Comment On Dying of Thirst

"If you are really thirsty, then you might be disappointed by this all-digital touch-screen soda vending machine," Scott Selikoff writes, "someone remind what was wrong with the 'old' ones that worked for decades? [expand full text]
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Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:03 • by by (unregistered)
This comment is greater than "0"

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:03 • by Alargule (unregistered)
"This is from a well-known financial planning site," wrote Matt Parkin, "I guess 1350 and 100 are not greater than 0? Maybe I should try negative numbers."


Well, maybe you should use "quotation marks"?

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:04 • by meh (unregistered)
Scott:

someone remind what was wrong with the 'old' ones that worked for decades?


Try paying with a credit card on one of your 'old' ones.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:10 • by e.p. (unregistered)
Calvin:

"Firefox crashed after that."


How unfortunate that you had 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' checked, then.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:10 • by appellatio (unregistered)
There is no way I would buy vinyl with the only description being "orange". What orange?
This one?
This one?
This one?
This one?
This one?
This one?
This one?

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:11 • by Your Name (unregistered)
The blank Firefox one is how Windows handles "out of memory" errors. It's never seen on correctly programmed OSen such as GNU/Linux.

Richard Stallman

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:11 • by GG (unregistered)
I think I have deleted my file G (which I'm kind of fond of) by mistake. Anyone got a link for a download?

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:12 • by frits
322351 in reply to 322346
meh:
Scott:

someone remind what was wrong with the 'old' ones that worked for decades?


Try paying with a credit card on one of your 'old' ones.


No wonder all the kids are fat.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:13 • by Liar Paradox (unregistered)
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Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:13 • by Europa (unregistered)
322355 in reply to 322346
meh:
Scott:

someone remind what was wrong with the 'old' ones that worked for decades?

Try paying with a credit card on one of your 'old' ones.

You buy soda on credit? No wonder you people have screwed the global economy up so badly.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:15 • by schmitter (unregistered)
322356 in reply to 322346
meh:
Scott:

someone remind what was wrong with the 'old' ones that worked for decades?


Try paying with a credit card on one of your 'old' ones.


If you need a credit card for a $1.25 soda, you need a better job my friend.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:15 • by Dan (unregistered)
The Shade 8 one bugs me because it's still only the 7th shade!!!

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:16 • by none (unregistered)
The "Shade 8" seems to be a copy-paste error from a page selling welding shades (as revealed by the fine text). The darkness is given in "shades"

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:16 • by Liar Paradox (unregistered)
322359 in reply to 322354
Liar Paradox:
Error: This comment contains no text.

On second thought, something more like:
Error: the length of this comment must be greater than zero.

would probably be easier to relate to the WTF.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:17 • by Andrew (unregistered)
322360 in reply to 322356
schmitter:

If you need a credit card for a $1.25 soda, you need a better job my friend.


So you carry cash (namely ones) on you at all times?

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:19 • by NullPointerException (unregistered)
322361 in reply to 322356
schmitter:
meh:
Scott:

someone remind what was wrong with the 'old' ones that worked for decades?


Try paying with a credit card on one of your 'old' ones.


If you need a credit card for a $1.25 soda, you need a better job my friend.


I frequently don't have bills smaller than $5 and I almost never have coins. I always have a credit and/or debit card.

I never use credit cards to borrow money--purely for convenience.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:20 • by Markp
Greg:
"Given that I'm 25, I guess I can't continue with this survey?"

No, they just assume that anyone from 25-44 would either rather not say (Prefer not to answer) or would lie about their age anyway (one of the other options).

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:21 • by GG (unregistered)
322363 in reply to 322354
Liar Paradox:
Error: This comment contains no text.


Your comment is invalid or your comment is valid by my comment on your comment is invalid.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:23 • by frits
322364 in reply to 322362
Markp:
Dave:
"I was buying some vinyl from this site," wrote Matt, "but I couldn't help but wonder, what color is shade 8?"


If you don't know that, you're not qualified to be welding anyway.


Feature this please. ^^^

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:23 • by GG (unregistered)
322365 in reply to 322363
correction:

Your comment is invalid or your comment is valid BUT my comment on your comment is invalid.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:31 • by Mad Benjamin(s) (unregistered)
322367 in reply to 322361
NullPointerException:
I frequently don't have bills smaller than $5 and I almost never have coins. I always have a credit and/or debit card.

I never use credit cards to borrow money--purely for convenience.

You do understand what a debit card is, right? The money is debited directly from your account, so you borrow nothing. Therefore if you never use a credit card to "borrow money" you shouldn't even bother having one - a debit card does the same job without the "borrowing money" bit.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:32 • by Bob (unregistered)
322368 in reply to 322361
NullPointerException:


I frequently don't have bills smaller than $5 and I almost never have coins.


Panhandler: "Buddy, can you spare a dime?"

NullPointerException: "Sure thing. Have you got change for a hundred?"

Panhandler: ...

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:33 • by anon (unregistered)
While I'll agree that the broken soda machine is amusing and WTF worthy, the snarky comment about "what was wrong with the old ones" is kind of unnecessary. First off, it implies that the old ones never broke which is obviously untrue, and second it implies that no advantages are gained by the new ones. On the old ones, someone had to manually change small paper labels every time a new product was added, and we've all seen the crappy, handwritten substitutes when the paper label was damaged or unavailable. Also, the old ones often didn't give a clear indication of what drinks were out of stock, and without an onboard computer were incapable of automatically reporting back to a central server what the current inventory was.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:34 • by pnieuwkamp
"Enter the dollar amount" -> maybe you shouldn't include the cents then? Besides, not everyone uses a period as decimal separator...

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:37 • by uh... (unregistered)
322371 in reply to 322364
frits:
Markp:
Dave:
"I was buying some vinyl from this site," wrote Matt, "but I couldn't help but wonder, what color is shade 8?"


If you don't know that, you're not qualified to be welding anyway.


Feature this please. ^^^

Why? It's not clever OR funny.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:38 • by GSchizas
Shade 8 is, of course, Octarin (sort of purple greenish).

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:39 • by NullPointerException (unregistered)
322373 in reply to 322367
Mad Benjamin(s):
NullPointerException:
I frequently don't have bills smaller than $5 and I almost never have coins. I always have a credit and/or debit card.

I never use credit cards to borrow money--purely for convenience.

You do understand what a debit card is, right? The money is debited directly from your account, so you borrow nothing. Therefore if you never use a credit card to "borrow money" you shouldn't even bother having one - a debit card does the same job without the "borrowing money" bit.


But there are different terms for credit and debit cards. For one thing, the rules about recovering fraud make it much easier to recover stolen money from a credit card than a debit card. Plus, if someone steals my cc info I haven't actually lost any money yet, but if they steal my debit card info they're actually removing money from my bank account.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:41 • by foof (unregistered)
The Inkscape uninstaller bug is old but it hasn't been fixed. Just click on "always answer Yes" and it goes away.

The installer isn't any better either. It takes 8 minutes to install. 7 minutes of those it spends "searching" for something but I've no idea what is it looking for or if it ever finds it.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:41 • by Xzibit (unregistered)
Yo dawg, we heard your state code was invalid or your state code was valid but the status code for your state code was invalid, so we put a valid status code in your state code so Microsoft CRM can check the status of your state.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:44 • by Mad Benjamin(s) (unregistered)
322376 in reply to 322373
NullPointerException:
Mad Benjamin(s):
NullPointerException:
I frequently don't have bills smaller than $5 and I almost never have coins. I always have a credit and/or debit card.

I never use credit cards to borrow money--purely for convenience.

You do understand what a debit card is, right? The money is debited directly from your account, so you borrow nothing. Therefore if you never use a credit card to "borrow money" you shouldn't even bother having one - a debit card does the same job without the "borrowing money" bit.

But there are different terms for credit and debit cards. For one thing, the rules about recovering fraud make it much easier to recover stolen money from a credit card than a debit card. Plus, if someone steals my cc info I haven't actually lost any money yet, but if they steal my debit card info they're actually removing money from my bank account.

These are all very good points to be fair. Personally I despise credit, I don't own any credit cards and my only outstanding loan is my mortgage. But you raise some good points about the security aspects of credit vs debit cards.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:45 • by frits
322377 in reply to 322371
uh...:
frits:
Markp:
Dave:
"I was buying some vinyl from this site," wrote Matt, "but I couldn't help but wonder, what color is shade 8?"


If you don't know that, you're not qualified to be welding anyway.


Feature this please. ^^^

Why? It's not clever OR funny.


Because it's informative. Shade #8 is well known to welders and the screenshot shown is for welding screens.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:47 • by Consultant Zero (unregistered)
322379 in reply to 322367
Mad Benjamin(s):
NullPointerException:
I frequently don't have bills smaller than $5 and I almost never have coins. I always have a credit and/or debit card.

I never use credit cards to borrow money--purely for convenience.

You do understand what a debit card is, right? The money is debited directly from your account, so you borrow nothing. Therefore if you never use a credit card to "borrow money" you shouldn't even bother having one - a debit card does the same job without the "borrowing money" bit.


My credit card charges no interest on charges less than 60 days old. Further, a debit card doesn't build credit history. I had sterling credit, no debt, few bills, and high pay - I was unable to get a small mortgage. You know those deals where you prepay in advance for a large discount? Always did those (year gym membership for the cost of three months, for example). Underwriter told me, point blank, they couldn't profile me thus couldn't lend to me.

You have to be a credit risk.

Now that I have a mortgage (went elsewhere and got accepted in a high risk pool...) I can get every loan under the sun, including another, full mortgage. And before anyone latches on to the high risk supposing that I don't understand my credit... every line of credit I have is below published rates. It's just not rational.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:51 • by TheJasper
322381 in reply to 322360
Andrew:
schmitter:

If you need a credit card for a $1.25 soda, you need a better job my friend.


So you carry cash (namely ones) on you at all times?


Is that such a strange thing? (I'll admit, being dutch, I carry coins, for ones and twos, not bills but the principle is the same).

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:52 • by Jan (unregistered)
322383 in reply to 322346
meh:
Scott:

someone remind what was wrong with the 'old' ones that worked for decades?


Try paying with a credit card on one of your 'old' ones.


lol, paying a coke with your credit card...you crazy americans!

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:53 • by Jens (unregistered)
It's called "Thirst station". Mission accomplished.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:54 • by Jens (unregistered)
322385 in reply to 322383
I like Denmark where you can pay virtually everywhere and everything with Dankort, a debit card. But if it needs to be a credit card for the comfort, why not?

Sweden plans to get rid of cash completely.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:54 • by Schmalls (unregistered)
322386 in reply to 322367
Mad Benjamin(s):

You do understand what a debit card is, right? The money is debited directly from your account, so you borrow nothing. Therefore if you never use a credit card to "borrow money" you shouldn't even bother having one - a debit card does the same job without the "borrowing money" bit.


I think you are not accounting for some of the best reasons to have a credit card.

For starters, you have a 30 day (or so) grace period on your purchases with no interest. This means that you can keep your money in your bank account longer where it can be earning interest. Then if you pay it off every month you will never have any interest. This may not account to much interest earnings, but it can also help another way, avoiding overdraft fees on your checking account. When you use your credit card, it acts as a buffer when you know you will have enough to pay it off at the end of the month, but your checking account balance may fluctuate up or down during the month.

Secondly, most good cards will have rewards of some kind. They are basically giving back some of the money they receive from fees they collect from each transaction. Of course they keep the lion's share, but consider this: most places you can use a credit card charge the same price no matter which form of payment you use (there are some gas stations which charge more for credit card purchases). So which would you rather do: give more profit to the merchant where you get nothing back, or give more money to the credit card company where you will get something back? I myself am a fan of the cash back reward types and will generally get 1% back on all purchases and can get 3-5% back on some categories of purchases. As long as you never carry a balance on the credit card, the company will basically pay you to use it.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:54 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
322387 in reply to 322369
anon:
While I'll agree that the broken soda machine is amusing and WTF worthy, the snarky comment about "what was wrong with the old ones" is kind of unnecessary... On the old ones, someone had to manually change small paper labels every time a new product was added...

I'm a software developer but it doesn't change the fact I consider paper to be a far easier alternative to an entire frigging computer. So what if someone has to write "$1.25" by hand? After all, you can hire any idiot to write "$1.25" on a bit of paper but you need to hire experts to maintain a computer system.

anon:
Also, the old ones often didn't give a clear indication of what drinks were out of stock

All the "old ones" I'm familiar with had glass fronts so you could see immediately what was and wasn't in stock, without requiring an entire frigging computer to figure it out for you.

Just because you can put a computer into something doesn't mean you should.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:58 • by Schmalls (unregistered)
322388 in reply to 322375
Xzibit:
Yo dawg, we heard your state code was invalid or your state code was valid but the status code for your state code was invalid, so we put a valid status code in your state code so Microsoft CRM can check the status of your state.


Thank you Xzibit, I believe you have done your meme justice here.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:58 • by justsomedude (unregistered)
322389 in reply to 322356
schmitter:
meh:
Scott:

someone remind what was wrong with the 'old' ones that worked for decades?


Try paying with a credit card on one of your 'old' ones.


If you need a credit card for a $1.25 soda, you need a better job my friend.


$1.25 for a soda? Wowzas. Back in my day we paid $0.50 and resented every bit of it.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 09:59 • by TheJasper
322390 in reply to 322379
Consultant Zero:

My credit card charges no interest on charges less than 60 days old. Further, a debit card doesn't build credit history. I had sterling credit, no debt, few bills, and high pay - I was unable to get a small mortgage. You know those deals where you prepay in advance for a large discount? Always did those (year gym membership for the cost of three months, for example). Underwriter told me, point blank, they couldn't profile me thus couldn't lend to me.

You have to be a credit risk.

Now that I have a mortgage (went elsewhere and got accepted in a high risk pool...) I can get every loan under the sun, including another, full mortgage. And before anyone latches on to the high risk supposing that I don't understand my credit... every line of credit I have is below published rates. It's just not rational.


That's an american approach. In the Netherlands they are interested in your outstanding debt and payment history. You credit rating doesn't start at rock bottom though. If you have a job and no debt you are a good credit risk. No job no credit. Outstanding debt? How high it is will determine how much you can loan. They are much more interested in how much you earn than in some fictive debt hsitory which only shows you are constantly short of money. The profiling isn't necessarily a bad idea but it does lead to these strange situation.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 10:02 • by SR (unregistered)
322391 in reply to 322369
anon:
While I'll agree that the broken soda machine is amusing and WTF worthy, the snarky comment about "what was wrong with the old ones" is kind of unnecessary. First off, it implies that the old ones never broke which is obviously untrue, and second it implies that no advantages are gained by the new ones. On the old ones, someone had to manually change small paper labels every time a new product was added, and we've all seen the crappy, handwritten substitutes when the paper label was damaged or unavailable. Also, the old ones often didn't give a clear indication of what drinks were out of stock, and without an onboard computer were incapable of automatically reporting back to a central server what the current inventory was.


Good defence of the new Coke machines. Did you write the code for them or something?

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 10:04 • by LimaBravo (unregistered)
Well the shade8 colo(u)r is not really a wtf. The site offers welding screens, to protect people from looking into a welding flame and suffering eye damage. Shade 8 might not be a colour but is a term used in the welding-business. Shade 8 is a semi transparant that filters out most of the harmfull light, the number indidcates how much/little is filtered. you could e.g. also have shade5 or shade13. And for a weldign screen ofering site i don't think using a industry standard to describe what your getting as a WTF.

Greets,
LimaBravo
"An overactive googler."

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 10:08 • by G (unregistered)
Where's my file, G?

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 10:10 • by feugiat (unregistered)
[x] Prefer not to comment

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 10:11 • by norbert79 (unregistered)
322395 in reply to 322350
No, you cannot have it. Not yours! ;)
Anyway, this error still appears in 0.47 of Inkscape as well, and only when the file has a very long pathname. Yet you can just remove all the files during an upgrade, though this display bug is still present.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 10:24 • by Matt Westwood (unregistered)
322397 in reply to 322369
anon:
While I'll agree that the broken soda machine is amusing and WTF worthy, the snarky comment about "what was wrong with the old ones" is kind of unnecessary. First off, it implies that the old ones never broke which is obviously untrue, and second it implies that no advantages are gained by the new ones. On the old ones, someone had to manually change small paper labels every time a new product was added, and we've all seen the crappy, handwritten substitutes when the paper label was damaged or unavailable. Also, the old ones often didn't give a clear indication of what drinks were out of stock, and without an onboard computer were incapable of automatically reporting back to a central server what the current inventory was.


The real WTF is soda.

CAPTCHA: Vindico: I came, I saw, I vindicate

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 10:25 • by Matt Westwood (unregistered)
322398 in reply to 322372
GSchizas:
Shade 8 is, of course, Octarin (sort of purple greenish).


+1

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 10:25 • by Erasmus Darwin
322399 in reply to 322376
Mad Benjamin(s):
But you raise some good points about the security aspects of credit vs debit cards.


While most of the main points have been raised (better fraud protection, rewards, grace period, etc.), there's one more advantage of a credit card over debit: Authorization holds can screw over debit card users who don't have a lot of money in their accounts. Buying $5 worth of gas can sometimes result in $100 of the account balance being tied up for a few days until the hold clears. With a credit card, it's only part of your credit line that's temporarily unavailable -- you don't have to worry about your actual money being tied up.

Re: Dying of Thirst

2010-09-17 10:26 • by Ha! (unregistered)
322400 in reply to 322384
Jens:
It's called "Thirst station". Mission accomplished.

Now this should be a featured comment!
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