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The weight one isn't a WTF.

From Wikipedia: Gross weight is a term that generally is found in commerce or trade applications, and refers to the total weight of a product and its packaging. Conversely, net weight refers to the weight of the product alone, discounting the weight of its container or packaging; and tare weight is the weight of the packaging alone.

Gross = 19kg
Net = 18.4 kg, i.e. the product weighs less than the sum of the product + packaging, which is normal for Earth.

JakeyC:

The weight one isn't a WTF.

From Wikipedia: Gross weight is a term that generally is found in commerce or trade applications, and refers to the total weight of a product and its packaging. Conversely, net weight refers to the weight of the product alone, discounting the weight of its container or packaging; and tare weight is the weight of the packaging alone.

Gross = 19kg
Net = 18.4 kg, i.e. the product weighs less than the sum of the product + packaging, which is normal for Earth.

Okay, I'm TRWTF. Didn't notice the 20kf in the description.

JakeyC:

The weight one isn't a WTF.

Yes it is. If you order 20 kg dumbbells, you usually expect them to weigh 20 kg, not 18.4 kg.

Because it says "dumbbell set", I expect a bar is included.

Except that the product is 20kg.

Or even the 20kg. I'm now retiring from the internet.

Whoosh. CLUNK. GLUG.

Hear that? That is the sound of a 20KG dumbbell (that only weighs 18.4KG) being thrown into the air, it falling on your head, and your blood gushing out.

JakeyC:

The weight one isn't a WTF.

From Wikipedia: Gross weight is a term that generally is found in commerce or trade applications, and refers to the total weight of a product and its packaging. Conversely, net weight refers to the weight of the product alone, discounting the weight of its container or packaging; and tare weight is the weight of the packaging alone.

Gross = 19kg
Net = 18.4 kg, i.e. the product weighs less than the sum of the product + packaging, which is normal for Earth.

All well and good apart from fact that the guy had ordered a 20 kilos worth of weights ...

That driver's ed quiz is deceptive. I got pulled over for doing February MPH in a 15-Oct zone. I couldn't tell if that meant I was speeding, driving too slow for traffic, or just the lucky recipient of the cop's bad day.

JakeyC:

The weight one isn't a WTF.

From Wikipedia: Gross weight is a term that generally is found in commerce or trade applications, and refers to the total weight of a product and its packaging. Conversely, net weight refers to the weight of the product alone, discounting the weight of its container or packaging; and tare weight is the weight of the packaging alone.

Gross = 19kg
Net = 18.4 kg, i.e. the product weighs less than the sum of the product + packaging, which is normal for Earth.

Um... did you happen to notice that the advertised product is supposed to weigh 20 kg?!?

What is it with people that when something takes a long time, they decide to reboot the computer! If something takes a long time and I see the process isn't doing anything, I shutdown the program, not the whole computer :S

Just $1 for Fried Pickles? That's a deal.

Anyone who doesn't immediately realize the cause of the "15-Oct" WTF hasn't had to suffer under Excel's insane eagerness to regard ANYTHING as a date.

Straight away you can eliminate "A" and "Check the button next to your choice and then press ..." . Why wouldn't you expect such quality from LowestPriceTrafficSchool.com?

Actually, it's not advertised as 20kg. If you put that catalogue number into the Argos website, it states it's an 18kg set...

dpm:

Anyone who doesn't immediately realize the cause of the "15-Oct" WTF hasn't had to suffer under Excel's insane eagerness to regard ANYTHING as a date.

Yes, because that is clearly written in Excel.

Hehehe... I see now this world isn't ready yet for mobile computing. I must be, like, the very first person to see the 20kg thing... yet my answer was the last in the batch... and all because I typed it into a phone...

Bill's Kid:

dpm:

Anyone who doesn't immediately realize the cause of the "15-Oct" WTF hasn't had to suffer under Excel's insane eagerness to regard ANYTHING as a date.

Yes, because that is clearly written in Excel.

You've never heard of a web app being populated from an external source? Welcome to the party.

The biggest WTF is the restaurant survey one. "Ctrl-click was disabled"? Yeah, no shit. It's a drop-down box. You can't ctrl-click those.

Oh, and the ranges in the box were weird too.

TheThing:

What is it with people that when something takes a long time, they decide to reboot the computer! If something takes a long time and I see the process isn't doing anything, I shutdown the program, not the whole computer :S

It's propogated from IT departments. Turns out when you have a problem, and the IT guy tells you to try turning it off and back on, he really just wants to finish his coffee/smoke before coming to fix it.

pkmnfrk:

The biggest WTF is the restaurant survey one. "Ctrl-click was disabled"? Yeah, no shit. It's a drop-down box. You can't ctrl-click those.

Oh, and the ranges in the box were weird too.

Wow, that one really escaped you, dinnit?

pkmnfrk:

The biggest WTF is the restaurant survey one. "Ctrl-click was disabled"? Yeah, no shit. It's a drop-down box. You can't ctrl-click those.

Actually you can, it is disabled by default though, IIRC.

dpm:

Anyone who doesn't immediately realize the cause of the "15-Oct" WTF hasn't had to suffer under Excel's insane eagerness to regard ANYTHING as a date.

Except for sql datetime values, in which it discards the date and just shows the time.

Unhandled state expection?

My code handles ALL expections!
(save those of the Spanish Inquisition, because... well, you know)

TheThing:

What is it with people that when something takes a long time, they decide to reboot the computer! If something takes a long time and I see the process isn't doing anything, I shutdown the program, not the whole computer :S

Umm, it was ESXi, and embedded form of ESX server with no direct console access, only a really shitty GUI that gives no no low level control or information. If it's not responding, there is literally nothing you can do except reboot, unless you're running the unsupported console, in which case you can first SSH in, complain that the unsupported console doesn't actually let you do shit, and then reboot.

TheThing:

What is it with people that when something takes a long time, they decide to reboot the computer! If something takes a long time and I see the process isn't doing anything, I shutdown the program, not the whole computer :S

Haha... Yea but, in tech support, 99% of my calls PEBCK. So I've started answering the phone: "Did you reboot?" While it may not solve any problems

Caller: "My mouse isn't working."
Me: "Did you reboot?" (the guy was left handed and using the mouse from the work station to his left... During the reboot he asked me why there was a mouse on either side...)
Caller: "My monitor won't come on."
Me: "Did you reboot?"
Caller: "My key-thingy (she actually said key thingy) stopped working."
Me: "Did you reboot."
Caller: "My computer won't reboot."
Me: "Did you reboot?"

Seriously who wouldn't want my job... And these are just the calls from this morning.

Pyrexkidd:

TheThing:

What is it with people that when something takes a long time, they decide to reboot the computer! If something takes a long time and I see the process isn't doing anything, I shutdown the program, not the whole computer :S

Haha... Yea but, in tech support, 99% of my calls PEBCK. So I've started answering the phone: "Did you reboot?" While it may not solve any problems

Caller: "My mouse isn't working."
Me: "Did you reboot?" (the guy was left handed and using the mouse from the work station to his left... During the reboot he asked me why there was a mouse on either side...)
Caller: "My monitor won't come on."
Me: "Did you reboot?"
Caller: "My key-thingy (she actually said key thingy) stopped working."
Me: "Did you reboot."
Caller: "My computer won't reboot."
Me: "Did you reboot?"

Seriously who wouldn't want my job... And these are just the calls from this morning.

You need to watch The IT Crowd.

"Looks like my weights lost 1kg when they were boxed-up," notes Dave Carson..."

I call shenanigans. Nobody who reads TDWTF also pumps iron.

Proud Papa:

That driver's ed quiz is deceptive. I got pulled over for doing February MPH in a 15-Oct zone. I couldn't tell if that meant I was speeding, driving too slow for traffic, or just the lucky recipient of the cop's bad day.

If you'd just waited 4 months, you may have avoided the whole situation.

JakeyC:

Actually, it's not advertised as 20kg. If you put that catalogue number into the Argos website, it states it's an 18kg set...

Yeah, well they have to suffer the consequences of the UK's truth-in-advertising laws. But at least the weights were 20kg when they left the Chinese factory…

TheThing:

What is it with people that when something takes a long time, they decide to reboot the computer! If something takes a long time and I see the process isn't doing anything, I shutdown the program, not the whole computer :S

The people where I work don't even know how to log off without rebooting. One time I was doing a monitoring session where several users had to do their part of a workflow and we only had one computer. I came in to check up on them and they were complaining that it takes too long to go through the process. I watched for a few minutes and asked "why are you rebooting for the next user instead of just logging off". Someone responded, "That's how you log off". The funniest part is that in order to shut down, you have to select an option from a drop-down. One choice is "Restart" and another is "Log off". Until I told them, no-one had ever figured out that the option called "Log off" logs them off.

Bill's Kid:

dpm:

Anyone who doesn't immediately realize the cause of the "15-Oct" WTF hasn't had to suffer under Excel's insane eagerness to regard ANYTHING as a date.

Yes, because that is clearly written in Excel.

Or generated from an Excel file by some POS survey software.

I don't get the first one? What kind of message did you expect to see when an unhandled state expection occurs?

boog:

Proud Papa:

That driver's ed quiz is deceptive. I got pulled over for doing February MPH in a 15-Oct zone. I couldn't tell if that meant I was speeding, driving too slow for traffic, or just the lucky recipient of the cop's bad day.

If you'd just waited 4 months, you may have avoided the whole situation.

Just go to your court date on the 45mphth and tell the judge your case. He'll probably let you off with just a warning

Low-beam headlights are only effective for speeds up to ___ mph.

What's the answer? Is it foggy? Is it nightime? What does "effective" even mean? If you ask me, all the answers are absurd.

TRWTF is 'V', amirite?

dpm:

Anyone who doesn't immediately realize the cause of the "15-Oct" WTF hasn't had to suffer under Excel's insane eagerness to regard ANYTHING as a date.

My favourite experience with this was when I entered Aug 31 and Excel dutifully changed it to date format... August 1931.

Misinterpreting the day as year I can kind of forgive, inconvenient as it may be, but apparently Microsoft Office fixed the y2k issue by shifting it 30 years. Is 2030 really so far in the future? (That's Office 2007 if you're wondering and want to try it yourself, I haven't checked with other versions.)

If a machine told me to "insert boot", I'd kick it.

So I figured the 15-Oct thing was probably a culprit of something (like Excel) interpreting it as a date, but Oct is 10, so was it originally "15-10"? That seems really weird, especially since all the other options are lowernumber-highernumber.

Also, I suspect the survey dropdown is implemented that was so that the developers can be lazy and generate reports by amount range without having to do all those useless, complicated database queries.

TRWTF is that driver training question! I'm pretty sure any* headlight is effective until the car exceeds the speed of light. ;)

*must be turned on, not broken

for speeds up to the "speed of light" is obviously the right answer. Low-beams just can't keep up if you are going faster.
High-beams with the new sodium bulbs go 2x the speed of light, so then you'd be okay!

Yeah, I'm not sure what they are suggesting. It seems to infer that if you are exceeding ___ mph then they want you to throw on the high-beams to blind everyone else. I'd ask for my money back on that course.

RayMarron:

TRWTF is that driver training question! I'm pretty sure any* headlight is effective until the car exceeds the speed of light. ;)

*must be turned on, not broken

When you walk in the woods at night, you shine a flashlight a few feet in front of you at the ground, illuminating about 10 feet in front of you. Would you like to go 100 mph with that lighting? That would give you approximately 0.07 seconds to see a deer, react, and come to a complete stop. Accelerating from 100 mph to 0 in 0.07 seconds puts a force on you of about 65g, instantly killing you.

In short, it's the angle of the beams, not the speed that's the problem. Obviously.

That said their guidelines are ridiculous.

Max:

dpm:

Anyone who doesn't immediately realize the cause of the "15-Oct" WTF hasn't had to suffer under Excel's insane eagerness to regard ANYTHING as a date.

My favourite experience with this was when I entered Aug 31 and Excel dutifully changed it to date format... August 1931.

Misinterpreting the day as year I can kind of forgive, inconvenient as it may be, but apparently Microsoft Office fixed the y2k issue by shifting it 30 years. Is 2030 really so far in the future? (That's Office 2007 if you're wondering and want to try it yourself, I haven't checked with other versions.)

It's configurable in the Windows Regional options (not Excel). TRWTF is expecting anyone to "fix" the ambiguity of two-digit years.

Proud Papa:

That driver's ed quiz is deceptive. I got pulled over for doing February MPH in a 15-Oct zone. I couldn't tell if that meant I was speeding, driving too slow for traffic, or just the lucky recipient of the cop's bad day.

What you did wrong was you didn't correct for Daylight Savings Time.

vt_mruhlin:

I don't get the first one? What kind of message did you expect to see when an unhandled state expection occurs?

My take on the first one is that while the error message says "UI doesn't know how to display FAILURE", somehow the UI behind the error box seems to have found several perfectly appropriate ways to display that there was a failure.

toth:

So I figured the 15-Oct thing was probably a culprit of something (like Excel) interpreting it as a date, but Oct is 10, so was it originally "15-10"? That seems really weird, especially since all the other options are lowernumber-highernumber.

I just put "10-15" into an Excel spreadsheet. What'd it change it to? "15-Oct".

...or Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and fried pickles?

Pyrexkidd:

Haha... Yea but, in tech support, 99% of my calls PEBCK. So I've started answering the phone: "Did you reboot?" While it may not solve any problems

Caller: "My mouse isn't working."
Me: "Did you reboot?" (the guy was left handed and using the mouse from the work station to his left... During the reboot he asked me why there was a mouse on either side...)
Caller: "My monitor won't come on."
Me: "Did you reboot?"
Caller: "My key-thingy (she actually said key thingy) stopped working."
Me: "Did you reboot."
Caller: "My computer won't reboot."
Me: "Did you reboot?"

Seriously who wouldn't want my job... And these are just the calls from this morning.

Jaime:

The people where I work don't even know how to log off without rebooting. One time I was doing a monitoring session where several users had to do their part of a workflow and we only had one computer. I came in to check up on them and they were complaining that it takes too long to go through the process. I watched for a few minutes and asked "why are you rebooting for the next user instead of just logging off". Someone responded, "That's how you log off". The funniest part is that in order to shut down, you have to select an option from a drop-down. One choice is "Restart" and another is "Log off". Until I told them, no-one had ever figured out that the option called "Log off" logs them off.

This kind of talk is exactly why 'normal people' think of us as geeks who talk nonsense all day.