese, but I know it's not an alphabet.
  • Ozz 2009-06-16 11:35
    Hrrruuuuaaaaarrrrrrwwwwlll:

    I totally agree... Having different prefixes for binary units is not a bad idea, but those Mebi etc just sound retarded. I will NEVER use them.
    I think you just did...
  • Not logged in today 2009-06-16 11:38
    OldCoder:
    aka:
    Neil:
    @aka

    I'd imagining, that the square was from a font that didn't support that character. It was probably printed/onscreen and then copied by hand. I doubt that the person copying it gave it much thought really.......


    Well, duh, obviously it was a box on their screen. The copying of the box is the part that was either being awkward or trying to be helpful. (as opposed to not recognising the missing character).

    aaaaand if you were a dispatch clerk who had a box to send with a Chinese address on the screen, you'd attempt to copy it as accurately as you could, wouldn't you? I mean, it's not as if everyone in your part of the world knows the Chinese alphabet intimately, is it?

    aka:
    I originally thought the poor person copying the address down was essentially copying a drawing, much as I would copy down chinese characters, but when you look at it carefully, it was clearly written by someone who had a least a basic idea of english type handwriting. So the box could well have been them being deliberately awkward, or simply having no way of recovering the original character and deciding a rectangle was less confusing than missing it out

    So, what was your point again, Old Coder?
  • brazzy 2009-06-16 11:46
    Anonymous:
    Well, not quite. Nobody uses them because they have no place in computer science.

    If anything, it's Mega- and Giga- that have no place in computer science.

    Bytes are not base 10, end of story.

    Then why incorrectly use base 10 prefixes for them?

    The ONLY reason this stupid construct exists is so hard drive manufacturers can screw us over.

    Actually, the construct is an attempt to PREVENT anyone from getting "screwed over", but it's not working because people insist on hanging on to the misuse of a base 10 prefix as an approximation for a base 2 number. And they insist on that because the base 2 prefixes sound unfamiliar and just plain weird.
  • Your Name 2009-06-16 11:47
    Before reaching for the that vowel key that has that the gaudy decoration dots on it, think about how much ink that wastes. A E I O and U are perfectly understandable. if the o sounds more like an a, then just use the a. please citizens of the planet, think about conservation in this day and age.

    Also, ASCII characters codes after 126 are not officially recognized, and we need that extra bit for parity, or for the reverse character set. There simply is not any room for your ostentatious dotting.

    Besides, it is an immense burden trying to filter all the spam that uses the extra worthless european vowels while trying to convince me to enhance my manhood in its own gaudy, decorative way. Your "enhanced" character set is responsible for all the spam in my overflowing inbox.
  • brazzy 2009-06-16 11:52
    Anonymous:
    No it's not funny and no its not new but you know how these pathetic memes work.

    Like slapstick comedy and running gags, they work through repetition and variation, i.e. a mix of old and new. To most people, that's funny.

    You may now sneer and congratulate yourself for being much too cultured and intelligent to enjoy that sort of low-brow entertainment.
  • Code Dependent 2009-06-16 11:54
    null reference:
    Are you kidding? Americans know about Austria because of the hash bars!
    I know there's a collection of keys in a hashtable...
  • Anonymous 2009-06-16 12:04
    brazzy:
    You may now sneer and congratulate yourself for being much too cultured and intelligent to enjoy that sort of low-brow entertainment.
    I bet you're a riot at parties.
  • IT Girl 2009-06-16 12:30
    Stu Dent:
    JoLoCo:
    MadJo@Work:

    Hahaha, I hope you were joking. :)
    Otherwise your teacher might need a class or two more.
    Austria != Australia.

    Green:
    Note that it is Austria and not Australia.

    You people give geeks a bad name.

    Wow! I got a twofer! Not that I'm surprised. Nobody pays attention to the words anymore. The way things are going I

    Oh, look! Shiny!


    I was imagining Arnie with an Aussie accent, thank you for that!
  • Oysterman 2009-06-16 12:31
    Austria vs. Australia, sure why not. I sure can imagine it being hard to tell them apart. Definitely harder then telling Sweden and Switzerland apart, which I to my dismay see being mixed up from time to time (I am a Swede).

    Though I won't blame anyone for this kind of mistakes; I've had some trouble with similarly-named nations myself. Benin vs. Belize, and Togo vs. Tonga. But at least I learn from my mistakes, and I know the difference now: Belize is in Central America, Benin is a fruit, Togo is a piece of clothing and Tonga is a drum.
  • zbe 2009-06-16 12:34
    kastein:
    Corrupted zip files are awesome! Kudos to WinZip for correctly handling the Petabyte prefix though... whoever wrote that part of the code was all about future-proofing. anyone want to bet on whether it'll handle Exabytes, Zettabytes, Yottabytes, Xonabytes, Wekabytes, and Vundabytes as well?

    ... I never even knew the last 3 of those existed as prefixes... http://guymal.com/techCorner/powers.shtml. Who gets naming rights on the one after Vundabytes? Following the backwards-alphabet trend, I think it should be named Uberbytes.

    lolwtf:
    The message clearly says they're trying to copy the desktop to the desktop. Obviously they have a huge hard drive, and this created an infinite recursion loop filling it up.
    zbe:
    i'm just glad that i don't have to write a chinese address... that would look like 上海 to me

    [those boxes with numbers that firefox uses for unicode characters]
    Nice example. I see two Chinese characters.
    Same here... firefox 3. zbe, maybe your fonts are FUBAR?


    according to the interwebs nothing is wrong firefox, i just don't have any fonts that can display strange asian languages... they can be installed in control panel > regional and language Options >
    install files for east asian languages
  • jay 2009-06-16 12:46
  • jay 2009-06-16 12:50
    Oysterman:
    Austria vs. Australia, sure why not. I sure can imagine it being hard to tell them apart. Definitely harder then telling Sweden and Switzerland apart, which I to my dismay see being mixed up from time to time (I am a Swede).


    Hey, as long as they don't start confusing your country with France, I wouldn't be too offended.

    Personally, I'm still trying to figure out how Russia invaded Georgia without going through South Carolina.
  • halcyon1234 2009-06-16 12:52
    zbe:
    i'm just glad that i don't have to write a chinese address... that would look like 上海 to me

    [those boxes with numbers that firefox uses for unicode characters]


    wait, how do you know my pw?
  • jay 2009-06-16 12:57
    Anonymous:
    Tim:
    Kibi, mebi etc. were a terrible idea. They're phonetically ugly and sound like very unprofessional. It would be embarrassing to say them.

    *That's* why nobody uses them.
    Well, not quite. Nobody uses them because they have no place in computer science. Bytes are not base 10, end of story. The ONLY reason this stupid construct exists is so hard drive manufacturers can screw us over. The worst thing about this is that as the size of the drives increase, so too does the size of the "loss" due to the hard drive manufacturers using incorrect values for the size of a byte. And of course, they always incorrectly label their drives in KB, MB and GB instead of the standard KiB, MiB and GiB.


    I've been in the computer business for almost 30 years and I never heard of KiB and MiB until today.

    So yes, using a standard of measure that 1/100 of 1% of your customers have even heard of would be so much more clear and honest than using a measurement that is ambiguous by 2.4%.

  • Neil 2009-06-16 13:02
    Anonymous:
    Observer:
    Maybe someone can explain why this is funny? Is mixing up Austria and Australia some new meme that I'm not aware of? Is it as simple as being sarcastic and then laughing at people when they thought you were serious? Am I missing something fundamental here?
    It's a retarded meme that came into fashion after the arrest of Josef Fritzl (which was probably the first time that most Americans even became aware of a weird little country called "Austria"). No it's not funny and no its not new but you know how these pathetic memes work. Business as usual.

    It was also a stupid gag in the movie Young Einstein back in 1988.
  • me 2009-06-16 13:06
    Please read the following comment:
  • y0da 2009-06-16 13:07
    halcyon1234:
    zbe:
    i'm just glad that i don't have to write a chinese address... that would look like 上海 to me

    [those boxes with numbers that firefox uses for unicode characters]


    wait, how do you know my pw?


    hunter2. Simple.
  • Code Dependent 2009-06-16 13:13
    Oysterman:
    Benin vs. Belize, and Togo vs. Tonga. But at least I learn from my mistakes, and I know the difference now: Belize is in Central America, Benin is a fruit, Togo is a piece of clothing and Tonga is a drum.
    I confused a sarong with a sari once. It was an embarrassing faux pas. I had to apologize.

    Guess what I said by way of apology.
  • My name 2009-06-16 14:02
    The real WTF is that K.Bear apparently took a photo of an error screen instead of a screenshot...
  • Michael G 2009-06-16 14:04
    I know how to spell Australalalalia, I just don't know when to stop.
  • Pestulant 2009-06-16 14:07
    jay:
    Anonymous:
    Tim:
    Kibi, mebi etc. were a terrible idea. They're phonetically ugly and sound like very unprofessional. It would be embarrassing to say them.

    *That's* why nobody uses them.
    Well, not quite. Nobody uses them because they have no place in computer science. Bytes are not base 10, end of story. The ONLY reason this stupid construct exists is so hard drive manufacturers can screw us over. The worst thing about this is that as the size of the drives increase, so too does the size of the "loss" due to the hard drive manufacturers using incorrect values for the size of a byte. And of course, they always incorrectly label their drives in KB, MB and GB instead of the standard KiB, MiB and GiB.


    I've been in the computer business for almost 30 years and I never heard of KiB and MiB until today.

    So yes, using a standard of measure that 1/100 of 1% of your customers have even heard of would be so much more clear and honest than using a measurement that is ambiguous by 2.4%.

    Will Smith will not be happy with you.
  • EvanED 2009-06-16 14:23
    jay:
    ...using a measurement that is ambiguous by 2.4%.


    You might want to recheck your math.

    Today's HDDs are measured in GB, not KB. At that point, you're looking at a 7.4-7.8% difference (depending on which direction you're measuring). Tomorrow's HDDs will be measured in TB, where the difference is 9-10%.

    (FWIW, I strongly agree with brazzy's post.)
  • Noah 2009-06-16 14:41
    jay:

    I've been in the computer business for almost 30 years and I never heard of KiB and MiB until today.

    Let me guess, salesman at Circuit City???
    Please crawl out from under that log and burn it.
  • Noah 2009-06-16 14:46
    brazzy:

    No, that was the sound of an incestual rapist riding a kangaroo to town to get some Apfelstrudel after a hard day of Opal mining.

    Not much left to mine from Opel these days...
  • too_many_usernames 2009-06-16 14:52
    Anonymous:
    Tim:
    Kibi, mebi etc. were a terrible idea. They're phonetically ugly and sound like very unprofessional. It would be embarrassing to say them.

    *That's* why nobody uses them.
    Well, not quite. Nobody uses them because they have no place in computer science. Bytes are not base 10, end of story. The ONLY reason this stupid construct exists is so hard drive manufacturers can screw us over. The worst thing about this is that as the size of the drives increase, so too does the size of the "loss" due to the hard drive manufacturers using incorrect values for the size of a byte. And of course, they always incorrectly label their drives in KB, MB and GB instead of the standard KiB, MiB and GiB.

    Kids in Black.
    Men in Black.
    ...
    Gerbils in Black?
  • Marvin the Martian 2009-06-16 15:08
    methinks:

    No. the manufacturers don't use them because they'd have to build bigger drives (by some multiple of 1.024) while still having to stick to the same size numbers... *very* bad for marketing ;o)

    multiple? No, power. That's the costly thing; a reasonably small power is gargantuan, a reasonably small multiple is reasonably small.

    OldCoder:

    aaaaand if you were a dispatch clerk who had a box to send with a Chinese address on the screen, you'd attempt to copy it as accurately as you could, wouldn't you?

    I read that as "dispatch jerk", which would suit your argument reversely.
  • mpbk 2009-06-16 15:08
    jay:
    Personally, I'm still trying to figure out how Russia invaded Georgia without going through South Carolina.


    Savannah.
  • Code Dependent 2009-06-16 15:29
    too_many_usernames:
    Gerbils in Black?
    If I wasn't at work, I'd be posting a link to JoeCartoon right now.
  • Sami 2009-06-16 16:45
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  • James 2009-06-16 18:23
    lolwtf:
    The message clearly says they're trying to copy the desktop to the desktop. Obviously they have a huge hard drive, and this created an infinite recursion loop filling it up.
    zbe:
    i'm just glad that i don't have to write a chinese address... that would look like 上海 to me

    [those boxes with numbers that firefox uses for unicode characters]
    Nice example. I see two Chinese characters.


    I only see a couple of shady characters.
  • Mr.'; Drop Database -- 2009-06-16 18:35
    Luser Support:
    As you may notice, the ~6PB is to be downloaded to someone's desktop. So, obviously, some granny upgraded to MSIE 8, went to google, and right-clicked save to desktop. She's making a copy of the entire Internet!
  • ÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃ 2009-06-16 18:55
    random.next:
    Having an 'ü' in my name, I know the pains of it. Or used to, anyway. Pretty much everything handles it correctly by now.
    Except for Apple's website. Either it rejects my name right away, or transforms the ü into ü.
    I don't like Apple.


    A quarter of an Ãpple...yum, yum


    (and I think validus is a wonderful CAPTCHA)
  • ÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃ 2009-06-16 19:05
    Anonymous:
    Observer:
    Maybe someone can explain why this is funny? Is mixing up Austria and Australia some new meme that I'm not aware of? Is it as simple as being sarcastic and then laughing at people when they thought you were serious? Am I missing something fundamental here?
    It's a retarded meme that came into fashion after the arrest of Josef Fritzl (which was probably the first time that most Americans even became aware of a weird little country called "Austria"). No it's not funny and no its not new but you know how these pathetic memes work. Business as usual.


    It comes up often, such as:
    http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/f21/dumb-tourist-questions-5005/
    (Yes, I know, it's not true - search for Vienna, though).

    There is also a perception (certainly in Australia) that Yanks struggle to distinguish between Australia and Austria. Whether this is actually true or not, I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me (not just from yanks but from the world in general).
    I know when I was at school and people found out I was Latvian they used to ask me whether I could actually speak Latin, so people struggling between Austria and Australia doesn't surprise me.
  • Mate 2009-06-16 19:09
    brazzy:
    Anonymous:
    No it's not funny and no its not new but you know how these pathetic memes work.

    Like slapstick comedy and running gags, they work through repetition and variation, i.e. a mix of old and new. To most people, that's funny.

    You may now sneer and congratulate yourself for being much too cultured and intelligent to enjoy that sort of low-brow entertainment.

    To SOME people that's funny.
    Maybe even MANY, but I don't think MOST....
  • KP 2009-06-16 19:41
    ÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃÃ:
    I know when I was at school and people found out I was Latvian they used to ask me whether I could actually speak Latin, so people struggling between Austria and Australia doesn't surprise me.

    Hey, when in Rome, do as the Romanians do...

  • Lego 2009-06-16 19:43
    too_many_usernames:
    Anonymous:
    Tim:
    Kibi, mebi etc. were a terrible idea. They're phonetically ugly and sound like very unprofessional. It would be embarrassing to say them.

    *That's* why nobody uses them.
    Well, not quite. Nobody uses them because they have no place in computer science. Bytes are not base 10, end of story. The ONLY reason this stupid construct exists is so hard drive manufacturers can screw us over. The worst thing about this is that as the size of the drives increase, so too does the size of the "loss" due to the hard drive manufacturers using incorrect values for the size of a byte. And of course, they always incorrectly label their drives in KB, MB and GB instead of the standard KiB, MiB and GiB.

    Kids in Black.
    Men in Black.
    ...
    Gerbils in Black?


    Nah, Girls in Black!
  • Philipp 2009-06-16 20:07
    They also spelled the Chinese word for Austria wrong ("Au ta li" instead of "Au di li").

    While we're at it, greetings from Vienna!
  • Gary Olson 2009-06-16 20:42
    Jer Null:
    Yeah, it starts with a measly 6PB, but by the time the journaling file system gets done with it, and hands it off to the search indexer thingie, we're looking at 14PB minimum. Now let's hope you don't actually try to open it, because that makes two temporary copies even if you don't change anything.


    You forgot 6PB for the cluster quorum.
  • Novus 2009-06-17 02:18
    Neil:
    I'd imagining, that the square was from a font that didn't support that character.

    Another possibility is that the text was being interpreted using the wrong encoding. You often get squares or suchlike, for example, when a UTF-8 decoder runs into an invalid sequence of bytes, such as "ön" in Latin-1. Some decoders replace only the unexpected non-ASCII byte with a square, some eat one or more of the following characters at the same time.

    The reverse problem (interpreting UTF-8 as Latin-1 or similar) leads to "ö" being read as "ö". This easily happens when processing raw text files, CSV or suchlike from one platform on another. For example, I once got a name badge at a conference in New Zealand afflicted with this, except the staff had helpfully removed the paragraph sign and lower-cased the "Ã". I was told the data (from a web form, probably in UTF-8) got messed up when it was imported into Excel (which, in the English-speaking world, assumes CSV is in Windows-1252 unless told otherwise, AFAIK).
  • Subroutine 2009-06-17 03:06
    The real problem with ä, ö, ü, å etc. is that English uses vowels really randomly, atleast from a Finnish perspective.
    In Finnish, each vowel corresponds to exactly one sound.

    In English 'a' is different in 'cat' and 'bar'. (The 'a' in cat should be 'ä' instead.)
    In English 'e' is different in 'green' and 'men'. (The 'e' in 'green' should be 'i' instead.)
    In English 'o' is different in 'dog' and 'how' and 'moose'. (The 'o' in how should be 'a' instead, 'o' in 'moose' should be 'u'.)
    In English 'u' is different in 'true' and 'bug' and 'fur'. (The 'u' in 'bug' should be 'a' instead, 'u' in 'fur' should be 'ö'.)
    In English 'y' is a consonant (should be a vowel, should be used like the german 'ü', can't think of a English example offhand) and is used differently in 'my' and 'you'. ('my' should be written 'mai'.)
    Funny language :)
  • Tempura 2009-06-17 03:27
    Isn't the instruction of the login-dialog obviously? It's all about Zen. To do something, just do nothing!
  • TH-Junkie 2009-06-17 03:41
    TRWTF? That I recognised the Theme Hospital screenshot without reading anything and initially only with have the top half-inch visible on screen

    Waster youth....
  • Kiss me I'm Polish 2009-06-17 03:47
    I accidentally the whole internet.
  • damnum 2009-06-17 07:42
    Code Dependent:
    kastein:
    anyone want to bet on whether it'll handle Exabytes, Zettabytes, Yottabytes, Xonabytes, Wekabytes, and Vundabytes as well?
    Shouldn't Trilobytes fit in there somewhere?

    kastein:
    Who gets naming rights on the one after Vundabytes? Following the backwards-alphabet trend, I think it should be named Uberbytes.
    I vote for Godzillabytes.

    All in good time, boys and girls.
  • Anonymous 2009-06-17 07:51
    It is _not_ a "retarded meme that came into fashion after the arrest of Josef Fritzl". The joke about the distinction or lack thereof between Australia and Austria is quite a lot older, and it is not a meme; it is reality. I've so far received 3 packages ordered in the USA(2) and Canada(1) which had been routed via Australia.

    Also, for chinese people, Austria could as well be a city. There are at least four cities with more inhabitants than the entire country and ~20 quickly closing the gap.
  • JoJo 2009-06-17 08:01

    internal void AbandonAllHope()

    shouldn't that be...

    eternal void AbandonAllHope()
  • sz_lr 2009-06-17 08:49
  • oppeto 2009-06-17 09:59
    Code Dependent:
    kastein:
    anyone want to bet on whether it'll handle Exabytes, Zettabytes, Yottabytes, Xonabytes, Wekabytes, and Vundabytes as well?
    Shouldn't Trilobytes fit in there somewhere?

    Yes, but Monolobytes and Bilobytes need to come first.
    And some idiot American probably starts using Bilo and Trilo wrong.
  • DWalker59 2009-06-17 10:26
    brazzy:
    Jay Jay:
    Wow. I could hear the whoosh of that going over your head from here...

    No, that was the sound of an incestual rapist riding a kangaroo to town to get some Apfelstrudel after a hard day of Opal mining.


    Those cars are MINED? :-)
  • DWalker59 2009-06-17 10:28
    Anonymous:
    The joke about the distinction or lack thereof between Australia and Austria is quite a lot older, and it is not a meme; it is reality. I've so far received 3 packages ordered in the USA(2) and Canada(1) which had been routed via Australia.


    And New Mexico is a state in the United States of America.

    I tried to mail a package from North Carolina to New Mexico many years ago, and the U.S. Postal Service counter-person pulled out a foreign rate book. I informed him that this was not an international shipment.
  • Not logged in today 2009-06-17 10:29
    oppeto:
    Code Dependent:
    kastein:
    anyone want to bet on whether it'll handle Exabytes, Zettabytes, Yottabytes, Xonabytes, Wekabytes, and Vundabytes as well?
    Shouldn't Trilobytes fit in there somewhere?

    Yes, but Monolobytes and Bilobytes need to come first.
    And some idiot American probably starts using Bilo and Trilo wrong.

    Whooosh
  • db 2009-06-19 02:44
    Anonymous:
    It is _not_ a "retarded meme that came into fashion after the arrest of Josef Fritzl". The joke about the distinction or lack thereof between Australia and Austria is quite a lot older, and it is not a meme; it is reality. I've so far received 3 packages ordered in the USA(2) and Canada(1) which had been routed via Australia.

    Also, for chinese people, Austria could as well be a city. There are at least four cities with more inhabitants than the entire country and ~20 quickly closing the gap.


    I'm in Australia, and some wag in my town has been ripping letters off postboxes so they spell "Austr..ia Post". Probably the same guy that ripped the S from the "crap metal" bin.
  • Nomen Nescio 2009-06-19 04:29
    Subroutine:
    The real problem with ä, ö, ü, å etc. is that English uses vowels really randomly, atleast from a Finnish perspective.
    In Finnish, each vowel corresponds to exactly one sound.

    In English 'a' is different in 'cat' and 'bar'. (The 'a' in cat should be 'ä' instead.)
    In English 'e' is different in 'green' and 'men'. (The 'e' in 'green' should be 'i' instead.)
    In English 'o' is different in 'dog' and 'how' and 'moose'. (The 'o' in how should be 'a' instead, 'o' in 'moose' should be 'u'.)
    In English 'u' is different in 'true' and 'bug' and 'fur'. (The 'u' in 'bug' should be 'a' instead, 'u' in 'fur' should be 'ö'.)
    In English 'y' is a consonant (should be a vowel, should be used like the german 'ü', can't think of a English example offhand) and is used differently in 'my' and 'you'. ('my' should be written 'mai'.)
    Funny language :)


    That's OK, it will all be fixed soon: http://www.adecsys.com/zedrem.htm

    In the first year 's' will be used instead of the soft 'c'. Sertainly, sivil servants will resieve this news with joy. Also, the hard 'c' will be replaced with 'k'. This will this klear up konfusion.

  • Ben 2009-06-23 20:08
    i'm just glad that i don't have to write a chinese address... that would look like 上海 to me

    [those boxes with numbers that firefox uses for unicode characters]


    I think that writing the number boxes would be easier than writing the chinese anyway. But if you write "Shanghai" or the whole address in English it'll generally get there. (Shanghai is what you wrote there).
  • Hannes 2009-06-25 04:47
    Greetings to Vienna and the poor fellow that now published his phone number here ;)
  • Two Across 2010-03-05 17:50
    The box (bo) is a Chinese character.
  • nocturnal YL 2010-05-15 11:44
    To say 6 PB is the size of the internet is a bit of understatement...

    If anything, it's saddening to hear that my newly-bought 2TB disk is nowhere close to being sufficient.
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    The funny thing for number one is .. i live at Schönbrunnerstraße 100... Did not know a fellow TDWTF reader lives so close..